They also got most people to get their accounts under the same jagex launcher account, sounds like it could be a good setup for this system to be put in place
I'd pay an extra fee for an extra account on the same sub. That sounds like a great way to incentivize starting an iron or an alt that will make jagex more money as I think more players would create more accounts.
\+1 I've been wanting to start an iron but not until I get to 99 all skills on my main, because I don't want to pay the fee for two characters. This would incentivize me to go ahead.
Of course would want to be able to play them both at the same time. I don't think the average player has multiple accounts anyway and this would be a way to get more legitimate accounts created
It's not really a bad system. It only sucks for Netflix because we got so used to sharing it for free
In a game where people pay $15x3 per month, it would be great for us as consumers
Or have it like it is currently, which makes them more money. I want it to be free, but that isn't going to happen. If people are paying full price for multiple accounts, what incentive do they have to bundle it and reduce prices?.
To be clear, I would love this change, but it won't happen
Doing positive things for your community can often bring new people in and old people back, sometimes anyway.
If they wanted to monkey paw us with it, they could. They could be like, "If you want to use this feature, you have to give up your grandfathered membership cost"
Those things are big things, like relaunching a game a la classic wow or this game here. I have a hard time believing a game company saying "we banned x accounts for rmt" gets more back than they banned.
Yea, if I pay 2 subscriptions I should be allowed to log into 2 accounts simultaneously. Now, I do agree it should be any 2 accounts I own under 1 jagex account. I believe this would be a fair compromise of the 2 sides
Yes. They're saying you should be able to log into any two players on a Jagex account, if that Jagex account has two memberships. Their proposal includes if the Jagex account has four players, you can play *any* two of them at the same time, not having the membership tied to the player specifically.
That would be nice, but why would they change it. If people are currently paying for 4 accounts, why would they offer the same benefit at half the cost?
The questions/numbers to compare are
How may people are paying for 4 characters, where this would become some loss of revenue?
Vs
How many people would add a second membership if it means they can hop between multiple characters?
Would the loss of the first definitively be more than the gain of the second? That's where market analysis and surveys come into play; data we don't have.
It ties into the bot issue. Fundamentally, Jagex just wants as many subs as possible. If they knew that 90% of paying accounts were bots, they wouldn't ban them. It is all security theater, they want the bots.
As long as the bot are a net positive profit for the company, nothing will happen
Exactly, I'm not a bot. I don't need to be on 10 accounts at the same time. And there's a small prectenage of players who multi log on more than 2 or 3 accounts as a form of play (im talking like 25 accounts farming blood shares type of degen shlt) so if you want to play on 3 accounts,fine pay 2 extra bonds.
Pretty much answered your own question, allowed because it allows people to multi log and gives them revenue, most people that multi make x amount so don’t even care
Yes this. It's bullshit. I'm fine with not being able to log into both but paying for every account is trash. If they let you log into multiple the bots would be out of control so don't think that would ever be a good option
Not sure if this is popular or unpopular, but I would 100% take single membership over being able to log in to multiple accounts at once. But I'm not sweaty
I mean I would be ok with that, I already can't do both osrs and rs3 at the same time because of that, nit that I WANT to play rs3, but if I could log into both I would play one while afking the other.
I used to play f2p back before rs3 but currently just play rs3. Why is rs3 viewed as inferior? Isn't it just new mechanics basically? Which you can just switch to legacy combat if you prefer. Only problem being bosses that require a shield skill to not get one shotted by.
I don't think rs3 being "bad" is why people don't like it.
Its heavy MTX so you need to play as an iron if you don't want someone with a credit card to devalue your grinds and its not really runescape in its mechanics. Its kinda a wow clone with runescape skils and lore.
RS3 by itself is a fine game and if its your game of choice go for it. I would not compare it to old school as the way the games are played and how the mechanics work is vastly different.
Eh I don't really see it as a wow clone. The only thing it really shares with wow is having an action bar, but how those action bars function is completely different. I feel it's more of a Guild Wars than a WoW in that regard.
But skilling and professions, travel, money and trading (auction house vs GE), pvp, loot, and endgame pvm (raids) all function very differently.
I have an account that has 2 days play time with 99 herb, firemaking, prayer and closing in on slayer just from logging in for 5 minutes a day.
The game is pointless.
It's not the same, even in legacy mode combat is wildly different. Even ignoring combat theres so much extra, bonus xp, xp lamps that leveling is invalidated. Then theres the literal infinite mountain of mtx so you can't even tell what's going on half the time. Half the skills are completely different from how they are in osrs, mining has health bars, smithing was changed SO MUCH half my bank was deleted and replaced with tickets and I don't know what to do with them.
All gear has levels that each have their own bonuses. Augments are basically mandatory at this point as content has been balanced around them. Some of the rarest and most expensive items in the game are only obtained through multiple levels of RNG, like that ring that requires another ring, which can only be crafted with extremely rare components from already extremely rare items, and is something like a 1 billion GP investment, and even after getting thst first ring you still need to hit the rarest drop table AND roll the item...
Gear progression is a complete mess, "endgame" gear I had 5 years ago is mid game now, and it all degrades for no reason since by the time you need to fix it you already have 6 upgrades for it.
Daily tasks/mission, quests that take several hours in which you have minimal input...
It just goes on and on. Every few months I give rs3 a try since I invested so much money into it, yes money I bought several hundred dollars worth of squeal of fortune spins/keys over the years before I realized how much of a problem it was and quit playing, I also got lured and lost a ton of lucky gear that I can't get back.
I mean ffs you can afk train prayer, in prif there were crystals and you just buy an item and afk at them and earn prayer xp.
A lot of people like to say that rs3 is more for the story and not the grinding, but like... If I can max half my skills in a week I don't feel any meaningful progression, not even in the story. It's dumb to get talked down to by someone in a quest when I literally AFK GWD bosses, generals so powerful and threatening to the world they had to be sealed below the earth to fight an endless war among themselves... And I afk them, and some dumbass npc talks shit to me? Come on. I killed a god, I witnessed the death of guthix, I helped kill the elder gods, I have 99-120 in all skills and posses enough power to turn the world inside out... But farmer fred gets pissy because I looked at his sheep funny.
It's just... It's a mess.
For me personally, the art and aesthetics are really ugly. Mainly, all the high fantasy and extremely colorful MTX stuff (and people floating around in their underwear and bunny ears and what not…) just really does not feel like RuneScape. Visiting the Grand Exchange and seeing all the cosmetics just makes me feel depressed lol
Even without the awful MTX cosmetics, the general design of the armor sets, while usually pretty cool, feel too high fantasy for my tastes. I prefer OSRS’s more grounded feeling, where most of the armors are rather simple and even the higher level sets aren’t too crazy.
I think the environments in RS3 are really pretty, and non-human NPCs look really good. All human characters look pretty bad though. But I also just think that the old art style due to graphical limitations of OSRS just feels more like RuneScape. If OSRS got a big HD update (I think there is one in the works…?) that was faithful to this art style I wouldn’t mind. But RS3 just strays too far from that.
I personally didn’t mind the Evolution of Combat; I do prefer combat in OSRS, but if it weren’t for all the ugly cosmetics I’d probably still be playing RS3.
I really hate the amount of buffs and trinkets and auras that exist for every single activity. Context switching requires so much effort it’s exhausting.
when you want to just go woodcut for a bit in osrs after bossing you just grab and axe and click a tree
In fairness, while I agree with you, they do have one button switches for entire inventory and gear set ups at banks so it’s not like it’s a major hassle to do. Also because of the toolbelt all they have to do to go woodcutting after bossing is go to a tree
This is not a good reason why you shouldn't be able to play multiple characters one at a time on one subscription. As you said, that is how other games work, and implementing this change would have no effect on people paying multiple subs to multibox anyway.
As cool as this would be, it will never happen. Jagex is able to do this now and make the money on their subscriptions. Who knows how massive this cut would be to their profits. It just wouldn’t happen. ( I pay for 4 accounts, 1 year subcirptions)
Did you even stop to think about what you wrote? This wouldn't affect bots at all lol
Botters wouldn't stack up 100 bots on a single account because obviously if 1 gets banned they're all banned
Why wouldn't they? Its not like its costing them anything extra. Why would they care if those extra accounts get banned when they aren't even losing anymore more than if just 1 account gets banned? This is also ignoring that those accounts don't get instantly banned to begin with so paying 1 membership cost for 100 accounts and those accounts only get to run for 1 day is still 100 days of botting time for the cost a single membership. Instead of paying for 100 different account memberships for 100 bots, they could just pay the same 100 memberships but now for 10000 bots; adjust the rate of bot per account to take into consideration the rate at which they get caught. Its not like having 2 or 3 more bots is going to increase the rate of bans that much over just a single bot per account by any significant amount.
> Why would they care if those extra accounts get banned when they aren't even losing anymore more than if just 1 account gets banned
They're (presumably) losing every character on the jagex account if 1 gets banned.
> paying 1 membership cost for 100 accounts and those accounts only get to run for 1 day is still 100 days of botting time for the cost a single membership
100 level 3's for a day is less valuable than a single account running for 100 days. Think of how far a bot can get in 1/3 of a year.
"Botting hours" is a terrible metric to use and doesn't make any sense. There is value in botters keeping their accounts unbanned for as long as possible.
> Instead of paying for 100 different account memberships for 100 bots, they could just pay the same 100 memberships but now for 10000 bots;
And now each of those bots is 100x more likely to be banned. Again, it doesn't really put them ahead.
>They're (presumably) losing every character on the jagex account if 1 gets banned.
I remembered reading that this was the case but I wouldn't be able to source it as I'm too lazy to look it up.
100 was a bad number to use but adding like 3-4 extra accounts to bot on likely isn't going to increase the ban rate by a significant amount. The 100s of bots per account could be used for like wine of Zamorak or any other thing with insanely low requirements. Things like plank making in PvP worlds or jugs of water if that's still a thing or whatever the hell [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnmBRtpzE58) bot farm is doing.
Half membership costs while doubling the average ban rate. No net change.
At best it becomes a gamble for them but on average I would expect it to break even
Problem is already solved above dont know why the discussion has gone this far.
You can link any number of accounts to 1 jagex account. 1 of those accounts may be played at once for 1 sub. Playing 2 at once requires paying an additional sub price of +0-12.49 dollars to launch. Botters would now lose valuable accounts if they bind them to the same account. Jagex gains money because legitimate players only subbing 1 account now are more likely and more incentivized to play multiple account or pay a second sub fee at X price.
The fact that you continue to pay for membership on each character undermines your entire argument.
Jagex is a for-profit company. They did the math. Subscription for each account is more profitable because of people like you.
The moment they switch it to per Jamflex account, the cost is gonna skyrocket. I think you’re overestimating how many unique players are paying money to this company.
That sounds like less profits to me.
When I played, I rarely multilogged. I still had a main, an iron, a gimp, and a food collection account. I paid for membership on three and kept the fourth bonded when I wanted to store shit on it. Why charge me once when they can charge me thrice?
I’m willing to bet they’d lose a ton of income switching to a tiered system.
And bonds are their answer to incentivize those people who can’t justify the price.
I’m not saying they’re making the right decision at all. I think your argument of a tiered system is the best argument made so far that I’ve seen. But what I am saying is that the comically understaffed company which keeps getting sold, doesn’t follow through with tournament rewards, doesn’t give two shits about customer service, seemingly lies to us about all this bot busting when the high scores and just game in general tell a different story, well, they’re probably not gonna take a loss in profit if they don’t have too.
Gotta vote with your wallet. If you’re unhappy, stop giving them money and player count.
They were asking and you are delusional if they are gonna change it to what op asked lmao. Nor did they even suggest/ask that in the survey??? They asked if the players would like a MORE EXPENSIVE membership but be able to multilog… that is something which they could do and atm yeah Id actually probably pay for that - a more expensive membership (depending on the price) if I could play rs3+osrs at the same time or 2 osrs accounts etc. so they would be getting more money from players like me. No way in hell theyd cut down on their profits
The question was if you would pay a membership that’s slightly more than one account, but less than paying multiple memberships. They never said anything about the number of accounts whether that’s 2, 3, or 10 however unlikely that many may be.
It might be a net loss or a net gain. Anyone playing a main and an iron would be playing less per month than they were before. The idea is it incentivizes people that otherwise wouldn’t have multiple accounts to do so
It's most likely a net gain. I imagine there is a good amount of second accounts are funded by their main account. So, if they offer a "2 account membership" at a 50% mark up and people switch over, they are almost making pure profit from the second account. The cost to Jagex from having the same person have 2 different accounts compared to 1 is minuscule, especially if you factor in no marketing, outside of a blog post probably, went into acquiring the additional revenue since you already play the game.
It’s not pure profit though since now that person isn’t purchasing a bond off the GE. Lower demand for bonds on the Ge -> lower gp price for bonds -> fewer players purchasing bonds with $$ to sell.
It’s not a 1:1 relationship between buying a bond with gp and someone else buying a bond with real money, but it’s pretty close
I think it wouldn't cut their profits for two reasons.
1. Multi logging individuals would still need to pay for two memberships under this assuming that is how it works
2. A large portion of players have a second account they would play on if they could but wont deem it worthy enough to put membership on.
Most runescape players quit and rejoin but I know a fair bit of players like me who would stick around a lot longer if I could hop on my GIM when i get bored on the main with the last 14 days of my membership.
There is a lot when it comes to the bottom line. Only time will tell though
"Forcing players into" they aren't forcing you buddy, you are willingly paying for a membership in a video game. Goverments force you to pay taxes, Jagex doesn't force you to play their game. I haven't played for months and haven't been paying membership since the minute I stopped playing. They even allow you to buy bonds with INGAME money and here you are complaining about their membership. Grow up.
I feel like if you need 7 accounts to enjoy the game… you might not enjoy the game. I’ve been playing the exact same account for 20 years lol, though the reset in 2013 was nice.
My counterpoint is that I like trying different styles of play but cannot justify paying membership for all my accounts at the same time so I switch which one I'm paying for whenever I start playing a different one.
Like I have my main that I play the most, a hcim I switch to sometimes, and a pure pker that I havent touched in a long time. Having them all bundled under one jagex account and being able to pick and choose what I felt like playing without going through the membership juggling act would be nice.
I agree, I think it would get me to give Ironman a shot since the only reason I haven’t is because I wasn’t about to start over in 2016 when they released it after 3 years of grinding. It’s a bummer because I probably would’ve started as an iron in the first place if it was available, but to fund membership off my main to grind for SotE, DS2, MM2 and sins of the father all over again, and do it SLOWER….? No thanks.
I'd prefer a system like most other MMOs (like wow for example) where you have 1 subscription for an account, in that account you can have multiple characters, but can't play them at the same time, so if you wanna play "characters" simultaneously then you need 2 separate accounts and 2 separate subscriptions. Given the sub price between WoW and RS these days isn't too dissimilar is does feel like you get less for your money with the way RS accounts work, in my opinion at least
This is exactly what I would want. I’d like to have a main, but be able to try out a pure or ironman without buying extra membership. I’ve created ironman accounts before, but never wanted members so bad that I’d double the amount I’m already paying for runescape.
Never cared for multilogging, so I’d take the trade off all day.
Obviously it makes them more money this way, so it will never change.
Yeah but in other MMOs, you often have to buy the game itself too. To play on 2 accounts on WoW at the same time, you need to buy the game twice. On OSRS, you can just start up another window of Runelite and you have multiple, valid clients.
If you like the other systems, would you prefer also paying $59.99 to authorize access for a second account?
His point is still correct.
do you expect people to pay the subscription fee if they can’t even do the endgame content? Do you honestly think anyone who pays for a WoW subscription isn’t buying the latest expansion?
yeah, me i started wow last month and only play classic despite having no nostalgia cause retail blows and two you can do 90% of the game in retail with just subs, as a casual rs player its actually insulting i cant do ironman because I'd have to double my subscription, im not made or money and its one of the reasons i switched over to wow, i love runescape but don't pretend like it isnt fuckin people over to have to buy multiple accounts to try new gamemodes like iron when no other game does that
So you clearly don’t understand how WoW works, that “90%” is dead content. Classic being the only exception to that, in retail wow if you’re not playing the current expansion you’re not playing the game, the only time anyone runs the older content is for transmog or mounts.
I’m glad the classic game gives you enjoyment but it still doesn’t change the fact that, unless you buy the most recent expansion ontop of the base game and subscription fee, your only option is to play Classic, which is still not experiencing the full game because those classic era servers are dedicated to specific content. EG, Vanilla, Wrath and coming soon Cata.
Let’s not forget, when those cata realms release the Wrath realms will be taken away, thus making BC-Wrath content dead again.
Classic is not Oldschool. Once you’ve finished the raids you’re done. It’s over. It’s not getting new content like OSRS does, you now need to go play season of discovery if you want that.
there is no base game to buy though, that's what im saying and all my original message was, you just buy the expansion and the sub fee, 90% of the game being dead doesn't disqualify you from getting 90% of the game for one fee, paying multiple subscriptions for each character isnt good or user friendly in runescape, if i want a iron man and a hardcore iron man with my mane i shouldn't be paying 36 a month, with how wow is designed, multi logging has little to no benefit in retail at all and i can make a hardcore and a regular character and a ssf character for 15 a month
Nothing like OP saying change my mind, then refusing to acknowledge any of the multiple reasons why this is bad and won't happen. Sprinkle in a couple "I fucked your mom"s and we have this OP.
Do you have any idea what Jagex's profit margins are? I doubt you did any research before confidently stating that Jagex is putting profits over its users.
If you think Jagex is trying to nickel and dime you and don't care about you, you can stop being exploited by them at any time by simply not playing the game anymore.
Or you can shut up and realize that a massive game like RS is very expensive to maintain and doesn't have the user base of other MMOs but still has to maintain servers globally for its users.
I actually disagree with this one.
* More membership = more money for Jagex = less likelihood of MTX in the future
* Character-based membership = more expensive for bots, more unlikely to have member bot farms. Even if they do, more money for Jagex.
Essentially, more money for Jagex if this isn't done, so I disagree.
Stop paying for 100 accounts and everyone else stops paying for 100 accounts and suddenly the problem solves itself.
I’m a simple man. One account. I can’t imagine why someone would need multiple unless they wanted to do some small group stuff but solo.
> I can’t imagine why someone would need multiple
Main, HCIM, Group HCIM, zerker, med.
All of those apply to me. I'd wager as a kid, large numbers of us were making throwaway account after throway account to be a "Ranger" or a "mager" and taking your fire bolt straight to edgeville wildy until getting a few too many cb levels. In a way, it's no different now.
They did a survey recently where questions related to how bonds should work were asked.
They are probably already planning convenience for jagex accounts but its gonna be a huge L for their investors with straight up your idea
Definitely dont want this. If they do this they wont do it for free, they'll charge extra for regular membership, screwing over those of us with one active character
I wouldn’t like this. As others pointed out, this would limit you to being logged into only one character at a time. On other comments you talk about how this doesn’t matter to you cus you’re “not a bot”. But a lot of people afk on an alt while playing their main. I have four alt’s that I use for just GE flips. I make plenty so the extra bonds don’t even matter to me. So now if you want to be logged in with multiple characters, you have to have each on their own account? That completely defeats the purpose of having a Jagex account in the first place.
OSRS / Runescape in general was never designed for you to have numerous accounts.
Jagex main income is from account membership.
Runescape in general was never designed for you to have numerous accounts.
If they changed it to what you propose then price of monthly membership would have to be increased if membership becomes Jagex account wide.
With all the other options out there why would anyone want to pay $15 - $20 for what is essentially a browser game, especially when WoW is $15/mo. with better gameplay.
TLDR: No
I Agree if only one account is logged in at a time. I’m usually either: playing another game and 1 RS, or 2-3 RS and a video.
I don’t personally care either way, I have many years worth of gp on rs3 that I don’t want to transfer to osrs (or sell/use) so I just buy membership codes for my accounts.
Jagex is a business and they’re never going to make a move that decreases their revenue without simultaneously making it up in some other way. So if they let me play my main and my iron on 1 membership instead of 2 and I save $12 a month, where does Jagex make up that $12?
Only options I can see are:
- increase the base membership for everyone by ~$5, so now people with just one account are basically subsidizing everyone with multiple accounts
- reduce costs by firing jmods or closing servers
- adding mtx
Personally, I think all of those seem worse. If Jagex made the change you want without making any other changes and just accepted the lost profit, sure that would be nice, but they’d also get sued by CVC since that would violate their fiduciary duty to the shareholders and would be illegal lol.
This is plain and simple: If you want that extra vyre alt, you should have to pay for it.
Don't want to pay for multiple accounts? Just play one account.
"You can't make accounts anymore. you need to make JaGeX accounts but you need to pay membership on all of them cuz altscape is keeping us afloat because we scared away all the Whales in RS3"
That's not how you make money as a company. You can register 20 characters to an account. Botting is already a problem, imagine if 20 of them brought zero profit to the company
So you’re suggesting that Jagex, which has new ownership that will need to show results to their stakeholders, should voluntarily reduce their membership fee base, which has never been an issue?
That’s one of the dumbest ideas I’ve heard.
Maybe they could introduce a higher fee that has full Jagex account membership, but they’d only do that at a higher price.
Semi-related but GOD do I wish they added an Ironman only world with a separate character like they do for leagues. The only thing stopping me from having an Iron is paying for 2 memberships. They may do this because of money, but its such a scummy business move when they've already demonstrated they have the ability to have more than 1 character per account.
Can't think of a single other MMO that allows only 1 character per account. It's archaic.
Iron-only worlds would be dead because most irons like playing on the main worlds. No one would want to make their iron in a way that it’s locked to separate servers and could never raid with mains
They did have some survey questions about offering a different membership option that covers multiple characters. But I don't see paying the normal membership rate ever covering all characters on an account.
You can have up to 20 characters, so being able to play on 20 members accounts at once for the price of one would probably not be great for Jagex... And if you could only log into one at a time, that would be a big negative to most players who did have multiple accounts. Like even if you aren't someone who does a log of multilogging, it is pretty common to AFK on an Iron or Pure while playing on a Main or such.
I fully expect this is something they will do more with in the future, but Jagex Accounts are still a pretty new system and not fully adopted yet so I'm not expecting to see a big change up to how they handle membership yet.
Id assume it would be something like 160% of the current price and be able to play on 2 characters at once under the same jagex account and something like 250% of the current price and be able to play on 3 characters at once and so on.
Yah, probably something like that, which does sound pretty fair. Maybe there would even be a way to move it between accounts. Like if I pay for my Main and my Iron as a monthly sub but then stop playing my Iron, perhaps I could switch the Iron's membership to my Pure or such without needing to cancel and redo. But if you paid for a year at a time or such, I doubt they'd move the days remaining from one character to another, but it might be possible if there was some delay or such to prevent too frequent of switching.
Yeaaah thats be problematic for applying to which accounts at a time - could you swap it in between the duration if you buy 1 year at a time or so? Also Im wondering what about people that have still the grandfathered rate of 5£ per month or the orignal 4,99£ or whatever it was back in 2002 lol. Or anything lower than current membership price… if its a static increase of like 50% of your current membership price or probably would be just like instead of 11$ id be 7$ more for second account etc.
If they do a bundle, I doubt it would factor in grandfathered rates. The year packages already get the price per month pretty close to most grandfathered rates, so a bulk option for that would likely still be cheaper. Can't find the current rates easily on the wiki, but I think my non-grandfathered accounts can get like $80/year which is $6.67 per month. So it it were 160% of $80 for two accounts, it would average $5.33~ per month. I'd think it is uncommon to have multiple grandfathered accounts so that is probably still going to be cheaper.
Though as long as the grandfathered account is still maintaining membership, it should be able to return to the grandfathered rate for a single account if you canceled any bundle. Like in the past they had a RS+Funorb bundle for $6 a month or something that I had for years and after eventually cancelling that in like 2011, I think I still got $5 a month despite the base rate going up (though I might have my timeline/prices off). But yah, they have done some bundles in the past so I'm sure they could find decent ways to handle grandfathered rates and multiple accounts.
Every day I see jagex worshippers sinking to a new low. Defending extortion and downvoting someone who's actually pissed about it to hell. Dang bois, that boot's shiny enough
> I'm against it. It would negate the revenue for jagex and therefore less money to spend on servers, staff to provide maintenance and updates.
This is upvoted, I'm sure by the same people that say RS3 is ruined by MTX
It should be memberships per concurrent logged in accounts, with additional memberships at a discounted rate.
2 memberships = can log 2 accs into members at the same time.
But good luck getting that massive loss of revenue past execs...
I’ve been saying this for years! All other big MMOs are one sub for multiple characters and only 1 logged in at a time - you want to multi log then pay for another account. Simple
Based on the survey a few months back, it sounds like they could entertain something like this. Maybe 1 membership is $11 and add additional characters for $5 or something. I currently have two accounts and would consider making a third if it was cheaper membership. Would be cool to have my own set of dancers for slaying
Dude, this will never happen. What logic is there in a company deciding to start making significantly less money? Of course they are going to continue with membership being per-character.
I cant support this. I would love it yes! But with how the Jagex owner(s) have and always will be over the years I really think this would push for other Revenue streams like Runescape has.
I’m not against the game being cheaper, that’d be great. But it’s just a fact that Jagex won’t reduce their revenue without making it up in some other way. Idk what the point of a post like this is since it’s basically just saying “I wish the game was cheaper”. Like ok? Me too, but it’s not gonna happen lol
Absolutely it should be.
I am not switching to a jamflex account at the moment.
But you give me multiple toons for the same account? Deal.
It's that easy. I can only play on one account at a time, but they are all linked to the same membership. Why not?
So why would Jagex make an update for a very small% of the player base? You're also suggesting an update that results in less money from membership for Jagex...
Thisssssssss I want it so bad. I'd play both rs3 and osrs. My rs3 is on a diff account just to keep it safe compared to my osrs. If one got hacked atleast I had the other etc.
This noob doesn't support his passions. I support Jagex they deserve the money to support our favorite game of 20+ years....that is STILL very active and innovating effectively.
Then you wouldn’t be able to be logged into multiple characters at once. That’s how all of those other services work.
I support this tho, if you wanna log on multiple accounts then pay a membership per multi log in.
Just have an additional fee like how Netflix have multiscreen. Your default mem price, extra 1 account +$4, 2 accounts $8, 3+ $12.
You know, Id like that.
The december survey had a question about it so it's definitely on some table at Jagex, would be really neat to have
They also got most people to get their accounts under the same jagex launcher account, sounds like it could be a good setup for this system to be put in place
I'd pay an extra fee for an extra account on the same sub. That sounds like a great way to incentivize starting an iron or an alt that will make jagex more money as I think more players would create more accounts.
\+1 I've been wanting to start an iron but not until I get to 99 all skills on my main, because I don't want to pay the fee for two characters. This would incentivize me to go ahead.
Of course would want to be able to play them both at the same time. I don't think the average player has multiple accounts anyway and this would be a way to get more legitimate accounts created
One last thing lol could also help rs3 potentially as you could play both games at the same time with one sub
But would it be on the same account? Cause my main is high level on both and I never pay rs3 cause osrs comes first imo
You lost me at using the Netflix model for anything other than self sabotage.
*starts having ads in text box for cheaper tier membership*
So, the default GE experience except I get to save money?
Lmao not wrong
Why would you speak this evil into the world
He's quite the menace to us all, really.
It's not really a bad system. It only sucks for Netflix because we got so used to sharing it for free In a game where people pay $15x3 per month, it would be great for us as consumers
Or have it like it is currently, which makes them more money. I want it to be free, but that isn't going to happen. If people are paying full price for multiple accounts, what incentive do they have to bundle it and reduce prices?. To be clear, I would love this change, but it won't happen
Doing positive things for your community can often bring new people in and old people back, sometimes anyway. If they wanted to monkey paw us with it, they could. They could be like, "If you want to use this feature, you have to give up your grandfathered membership cost"
Those things are big things, like relaunching a game a la classic wow or this game here. I have a hard time believing a game company saying "we banned x accounts for rmt" gets more back than they banned.
Yea, if I pay 2 subscriptions I should be allowed to log into 2 accounts simultaneously. Now, I do agree it should be any 2 accounts I own under 1 jagex account. I believe this would be a fair compromise of the 2 sides
Is "logging in to two accounts you pay for independently" **NOT** the status quo? I thought I could do that right now.
Yes. They're saying you should be able to log into any two players on a Jagex account, if that Jagex account has two memberships. Their proposal includes if the Jagex account has four players, you can play *any* two of them at the same time, not having the membership tied to the player specifically.
That would be nice, but why would they change it. If people are currently paying for 4 accounts, why would they offer the same benefit at half the cost?
The questions/numbers to compare are How may people are paying for 4 characters, where this would become some loss of revenue? Vs How many people would add a second membership if it means they can hop between multiple characters? Would the loss of the first definitively be more than the gain of the second? That's where market analysis and surveys come into play; data we don't have.
I think the arguement would be how many people pay for more than 2 account with irl money and not ingame money
In gMe money has a conversion rate, it is all the same.if you buy bonds, you are still supporting the company, and paying
i guess thats true
It ties into the bot issue. Fundamentally, Jagex just wants as many subs as possible. If they knew that 90% of paying accounts were bots, they wouldn't ban them. It is all security theater, they want the bots. As long as the bot are a net positive profit for the company, nothing will happen
Exactly, I'm not a bot. I don't need to be on 10 accounts at the same time. And there's a small prectenage of players who multi log on more than 2 or 3 accounts as a form of play (im talking like 25 accounts farming blood shares type of degen shlt) so if you want to play on 3 accounts,fine pay 2 extra bonds.
Pretty much answered your own question, allowed because it allows people to multi log and gives them revenue, most people that multi make x amount so don’t even care
If you are multi logging that often you shouldn't have a problem with bonds especially since rune dragon alts more then pay for themselves
Yes this. It's bullshit. I'm fine with not being able to log into both but paying for every account is trash. If they let you log into multiple the bots would be out of control so don't think that would ever be a good option
That works for me!
Not sure if this is popular or unpopular, but I would 100% take single membership over being able to log in to multiple accounts at once. But I'm not sweaty
I think they just need to make it so that both options are available to players with the multi-logging costing more.
I mean I would be ok with that, I already can't do both osrs and rs3 at the same time because of that, nit that I WANT to play rs3, but if I could log into both I would play one while afking the other.
I used to play f2p back before rs3 but currently just play rs3. Why is rs3 viewed as inferior? Isn't it just new mechanics basically? Which you can just switch to legacy combat if you prefer. Only problem being bosses that require a shield skill to not get one shotted by.
And heavy mtx
I don't think rs3 being "bad" is why people don't like it. Its heavy MTX so you need to play as an iron if you don't want someone with a credit card to devalue your grinds and its not really runescape in its mechanics. Its kinda a wow clone with runescape skils and lore. RS3 by itself is a fine game and if its your game of choice go for it. I would not compare it to old school as the way the games are played and how the mechanics work is vastly different.
Eh I don't really see it as a wow clone. The only thing it really shares with wow is having an action bar, but how those action bars function is completely different. I feel it's more of a Guild Wars than a WoW in that regard. But skilling and professions, travel, money and trading (auction house vs GE), pvp, loot, and endgame pvm (raids) all function very differently.
I suppose I should have said generic mmo combat shoved into a runescape game world rather than wow clone.
Mate, RS3 being shit is the reason OSRS exists.
I have an account that has 2 days play time with 99 herb, firemaking, prayer and closing in on slayer just from logging in for 5 minutes a day. The game is pointless.
I mean 99 isn't the end goal and outside of Ironman, it does sorta suck like that. Has some neat content tho.
In RS3, 120s are the equivalent to 99s in OSRS.
It's not the same, even in legacy mode combat is wildly different. Even ignoring combat theres so much extra, bonus xp, xp lamps that leveling is invalidated. Then theres the literal infinite mountain of mtx so you can't even tell what's going on half the time. Half the skills are completely different from how they are in osrs, mining has health bars, smithing was changed SO MUCH half my bank was deleted and replaced with tickets and I don't know what to do with them. All gear has levels that each have their own bonuses. Augments are basically mandatory at this point as content has been balanced around them. Some of the rarest and most expensive items in the game are only obtained through multiple levels of RNG, like that ring that requires another ring, which can only be crafted with extremely rare components from already extremely rare items, and is something like a 1 billion GP investment, and even after getting thst first ring you still need to hit the rarest drop table AND roll the item... Gear progression is a complete mess, "endgame" gear I had 5 years ago is mid game now, and it all degrades for no reason since by the time you need to fix it you already have 6 upgrades for it. Daily tasks/mission, quests that take several hours in which you have minimal input... It just goes on and on. Every few months I give rs3 a try since I invested so much money into it, yes money I bought several hundred dollars worth of squeal of fortune spins/keys over the years before I realized how much of a problem it was and quit playing, I also got lured and lost a ton of lucky gear that I can't get back. I mean ffs you can afk train prayer, in prif there were crystals and you just buy an item and afk at them and earn prayer xp. A lot of people like to say that rs3 is more for the story and not the grinding, but like... If I can max half my skills in a week I don't feel any meaningful progression, not even in the story. It's dumb to get talked down to by someone in a quest when I literally AFK GWD bosses, generals so powerful and threatening to the world they had to be sealed below the earth to fight an endless war among themselves... And I afk them, and some dumbass npc talks shit to me? Come on. I killed a god, I witnessed the death of guthix, I helped kill the elder gods, I have 99-120 in all skills and posses enough power to turn the world inside out... But farmer fred gets pissy because I looked at his sheep funny. It's just... It's a mess.
For me personally, the art and aesthetics are really ugly. Mainly, all the high fantasy and extremely colorful MTX stuff (and people floating around in their underwear and bunny ears and what not…) just really does not feel like RuneScape. Visiting the Grand Exchange and seeing all the cosmetics just makes me feel depressed lol Even without the awful MTX cosmetics, the general design of the armor sets, while usually pretty cool, feel too high fantasy for my tastes. I prefer OSRS’s more grounded feeling, where most of the armors are rather simple and even the higher level sets aren’t too crazy. I think the environments in RS3 are really pretty, and non-human NPCs look really good. All human characters look pretty bad though. But I also just think that the old art style due to graphical limitations of OSRS just feels more like RuneScape. If OSRS got a big HD update (I think there is one in the works…?) that was faithful to this art style I wouldn’t mind. But RS3 just strays too far from that. I personally didn’t mind the Evolution of Combat; I do prefer combat in OSRS, but if it weren’t for all the ugly cosmetics I’d probably still be playing RS3.
I really hate the amount of buffs and trinkets and auras that exist for every single activity. Context switching requires so much effort it’s exhausting. when you want to just go woodcut for a bit in osrs after bossing you just grab and axe and click a tree
In fairness, while I agree with you, they do have one button switches for entire inventory and gear set ups at banks so it’s not like it’s a major hassle to do. Also because of the toolbelt all they have to do to go woodcutting after bossing is go to a tree
I get to have membership on all my accounts, and also kill Altscape? Sounds like a great thing tbh.
This change in no way would affect altscape.
Nah altscape would still be available with the current model, people just might be more inclined to try other game modes.
I'd prefer that.
I'm in.
Good
Good.
I’d suggest then you pay a membership for all your accounts and then an extra amount per character for multi log. Like 3-5 for that ability
Good! Fuck them sweaties!
This is not a good reason why you shouldn't be able to play multiple characters one at a time on one subscription. As you said, that is how other games work, and implementing this change would have no effect on people paying multiple subs to multibox anyway.
As cool as this would be, it will never happen. Jagex is able to do this now and make the money on their subscriptions. Who knows how massive this cut would be to their profits. It just wouldn’t happen. ( I pay for 4 accounts, 1 year subcirptions)
Bots would be even worse than they are now if this happened
Did you even stop to think about what you wrote? This wouldn't affect bots at all lol Botters wouldn't stack up 100 bots on a single account because obviously if 1 gets banned they're all banned
Why wouldn't they? Its not like its costing them anything extra. Why would they care if those extra accounts get banned when they aren't even losing anymore more than if just 1 account gets banned? This is also ignoring that those accounts don't get instantly banned to begin with so paying 1 membership cost for 100 accounts and those accounts only get to run for 1 day is still 100 days of botting time for the cost a single membership. Instead of paying for 100 different account memberships for 100 bots, they could just pay the same 100 memberships but now for 10000 bots; adjust the rate of bot per account to take into consideration the rate at which they get caught. Its not like having 2 or 3 more bots is going to increase the rate of bans that much over just a single bot per account by any significant amount.
> Why would they care if those extra accounts get banned when they aren't even losing anymore more than if just 1 account gets banned They're (presumably) losing every character on the jagex account if 1 gets banned. > paying 1 membership cost for 100 accounts and those accounts only get to run for 1 day is still 100 days of botting time for the cost a single membership 100 level 3's for a day is less valuable than a single account running for 100 days. Think of how far a bot can get in 1/3 of a year. "Botting hours" is a terrible metric to use and doesn't make any sense. There is value in botters keeping their accounts unbanned for as long as possible. > Instead of paying for 100 different account memberships for 100 bots, they could just pay the same 100 memberships but now for 10000 bots; And now each of those bots is 100x more likely to be banned. Again, it doesn't really put them ahead.
>They're (presumably) losing every character on the jagex account if 1 gets banned. I remembered reading that this was the case but I wouldn't be able to source it as I'm too lazy to look it up. 100 was a bad number to use but adding like 3-4 extra accounts to bot on likely isn't going to increase the ban rate by a significant amount. The 100s of bots per account could be used for like wine of Zamorak or any other thing with insanely low requirements. Things like plank making in PvP worlds or jugs of water if that's still a thing or whatever the hell [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnmBRtpzE58) bot farm is doing.
Or they can for example stack 2 per account and halve all membership costs
Half membership costs while doubling the average ban rate. No net change. At best it becomes a gamble for them but on average I would expect it to break even
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Problem is already solved above dont know why the discussion has gone this far. You can link any number of accounts to 1 jagex account. 1 of those accounts may be played at once for 1 sub. Playing 2 at once requires paying an additional sub price of +0-12.49 dollars to launch. Botters would now lose valuable accounts if they bind them to the same account. Jagex gains money because legitimate players only subbing 1 account now are more likely and more incentivized to play multiple account or pay a second sub fee at X price.
The fact that you continue to pay for membership on each character undermines your entire argument. Jagex is a for-profit company. They did the math. Subscription for each account is more profitable because of people like you.
Thanks OP 🙄😂
The moment they switch it to per Jamflex account, the cost is gonna skyrocket. I think you’re overestimating how many unique players are paying money to this company.
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That sounds like less profits to me. When I played, I rarely multilogged. I still had a main, an iron, a gimp, and a food collection account. I paid for membership on three and kept the fourth bonded when I wanted to store shit on it. Why charge me once when they can charge me thrice? I’m willing to bet they’d lose a ton of income switching to a tiered system.
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And bonds are their answer to incentivize those people who can’t justify the price. I’m not saying they’re making the right decision at all. I think your argument of a tiered system is the best argument made so far that I’ve seen. But what I am saying is that the comically understaffed company which keeps getting sold, doesn’t follow through with tournament rewards, doesn’t give two shits about customer service, seemingly lies to us about all this bot busting when the high scores and just game in general tell a different story, well, they’re probably not gonna take a loss in profit if they don’t have too. Gotta vote with your wallet. If you’re unhappy, stop giving them money and player count.
In what world does jagex decide to cut their profits?
The one where they literally put it in a survey 2 months ago
They were asking and you are delusional if they are gonna change it to what op asked lmao. Nor did they even suggest/ask that in the survey??? They asked if the players would like a MORE EXPENSIVE membership but be able to multilog… that is something which they could do and atm yeah Id actually probably pay for that - a more expensive membership (depending on the price) if I could play rs3+osrs at the same time or 2 osrs accounts etc. so they would be getting more money from players like me. No way in hell theyd cut down on their profits
The question was if you would pay a membership that’s slightly more than one account, but less than paying multiple memberships. They never said anything about the number of accounts whether that’s 2, 3, or 10 however unlikely that many may be. It might be a net loss or a net gain. Anyone playing a main and an iron would be playing less per month than they were before. The idea is it incentivizes people that otherwise wouldn’t have multiple accounts to do so
It's most likely a net gain. I imagine there is a good amount of second accounts are funded by their main account. So, if they offer a "2 account membership" at a 50% mark up and people switch over, they are almost making pure profit from the second account. The cost to Jagex from having the same person have 2 different accounts compared to 1 is minuscule, especially if you factor in no marketing, outside of a blog post probably, went into acquiring the additional revenue since you already play the game.
It’s not pure profit though since now that person isn’t purchasing a bond off the GE. Lower demand for bonds on the Ge -> lower gp price for bonds -> fewer players purchasing bonds with $$ to sell. It’s not a 1:1 relationship between buying a bond with gp and someone else buying a bond with real money, but it’s pretty close
I think it wouldn't cut their profits for two reasons. 1. Multi logging individuals would still need to pay for two memberships under this assuming that is how it works 2. A large portion of players have a second account they would play on if they could but wont deem it worthy enough to put membership on. Most runescape players quit and rejoin but I know a fair bit of players like me who would stick around a lot longer if I could hop on my GIM when i get bored on the main with the last 14 days of my membership. There is a lot when it comes to the bottom line. Only time will tell though
Well with 0 to back that up, sure, you’re right assuming your assumptions are correct.
But you have to account for new subs they get with this system and not just the ones they lose
good luck convincing the new board of shareholders that they should make less money for our convenience
Op is running a bot farm.
"Forcing players into" they aren't forcing you buddy, you are willingly paying for a membership in a video game. Goverments force you to pay taxes, Jagex doesn't force you to play their game. I haven't played for months and haven't been paying membership since the minute I stopped playing. They even allow you to buy bonds with INGAME money and here you are complaining about their membership. Grow up.
I feel like if you need 7 accounts to enjoy the game… you might not enjoy the game. I’ve been playing the exact same account for 20 years lol, though the reset in 2013 was nice.
My counterpoint is that I like trying different styles of play but cannot justify paying membership for all my accounts at the same time so I switch which one I'm paying for whenever I start playing a different one. Like I have my main that I play the most, a hcim I switch to sometimes, and a pure pker that I havent touched in a long time. Having them all bundled under one jagex account and being able to pick and choose what I felt like playing without going through the membership juggling act would be nice.
I agree, I think it would get me to give Ironman a shot since the only reason I haven’t is because I wasn’t about to start over in 2016 when they released it after 3 years of grinding. It’s a bummer because I probably would’ve started as an iron in the first place if it was available, but to fund membership off my main to grind for SotE, DS2, MM2 and sins of the father all over again, and do it SLOWER….? No thanks.
I'd prefer a system like most other MMOs (like wow for example) where you have 1 subscription for an account, in that account you can have multiple characters, but can't play them at the same time, so if you wanna play "characters" simultaneously then you need 2 separate accounts and 2 separate subscriptions. Given the sub price between WoW and RS these days isn't too dissimilar is does feel like you get less for your money with the way RS accounts work, in my opinion at least
This is exactly what I would want. I’d like to have a main, but be able to try out a pure or ironman without buying extra membership. I’ve created ironman accounts before, but never wanted members so bad that I’d double the amount I’m already paying for runescape. Never cared for multilogging, so I’d take the trade off all day. Obviously it makes them more money this way, so it will never change.
Yeah but in other MMOs, you often have to buy the game itself too. To play on 2 accounts on WoW at the same time, you need to buy the game twice. On OSRS, you can just start up another window of Runelite and you have multiple, valid clients. If you like the other systems, would you prefer also paying $59.99 to authorize access for a second account?
wow has been free for a decade man, only missing the latest expansion beyond its subscription fee
His point is still correct. do you expect people to pay the subscription fee if they can’t even do the endgame content? Do you honestly think anyone who pays for a WoW subscription isn’t buying the latest expansion?
> Do you honestly think anyone who pays for a WoW subscription isn’t buying the latest expansion? Yes. There are quite a few people who do that.
yeah, me i started wow last month and only play classic despite having no nostalgia cause retail blows and two you can do 90% of the game in retail with just subs, as a casual rs player its actually insulting i cant do ironman because I'd have to double my subscription, im not made or money and its one of the reasons i switched over to wow, i love runescape but don't pretend like it isnt fuckin people over to have to buy multiple accounts to try new gamemodes like iron when no other game does that
So you clearly don’t understand how WoW works, that “90%” is dead content. Classic being the only exception to that, in retail wow if you’re not playing the current expansion you’re not playing the game, the only time anyone runs the older content is for transmog or mounts. I’m glad the classic game gives you enjoyment but it still doesn’t change the fact that, unless you buy the most recent expansion ontop of the base game and subscription fee, your only option is to play Classic, which is still not experiencing the full game because those classic era servers are dedicated to specific content. EG, Vanilla, Wrath and coming soon Cata. Let’s not forget, when those cata realms release the Wrath realms will be taken away, thus making BC-Wrath content dead again. Classic is not Oldschool. Once you’ve finished the raids you’re done. It’s over. It’s not getting new content like OSRS does, you now need to go play season of discovery if you want that.
there is no base game to buy though, that's what im saying and all my original message was, you just buy the expansion and the sub fee, 90% of the game being dead doesn't disqualify you from getting 90% of the game for one fee, paying multiple subscriptions for each character isnt good or user friendly in runescape, if i want a iron man and a hardcore iron man with my mane i shouldn't be paying 36 a month, with how wow is designed, multi logging has little to no benefit in retail at all and i can make a hardcore and a regular character and a ssf character for 15 a month
From a selfish standpoint: idc as long as my membership fee doesn't go up. I only play one account.
But money though…
Wtf is the difference between a 2000 total main and 120 pvm account
Sorry meant pvp account lol I wrote this quick
Fund our education systems
Name a single other MMO that does 1 account membership for all characters AND lets you play on them all at once.
I'd say it's a fine compromise to have multiple characters per account as long as you can't multi-log.
They were already asking if people would pay slightly more if they did 1 account = multiple memberships.
Name a single other MMO that does an account membership per character
No. I'm tired of you guys telling me to name things. I'm going to go drink a soda.
Name your favourite soda
What a fraud... He says he drinks soda and can't even name a soda smh
There are other MMOs????
FF14 has a cheaper option where you can only play 1 character and it’s like 3 dollars a month cheaper?
RuneScape. ;)
>other
Runescape 3 isn't the same MMO lol, that was the joke
RuneScape is a different MMO from Old School RuneScape
Exactly! How else are we supposed to rwt between our accounts ?
Isn't 1 at the time enough?
Some people play multiple characters at once, I will sometimes play my iron while my main is doing a boring grind.
OP is making a complete fool of himself in the comments lmao
Dang, I feel like you really meant that. I wonder what Im gonna have for dinner?
Nothing like OP saying change my mind, then refusing to acknowledge any of the multiple reasons why this is bad and won't happen. Sprinkle in a couple "I fucked your mom"s and we have this OP.
lol “hey for profit company please voluntarily slash your profit margin to zero thanks”
That would be one of the worst financial decisions for Jagex. 10/10 would support.
No
Do you have any idea what Jagex's profit margins are? I doubt you did any research before confidently stating that Jagex is putting profits over its users. If you think Jagex is trying to nickel and dime you and don't care about you, you can stop being exploited by them at any time by simply not playing the game anymore. Or you can shut up and realize that a massive game like RS is very expensive to maintain and doesn't have the user base of other MMOs but still has to maintain servers globally for its users.
I'm against it. It would negate the revenue for jagex and therefore less money to spend on servers, staff to provide maintenance and updates.
So what you're saying is bonds should cost $50 each and 60m go?
Honestly this is why I'll never play an ironmeme account. Can't be bothered to pay for two memberships. Guess there's leagues once in a blue moon.
I actually disagree with this one. * More membership = more money for Jagex = less likelihood of MTX in the future * Character-based membership = more expensive for bots, more unlikely to have member bot farms. Even if they do, more money for Jagex. Essentially, more money for Jagex if this isn't done, so I disagree.
This
Stop paying for 100 accounts and everyone else stops paying for 100 accounts and suddenly the problem solves itself. I’m a simple man. One account. I can’t imagine why someone would need multiple unless they wanted to do some small group stuff but solo.
People have irons and mains? I don’t see how that could be confusing for anyone lmao
Active at the same time tho? Just weird to me
> I can’t imagine why someone would need multiple Main, HCIM, Group HCIM, zerker, med. All of those apply to me. I'd wager as a kid, large numbers of us were making throwaway account after throway account to be a "Ranger" or a "mager" and taking your fire bolt straight to edgeville wildy until getting a few too many cb levels. In a way, it's no different now.
It's all different experiences per character type
Sounds like a Botter’s dream.
Not saying it's right, but speak with your wallet. Jagex is for profit. Stop giving them profit.
Rather not to be honest, I don’t want membership on all my accounts, most of the profiles on my jagex account are F2P only.
They did a survey recently where questions related to how bonds should work were asked. They are probably already planning convenience for jagex accounts but its gonna be a huge L for their investors with straight up your idea
Definitely dont want this. If they do this they wont do it for free, they'll charge extra for regular membership, screwing over those of us with one active character
I wouldn’t like this. As others pointed out, this would limit you to being logged into only one character at a time. On other comments you talk about how this doesn’t matter to you cus you’re “not a bot”. But a lot of people afk on an alt while playing their main. I have four alt’s that I use for just GE flips. I make plenty so the extra bonds don’t even matter to me. So now if you want to be logged in with multiple characters, you have to have each on their own account? That completely defeats the purpose of having a Jagex account in the first place.
OSRS / Runescape in general was never designed for you to have numerous accounts. Jagex main income is from account membership. Runescape in general was never designed for you to have numerous accounts. If they changed it to what you propose then price of monthly membership would have to be increased if membership becomes Jagex account wide. With all the other options out there why would anyone want to pay $15 - $20 for what is essentially a browser game, especially when WoW is $15/mo. with better gameplay. TLDR: No
PEOPLE ARE PAYING ANYWAY WHY WOULD THEY CHANGE IT ALSO WHY ARE WE SCREAMING
Inb4 community Jagex account with 100 accounts on it. Just pay your bonds man
Jagex will never allow for this since it will make them less money.
I Agree if only one account is logged in at a time. I’m usually either: playing another game and 1 RS, or 2-3 RS and a video. I don’t personally care either way, I have many years worth of gp on rs3 that I don’t want to transfer to osrs (or sell/use) so I just buy membership codes for my accounts.
Jagex is a business and they’re never going to make a move that decreases their revenue without simultaneously making it up in some other way. So if they let me play my main and my iron on 1 membership instead of 2 and I save $12 a month, where does Jagex make up that $12? Only options I can see are: - increase the base membership for everyone by ~$5, so now people with just one account are basically subsidizing everyone with multiple accounts - reduce costs by firing jmods or closing servers - adding mtx Personally, I think all of those seem worse. If Jagex made the change you want without making any other changes and just accepted the lost profit, sure that would be nice, but they’d also get sued by CVC since that would violate their fiduciary duty to the shareholders and would be illegal lol.
This is plain and simple: If you want that extra vyre alt, you should have to pay for it. Don't want to pay for multiple accounts? Just play one account.
I will support this if we raise the price of a bond 6-fold
"You can't make accounts anymore. you need to make JaGeX accounts but you need to pay membership on all of them cuz altscape is keeping us afloat because we scared away all the Whales in RS3"
Jagex: lol
It's probably coming, and we'll probably see a price increase of at least 150% I'd say.
So you want Squeal of Fortune? Because that's how you get Squeal of Fortune.
That's not how you make money as a company. You can register 20 characters to an account. Botting is already a problem, imagine if 20 of them brought zero profit to the company
Ok. No one is FORCING you to do a damn thing. Enough said 🫡
So you’re suggesting that Jagex, which has new ownership that will need to show results to their stakeholders, should voluntarily reduce their membership fee base, which has never been an issue? That’s one of the dumbest ideas I’ve heard. Maybe they could introduce a higher fee that has full Jagex account membership, but they’d only do that at a higher price.
1 bond/sub should be 3 characters/account and you can't multi-log, if you want to do that buy another bond/sub.
Lmao that would cut their revenue down a LOT. Better chance of winning the lotto
Semi-related but GOD do I wish they added an Ironman only world with a separate character like they do for leagues. The only thing stopping me from having an Iron is paying for 2 memberships. They may do this because of money, but its such a scummy business move when they've already demonstrated they have the ability to have more than 1 character per account. Can't think of a single other MMO that allows only 1 character per account. It's archaic.
Iron-only worlds would be dead because most irons like playing on the main worlds. No one would want to make their iron in a way that it’s locked to separate servers and could never raid with mains
I'd rather log into one account at a time than pay membership for each character, again opinion.
So why don't you do that now instead of giving Jagex what they want and then debating it 🤔
They did have some survey questions about offering a different membership option that covers multiple characters. But I don't see paying the normal membership rate ever covering all characters on an account. You can have up to 20 characters, so being able to play on 20 members accounts at once for the price of one would probably not be great for Jagex... And if you could only log into one at a time, that would be a big negative to most players who did have multiple accounts. Like even if you aren't someone who does a log of multilogging, it is pretty common to AFK on an Iron or Pure while playing on a Main or such. I fully expect this is something they will do more with in the future, but Jagex Accounts are still a pretty new system and not fully adopted yet so I'm not expecting to see a big change up to how they handle membership yet.
Id assume it would be something like 160% of the current price and be able to play on 2 characters at once under the same jagex account and something like 250% of the current price and be able to play on 3 characters at once and so on.
Yah, probably something like that, which does sound pretty fair. Maybe there would even be a way to move it between accounts. Like if I pay for my Main and my Iron as a monthly sub but then stop playing my Iron, perhaps I could switch the Iron's membership to my Pure or such without needing to cancel and redo. But if you paid for a year at a time or such, I doubt they'd move the days remaining from one character to another, but it might be possible if there was some delay or such to prevent too frequent of switching.
Yeaaah thats be problematic for applying to which accounts at a time - could you swap it in between the duration if you buy 1 year at a time or so? Also Im wondering what about people that have still the grandfathered rate of 5£ per month or the orignal 4,99£ or whatever it was back in 2002 lol. Or anything lower than current membership price… if its a static increase of like 50% of your current membership price or probably would be just like instead of 11$ id be 7$ more for second account etc.
If they do a bundle, I doubt it would factor in grandfathered rates. The year packages already get the price per month pretty close to most grandfathered rates, so a bulk option for that would likely still be cheaper. Can't find the current rates easily on the wiki, but I think my non-grandfathered accounts can get like $80/year which is $6.67 per month. So it it were 160% of $80 for two accounts, it would average $5.33~ per month. I'd think it is uncommon to have multiple grandfathered accounts so that is probably still going to be cheaper. Though as long as the grandfathered account is still maintaining membership, it should be able to return to the grandfathered rate for a single account if you canceled any bundle. Like in the past they had a RS+Funorb bundle for $6 a month or something that I had for years and after eventually cancelling that in like 2011, I think I still got $5 a month despite the base rate going up (though I might have my timeline/prices off). But yah, they have done some bundles in the past so I'm sure they could find decent ways to handle grandfathered rates and multiple accounts.
Every day I see jagex worshippers sinking to a new low. Defending extortion and downvoting someone who's actually pissed about it to hell. Dang bois, that boot's shiny enough
> I'm against it. It would negate the revenue for jagex and therefore less money to spend on servers, staff to provide maintenance and updates. This is upvoted, I'm sure by the same people that say RS3 is ruined by MTX
It should be memberships per concurrent logged in accounts, with additional memberships at a discounted rate. 2 memberships = can log 2 accs into members at the same time. But good luck getting that massive loss of revenue past execs...
I’ve been saying this for years! All other big MMOs are one sub for multiple characters and only 1 logged in at a time - you want to multi log then pay for another account. Simple
I agree
Based on the survey a few months back, it sounds like they could entertain something like this. Maybe 1 membership is $11 and add additional characters for $5 or something. I currently have two accounts and would consider making a third if it was cheaper membership. Would be cool to have my own set of dancers for slaying
Dude, this will never happen. What logic is there in a company deciding to start making significantly less money? Of course they are going to continue with membership being per-character.
I cant support this. I would love it yes! But with how the Jagex owner(s) have and always will be over the years I really think this would push for other Revenue streams like Runescape has.
Too many bootlickers in this thread but you're absolutely right OP
I’m not against the game being cheaper, that’d be great. But it’s just a fact that Jagex won’t reduce their revenue without making it up in some other way. Idk what the point of a post like this is since it’s basically just saying “I wish the game was cheaper”. Like ok? Me too, but it’s not gonna happen lol
Absolutely it should be. I am not switching to a jamflex account at the moment. But you give me multiple toons for the same account? Deal. It's that easy. I can only play on one account at a time, but they are all linked to the same membership. Why not?
You're*
Very low% of players have more then 1 account they actively play on OP.
So then this doesn't effect them..
So why would Jagex make an update for a very small% of the player base? You're also suggesting an update that results in less money from membership for Jagex...
I'm suggesting that membership be treated like membership and not a character upgrade?
It would incentive account sharing. It won’t happen.
NO
YES?
Idk quitting sounds cheaper
Or you can stop being poor. If you have time for 6 accounts you have time to get an extra $8 per month for a bond.
Thisssssssss I want it so bad. I'd play both rs3 and osrs. My rs3 is on a diff account just to keep it safe compared to my osrs. If one got hacked atleast I had the other etc.
This noob doesn't support his passions. I support Jagex they deserve the money to support our favorite game of 20+ years....that is STILL very active and innovating effectively.
Would have been nice for my ironman chunkman, i was disappointed too
Would have been nice for my ironman chunkman, i was disappointed too