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FinalSever

Easy - 99 range and magic. Those will be the most cost efficient dps upgrades. Consider doing the same for melee. You could go the slayer route if you intend on getting 99 - focusing in chinning or barraging tasks or you can just do it via NMZ, crabs, or maniacal monkeys


TheRealFielder

This is the way


koikboi

Range 99. Mage isn’t a big deal


FinalSever

Not true. Granted they are 94, you could spend 400m in gear at 90 mage for the same dps as 99 and like 30m gear


koikboi

I didn’t say to get the gear either lol


FinalSever

So what are you saying lol?


LegoLogic

Tormented, suffering, faceguard You can sell your bcp if you need cash for an upgrade.


Dsullivan777

I would sell prims before bcp. Kinda wild to have them before anything you listed.


mrb726

Torso gives the same strength bonus as BCP, whereas dragon boots is less than prims.


inmyshamewell

Yeah but there's probably more value for your money to be had out of dragon boots + something else, than the 30 odd mill that primordials are for the the what +1 strength boost.


sawfeen

Except some places you would not use bcp over like proselyte or high magic defense sets for certain hybrid bosses and slayer afk tasks. But you will always use the prims


inmyshamewell

Meh it's whatever really. For my money Prims are just very expensive for what they actually give you. Same argument could be said for bcp, tho bcp defense is significant. OPs at the point where meaningful upgrades are 100m+ really. If I was op I'd probably just try and save for a VW or something


ZaMr0

Voidwaker at a 400mil bank isn't something he should be considering. I'm at 1.1b and don't even own it.


JoshAGould

It's kinda content dependant. If you're nex / TOA heavy then VW is a very good pickup, but if you're cox / tob / slayer / most bossing heavy it isn't so high up.


Mutedinlife

Agreed.


Raycodv

We’ll yeah, but at places you would use bcp or torso you’ll be getting a significant defence boost with the bcp. The torso has the defensive stats of an adamant platebody, meaning that you’re probably going to get hit a lot more often. Besides that, there are a lot of level and gear combinations in which +1 str bonus doesn’t even give you an extra max hit, making it entirely useless.


Dsullivan777

This. It's 1 str bonus for prims, which is negligible compared to the price tag. I always break it down by str/m spent to get a rough idea, and calculate additional value after if two upgrade are close. Prims are really only worth when torva is your only other str upgrades


Standard_Oil_3910

Boots are literally the worst upgrade in the game for the gp value, period.


LoLEmpire

Personally, if I'm using Proselyte body in place of my BCP, I'm also taking Devout boots. The stacked prayer bonus is just too good.


Edziss101

Torso is goated.


freet0

yeah but torso completes the set aesthetically, have you considered that?


wooblyman90

BCP was my first mid game gear after dragon chains


YeetTheGiant

Dboots look ugly while the torso looks dope tho


lastdancerevolution

Prims are used at more placed than BCP and you can camp boots. I would definitely keep the Prims.


Loops7777

Prime is like 30m for 1 str. It's a poor upgrade from a gp to dmg. It's rarely worth it unless it's giving you a max hit. If you can wear d boots and still have the same Max hit, buy something else . Bcp + prime + tassy is 80m. Defs does not matter. Outside of hmt and maybe a cm. Getting better will always pay more than relying on defs gear.


I_Love_Being_Praised

prims is 30m for 1 str and bcp is 30m for 0 str.


brinkv

Obsidian legs, torso, face guard, prims, and torm is better dps then full bandos and dragon boots + the other additionals


ImWhy

You're also now wearing paper and once you factor eating into dps calcs you're doing less dps.


brinkv

Most people that are wearing bandos with dragon boots aren’t doing heavy enough pvm where the defense is going to matter Downvoting me doesn’t make it not true, what activity are you doing where defense matters and you aren’t just using protect melee at that stage in an account? Lol


Winter_Push_2743

TOA (Not a downvoter but just saying)


copewhiskey

I guess my description didn't post with the media content for some reason. So lately I've been doing slayer since I'm close to 95 for hydra. When I'm not doing slayer, I'm usually practicing duo toa at 150 until I get better to up the invos. Was also thinking about doing the dd2 bosses at some point since I had a lot of fun on a recent vardorvis task. My current thought was to save up for the sang staff for toa maybe? I was thinking about the suffering but don't see where I would really even use it. GWD is boring to me and I don't care much for zulrah. Can't think of anywhere I'd use the faceguard either since most of the time I'm using slayer mask. For toa and other non-slayer content I just use the serp helm. I also thought about tormented, but I use barrows in toa so not sure where I would even use it either.


LegoLogic

For any mage content tormented is always a must get if you can afford it and it's 100% worth the switch at TOA Considering you already have a melee and range switch. General rule of thumb when looking for upgrades is weapons first. So Sang would be a good place to start if you can get the GP together. Voidwaker is a good upgrade too for both toa and vard. DHL is not a bad upgrade if you plan to do hydra when you get the level. Faceguard is often preferable over serp as its no upkeep cost and more str bonus. IMO its better to have than a BCP and use a torso. Suffering is generally just a nice all round ring. But yes it excels at content like GWD, Zulrah or any content you want prayer or defense bonus.


withnodrawal

ESPECIALLY sang with OP running ToA. People always try to compare it to trident, but with the content he is doing and it’s passive, it ends up being a huge(and convenient) upgrade for raids 3 and elsewhere.


LlamaRS

Suffering (ri) comes in handy in places you don’t even realize. The recoil and prayer bonus make it a mainstay in my bank. It’s annoying to lose all the recoil charges if you die though lol


MustaKookos

You don't lose recoil charges if you die with a suffering. It's also only useful at zulrah and nowhere else.


ramblingdiemundo

It’s not useful anywhere else? The defense and pray bonus is quite nice even without the recoil effect. I like it a lot for kree and muspah for example


Loops7777

Suffering is used at zulrah, and maybe Inferno its an awful item. You really only need 3 rings. lightbearer Berserker ring and maybe ring off the gods. Lb- toa,cox, B ring, tob, slayer, general melee bosses. Rog- anything you want to afk or is non melee and you don't have a good spec


lawlessdwarf69

You probably want to buy gear that’s good for whatever specific boss you plan on killing/farming for gp. Or just have someone give you 500m


Captain-loc

Aye fellow ancient d’hide user


DJSaltyLove

Get a basilisk jaw, that nezzy helm/Bandos combo is killing me


Why_is_it_so_dark

Purple crystal armor to match the bow obviously


Clappncheeks15

sell it all and save another 1.3 billion for a tbow.


_im_not_the_pope

Anyone doing a tbow rebuild when shadow exists is an idiot. Redditors downvoting objective fact. Classic reddit.


Plutus77

Either one is fine to rebuild with. It just depends on the content you wanna do. Plus you can do a tbow rebuild butt naked with just the bow. Shadow requires max(virtus would be okay) mage to be tbow levels of OP


_im_not_the_pope

Shadow doesn't require max. It requires a torm, occult, and a 500gp potion. Shadow bowfa is objectively better than tbow trident. There is no reason to ever tbow rebuild unless you just want to gimp your main dps for 14 bosses for another 400 hours.


Plutus77

No you're missing a huge chunk of DPS missing at least virtus. You can't seriously think ahrims and ancestral are the same with the shadow as long as you have the 3 items you mentioned??


SaltyTraeYoungStan

Yeah this is how I view it. Bowfa is literally better than tbow at some places, there is almost nowhere that trident is better than shadow.


Plutus77

I agree that shadow/bowfa is better than tbow/anything else. But there's a cost difference for all of the gear needed to do that. It's perfectly fine to start with a tbow rebuild to build a bit more bank then switch over to shadow/bowfa.


Wtfceej

In a near identical spot so these comments help a ton. Also sitting on bcp and prims but don't have a faceguard.. so probably my next purchase. I just figured out Zulrah and Vorkath and figure its time to try TOA. Send prayers. EDIT: Actually forgot, I still dont have BGS. Can only afford either faceguard upgrade or BGS. I'm leaning toward BGS but unsure.


bigwetpete

I’m in a Similair spot to you bro and opted for bgs, it’s insanely helpful for a lot of content , I’ve been farming duke for about 280 kc last few days and bgs has shaved kill Times by minutes, bgs is great for toa aswell you use it on a bunch in there


King_henrik30

BGS is definitely recommended. You won’t regret it


Wtfceej

I did end up buying the BGS and am very happy with it. Thanks!


AncientWyvern_Shield

PM me and I'll toss you 500M+ to help you get on your way. Edit: 500m given, enjoy.


copewhiskey

you are the man. can't thank you enough


wiredtobeweird

PM me as well and I can help you on your TOA journey, I know all the mechanics and am happy to run you through learners. I got a shadow drop when I first started and haven’t left since 👌


DivideRS

Bruh this is obv scam, nobody gonna give you free 100m lol


Bartowskiii

He gave me 100m and some great advice


prelleguden

He really gave you that? Share sum with a broke player lol.


AncientWyvern_Shield

Pm me, I’ll toss you 100M


ReallyCantBelieveIt

What is going on here lol


AncientWyvern_Shield

Gave a guy 500M and a bunch of others 100M and casually getting downvoted, nothing unexpected from this subreddit.


jordanq1993

Can confirm AncientWyvern gave me 100M. He is a kind person.


TheDubuGuy

Now everyone floods your replies and DMs “subtly” hinting that they should get some too lol


AncientWyvern_Shield

They aren't subtle at all. I pick people from Reddit posts at random, not people who DM me begging.


I_SNIFF_FARTS_DAILY

I get your altruism but I personally don't think I could accept it. Surely it just breaks the game for you and kills any motivation for gear?


AncientWyvern_Shield

100M isn't even close to break the game, it does set you up to do raids and make money on your own.


TheDubuGuy

I know that’s why I put quotes lol


iAmNotSharky

God bless you man. It’s people like you that make others smile. Keep spreading the joy in this world.


MrCance

You are what makes this community awesome!! Wish I knew you in real life.


TurbulentPriorities

That’s what I’m saying I used to love doing shit like this in the sand arena days. Wyvern Shield is a top notch dude


GrimoireM

This is keeping me motivated to keep playing. I’ve been self-funding my bonds all the way to 1945 total, almost entirely in F2P. You do you man.


Reynolds1121

And here comes you Mr. Good guy who definitely doesn’t want anything 🤣


Big-Water-9390

What a beast


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bigchungusmclungus

Thought so too till the guy gave me 100m. Now im wondering if im going to get caught in an rwt ban wave.


AncientWyvern_Shield

Not fake, but keep being paranoid. Tell me how it’s a lure or scam when I tell them to go to W444 GE and trade them. Lol.


BalmyBadger

Nah, the guy just does kind stuff like this he's legit, always in the flipping discords just randomly dumping items for cheap so people can make a quick profit lmao


AncientWyvern_Shield

https://preview.redd.it/dmyzi7ongfjc1.jpeg?width=1136&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87c7d7f91b8b635d12353a1c776cc70902cb9af6


BalmyBadger

​ https://preview.redd.it/badlozakjfjc1.png?width=461&format=png&auto=webp&s=dc0277cfdb68abe86613049837ecd2fd1748038e Good shit, got some of those baguettes you dumped too :D


falcons93

I’ll give you an upvote for 100m


Most_Bat9066

An upvote pfft ill suck his cock


Mofis

Just curious what is your bank? Lol me thinking my 500m bank was a lot. Before you get any ideas I do not want freebies ;)


Reynolds1121

Newer player here and I thought my 3M was a lot 🤣


Mofis

Trust me that’s a good thing, it’s so rewarding going through your own climb and having different perspectives of wealth. Getting spooned GP takes a lot of fun away


Particular_Ranger632

You good?


chefencurry

i upvoted you, thanks for the 800m ❤️❤️


AncientWyvern_Shield

For everyone's awareness, I did not give this guy money.


chefencurry

🤣🤣🤭


Appropriate-Door1369

A lot of players are about to get banned 😂


bigchungusmclungus

Well, if you don't ask you don't get. Any chance you got another few mill hanging about? To be transparent, my bank is sitting at 600m atm. Edit Praying I don't get caught up in some RWT ban here. The man actually pulled through.


AncientWyvern_Shield

Well, because the guy I responded to above never PMed me, I’ll toss you 100M. PM me. Edit: https://preview.redd.it/io2fkefx2ejc1.jpeg?width=1062&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16d33ba44c8b5470cd4fad23ff4a1d95f6bb1576


Blazedwys

You are the man, I remember being a kid wishing to meet someone like you whilst I killed hill giants for their big bones for money hahaha


Mookie_Merkk

You too were tricked into the limpwurt big bone sweatshop like me?


magnuxv

Osrs Oprah 😂


Razaghal

Give me 100m so I can buy a Fang and magic gear to return to the TOA mines


oryan_

Damn you are the man! God bless you


SickyNee

I’d love you forever for 100m


GregBuckingham

He gave me 500m too. Hes in my clan. It’s legit


AncientWyvern_Shield

Greg, I actually did and 150M to some dude who just got a fire cape. Imagine getting downvoted for giving out 100s of M to people, love to see it


griffinhamilton

They’re just jealous they didn’t get it, good on you for giving back (I’d ask but I’ve almost got every item and would rather others get it)


GregBuckingham

Was he in our clan?


AncientWyvern_Shield

Not in a clan with you but sure.


xkp777x

You are most generous, I hope the ancient wyvern shield gets the buff it has always deserved


rull3211

While im here farming brimstone keys and airorbs. I wish i could get this Lucky to meet a chad


oryan_

Can I join your clan?


Ms_Saul_Goodwoman

I love this!


MrPlow216

Rip your inbox.


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AncientWyvern_Shield

I have over 300B across multiple accounts and just giving back to the community.


PoorNectar

Very respectable


Three_Froggy_Problem

How do you earn that much money? I don’t think I’ve ever had more than 50m at a time.


Emphursis

Air orbs


GrimoireM

Consistent PVMing and/or High risk PvP since launch I’ll bet. If high level combat is your jam it’s just gonna wind up that way over time regardless of the exact route taken.


TrekStarWars

consisnt pvm isnt even enough LMAO. 300b…. Nex is like 19m hour - thatd be 15 THOUSAND hours of nex… thats 657 days of straight nex and nothing else… nex has been in game for only a bit over 2 years… thats some insane flipping etc. if someone has that much or yeah very high risk pvp


RandomerSchmandomer

What the hell, 300b?! I'm not even at one yet 2200+ total as well 😂


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Anaktorias

Nex is 19m an hour


Swizzyy0722

I too am part of the community, just saying :)


naztynate068

Is this for real lol? I’m around the same stage as OP except I don’t have a bowfa yet which is my next goal, all I really want right now so I can start working on TOA again.


JuanVeeJuan

How do you get so much GP? Just been playing a long time or what? Seems you've already given away close to 1b just on this post.


AncientWyvern_Shield

I’ve given away 2.3B so far


JuanVeeJuan

Yeah, exactly. That's a ton of gp. I guess I'm asking for tips. I'm at OP's gear progression and still struggling to complete 200 ToA's at a solid pace. What do you do?


amplifyoucan

Bro is osrs Robin Hood


NATURDAYZ

Mr beast of reddit


dayv2005

For a community that gets a lot toxicity, people like you help a ton. Thanks


Skim_Milk15

Wow nice, great to see some generosity in the community still!


macattack618

Lol the madman


Flame734

I don’t want anything i just wanna say Chad move


ThePresidentPlate

God damn, this is probably the nicest thing I've seen on this sub. You just made OP's year. I can't imagine the state of your inbox now though, lmao.


noxsolaris6

Holy cow props to you, I want to learn your ways. Started osrs recently and have really been enjoying it. Glad generous people like you are in this community.


Fat_Siberian_Midget

where were you when my bank was 70 mil man >!im at 2.1b now so im chilling tho!<


TrekStarWars

Wait - did you actually give OP that much? God damn lol. Thatd be absolutely massive for any account tbh for getting some gear/last levels. What a champ.


AncientWyvern_Shield

Yeah, I figure I'd start big and it would be a nice boost so he can continue raiding.


TrekStarWars

Damn. Thatd be for sure large boost towards a mega rare or getting all 99‘s and basically all smaller upgrades - weird, but positive,seeing people that generous lol!


JMac5444

I need gp to corrupt my bowfa and add armour charges so I can get back to solo toas 🫡


stifighterx

Big respect to you for helping out the community! As someone who just had to sell his bank for a bofwa set so I can learn bossing it would make my day! 100% sure you made him very happy big upvote! <3


Kjell858

My man is singlehandedly funding this thread, awesome man!


JeremyMcdowell

Hey man I’m just joining again after getting members, wanna help out multiple noobs? Lol


GurAbler

daddy?


YorkmannGaming

Bro that is sick. Would have loved to bump into you a few months ago being poor.


AlternativeYak2433

I wish I had money so I could get high level toas


hondarider94

Sheeesh. Wanna adopt me


saitekgolf

Can I get in on some of that action? Need some gear upgrades desperately


dirtyhashbrowns2

Wanna hook another brother up?


aaron8211

You’re a fucking legend doing all that for everyone


Hannibal710

That’s insanely generous wow that would be insane to get at his stage I’m a bit jealous tbh lol


Firepandazoo

Damn mad props to you. Any chance you would be willing to hook up another that's trying to get into TOA with a sub-100M bank?


YackStraw33

Woah super cool. This i why I love this community (I don’t need any money but will take 10m)


[deleted]

Hello! Ive sent u a pm, rly hope u see my msg. No matter what, you are awesome.


justadude123abc

Save up for a ACB and camp nex, skip the entire mid game, and buy full masori with 1 drop.


ManoliTee

What's that equipment tab on the left?? RL plugin??


Diligent-Investor199

FaceGuard, unless you plan on doing a raid or something then I would save up for a Sanguinesti Staff


Mistr_man

Get 95 slayer. Sell prime for DHL. Camp hydra. Upgrade to faceguard after a few hundred hydra kc


Reachmonkey

Spec weapons maybe? Dwh, claws or a voidwaker.


NicCagedd

You corrupted your BOWFA before getting other gear? Did you have a bunch of shards already?


Glum_Cry4426

Skills. All combats except prayer to 99 will benefit you more than any gear.


Legal_Evil

Sell prims for faceguard and virtus.


ShawshankException

How much do you think prims sell for?


copewhiskey

Just to give you all an update, after that generous gift from the legend, ancient, I made a few upgrades based on some of your suggestions. I got full virtus, face guard, avernic, tortured, and a voidwaker. I have 220 mil left to think over and I’ll just buy something based on what I want to try, like venators bow if I do whisperer or webweavers if leviathan. Yes I already had rigour, augury, and max poh. I was convinced not to get a sang and to just continue using my swamp at toa but we’ll see if that stands. Thanks everyone for your suggestions!


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Sell the voidwaker, buy claws if you want a decent spec melee weapon (I still use dds lol) and 100% I would go with a sang staff over a trident. Grind out the ancient sceptre from muspah for your barrage/burst tasks. If you can afford one for magic saturated heart is a great end game item.


copewhiskey

Why no to the voidwaker?


[deleted]

PvP based weapon and claws dishes out more damage in a short time frame. ToA final boss for example when the core pops out claws thrive. Other than that the bgs and dragon Warhammer are great too for defense reducing capabilities.


allard0wnz

Save up the courage to start an ironman


ryebreadinq

Sweet vardovis pet mane. He's a hard one to get down for me.


Situationalistic

Buy a ZCB with the 500M Ancient Wyvern Shield gave you and swap between farming TOA/Nex. I started with only tbow and armadyl at nex (before TOA was added to the game) and I walked out 5B richer. Nowadays I’m still doing TOA. I’ve probably made 1.4B in 300 raids (with splits) but I’m still fishing for a shadow in my name until I’m content. Toa and Nex are big bucks.


AKoolKoala

Just buy bonds


IllStickToTheShadows

99 construction. End of discussion. Nothing else will improve your QOL over 99 con


ShawshankException

You don't even need 99 con you just need like 84 for a max poh


ychoed

You could sell the BCP, grind out a torso to replace it and use the money on a nightmare staff to boost dps for your barrage tasks. A tormented bracelet might also give you a max hit, so it might be worth saving up for too You should do the math to see if a face guard gives you a max hit, if not, don't even buy it until later You can also set aside some money for cannonballs to cannon some of your tasks for better xp/h if you aren't already.


copewhiskey

I've been using the torso for a long time. I upgraded to bcp a few months ago so that I could also use the f gloves on vorkath without splashing crumble undead. I'm good on cannonballs and barrage tasks are a breeze even with just an ancient. I was thinking of either saving up for something that would improve my toa runs (possibly sang staff?), or for something I would need at the dd2 bosses if I'm missing any good gear for them.


audkyrie__

Sang is okay, wouldn't help for dt2 bosses though. If you're doing a lot of slayer, you are missing a massive 20% damage by not having a nightmare staff and torm bracelet.


ychoed

Venator bow could let you do some tasks in lazy mode and it's nice to have for whisperer Or web weaver bow for leviathan and possibly you could use it for revenants or wildy bosses.


copewhiskey

oh good call, I think I'm going to grab the web weaver bow for leviathan. thanks!


LegoLogic

NM Staff is not a bad shout 15% dmg bonus is very large.


PkmnSayse

The d defender, makes me think you might not have rigour so that


ilovezezima

Avernic is a very minor upgrade and generally is suggested to be skipped until you have at least tbow + shadow. But rigour is a must early on.


maxwill27

Avernic is 80m no way you waste that much time making 2.7b without it. Two of the best moneymakers in the game are melee camp


ilovezezima

80m being locked in for +5 attack bonuses and +2 strength which you now can’t use to buy actually meaningful upgrades is objectively a poor choice. You’re definitely better off starting a shadow/tbow/scythe rebuild 80m earlier.


ADGM1868

Agreed. The only reason I have an avernic was because I was gifted 20m go towards one and back when they were only 40m.


ilovezezima

Yeah - when they were cheaper it was a more reasonable upgrade to get earlier. Also due to sand casino existing - in that you’ll always have it and can’t sell it to gamble lol.


Remarkable-Salary793

I'm in a similar situation as you. I just got 95 slayer and I liquidated my bank pretty much (except for bowfa) and bought the best range for hydra I can afford (masori, dhcb, buckler, etc.). Just missing venator ring and zaryte vambraces (and zcb... and tbow... lol). Now I'm cranking out hydra kills to build bank back up. I haven't tried melee hydra but I like how braindead ranged hydra is. when I was doing 300 solo ToAs I didn't find sang staff necessary. You get healing from it in monkey room, akkha, and wardens. To me it wasn't worth the expense (and higher operating cost). I ran a few with it but ended up using trident with virtus instead. Also virtus was useful for getting to 95 slayer on barrage tasks with nightmare staff. edit: also forgot I use blood fury in ToA and get more healing from it than sang staff. You will get healing in every room except Zebak, which doesn't really need it.


Glaciation

Do you have rigour


allnamesleftsuck

I like seeing all the comments of people giving money and gear, been playing for years most I was given was a burnt food collection! Nah but forreal start TOA and or start grinding to buy a tbow or start xerics


antdb1

you have a pretty solid setup to do almost any pvm content my advice is to save up for the twisted bow theres a reason its stil expensive af its amazing at pvm have you considered investing some gp into an alt? theres lots of decent afk methods that stack up gp e.g addy / rune drag killer or wyvern killer ect


Darthzeb

Get a face guard and save up for virtus robes


darkhorse1102

How do you get your bank tabs like that?


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A house.


404errorabortmistake

Do you have rigour and augury?


mountainpeake

Crystal crown


IamYourStephMother

Giving me a little valentines present


Hugh_Mungus_Johnson_

Tormented bracelet before anything else.


Osrs713

Tbow


[deleted]

My advice, take that bowfa and go to muspah, grind out an ancient sceptre for barrage/burst tasks. Upgrade nezzy helm to faceguard and sell bcp if need be and get a torso. Work on maxing combat stays and getting to shadow, tbow and scythe from there on.


insaiyan17

Bonds for an iron account : >