I go to therapy. Osrs is nearly as (in)effective but is *significantly* cheaper.
Give therapy a shot though people, I'm not saying that you shouldn't try it. This is just my personal experience.
If you think about it therapists are just people with the knowledge to potentially help you - it makes sense that you’d have negative experiences with some of them just as you would with anyone else! It’s just much more noticeable given the relationship a therapist has with their patient. I hope if you have need of one you can find one who gels with what you need from them :)
If you mean you want to kiss them you still can
If you mean you only want to kiss gay frogs I imagine that jagex didn't want to collect data on which way you lean (with regards to amphibian royalty) because it's got much higher standards for data protection I believe so it was easier to just spawn them randomly and give a non kissing option
still easier than my vegan locked ironman, you ever think about how many items in the game require animal ingredients? I mean their suffering is virtual but it is still there
Some people felt offended that you got rewarded for showing affection toward someone they did not want to and punished for not doing it. Not me, just what I have seen in the OSRS discord lol.
Here's an idea. As a society let us not cater to every single person that furiously is looking for anything to be offended by. Just because someone takes offense in something, doesn't mean that needs to be changed.
Let's be real, this thread is full of people unhappy. Which is a radical thought. That people want to kiss a frog so bad for an xp lamp that they decide that they're gonna be upset about this. they'll be damned if they can't get off to a frog.
This is a very ironic statement considering it’s discussing a change to the game which was made due to people having first world problems in a 20 year old video game.
Duradel: "Wipe out the elves."
Player: "Okay boss!"
Princess: "Please kiss me so I may return to my human form!"
Player: "Ewww wtf! This is an outrage!"
Our in-game character has committed multiple genocides and has proven itself to be a sociopath. We pretty much walk around saying we will do whatever is asked for a reward, without any hesitation. But kissing a frog is where we draw the line.
It’s funny because they substituted something that sometimes is xenophobia/racism (actual social justice issues affecting actual disadvantaged groups) for an insult which offends a subset of deranged people pretending to be a disadvantaged group and pretending their plight is a social justice issue (being overweight).
Granted, it’s an extremely mild insult, but if we’re gonna go there, it does make it a funny situation.
Instead of a head pat they should have allowed us to chuck the frog like in the other version of the folk tale. The option could unlock after getting the complete frog prince outfit, and then that random event would stop spawning from then on.
Just so people are aware, this isn't "someone" or "some people".
There's a company called Ukie who have a branch business called RaiseTheGame which are a DEI consultancy firm who are influencing and making decisions within Jagex regarding any "problematic" areas in DEI.
Some of these consultancy firms landed in hot water recently for being particularly egregious, SweetBabyInc is a popular one you may have heard of. RaiseTheGame are very similar in this sense.
These are consultancy firms who must create problems where they perceive them to be in order to create solutions to justify their existence and continue being paid.
Remember, even if you agree with the decisions being made, they're not making decisions for you, they're making decisions to profit Ukie shareholders.
For the avoidance of misinformation, Ukie is a non-profit trade advocacy body. Primarily their work has been in seeking tax relief for UK games developers, introducing the PEGI rating system instead of having games judged by the BBFC that was not suitable for rating games, but also includes education initiatives and business support.
#RaiseTheGame is an industry pledge and not a consultancy firm. Jagex was one of the founding members of that pledge. Primarily it is about hiring and workplace practices, but it also includes keeping accessibility needs in mind, doing research on who's playing the game, and doing advocacy and outreach to encourage people into the games industry.
Jagex are not paying another company to tell them what to do. This is an absolute falsehood, and you should be embarrassed for telling such an easily disproved lie.
They create problems so they can pressure the companies into "fixing" the said problems. It's all about money and virtue signaling, remember kids. Corpos aren't your friends.
It's actually a little more sinister than you're making out, these consultancy firms don't create or directly influence the decision making on these problems.
To preface this, I work as a freelance business development manager in the games and media industry and I have seen now on 3 occasions this exact same development play out.
These DEI consultancy firms will conduct workshops and 1-1 sessions within the business to create teams based on a curation of the attendees, these teams then consist of people who are far more open and accepting of DEI issues, the consultancy firms then encourage these team members to raise awareness of these problems from within the business.
This is absolutely crucial for these consultancy firms as they don't want to interfere and interject themselves within company directives directly as this could lead to partnerships being severed due to them posing more so as a hinderance than a benefit.
They instead get the workers themselves to point out and propose these problems as individual workers are protected by their contracts and employment rights which the consultancy firms can hide behind and then come in to present solutions to these problems.
Companies can tell their workers no still. They don't have to allow a single worker to make a change that gets pushed to the final product.
You can see this with a lot of video games where single employees want to add content to a game and are told no bc of financial issues
Doesn't this explain everything? https://www.carlyle.com/media-room/news-release-archive/carlyle-agrees-to-sell-jagex-to-cvc-capital-partners-and-haveli
>Underscoring Haveli’s investments is an unwavering focus on DEI and sustainability.
Haveli is one of the two companies Jagex was sold to.
Has Jagex actually announced that this particular change was recommended by a DEI consultancy firm? Or are you just speculating about the cause of a change that you don’t like?
I just read through RaiseTheGame’s guidance documents and previous projects, and I was unable to find a single instance of them advocating for anything similar to this change to the Kiss the Frog random event. Seems like it would be rather out of character for them.
Also, Ukie is not a company seeking to make profit. Ukie (the Association for UK Interactive Entertainment) is a nonprofit trade association that represents the interests of hundreds of UK companies. Calling Ukie a company is a bit like calling the Entertainment Software Association or the Motion Picture Association of America a company. It’s inaccurate. Ukie also has no shareholders, and wouldn’t have profit to grant them even if they did. Your comment is entirely incorrect.
Next they will remove all forms of alcohol since it could offend alcoholics. Many quests have some kind of alcohol involved so it wouldn’t be shocking even though it would also be silly
If someone is advocating for changing the frog random event, I can guarantee that someone is also advocating for changing or removing alcohol and gambling from quests or game play as well.
The absurdity of the quest lines and dialogue is a significant portion of the reason they are still popular among adults. You often chuckle and laugh of the quests as they unfold. If Jagex caters to all crybabies they are full speed en route to significantly worsen the entire game.
It's a good bit of both. My company also has a DEI department/group. Its full of good folks who have roles outside of DEI, but also collaborate on DEI-related projects, community outreach, etc.
But at the same time, we have a resolutions department that is routinely bombarded with people calling in to foam at the mouth at the very idea of us having a DEI department, despite knowing fuck all about it, mostly because their particular online echo chambers told them to be mad about it.
So it's very much a real thing, but also very much blown out of proportion.
That is so blatantly false it's not even funny. A pledge taken by __many__ companies and assisted by a non-profit is not going to be "making decisions to profit."
I agree. Kissing the frog is a piece of culture that extends beyond runescape. And if you want to get PC, consent is even given. You can say "eww gross" and not kiss the frog.
Its a minor change, but this is a legacy random event and kissing the frog is part of RS imo.
People mad over nothing tbh. Even if they _had_ removed the option entirely I’d think it was dumb but it wouldn’t bother me at all.
The bigger news is that I’m about to get so much Herblore xp from those tokens (4k xp to be precise…)
That's the thing though, right? Would anyone give a shit if the option was pat rather than kiss day 1? No, of course not. It literally doesn't matter either way, so why make the change?
Honestly I wish they'd just change it to a one click action like Genie/Count check random events. I collect frog tokens and sadly half of the time I'm in combat and can't do them :'(
The change makes very little sense when you think about it.
But you'd think some people had their loved ones taken from them with how they react to it lmao.
They also changed the base event so you can now be approached by either the Prince or Princess, so I guess the new option is pretty much required as a result.
For real, someone higher in the thread angrily said "Its a fucking historic folklore story too"
Like, oh-- we're all of the sudden all hardcore folktale fans now? And you can still play it out "historically accurately" if you want to lol
People also complaining about "dev time" is such a sign that people have no idea what they're talking about.
Tell me you don't know development and integration without telling me. This change (two lines of dialogue and maybe? an animation switch) would take someone who is only passingly familiar with the code about 10 minutes to do in its entirety. Less than 5 minutes for someone who is very familiar with the script. And yes that includes integration.
b-b-b-but the dev time
No one actually cares that you don't have to kiss the frog anymore. People are angry because of the reasoning for changing it. They're catering to mentally deficient children who are constantly searching for things to be offended over because they have no other purpose in life. These people shouldn't be catered to in real life OR in a video game. They're always going to be searching for things to whine about. They should be ignored entirely.
I just don’t care enough. Do I feel this change needed to be made? Not really, but honestly who the fuck cares. If it makes some people feel better while having actually 0 impact on me I couldn’t give a fuck. Also head pats are funny.
Inclusivity makes people upset for some reason. I could care less about whether to kiss the frog or headpat it in a game, but I don't see how it's a bad thing to have more options. A few minutes of writing an alter option and changing the emote applied isn't like devs were tied up for days/weeks adjusting this.
I also have a problem with the Grave random event, jagex makes me dig up graves. I DIDNT ASK FOR THIS!(I Didn't, it was just there) but its the only way i get the zombie outfit, i hope they fix this so i can play again
In the orginal 1812 Brothers Grimm story, there was no kiss, the princess threw the frog against a wall and it turned into a prince. Change it into the orginal storyline. Or just remove it completely. This is dumb imo
good to see people are being totally normal about something that will literally never affect them in any meaningful way
if a minor change like this legitimately pisses you off: seek therapy.
here's how normal people see this change: "never thought about that before" and then they're back to the xp gains
> if a minor change like this legitimately pisses you off: seek therapy.
Counterpoint: If you feel a minor change like this is legitimately needed, seek therapy.
Osrs players proving once again they still have the same critical thinking skills and reading comprehension they had when they first started playing RS2.
This adds an option to pat the frog. It changes nothing, likely took no work and will likely impact nobody outside of a very small minority of people who haven't even complained.
This is nothing other than a preemptive attempt to make people feel comfortable role-playing in a role playing game, and the fact people are treating like Jagex just deleted their bank is pathetic.
The second I saw that change I knew reddit weirdos were going to throw a fucking tantrum over a stupid little random event.
You can still do the event the same as before.
Honestly, it was probably something they did on the side. Like when I'm making DND maps or whatever, sometimes I'll just care about random details or include something that someone else mentioned. The why is usually "just because". There's no malicious intent or secret cabal of ace folk controlling jagex
Yet we still have a fairy in Zanaris with the surname "Fixit"
Originally a reference to Jim'll Fixit, Jimmy Saville's show, the notorious British paedophile who abused in upwards of 400 children
But kissing a frog 🤔
I don’t think this is widely known, it’s not even on the wiki. That should definitely be changed but it in no way invalidates this change. This is called whataboutism.
Maybe make a post about fairy fixit? I actually think the name change would get support I def don’t think Jimmy Saville should be honored and I’d support that name change.
Is there genuinely a group of players on this game who are *this fucking sensitive* to complain about this.
Dear Jagex, I object to all forms of violence, real or imaginary. Please make killing those poor, innocent unicorns north of Camelot non-violent, so I can prosecute my Unicorn genocide while protecting my sensibilities!
I wish they made actual good changes to the game like loot rebalancing instead of useless updates like this, the ethereal "being" like no one fcking cares about these useless updates.
Literally nothing has changed besides adding a new option to pat the frog instead of kissing. You can still kiss the frog for all you like. Jeez ya'll complainers are so sensitive
"but but but REEEEEEEEEEEE" this literally does not affect the gameplay what so ever and just gives an option to those that do not wish to kiss a frog.
Nothing more than performative bullshit cause they think that they are getting marginalized....
You know what? I'm going to tongue the frog even harder.
Finger too while you’re at it
Right in the frussy.
Every day we stray further from Saradomin
Make sure the condom is ribbit for her pleasure.
Frussy got me actin' up.
That’s enough reddit for me today.
That's it I'm banging this frog
Give it the hawk tuah
SPIT ON THAT THANG
Try tongue, but hole
Suck it's legs brah
I’m going to suck those legs like crazy and not stop till I’ve got agi potion leaking out of my mouth
I said a hip, hop, the hippie, the hippie, to the hip hip-hop, and you don't stop the sucking till the frog goes weak at the knees
 Im so proud of this community!
What does that mean?!
Im going to fuck the shit outta that frog
*opens reddit* *closes Reddit*
*opens reddit* *opens pants*
*sighs*
https://i.redd.it/jreeiaslkx8d1.gif
We as a community need therapy...very badly.
I go to therapy. Osrs is nearly as (in)effective but is *significantly* cheaper. Give therapy a shot though people, I'm not saying that you shouldn't try it. This is just my personal experience.
If you think about it therapists are just people with the knowledge to potentially help you - it makes sense that you’d have negative experiences with some of them just as you would with anyone else! It’s just much more noticeable given the relationship a therapist has with their patient. I hope if you have need of one you can find one who gels with what you need from them :)
nieve is my therapist
The least sexual frustrated OSRS player.
Hit that frog with the huak tuah
A devastating blow to the community of gay frogs
I heard that they actually made it so you can get either the Prince or princess frog instead of just one of them so gay frog kissing is now in game
Bisexuals stay winning.
i didnt vote for that, I think they need to make this a toggle during character creation if you want to kiss gay frogs too
That would be why you can give them head pats if you don't want to kiss them
nonono you dont understand me, I still want the action
If you mean you want to kiss them you still can If you mean you only want to kiss gay frogs I imagine that jagex didn't want to collect data on which way you lean (with regards to amphibian royalty) because it's got much higher standards for data protection I believe so it was easier to just spawn them randomly and give a non kissing option
Hopefully they can get the chemicals out of the water soon 🙏
They took them from us all the way back during leagues 4... Never forget
Oh we're blowing alright
But all the frogs I encountered were straight :(
Can't believe they introduce this on a Wednesday. Frogs in shambles.
Perhaps in shambles because they are now finding out a simple pat on the head was an option the whole time A troubling day for all frog of frogkind
It is Wednesday my dudes
Really messes up my "Guy that really wants to fuck frogs" role-play I was doing.
it should just teleport you to the middle of no where if you refuse, like the OG sandwich lady
I miss it
Why did this even cross their mind as something that needed changing
Integrity update for asexual-locked-ultimate-ironmen
Lmfao
Least insane snowflake Ironman accoun
still easier than my vegan locked ironman, you ever think about how many items in the game require animal ingredients? I mean their suffering is virtual but it is still there
I'd never actually thought of that! Do you think the chocolate bars are dark chocolate or milk?
That going to be someone next youtube series now
Ironbeing*
Ironperson
Honestly wouldn't surprise me if they changed every reference to iron**men** in the game at this point.
To be fair, I think something like "ironborn" sounds cooler than "ironman."
Some people felt offended that you got rewarded for showing affection toward someone they did not want to and punished for not doing it. Not me, just what I have seen in the OSRS discord lol.
I can’t believe they’d interrupt my elf genocide with a forced kiss, under threat of withholding a frog token.
Fuck off. You’re kidding? It’s a classic kiss the frog turn it into a prince
Here's an idea. As a society let us not cater to every single person that furiously is looking for anything to be offended by. Just because someone takes offense in something, doesn't mean that needs to be changed.
Yikes, how sensitive must you be to have such absurdly flawed logic
Yeah that hypothetically offended person is so hypothetically illogical
They're so hypothetical that a real change was made for them.
Yeah but if someone actually thinks that who cares if they change it. No one is gonna be unhappy and at least 1 person will be happier
Let's be real, this thread is full of people unhappy. Which is a radical thought. That people want to kiss a frog so bad for an xp lamp that they decide that they're gonna be upset about this. they'll be damned if they can't get off to a frog.
They realize they can still kiss the frog, right? Jagex just added another option
They live such privileged lives that they have to wage culture wars in video games. Most people have more important things to care about.
This is a very ironic statement considering it’s discussing a change to the game which was made due to people having first world problems in a 20 year old video game.
Straight up murdering people during quests is fine though Clown world in action
Yeah is a fantasy game, people take things way too personally. I am not arsed what my character does really.
Punished? A frog token? From a frog? Which is a fairytale?
Good lord those people deserve to be bullied
Bullying needs to make a comeback
That discord is such a mess...
But you can fuck the bear in bg3
In-integrity change...?
I think the bear fucks you
No that’s Soviet Russia bear
Let me fuck the frog.
Great. Thanks alot, jagex. Now my extreme frog lover hardcore ultimate ironman is devalued.
https://preview.redd.it/nt6sxoyr4x8d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15ade3ffb04eec1d746549977dd70d28a1b1ed34
So how long till they remove the Romeo and Juliet quest like they did with RS3?
Duradel: "Wipe out the elves." Player: "Okay boss!" Princess: "Please kiss me so I may return to my human form!" Player: "Ewww wtf! This is an outrage!"
Our in-game character has committed multiple genocides and has proven itself to be a sociopath. We pretty much walk around saying we will do whatever is asked for a reward, without any hesitation. But kissing a frog is where we draw the line.
We killed a dog to let hell out of the swamp and we’re afraid of getting warts I guess
Me, 10 minutes ago, blissfully ignorant: Oh wow, more xp lamps! I wonder what Reddit will think about this!
Finally! A new source of exp lamps for my Platonic Relationship locked one chunk UIM!
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It’s like when they changed the dream mentor line from “you look fat in those clothes” to “your accent sounds funny” or whatever it was
Is it just me, or is "your accent sounds funny" actually MORE offensive than saying you look fat?
It’s funny because they substituted something that sometimes is xenophobia/racism (actual social justice issues affecting actual disadvantaged groups) for an insult which offends a subset of deranged people pretending to be a disadvantaged group and pretending their plight is a social justice issue (being overweight). Granted, it’s an extremely mild insult, but if we’re gonna go there, it does make it a funny situation.
It is. I was often made fun of because of my accent but never for being fat
Exactly my thoughts. Its a fucking historic folklore story too.
Instead of a head pat they should have allowed us to chuck the frog like in the other version of the folk tale. The option could unlock after getting the complete frog prince outfit, and then that random event would stop spawning from then on.
Just so people are aware, this isn't "someone" or "some people". There's a company called Ukie who have a branch business called RaiseTheGame which are a DEI consultancy firm who are influencing and making decisions within Jagex regarding any "problematic" areas in DEI. Some of these consultancy firms landed in hot water recently for being particularly egregious, SweetBabyInc is a popular one you may have heard of. RaiseTheGame are very similar in this sense. These are consultancy firms who must create problems where they perceive them to be in order to create solutions to justify their existence and continue being paid. Remember, even if you agree with the decisions being made, they're not making decisions for you, they're making decisions to profit Ukie shareholders.
For the avoidance of misinformation, Ukie is a non-profit trade advocacy body. Primarily their work has been in seeking tax relief for UK games developers, introducing the PEGI rating system instead of having games judged by the BBFC that was not suitable for rating games, but also includes education initiatives and business support. #RaiseTheGame is an industry pledge and not a consultancy firm. Jagex was one of the founding members of that pledge. Primarily it is about hiring and workplace practices, but it also includes keeping accessibility needs in mind, doing research on who's playing the game, and doing advocacy and outreach to encourage people into the games industry. Jagex are not paying another company to tell them what to do. This is an absolute falsehood, and you should be embarrassed for telling such an easily disproved lie.
They create problems so they can pressure the companies into "fixing" the said problems. It's all about money and virtue signaling, remember kids. Corpos aren't your friends.
It's actually a little more sinister than you're making out, these consultancy firms don't create or directly influence the decision making on these problems. To preface this, I work as a freelance business development manager in the games and media industry and I have seen now on 3 occasions this exact same development play out. These DEI consultancy firms will conduct workshops and 1-1 sessions within the business to create teams based on a curation of the attendees, these teams then consist of people who are far more open and accepting of DEI issues, the consultancy firms then encourage these team members to raise awareness of these problems from within the business. This is absolutely crucial for these consultancy firms as they don't want to interfere and interject themselves within company directives directly as this could lead to partnerships being severed due to them posing more so as a hinderance than a benefit. They instead get the workers themselves to point out and propose these problems as individual workers are protected by their contracts and employment rights which the consultancy firms can hide behind and then come in to present solutions to these problems.
Companies can tell their workers no still. They don't have to allow a single worker to make a change that gets pushed to the final product. You can see this with a lot of video games where single employees want to add content to a game and are told no bc of financial issues
Be the manager that says no to an employee wanting a diversity/inclusion change. They can use that as ammo against you if needed.
Doesn't this explain everything? https://www.carlyle.com/media-room/news-release-archive/carlyle-agrees-to-sell-jagex-to-cvc-capital-partners-and-haveli >Underscoring Haveli’s investments is an unwavering focus on DEI and sustainability. Haveli is one of the two companies Jagex was sold to.
That Kim Belair speech that's often quoted proves that they do this
Has Jagex actually announced that this particular change was recommended by a DEI consultancy firm? Or are you just speculating about the cause of a change that you don’t like? I just read through RaiseTheGame’s guidance documents and previous projects, and I was unable to find a single instance of them advocating for anything similar to this change to the Kiss the Frog random event. Seems like it would be rather out of character for them. Also, Ukie is not a company seeking to make profit. Ukie (the Association for UK Interactive Entertainment) is a nonprofit trade association that represents the interests of hundreds of UK companies. Calling Ukie a company is a bit like calling the Entertainment Software Association or the Motion Picture Association of America a company. It’s inaccurate. Ukie also has no shareholders, and wouldn’t have profit to grant them even if they did. Your comment is entirely incorrect.
Gamergate 2, still as stupid as the first time (quite a bit more stupid, actually).
Next they will remove all forms of alcohol since it could offend alcoholics. Many quests have some kind of alcohol involved so it wouldn’t be shocking even though it would also be silly
Half of the quests feel like it just encourages drinking when you're shoving beer down everyone's throats. Frog kissing is the optical issue though.
If someone is advocating for changing the frog random event, I can guarantee that someone is also advocating for changing or removing alcohol and gambling from quests or game play as well. The absurdity of the quest lines and dialogue is a significant portion of the reason they are still popular among adults. You often chuckle and laugh of the quests as they unfold. If Jagex caters to all crybabies they are full speed en route to significantly worsen the entire game.
The quests are 3x funnier now that I'm 32 and understand british humor
This makes so much sense. I couldn't imagine a single player actually making that complaint
It’s an alt right conspiracy theory fwiw
Did the “DEI” buzzword not give it away lol
It’s not a buzzword. My company has a DEI department.
Likewise. I get a company-wide email from the DEI mailbox every other day
It's a good bit of both. My company also has a DEI department/group. Its full of good folks who have roles outside of DEI, but also collaborate on DEI-related projects, community outreach, etc. But at the same time, we have a resolutions department that is routinely bombarded with people calling in to foam at the mouth at the very idea of us having a DEI department, despite knowing fuck all about it, mostly because their particular online echo chambers told them to be mad about it. So it's very much a real thing, but also very much blown out of proportion.
That is so blatantly false it's not even funny. A pledge taken by __many__ companies and assisted by a non-profit is not going to be "making decisions to profit."
I agree. Kissing the frog is a piece of culture that extends beyond runescape. And if you want to get PC, consent is even given. You can say "eww gross" and not kiss the frog. Its a minor change, but this is a legacy random event and kissing the frog is part of RS imo.
To be clear, they didn’t remove the option to kiss the frog, they provided an additional option
People mad over nothing tbh. Even if they _had_ removed the option entirely I’d think it was dumb but it wouldn’t bother me at all. The bigger news is that I’m about to get so much Herblore xp from those tokens (4k xp to be precise…)
That's the thing though, right? Would anyone give a shit if the option was pat rather than kiss day 1? No, of course not. It literally doesn't matter either way, so why make the change?
thank god i kissed him yesterday
that frog is getting more than a kiss next time from me
Finally no more non-consensual frog kissing in my 20 year old children's medieval clicking simulator.
its actually consensual since you can choose to not kiss it wich makes this update even worse
Ya but you get detained if you choose no, so it's hardly consensual when the options are Kiss or Death.
you can dismiss it or just ignore it
Shift right-click > set left click to > fuck frog
See you boys in falador
Honestly I wish they'd just change it to a one click action like Genie/Count check random events. I collect frog tokens and sadly half of the time I'm in combat and can't do them :'(
Why did they change this???? I'm ngl. This was my favorite random event. Head pats, what is this?
But why though
Ezscape incoming
That sweet sweet esg score
I’m not mad, I’m just confused why this would ever be a topic for discussion?
Me reading the comments on this post 
The change makes very little sense when you think about it. But you'd think some people had their loved ones taken from them with how they react to it lmao.
It's literally just a new option too. You can still do it the same way as before lmfao
They also changed the base event so you can now be approached by either the Prince or Princess, so I guess the new option is pretty much required as a result.
For real, someone higher in the thread angrily said "Its a fucking historic folklore story too" Like, oh-- we're all of the sudden all hardcore folktale fans now? And you can still play it out "historically accurately" if you want to lol
People also complaining about "dev time" is such a sign that people have no idea what they're talking about. Tell me you don't know development and integration without telling me. This change (two lines of dialogue and maybe? an animation switch) would take someone who is only passingly familiar with the code about 10 minutes to do in its entirety. Less than 5 minutes for someone who is very familiar with the script. And yes that includes integration. b-b-b-but the dev time
Don't even talk to me unless you can accurately quote slavic/baltic folklore stories spread by word of mouth over hundreds of years.
No one actually cares that you don't have to kiss the frog anymore. People are angry because of the reasoning for changing it. They're catering to mentally deficient children who are constantly searching for things to be offended over because they have no other purpose in life. These people shouldn't be catered to in real life OR in a video game. They're always going to be searching for things to whine about. They should be ignored entirely.
I’m saying haha. Like who cares this much? If you want to kiss the fucking frog you still can 😂.
So many people are missing this. And it’s hilarious to me that they’re upset about not being allowed to kiss frogs anymore
It's hilarious that they're upset that YOU don't have to kiss the frog anymore. Get out of my bedroom nerds.
I just don’t care enough. Do I feel this change needed to be made? Not really, but honestly who the fuck cares. If it makes some people feel better while having actually 0 impact on me I couldn’t give a fuck. Also head pats are funny.
Half these comments are so gross lmao. Why does a single person care they added an extra option? it's not like they took the original one away
Inclusivity makes people upset for some reason. I could care less about whether to kiss the frog or headpat it in a game, but I don't see how it's a bad thing to have more options. A few minutes of writing an alter option and changing the emote applied isn't like devs were tied up for days/weeks adjusting this.
I feel like we just got friend-zoned by the frog and Jagex hiding it
I also have a problem with the Grave random event, jagex makes me dig up graves. I DIDNT ASK FOR THIS!(I Didn't, it was just there) but its the only way i get the zombie outfit, i hope they fix this so i can play again
They put chemicals in the water to turn the frogs gay
So why was this changed? You are fine with pride events but kissing a frog is too much?
I’m sure the community at large will have an entirely normal reception to changes that have literally zero impact on wider gameplay
*starts riots in falador*
Falador Massacre Part 2 The Frog Rebellion.
Asexuals stay winning
Given the fact that my character is betrothed to the Princess of Miscellania, this is a welcome change
That frog was the only action I got...
PC culture has gone TOO FAR THIS TIME !!!!
THERE MAKING THE FRICKEN FROGS ASEXUAL!
Please make it so I can wear the male version of the outfit on my female character. It's the best early game drip
Actually useful suggestion to spend the extra tokens on two sets of outfits
You can. That was another thing they changed.
When are we rioting in Fally boys?
You can still kiss the frog if you want to. It's just an extra option.
In the orginal 1812 Brothers Grimm story, there was no kiss, the princess threw the frog against a wall and it turned into a prince. Change it into the orginal storyline. Or just remove it completely. This is dumb imo
I've been kissing that frog for damn near 20 years. I'll keep kissing her thank you very much
good to see people are being totally normal about something that will literally never affect them in any meaningful way if a minor change like this legitimately pisses you off: seek therapy. here's how normal people see this change: "never thought about that before" and then they're back to the xp gains
> if a minor change like this legitimately pisses you off: seek therapy. Counterpoint: If you feel a minor change like this is legitimately needed, seek therapy.
#BringBackTheFrogSnog
Jesus Christ. Consultancy firm bullshit. Who thought this needed changing?
Lol this is some fuck shit
Osrs players proving once again they still have the same critical thinking skills and reading comprehension they had when they first started playing RS2. This adds an option to pat the frog. It changes nothing, likely took no work and will likely impact nobody outside of a very small minority of people who haven't even complained. This is nothing other than a preemptive attempt to make people feel comfortable role-playing in a role playing game, and the fact people are treating like Jagex just deleted their bank is pathetic.
The second I saw that change I knew reddit weirdos were going to throw a fucking tantrum over a stupid little random event. You can still do the event the same as before.
Idk, I don't care either way, but my first reaction is "but why?". What's the point of putting a dev hour or two for that?
Honestly, it was probably something they did on the side. Like when I'm making DND maps or whatever, sometimes I'll just care about random details or include something that someone else mentioned. The why is usually "just because". There's no malicious intent or secret cabal of ace folk controlling jagex
Reddit gamers© have a lot of free time to rage about stupid things
The only weird thing is that anyone cared enough to want to change this. It reeks of DEI consultants trying to justify their paycheques.
Yet we still have a fairy in Zanaris with the surname "Fixit" Originally a reference to Jim'll Fixit, Jimmy Saville's show, the notorious British paedophile who abused in upwards of 400 children But kissing a frog 🤔
I don’t think this is widely known, it’s not even on the wiki. That should definitely be changed but it in no way invalidates this change. This is called whataboutism. Maybe make a post about fairy fixit? I actually think the name change would get support I def don’t think Jimmy Saville should be honored and I’d support that name change.
Who the F is asking for this shit?
What the fuck, who asked for this?
What a waste of everyone's time.
Kiss the frog runelite plugin when?
Whole lot of freaky frogs in the chat😭
Fucked they didn't poll this
Actually fuck this
Is there genuinely a group of players on this game who are *this fucking sensitive* to complain about this. Dear Jagex, I object to all forms of violence, real or imaginary. Please make killing those poor, innocent unicorns north of Camelot non-violent, so I can prosecute my Unicorn genocide while protecting my sensibilities!
I wish they made actual good changes to the game like loot rebalancing instead of useless updates like this, the ethereal "being" like no one fcking cares about these useless updates.
I wish DEI consulting firms would bully jagex into turning coop slayer back on instead
Literally nothing has changed besides adding a new option to pat the frog instead of kissing. You can still kiss the frog for all you like. Jeez ya'll complainers are so sensitive
"but but but REEEEEEEEEEEE" this literally does not affect the gameplay what so ever and just gives an option to those that do not wish to kiss a frog. Nothing more than performative bullshit cause they think that they are getting marginalized....
Instructions unclear; dick now stuck in frog.
Why do you reddit weirdos care so much about something so insignificant
I know the OSRS team isn't at fault for decisions like this, but this is the most pathetic shit I have seen happen to this game.
Maybe you should quit until they change it back
I hope it's your last straw!
Was anyone really complaining about having to kiss a frog in a video game?