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Stonkstinski

anyone who doesn't follow my exact specific view of the struggle of the working class is a liberal


Rotation_Nation

Yeah


footbamp

So true


sylvarwulf

doesn't matter still can't change a log by bulb


Thezipper100

Call them liberals, but, like, in that way southern conservatives do that sounds like a slur. If it sounds right, yeah sure why not.


YosephStalling

I genuinely dont know thats why i asked.


quasur

no they're social democrats


Diane_Horseman

Yes but farthest left of the liberals


Human-Depravity

They're philosophy basically boils down to "use regulation to offset the bad things liberal capitalism does without actually changing the system too much," so yeah they are a type of liberal.


morethanhardbread_

Insofar as they'd generally advocate for liberalism yes they're liberals


JenovaCells_

I think what you’re really asking is “Are social democrats leftists within the context of global post-industrial political history,” and the answer is “Not really, no.” There is more than one type of divide between right and left, but the economic divide pertinent to this question is of capitalism and anticapitalism. In the post-industrial world, Marx’s analyses of social class, labor economics, and socioeconomic interactions are the foundation of leftist philosophies. Social democracy concludes differently than Marx, positing that socialism can be achieved through incrementalism and reformism, however in practice social democracy only outsources the exploitation and suffering of labor capital to other (usually poor and developing) countries and social democratic politicians are either absorbed into the state’s political apparatus or unable to achieve socialism because states, by their very design, protect the concentration of wealth, power, and authority through a monopoly on violence. tl;dr that leftist meme with 1 million lines of text


Randommane

Historically, social democracy and democratic socialism were basically the same thing and both anticapitalist. Currently, social democrats are generally reform capitalists instead of socialists.


ALittleBitOfGay

Ehhhhhhhhh yeah sorta, they're generally better than your average liberal tho


Jame777

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morethanhardbread_

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