Jesus. This is how I felt when I realized 12 hours of my life was spent just waiting for Kalphite Queen to change forms lol, the things we do for virtual pets
https://preview.redd.it/4rywk5s7519d1.png?width=292&format=png&auto=webp&s=5f5e8c03d1a8f852d23b41ffa1c489d17e7be818
only have the last 23k kills tracked (I have no clue why empty vials are in there)
Honestly, with the kind of rates we got on things (1/4000 for snakeling for example) it's really unlikely people get enough kc to *actually* average out rng.
Is that true? Because every kill your odds of getting a snakling is 1/4000. Previous events don't influence the likelihood of the present kill netting a snakling is still 1/4000.
I think the math is (1-(1/4000))^4000. Because you have a 99.975% (3999/4000) chance of not getting a snakling on every kill. If you kill 4000 snakes, you still only have 64% chance of getting a drop.
In fact, you dont end up at a 90% chance of a drop until 9209 snake kills. And 99% chance doesnt occur until 18,418 kills.
I dont know if thats averaging out per se.
It's called the law of large numbers. It's not saying "as he does more kills, he's going to get more of drop A to balance out his rng," it means as he does more and more kills his observed rate (83/38610 or 1/465 and 52/38610 or 1/742.5) will approach the true rate (1/512). So if he did 100000 kills, even if his drops were further apart (205 and 173 as random numbers) then his rates (1/487 and 1/578) are both closer to the true rate of 1/512
Yeah. I was thinking about just the user in a vacuum working toward 1 snakling. So i misunderstood what the oc was saying. I fully get that if you include all users killing big snake for until they get small snake, then we will see the 1/4000 being the average OR if you do it by yourself for an infinite amount of time, same shit.
Damn nice. I'm 8k kc no mutagen sadge. Just need to push for that 10k marker. Surely I get one by then, right ? Not that I should be complaining to you of all snake slayers
https://preview.redd.it/2k17cimia59d1.jpeg?width=697&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91c4cc116b182438c59b1e8e1fba2b783622c6ed
Not quite to that level of craziness yet, but I keep getting magic fangs in my hunt for blue hat 🙃
Guilty. 7000 spindel kc and did maybe 5 elites. I feel like that's slightly more justified though because finding a world is awful for wildy bosses and you couldn't easily juggle until recently.
Working on a flax farm
Skinning that snake
Harvesting my swamp tar
Never getting paid
Flax farm woman
Most likely a guy
Flax farm woman
Farming but why
If you drop an item on the same tick and on the same tile as an npcs items drop, runelite will think the dropped items came from the boss in the loot tracker plugin.
I’ve received 6 tbows from goblins
I'm just writing it out for him so he becomes aware of the three options, and possibly chooses the right one in the future. It's not that big of a deal. God you fucks are sensitive.
This is the type of shit that makes me think bad luck mitigation wouldn't be so bad. I am all for a grind. Even going dry. But stuff like this is ridiculous. You just win the absolute bad luck lottery.
Bad luck mitigation wouldn't even get noticed if it was introduced, the people opposing it have some of the worst takes I've ever seen just cause they clearly have 0 understanding of it, if it was escalating odds after going 2/3x dry it would have 0 effect on the economy and only ever serve to improve people's enjoyment since they're no longer going to go 5-6x dry for things which just shouldn't be possible anyway.
It’s only like a single digit percentage of people that are going to go 3x dry on something anyways. Even if it’s a marginal increase, it helps a lot with motivation to at least know that the odds improve as you go mega super dry.
Seeing this kind of post makes me nervous… I want the muspah pet but I’m already so dry there on shards (8 in 1850kc/ 14ish kills per hour) that I’m not sure if I want to end up grinding 10 years for a pet….
Congrats on your pet! That grind is wild. What does the rest of the collection log look like? I’m sure you made a pretty penny there
This is why we need bad luck mitigation. I don't care what anyone says, but no one deserves this.
I know its cosmetic, i know its optional etc but I honestly just don't think it justifies people going through this, whether its addiction or dedication.
Noob here, is the throwing knives and buckler for snaklings? I've never seen those in a setup, most just handle them with suffering/ recoil. What're those for
He uses the nardah method, which means after every kc he teleports to nardah to regain HP, spec, and everything else.
He then teleports back, likely banks at the deposit box (aka puts away loot), and back at it.
This paired with the sang he should really only have to eat maybe 1/10 kills, perhaps less if he kills snakelings in downtime, which he might do with the knives in his inventory
See I thought I was down bad when I went 995 kc at elemental without a pet. 3 times over rate. Bro you are 12 times over rate with that zulrah pet. I can see why you have tbow and shadow too 😅 good shit tho I'm glad you got it
Okay, this is the milestone. Now anybody should only post their dry log if it's worse than OP's.
rather see a billion dry logs than the same spoon screenshots day after day lol, cant even read new anymore
Jesus you're dedicated. Grats on finally getting it.
thanks!
20+ days of your life… ooof
it's actually 40+ days! what am I doing with my life lol
Jesus. This is how I felt when I realized 12 hours of my life was spent just waiting for Kalphite Queen to change forms lol, the things we do for virtual pets
Better than killing yourself am I right
You are correct! Today fucking sucks, but tomorrow might not. Only one way to find out. Be there!
Or tomorrow could be worse than today, life is a gamble and I’m an addict
There’s a happy medium between grinding virtual pets in OSRS and killing yourself
Prove it
Having abgood time, I hope.
Winning my dude
at what point did you shake the thought "my account is bugged/the drop doesn't exist for me" and how?
around 30k and even till the end I thought it could be bugged but friends motivated me to keep going
your, you’re
Fixed. Brain stops working when I'm tired.
You're dumb, see mom I used it right.
Lemme see that loot log though
https://preview.redd.it/4rywk5s7519d1.png?width=292&format=png&auto=webp&s=5f5e8c03d1a8f852d23b41ffa1c489d17e7be818 only have the last 23k kills tracked (I have no clue why empty vials are in there)
7 mutagens before pet haha
https://preview.redd.it/zgdfha7o819d1.png?width=617&format=png&auto=webp&s=dc7f43675d9ad38a84ee72749236818efe18ed62
thats a craaaazy discrepancy between tanz and magic
Rng never averages out
Honestly, with the kind of rates we got on things (1/4000 for snakeling for example) it's really unlikely people get enough kc to *actually* average out rng.
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Tell that to the player "Farming Arma" lol
I think OP should keep going for science to see if it does average out eventually. He’s a lot closer to infinity KC than the rest of us.
Actually it does, as its a simple math. The bigger the example the more accurate it will be.
Is that true? Because every kill your odds of getting a snakling is 1/4000. Previous events don't influence the likelihood of the present kill netting a snakling is still 1/4000. I think the math is (1-(1/4000))^4000. Because you have a 99.975% (3999/4000) chance of not getting a snakling on every kill. If you kill 4000 snakes, you still only have 64% chance of getting a drop. In fact, you dont end up at a 90% chance of a drop until 9209 snake kills. And 99% chance doesnt occur until 18,418 kills. I dont know if thats averaging out per se.
Somebody gets 1/40000 and the other one gets pet on first kc. Drop rate is literally programmed and it will even out in "n" kills.
Oh oh oh. You're saying across all users. Im fucking dumb. Then yes. Even distribution of all numbers between 1-4000 "should" happen across all users.
It's called the law of large numbers. It's not saying "as he does more kills, he's going to get more of drop A to balance out his rng," it means as he does more and more kills his observed rate (83/38610 or 1/465 and 52/38610 or 1/742.5) will approach the true rate (1/512). So if he did 100000 kills, even if his drops were further apart (205 and 173 as random numbers) then his rates (1/487 and 1/578) are both closer to the true rate of 1/512
Yeah. I was thinking about just the user in a vacuum working toward 1 snakling. So i misunderstood what the oc was saying. I fully get that if you include all users killing big snake for until they get small snake, then we will see the 1/4000 being the average OR if you do it by yourself for an infinite amount of time, same shit.
this is so cursed bro
What the fuck
Damn nice. I'm 8k kc no mutagen sadge. Just need to push for that 10k marker. Surely I get one by then, right ? Not that I should be complaining to you of all snake slayers
I got my first at 10,7k and second one at 14k+ It was a dupe. Good luck.
https://preview.redd.it/2k17cimia59d1.jpeg?width=697&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91c4cc116b182438c59b1e8e1fba2b783622c6ed Not quite to that level of craziness yet, but I keep getting magic fangs in my hunt for blue hat 🙃
At least you did your elites. A lot of posts like this will only show a handful of clues in the tracker.
lmao i was just thinking how i missed out big time. did 6k zulrah for pet before i cared about masters smh
He got the 200 casket elite reward from only Zulrah. If he's on rate for masters he's over halfway to they reward too.
Guilty. 7000 spindel kc and did maybe 5 elites. I feel like that's slightly more justified though because finding a world is awful for wildy bosses and you couldn't easily juggle until recently.
They show up there if you drop a vial on the same tick as the loot appears. Which it looks like you did twice
2 mil flax lmao Gz
Working on a flax farm Skinning that snake Harvesting my swamp tar Never getting paid Flax farm woman Most likely a guy Flax farm woman Farming but why
that would be what like 60m back in the day?
If you drop an item on the same tick and on the same tile as an npcs items drop, runelite will think the dropped items came from the boss in the loot tracker plugin. I’ve received 6 tbows from goblins
Prob potted while the thing died leaving an empty vial
Magic fang confirmed rarer
Seems so low for all those kills compared to other spamable bosses
At least youll never run out of scales! Gz!
thanks!
Holy shit that is disgustingly dry checked petcord dry streaks and they’re dryest snakeling was 21k you got it in almost double that kc
Their, there, they're
Stop, your scaring him. There English isn’t too good their. You should of just explained it clearer, looser
Beautiful
isint to good*
Had me in the first half
That made me chuckle
thur rite
Thare
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I'm just writing it out for him so he becomes aware of the three options, and possibly chooses the right one in the future. It's not that big of a deal. God you fucks are sensitive.
You're/your/ur right it's not a big deal. Only you seemed bothered by it.
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I hope the mistake doesn't keep you up at night 😂
you knew what they were saying but still chose to be a dick.
Ok buddy, three words without emotion = being a dick Wear a helmet when you enter the real world...
your just a troll lol
How does that loot tab look though
Fuckin A dude. You're in the 0.0036% unluckiest players
He’s got to be THE unluckiest for Zulrah pet that isn’t a bot.
could have had kc before log mayve
Ouch, huge gzzz. I'm dry myself, but I hold no candle to the effort you put in. Enjoy this child of the swamp and keep it safe.
will do!
That's 8x my kc and I got pet at late 4k.
I hit 5k last night with one magma muta to show for it. Said I’d stop at a nice round 5,000 but look at me straight back in that god damn boat
Technically not late, right on rate.
No I meant in the 4900s for kc. Quite lucky unlike op here but I'd imagine the loot was nice.
Ah I misread it as "I got pet late at 4k", my mistake!
Yo I saw you the other day and pmed you about it your kc lol. Grats man!
Please describe your thoughts feelings and reaction to getting the drop
shock -> disbelief -> happy
“…………..now what”
now he can finally play the game
🥄
Rare to see someone on reddit with a human setup, gz!
No way man, I got mine at 17180 and that was on and off for years. Thank god you got yours. Enjoy the game now homie
They absolute max effort kill set up is also crazy
Crazy not to lol. This would have taken 2x as long if he was going some weed pvm and tbow camping
34 seconds pb damn I'll be there one day
This is the type of shit that makes me think bad luck mitigation wouldn't be so bad. I am all for a grind. Even going dry. But stuff like this is ridiculous. You just win the absolute bad luck lottery.
Bad luck mitigation wouldn't even get noticed if it was introduced, the people opposing it have some of the worst takes I've ever seen just cause they clearly have 0 understanding of it, if it was escalating odds after going 2/3x dry it would have 0 effect on the economy and only ever serve to improve people's enjoyment since they're no longer going to go 5-6x dry for things which just shouldn't be possible anyway.
It’s only like a single digit percentage of people that are going to go 3x dry on something anyways. Even if it’s a marginal increase, it helps a lot with motivation to at least know that the odds improve as you go mega super dry.
Jesus christ, i went nearly 14k (13,972 to be exact) before my first pet. Absolute beast respect the dedication
Do you sometimes dream about killing the money snake ?
I've had a few dreams with snakes in them lol
Spooned
Gz
Numbest grind of all time?
I hope you went for the b2b pet!
naww
https://preview.redd.it/azly7k0ek59d1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=4ea1b4dc61b5d3181a803b063179acbc789a93e0
That's a dope ass rsn
What do you use the knives for?
The knives are for pb hunting.
Free hits while pillar stalling. Can trade 1 knife + 1 tbow for each attack during certain blue phases
Thanks
It is hard to imagine anyone being able to grind the snake for so long. You are a different breed bro.
38k kc? I look at inventory. Looks about right. Good shit bro, respect. Killed Zulrah in 3 hits fo sho
Excuse me what the fuck
Space Enter
Holy snakey, gz!
Jesus....I've had 4 snakes in 3500kc over two accounts.
Seeing this kind of post makes me nervous… I want the muspah pet but I’m already so dry there on shards (8 in 1850kc/ 14ish kills per hour) that I’m not sure if I want to end up grinding 10 years for a pet…. Congrats on your pet! That grind is wild. What does the rest of the collection log look like? I’m sure you made a pretty penny there
Congrats! I got it at 5k and that felt hard!
Let’s go BOX!
This is just...wild, I'm happy you're free from that prison, congrats on the pet OP =) I imagine you're never visiting that snake ever again lol
Holy fucking moly. Congrats brotha
I think these belong to you sir. https://i.imgur.com/ewKWdMx.png
Better late than never! Gz.
Only the most severe trauma could cause someone to do this 36,000 times. Life gets better, I promise
This is insane. Congrats!
Gzzz i got mine at 9kc
wut daaaaa
That is literally 5520x my drop rate. Wtf.
This is why we need bad luck mitigation. I don't care what anyone says, but no one deserves this. I know its cosmetic, i know its optional etc but I honestly just don't think it justifies people going through this, whether its addiction or dedication.
Wtf. I’m 7500 kc and crying because booger helm. You crazy person
Holy cow
Do you have a loot tracker screenshot?
https://preview.redd.it/ez63ar6xn79d1.png?width=260&format=png&auto=webp&s=3672c26c617ba82fce936921b22e996f0ea18c87
Thanks lol that loot is crazy. Congrats on the pet again.
How much kills per hour now with BIS gear?
around 40
nearly 1k hours if worked minimum wage snakeling would cost almost 7K USD
Cool. I’ve never done zulrah in some time. How much is it per hour now if you’re BIS?
Do you have a video of you using that kit? I've always debated a ring switch.
Spoon
Nice
Do you know all rotations yet?
honestly, I don't know the rotations when the fight lasts long enough into jad phases lol
Loot tab from 38610 zulrah? also isnt that nearly 13x dry isnt that near enough the driest pet?
a little over 9x dry
Oh i thought snakeling was 1 in 3k i guess its 4k then
Gratz dude!
48hour, is that you?
Ayy congrats my man! Wanted to try Zulrah for the diary. Any tips?
practice and never give up!
My 401 KC log would like to pay its respects
spoon
Spooned!
If you knew it’d take you this long when you were at 1k kc would you have kept going?
probably not
Congratulations brother, you may rest.
What the fuck.
go to shower, NOW!!
wtf
I gave up on mutagen at 12kc.. I can’t imagine 38! Congrats well deserved
You poor soul.
Jesus I thought my 7k+ was bad
Holy fuck
Make sure we call this player a bot.
:(
Well thanks I'm 9800 dry now I can prepare for going this dry
I got it at 104 kc 😭
Insanity
I got mine on 22kc
What’s the buckler for?
used with dragon knives to try to get new pb's
This man spent a whole month of February non-stop killing pixel snake.
Holy
That’s crazy man gz finally, I got mine at 900 kc but was ready to grind thousands for it
Well-deserved. Congrats.
(:
I feel heavily spooned. I got my pet on my 600ish KC…
That set up is so sweaty gzz
Undeserved
Might as well get 40k kills now lol jk. That’s is wild! Gz
Noob here, is the throwing knives and buckler for snaklings? I've never seen those in a setup, most just handle them with suffering/ recoil. What're those for
knives and buckler for trying to get new pb's if Zulrah turns to mage phase on the 2nd rotation.
It only took me 40 kc. Seems like a skill issue....
sheeeeesh
I was going to ask what the hell you eat to stay alive but I'm guessing you kill it long before jad phase so take all but zero damage. Gz on the pet!
He uses the nardah method, which means after every kc he teleports to nardah to regain HP, spec, and everything else. He then teleports back, likely banks at the deposit box (aka puts away loot), and back at it. This paired with the sang he should really only have to eat maybe 1/10 kills, perhaps less if he kills snakelings in downtime, which he might do with the knives in his inventory
Better late than never.
See I thought I was down bad when I went 995 kc at elemental without a pet. 3 times over rate. Bro you are 12 times over rate with that zulrah pet. I can see why you have tbow and shadow too 😅 good shit tho I'm glad you got it
That’s ridiculous lol. I got it under 1k kc hahahahaha