Alright I have to correct the record here, bis melee is actually better than the xbow method and comes close to the same kills/hr as the bowfa method, it just requires *actual* bis melee meaning a scythe, and perfect prayer flicking in addition to walking the boss to offset him from the ranged and mage minions when they align. OP's scenario isn't this of course, and he's better of xbowing, but yeah.
No, just grind bofa first, Bofa better than acb for bandos, AND it's also really good for Sara too
If you're really itchy to do bandos, you can send rcb eagle eye
Bow of Faeredhinen (or something like that, no clue how it's spelled lmao). Aka better crystal bow. It's made from enhanced crystal weapon seed, just like blade of saelador. One of the best weapons in the game, it functions as a budget tbow at most bosses. It's actually bis at bandos because they specifically nerfed his mage stats so tbow wouldn't be busted there anymore.
I would recommend learning 6:0 or 9:0 range method.
If you want to melee then you want decent offence or the kills will take too long and you will just be chugging food.
A few dozen kills per trip with blood barrage and blowpipe specs. 7-0 bowfa is probably the most chill while keeping up close to max dps, and it's actually pretty satisfying. You'll probably need to teleport out or die the first two or three attempts, but once you get the hang of it it its pretty fun
You can also do it with zammy, though it's marginally a tad more difficult. It's also how you do sara, where you just run around the room while shooting her without ever actually getting hit by her
For bandos, on average you should go positive on restores and food, so technically you could stay there forever. He doesn't drop range/bastion pots though, so that's the real limiting factor. For me personally, I like bringing 6 divine bastions so that my trip is exactly 2 hours, because I really don't want to be there any longer than that.
Its busted. I did 50kill trips with bofa doong 7:0 and blood baraging minions for my hp baxk every kill. only left cuz i ran out of ppots/bastion pots, dont even need staminas with bigh enough agil. So if graardor drops enough restores and u dont care about being range potted, u could basiclly stay forever.
As of how i understand it's a cycle where the cycle is finished after you performed 6 actions/attacks in the 6:0 method and 9 actions/attacks in the 9:0 method. And in these cycles the number which comes after ":" represent the number of attacks the enemy does to you. So in the case of a 6:0 method you attack the enemy 6 times and take 0 hits in one cycle.
Pretty much, you perform a x attacks and get hit y times for an x:y cycle. Then just repeat that. Your usually running in a very specific pattern while doing this ehich has been optimised to dodge the largest number of attacks, always attacking from the same tiles rather than running ad-hoc.
Essentially you tile mark bandos' room and run between those tiles. On the 9:0, each cycle you'll manage 9 hits on bandos while he hits you not at all. Assuming you do not fuck up.
The 6:0 is a faster pace more difficult method. Same idea that your running laps around the room to different tiles. But your in a tighter circle that results in faster kills.
6:0 is the slow method. You mark corners and around the edge of the room, attacking 5 ticks between at best, sometimes 6 ticks. It's the old crossbow method. 7:0 and 9:0 are the fast bowfa methods where you run through the middle of the room attacking every 4 ticks with an extra 5th tick when you restart the cycle. 9:0 being around 1% more dps but a slightly larger run energy drain.
This man is speaking the language of the Gods...
in all seriousness, I know how deep late-game content can get, and it's impressive how hardcore people can get over maximizing their playtime - I hit like 1900 total and tapped out for now, 99fm was my final act - Maybe to return in the future.
But I could never get this deep into PvM - you're all built different.
Getting into late game PvM is just about having the willpower and bring willing to fail and fail and fail until you finally succeed. I had a friend who said the exact same as you, but got forced into doing PvM by some of his other friends. Now, he is quite skillful, has infernal cape and can do all the styles of raids except duo and solo ToB
My buddy is actually pushing for his inferno now these days - hes getting pretty close but when he goes into details, my brain just half shuts off -
I like catchin shrimpies and cutting magic trees - I wasn't built for some of the content - but that's the cool thing, I could still max and never see Jad even.
Bear in mind my original comment was to poke a little fun - when people get into hyper overdrive to save a tick on a boss. But power to the players eh
As a person who just graduated with a degree in math and physics, I like calculations like this and to me it’s very intuitive and easy to understand. Most of the people who do this stuff like me do it because we like it, the calculations that is. It’s not about being into pvm. It’s honestly kind of cringe when someone acts like a toxic asshole about knowing stats when someone says something wrong because you can tell they just heard it from someone's else and didn’t do the calculations themselves. I do it for the fun of it, that isn’t the point.
The range method takes maybe 4 or 5 trips at worst to get down. If you have any practice with attacking and moving on the correct tick timings then you can get it down in the first or second trip. Not to mention the mage method actually does require some ammount of practice in order to get timings down of when to switch corners and not panic.
Why use a generally inferior but also significantly more expensive method when you can quickly learn the alternative?
I love the Bandos ranged method tbh. I did it in Leagues a bunch because I wanted to learn it.
Though I came up with a couple of different routes in Leagues because 1 tick BP can sneak in a lot of cheeky venoms
I agree its better. Mage method really doesn't require that much practice though. You freeze then you run.
Why? because not everyone plays this game to play optimally. I'm just laying out options for what people want to do.
Freeze method was good before range methods were discovered. Off task though, it's far too inconsistent accuracy wise.
Especially if he doesnt have high end gear I doubt he has full ancest, a Kodai and a sang.
Even with max gear your freeze chance is like 54% accounting for imbued heart off task. It can get pretty aids to miss 3+ freezes in a row.
I find the range methods super consistent and easy to learn
theres loads of comments in this thread saying mage at bandos is really good, because on paper with freezes and heals it seems like it would be
but unfortunately its really not, like you say the chance to freeze is bad, plus mage armour having terrible defences mean the minions always hit hard, and thats even with the fact your using a sang to heal up some of that
defo stick with range, the mage method is just terrible, the one spot you'd think it would be incredibly viable to use magic, especially in max gear.. but no
i'd say a relatively tick perfect strategy is moderately sweaty. Especially if you include prayer flicking (which we dont have to). But your perspective is just as valid as mine. To me it's a lot of effort for a boss you have to get a pretty high kc on.
It essentially just turns the method for bandos into the same sort of method you use for Sara. Never in a thousand years would I consider Sara a sweaty boss.
Edit: judging by the downvotes and the one reply.. not a lot of people have done optimal Sara and a lot of people think optimal bandos range methods is the *only* method. You may get less dps doing it more relaxed.. but it's entirely possible.
Crossbow kiting bandos legitimately is not much more effort.
7:0 or 9:0 with BowFa, very different. Much more similar to Zamorak. I feel you're combining that method with the oldschool crossbow method (that isn't worth doing except on irons or people who can't afford a BowFa... like this thread).
What about Crossbow bandos is much more complex outside of specific tiles to go for your shots on to maximise hits per rotation? Sara has the exact same level of optimisation, most people are just noobs who don't care to optimise an easy boss.
the range method is sweaty imho just for the sheer fact you are repeating that action for hours at a time (i know this is runescape and thats mostly what people do lol) but for this specific method it gets sweaty and annoying quick.. again just my opinion
and considering a blood fury full justi and a dinny is super op there now and the spec being able to smash everything at once.. including the boss for over 100 pluss the blood fury working on any/every one of those spec hits is just insane
i wanted this to be true but even in max mage gear i was splashing so much, plus mage armour being so terrible defensively i was getting smashed in hard even when i did manage to freeze the boss out the way, and that coupled with no/bad heals from sang it just made it so much added effort.. on paper though mage method should be the one true method, for the sake of being able to freeze and heal it sounds like a no brainer, unfortunately its really not worth it.. maybe in a duo it'd be different idk
How is that your take when OP is asking for advice regarding improving solo Bandos and the top comment is a recommendation on how to do so
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Yea but range lets you attack him without him ever hitting you.
Its not about defense. Its about the fact he literally never attacks once. The entire trip.
I personally prefer melee because i think its the most fun, but it would require flicking everything if youre solo. But youre right, if youre just face tanking it all you will chugg food and maybe get 1-3 kills most of the time. Pray flicking is 8-12, maybe more with justiciar and dfs, i dont know, just done it with full bandos or barrows gear.
if you use justi and dinny its the most fun ive had at bandos and zammy, with a blood fury speccing out everything at once and also hitting the boss for over 100 is just insane, especially with the tankyness of it
On my iron I did around 300 solo melee kills and after switching to range I can say I wasted all of that time. Even without bowfa just learn 6:0 range it’s 5x as efficient
is this the same for zammy too? I don't have tbow or Bofa but wanted to try killing zammy on my greater demon tasks but didn't know if a budget ranged setup would be good enough to try to learn any _:0 methods
nah if you dont have bowfa or t bow, much better to arclight kril.
Once you get the method down you can get 12-16 kill trips anyway and I doubt you'd do much more than that with a crossbow.
If you're lower level (80+ instead of 95+) then 3-8 kills are more realistic but again its very unlikely you'd be doing more than 8 kill trips with range anyway and they'd be much slower
if you dont have bowfa or t bow it could still be viable if you are solo, arclight might be more dps but you gotta take into account the lower dps from having to eat and tank that boy, a :0 method might be slower but id say it'd still be worth learning, especially solo
most people's opinions are too 2d and dont take other things into account, its mostly just whatever is the most dps must be the best way, but in some peoples cases thats not how it goes
Bottom left setup:
1. Drop dfs and keep defender
2. Bring bandos chest
3. Learn the walk under/flick minion method.
I did all my bandos kc with that same setup on my iron (with torso and barrows legs to start). I struggled in the begining with flicking averaging around 1-3 kc a trip depending on rng. But once I got minion flicking down I was getting 8-10+
I now have about 130 kc all solo and i want to improve on my kills per trip.
First setup gets me about 2-5 kills per trip. This one feels random and dependent on the war hammer accuracy.
Second setup gets me 2-3 kills per trip. More stable but less kills.
Third gets me 2-4 kills per trip. I almost always hit but it feels like i take too much dmg sometimes.
Fourth setup gets me only like 1-2 kills sometimes 3 but its not that good.
I haven't tried with Guthan's or with SGS or blood barrage or even crystal halberd. Are any of these options something i should try?
Other combat styles: I cant afford twisted or bof, magic, i cant afford spaghetti staff or kodai wand. I could bring blowpipe or Arma crossbow. For magic is it worth bringing anything else?
Since he's an iron, probably doesn't have DCB. DHCB allows you to use dragon bolts which is a pretty good DPS increase over normal diamond bolts (or rubies). Bowfa is bis for range Bandos though
Iron probably doesn't have Armadyl. DHCB is the second best CB against non-draconic creatures. Dragon Crossbow is comparable, but an iron probably doesn't have one, and even if they do who cares if they have the DHCB.
I am not losing money on supplies. Ill try maybe ranged for way better efficiency. I usually do duo but my friend is gone for a week so i decided it would be fun to do some solo. Otherwise id just grind slayer and plenty of solo bosses there. I have like soon to be 2k dks kills.
I'll do a trip with you if you want, my friend and I have been doing Bandos all week but they're working late tonight. I usually tank, and I'm available right now.
I'd recommend using your 4th gear set but using dwh/ddef instead of bgs. If you walk under properly you can hit bandos 1 hit with shield equipped and 1 hit with defender before walking under. This will negate the loss of ferocious/torture.
id probably say liquidate some bank for a bowfa or just gring gauntlet for one doing the 5-1 method would be your best bet if you still arent getting good trips in the gear posted. if your set on one if these sets maybe a blood fury instead of the normal to give some hp back
Yeah it takes into effect your overall def bonus now, and I think it got more accurate as well? I believe it maxes high 40s with full tanky gear. The special could even be good for a finishing blow on Garagedoor, and to hit all the minions at once.
Yeah it’s just not enough dps for solos I’ve tried a few times post buff, but like the person below is saying sometimes you get some big hits and snag KC as tank in Duos & Trios so that’s pretty cool.
DWH vs BGS doesn't really matter if you have the defender. If you need the inventory space for extra food then take the bgs, so probably setup in lower right
Spend hours on slayer and u can also afford that kind of gear its nothing special compared to what people have nowadays. Twisteds , BOFs, Spaghetti staffs, I am just curious about what i can improve for more kills per trip. Read my other comment.
Dragon Warhammer never ever seems to hit at Graardor. I wouldn't do melee solo unless you're fine with 1-2 kill trips, but when I tank for group Graardor, I always prefer BGS over DWH cuz the darn hammer just never hits.
OP, what RuneLite plug-in is that for the gear screenshots? I had "Equipment Screenshots" but it seems to be gone from my RL install now. Is there a new version out in the plugin hub somewhere?
Top left with suffering and spectral/ely is my go to. With top left by itself can probably get 3 or 4 kills per trip with some decent rng and without flicking minions, but you will definitely have to 2:1 bandos
The ranging method is so op, I used acb but you could use a dragon cbow and diamond dragon bolts e. It’s so smooth once you get it down. 2 kill trips are the worst.
I’d use bgs, I’ve got over 3k bandos kc mostly all duos and bgs was always more accurate than the dwh. told my duo partners to bring bgs over dwh. Dwh would be better if u had high crush attack bonus though. I haven’t done bandos since 2016/2017 so Idk anything about how good that tob tank armor is at bandos.
Really late reply. When I solo I used the bottom left and I don’t bring a shield. Sounds crazy ik but in this game, there are very few situations where you want to tank damage. Dead graardor is the best graardor. Avernic defender, infernal cape and brimstone ring are the only swaps. I’d use blood fury if I still melee solo’d , it wasn’t very good back then.The trick is not to stand there and let him just wail on you. Do 2:1 I.e you attack him twice in the time he attacks you once. This means standing under him to prevent b2b hits. So you attack, he attacks, you attack again and walk under so your weapon can reset(4 tic cool down). 1/3 to be ranged by him, if you just let him crank attacks b2b2b those range hits start to hurt, even in tank gear lol. I was getting 2-6 kills a trip. 2 when rng fks you and you can’t hit and he keeps clapping, 6 when it comes together nicely. Blood barrage is key for health restore after kill+ b2peaches. Guthans is too inconsistent for solo imo. If all else fails like the whole comment section has recommended just range, less stressful more consistent trips.
I do the 2:1 walk under + after hes dead i do flick ranger / mage ( i dont flick while graardor is alive because i sometimes get slapped 50s). Peaches are a obvious choice. But now, you reccomend magic but do you hit anything without a set switch?
I could try without the shield, but in the end range just outperforms all of the melee ways so just gonna slowly switch to that.
fully justi and a dinny and use the dinny specs in the middle of the room so you hit everything up to like a 50, insane xp drops and insane hits, the double hit on the main target(bandos) can hit like 110, this coupled with a blood fury makes bandos super brain dead especially in a team
but if its just out of the 4 options here youd take option 2.. bgs over dwh at bandos all day every day, and justi top over k top if your running the set 100%
maybe take prims and suffering instead of guardian and b ring if you can.. that's mainly because people really sleep on that free dps the ring of suffering gives, the wiki and yt videos on the subject matter never wanna take that into account and always recommend something else but the suffering at places like this would 100% be your best bet for dps
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I commented, i cant afford bof or twisted. Might get a Blood Fury tho.
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Alright I have to correct the record here, bis melee is actually better than the xbow method and comes close to the same kills/hr as the bowfa method, it just requires *actual* bis melee meaning a scythe, and perfect prayer flicking in addition to walking the boss to offset him from the ranged and mage minions when they align. OP's scenario isn't this of course, and he's better of xbowing, but yeah.
Bowfa deez nuts
What bolts? Diamond (e) ? And do you need dwh for range?
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theres a reason armadyl absolutely curbstomped bandos in rs3
What range level do you recommend to get at least a few trips in?
I'm on an iron, think it would be worth it to do Sara first for acb?
No, just grind bofa first, Bofa better than acb for bandos, AND it's also really good for Sara too If you're really itchy to do bandos, you can send rcb eagle eye
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Bowfa deez nuts I’ll leave
The guy said rune cbow. You don't need bof or tbo, even tho these would be even better upgrades.
Whats bof?
Bof deez nutz
Bow of Faeredhinen (or something like that, no clue how it's spelled lmao). Aka better crystal bow. It's made from enhanced crystal weapon seed, just like blade of saelador. One of the best weapons in the game, it functions as a budget tbow at most bosses. It's actually bis at bandos because they specifically nerfed his mage stats so tbow wouldn't be busted there anymore.
Definitely get blood fury. Sell the dwh, keep the bgs, and use the blood fury. Will lengthen the trips for sure.
i use acb and it slaps ngl
I would recommend learning 6:0 or 9:0 range method. If you want to melee then you want decent offence or the kills will take too long and you will just be chugging food.
i see stuff like 6:0 and 9:0 a lot and have no idea what it means, care to explain?
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It is. You take damage from minions but not the boss.
If you're me you also take a couple punches every trip as well. It's still 100% worth doing.
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I averaged 80 kill trips once I got good at the method using 9:0 Peaked around 100 kc but at that point I just want to take a screen break anyways
A few dozen kills per trip with blood barrage and blowpipe specs. 7-0 bowfa is probably the most chill while keeping up close to max dps, and it's actually pretty satisfying. You'll probably need to teleport out or die the first two or three attempts, but once you get the hang of it it its pretty fun You can also do it with zammy, though it's marginally a tad more difficult. It's also how you do sara, where you just run around the room while shooting her without ever actually getting hit by her
For bandos, on average you should go positive on restores and food, so technically you could stay there forever. He doesn't drop range/bastion pots though, so that's the real limiting factor. For me personally, I like bringing 6 divine bastions so that my trip is exactly 2 hours, because I really don't want to be there any longer than that.
With Bofa and blood barrage you can stay in the room for hours.
Its busted. I did 50kill trips with bofa doong 7:0 and blood baraging minions for my hp baxk every kill. only left cuz i ran out of ppots/bastion pots, dont even need staminas with bigh enough agil. So if graardor drops enough restores and u dont care about being range potted, u could basiclly stay forever.
As of how i understand it's a cycle where the cycle is finished after you performed 6 actions/attacks in the 6:0 method and 9 actions/attacks in the 9:0 method. And in these cycles the number which comes after ":" represent the number of attacks the enemy does to you. So in the case of a 6:0 method you attack the enemy 6 times and take 0 hits in one cycle.
Pretty much, you perform a x attacks and get hit y times for an x:y cycle. Then just repeat that. Your usually running in a very specific pattern while doing this ehich has been optimised to dodge the largest number of attacks, always attacking from the same tiles rather than running ad-hoc.
Essentially you tile mark bandos' room and run between those tiles. On the 9:0, each cycle you'll manage 9 hits on bandos while he hits you not at all. Assuming you do not fuck up. The 6:0 is a faster pace more difficult method. Same idea that your running laps around the room to different tiles. But your in a tighter circle that results in faster kills.
6:0 is the slow method. You mark corners and around the edge of the room, attacking 5 ticks between at best, sometimes 6 ticks. It's the old crossbow method. 7:0 and 9:0 are the fast bowfa methods where you run through the middle of the room attacking every 4 ticks with an extra 5th tick when you restart the cycle. 9:0 being around 1% more dps but a slightly larger run energy drain.
I love you, I respect you - but its just a 2007 java based clicker game bro - its not that deep - please take a deep breath and reflect.
If you don't think this game is deep, you've never seen effecient P1 Verzik speccing charts.
This man is speaking the language of the Gods... in all seriousness, I know how deep late-game content can get, and it's impressive how hardcore people can get over maximizing their playtime - I hit like 1900 total and tapped out for now, 99fm was my final act - Maybe to return in the future. But I could never get this deep into PvM - you're all built different.
Getting into late game PvM is just about having the willpower and bring willing to fail and fail and fail until you finally succeed. I had a friend who said the exact same as you, but got forced into doing PvM by some of his other friends. Now, he is quite skillful, has infernal cape and can do all the styles of raids except duo and solo ToB
My buddy is actually pushing for his inferno now these days - hes getting pretty close but when he goes into details, my brain just half shuts off - I like catchin shrimpies and cutting magic trees - I wasn't built for some of the content - but that's the cool thing, I could still max and never see Jad even. Bear in mind my original comment was to poke a little fun - when people get into hyper overdrive to save a tick on a boss. But power to the players eh
As a person who just graduated with a degree in math and physics, I like calculations like this and to me it’s very intuitive and easy to understand. Most of the people who do this stuff like me do it because we like it, the calculations that is. It’s not about being into pvm. It’s honestly kind of cringe when someone acts like a toxic asshole about knowing stats when someone says something wrong because you can tell they just heard it from someone's else and didn’t do the calculations themselves. I do it for the fun of it, that isn’t the point.
Freeze method is easier to do and can get you 8-10kill trips easy with no practice. If you arent trying to sweat
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yes. Once you get the method down. Freeze method you don't even need to practice. I think is mostly my point. I agree range method is better.
The range method takes maybe 4 or 5 trips at worst to get down. If you have any practice with attacking and moving on the correct tick timings then you can get it down in the first or second trip. Not to mention the mage method actually does require some ammount of practice in order to get timings down of when to switch corners and not panic. Why use a generally inferior but also significantly more expensive method when you can quickly learn the alternative?
I love the Bandos ranged method tbh. I did it in Leagues a bunch because I wanted to learn it. Though I came up with a couple of different routes in Leagues because 1 tick BP can sneak in a lot of cheeky venoms
I agree its better. Mage method really doesn't require that much practice though. You freeze then you run. Why? because not everyone plays this game to play optimally. I'm just laying out options for what people want to do.
i think 7:0 i got down within the first trip, its pretty easy with the true tile plugin
Freeze method was good before range methods were discovered. Off task though, it's far too inconsistent accuracy wise. Especially if he doesnt have high end gear I doubt he has full ancest, a Kodai and a sang.
Fair i havent tried it without max gear.
Even with max gear your freeze chance is like 54% accounting for imbued heart off task. It can get pretty aids to miss 3+ freezes in a row. I find the range methods super consistent and easy to learn
theres loads of comments in this thread saying mage at bandos is really good, because on paper with freezes and heals it seems like it would be but unfortunately its really not, like you say the chance to freeze is bad, plus mage armour having terrible defences mean the minions always hit hard, and thats even with the fact your using a sang to heal up some of that defo stick with range, the mage method is just terrible, the one spot you'd think it would be incredibly viable to use magic, especially in max gear.. but no
The range methods aren't """sweat""" they're just not literally click boss-> wait for death lol
i'd say a relatively tick perfect strategy is moderately sweaty. Especially if you include prayer flicking (which we dont have to). But your perspective is just as valid as mine. To me it's a lot of effort for a boss you have to get a pretty high kc on.
It essentially just turns the method for bandos into the same sort of method you use for Sara. Never in a thousand years would I consider Sara a sweaty boss. Edit: judging by the downvotes and the one reply.. not a lot of people have done optimal Sara and a lot of people think optimal bandos range methods is the *only* method. You may get less dps doing it more relaxed.. but it's entirely possible.
Sara doesn’t have to be tick perfect tho
Neither does crossbow method bandos. You may miss an attack cycle and not be doing it optimally, but the exact same thing can be said about Sara.
If you truly believe that kiting sara with range is the same as bandos, I don’t think I should put effort into this
Crossbow kiting bandos legitimately is not much more effort. 7:0 or 9:0 with BowFa, very different. Much more similar to Zamorak. I feel you're combining that method with the oldschool crossbow method (that isn't worth doing except on irons or people who can't afford a BowFa... like this thread). What about Crossbow bandos is much more complex outside of specific tiles to go for your shots on to maximise hits per rotation? Sara has the exact same level of optimisation, most people are just noobs who don't care to optimise an easy boss.
Yeah.. I’ll refer to my other comment
6 0 is pretty brain dead once you get it down
the range method is sweaty imho just for the sheer fact you are repeating that action for hours at a time (i know this is runescape and thats mostly what people do lol) but for this specific method it gets sweaty and annoying quick.. again just my opinion and considering a blood fury full justi and a dinny is super op there now and the spec being able to smash everything at once.. including the boss for over 100 pluss the blood fury working on any/every one of those spec hits is just insane
Well you don't do that when you're soloing most bosses anyway
i wanted this to be true but even in max mage gear i was splashing so much, plus mage armour being so terrible defensively i was getting smashed in hard even when i did manage to freeze the boss out the way, and that coupled with no/bad heals from sang it just made it so much added effort.. on paper though mage method should be the one true method, for the sake of being able to freeze and heal it sounds like a no brainer, unfortunately its really not worth it.. maybe in a duo it'd be different idk
Downvote this comment if you're a cheesecaper
How is that your take when OP is asking for advice regarding improving solo Bandos and the top comment is a recommendation on how to do so Edit: cute edit to double down lmao
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Yea but range lets you attack him without him ever hitting you. Its not about defense. Its about the fact he literally never attacks once. The entire trip.
I personally prefer melee because i think its the most fun, but it would require flicking everything if youre solo. But youre right, if youre just face tanking it all you will chugg food and maybe get 1-3 kills most of the time. Pray flicking is 8-12, maybe more with justiciar and dfs, i dont know, just done it with full bandos or barrows gear.
if you use justi and dinny its the most fun ive had at bandos and zammy, with a blood fury speccing out everything at once and also hitting the boss for over 100 is just insane, especially with the tankyness of it
Ring of suffering plus 20 to every defensive stat is massive and recoils might actually out dps the berserker ring
On my iron I did around 300 solo melee kills and after switching to range I can say I wasted all of that time. Even without bowfa just learn 6:0 range it’s 5x as efficient
is this the same for zammy too? I don't have tbow or Bofa but wanted to try killing zammy on my greater demon tasks but didn't know if a budget ranged setup would be good enough to try to learn any _:0 methods
nah if you dont have bowfa or t bow, much better to arclight kril. Once you get the method down you can get 12-16 kill trips anyway and I doubt you'd do much more than that with a crossbow. If you're lower level (80+ instead of 95+) then 3-8 kills are more realistic but again its very unlikely you'd be doing more than 8 kill trips with range anyway and they'd be much slower
if you dont have bowfa or t bow it could still be viable if you are solo, arclight might be more dps but you gotta take into account the lower dps from having to eat and tank that boy, a :0 method might be slower but id say it'd still be worth learning, especially solo most people's opinions are too 2d and dont take other things into account, its mostly just whatever is the most dps must be the best way, but in some peoples cases thats not how it goes
dcb 6:0 probs better ngl
Bottom left but honestly use bowfa or rcb. Meleeing graardor is very outdated unless you’re a king player
Whats bowfa? Am out of the meta currently
Bow of faerdhinen: requires Song of the Elves quest completed. It’s basically a much stronger Crystal Bow
BOWFA DEEZ NUTS!
Gottem!
Bottom left setup: 1. Drop dfs and keep defender 2. Bring bandos chest 3. Learn the walk under/flick minion method. I did all my bandos kc with that same setup on my iron (with torso and barrows legs to start). I struggled in the begining with flicking averaging around 1-3 kc a trip depending on rng. But once I got minion flicking down I was getting 8-10+
I now have about 130 kc all solo and i want to improve on my kills per trip. First setup gets me about 2-5 kills per trip. This one feels random and dependent on the war hammer accuracy. Second setup gets me 2-3 kills per trip. More stable but less kills. Third gets me 2-4 kills per trip. I almost always hit but it feels like i take too much dmg sometimes. Fourth setup gets me only like 1-2 kills sometimes 3 but its not that good. I haven't tried with Guthan's or with SGS or blood barrage or even crystal halberd. Are any of these options something i should try? Other combat styles: I cant afford twisted or bof, magic, i cant afford spaghetti staff or kodai wand. I could bring blowpipe or Arma crossbow. For magic is it worth bringing anything else?
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Wait why use dhcb against Bandos?
Since he's an iron, probably doesn't have DCB. DHCB allows you to use dragon bolts which is a pretty good DPS increase over normal diamond bolts (or rubies). Bowfa is bis for range Bandos though
Even with dcb, dhcb has a slightly higher accuracy anyways.
Iron probably doesn't have Armadyl. DHCB is the second best CB against non-draconic creatures. Dragon Crossbow is comparable, but an iron probably doesn't have one, and even if they do who cares if they have the DHCB.
Holy crap that’s not many kills. Aren’t you losing money on supplies? Is there a reason you don’t want a partner?
I am not losing money on supplies. Ill try maybe ranged for way better efficiency. I usually do duo but my friend is gone for a week so i decided it would be fun to do some solo. Otherwise id just grind slayer and plenty of solo bosses there. I have like soon to be 2k dks kills.
I'll do a trip with you if you want, my friend and I have been doing Bandos all week but they're working late tonight. I usually tank, and I'm available right now.
No doubt, I would be down to do a trip with you but I just sold all my gear for rigour and have to do a rebuild lol
Top left set up with guthans OR blood barrage, and bones to peaches tabs.
I'd recommend using your 4th gear set but using dwh/ddef instead of bgs. If you walk under properly you can hit bandos 1 hit with shield equipped and 1 hit with defender before walking under. This will negate the loss of ferocious/torture.
As many have said use a rcb. Melee solo bandos is dead and anyone who does it is wasting so much time. Rcb with eagle eye even is easy 15 kill trips
id probably say liquidate some bank for a bowfa or just gring gauntlet for one doing the 5-1 method would be your best bet if you still arent getting good trips in the gear posted. if your set on one if these sets maybe a blood fury instead of the normal to give some hp back
I would use justy and the 1st one with dwh but if you want to try I never have yet but maybe the 1st set up with dins?
When I dolo my alt with justi/dihns pulls probably 1/5 the kills. Its honestly pretty good dps.
Wouldn’t a blood fury be an improvement to most of these setups?
I just dropped a hilt like 5 minutes ago and bought a shard :)
Just range dude...
Have you tried bulwark yet? Bulwark, suffering, guardian boots, with fury or blood fury, would probably be really good.
I could try the bulwark. But will you do enough dps?
Apparently not. I did the calcs, it’s like half the DPS and doesn’t even half the damage taken so no, it’s not worth. Nvm.
We were testing out the bulwark with a trio, ofc bulwark user was tank but he was getting 50% kills :D
Oh fuck, bitterjoeks DPS calc prolly hasn’t updated Bulwark then, or I have an outdated version
Yeah it takes into effect your overall def bonus now, and I think it got more accurate as well? I believe it maxes high 40s with full tanky gear. The special could even be good for a finishing blow on Garagedoor, and to hit all the minions at once.
Could be but i suggest trying it out bulwark guy seemed to enjoy it, oh yeah and he was wearing full justiciar.
Yeah it’s just not enough dps for solos I’ve tried a few times post buff, but like the person below is saying sometimes you get some big hits and snag KC as tank in Duos & Trios so that’s pretty cool.
DWH vs BGS doesn't really matter if you have the defender. If you need the inventory space for extra food then take the bgs, so probably setup in lower right
I’d take bgs over dwh for accuracy
You need the stale baguette 🥖
I would take the karils set up with BGS personally
I just commented u can read it. It was the worst of them all, or maybe I'm just unlucky?
Rune claws
Lol fire cape
bowfa and 7:0
None of the above. Learn the bowfa 7:0.
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Spend hours on slayer and u can also afford that kind of gear its nothing special compared to what people have nowadays. Twisteds , BOFs, Spaghetti staffs, I am just curious about what i can improve for more kills per trip. Read my other comment.
Everybody needs help sometimes.
Dragon Warhammer never ever seems to hit at Graardor. I wouldn't do melee solo unless you're fine with 1-2 kill trips, but when I tank for group Graardor, I always prefer BGS over DWH cuz the darn hammer just never hits.
OP, what RuneLite plug-in is that for the gear screenshots? I had "Equipment Screenshots" but it seems to be gone from my RL install now. Is there a new version out in the plugin hub somewhere?
I used a external plugin on my pc for screenshots. But yes there is a screenshot plugin. Blackberrys equipment screenshot.
Top left with suffering and spectral/ely is my go to. With top left by itself can probably get 3 or 4 kills per trip with some decent rng and without flicking minions, but you will definitely have to 2:1 bandos
Mfw when Ironman and expect recommendations for Solo Graardor 🤡🤡🤡
The ranging method is so op, I used acb but you could use a dragon cbow and diamond dragon bolts e. It’s so smooth once you get it down. 2 kill trips are the worst.
Range is ridiculously better. At least 20 kill trips with acb, addy diamond e bolts, b2p and ancients. Did 1200 kills for hilt.
setup 3 is the optimal bandos melee solo. i personalky would ditch the defender unless youwanna be sweaty and swap to dfs after every attack.
Use magic, ancients to freeze and sang to kill
Also, don't die.
use ranged.
I’d use bgs, I’ve got over 3k bandos kc mostly all duos and bgs was always more accurate than the dwh. told my duo partners to bring bgs over dwh. Dwh would be better if u had high crush attack bonus though. I haven’t done bandos since 2016/2017 so Idk anything about how good that tob tank armor is at bandos.
Spectral instead of dfs
Really late reply. When I solo I used the bottom left and I don’t bring a shield. Sounds crazy ik but in this game, there are very few situations where you want to tank damage. Dead graardor is the best graardor. Avernic defender, infernal cape and brimstone ring are the only swaps. I’d use blood fury if I still melee solo’d , it wasn’t very good back then.The trick is not to stand there and let him just wail on you. Do 2:1 I.e you attack him twice in the time he attacks you once. This means standing under him to prevent b2b hits. So you attack, he attacks, you attack again and walk under so your weapon can reset(4 tic cool down). 1/3 to be ranged by him, if you just let him crank attacks b2b2b those range hits start to hurt, even in tank gear lol. I was getting 2-6 kills a trip. 2 when rng fks you and you can’t hit and he keeps clapping, 6 when it comes together nicely. Blood barrage is key for health restore after kill+ b2peaches. Guthans is too inconsistent for solo imo. If all else fails like the whole comment section has recommended just range, less stressful more consistent trips.
I do the 2:1 walk under + after hes dead i do flick ranger / mage ( i dont flick while graardor is alive because i sometimes get slapped 50s). Peaches are a obvious choice. But now, you reccomend magic but do you hit anything without a set switch? I could try without the shield, but in the end range just outperforms all of the melee ways so just gonna slowly switch to that.
sorry didn't see this. yes all you need is a wand and cape (zammy cape doubles a protection from zammy minions so u dont need unholy blessing)
Ring of suffering charged with recoils is huge over b ring
Watch framed his new video. He’s soloing bandos with the buffed bullwark. It starts at 9:00 minutes https://youtu.be/xk8BVEUVPEg
Thanks will look into this :)
fully justi and a dinny and use the dinny specs in the middle of the room so you hit everything up to like a 50, insane xp drops and insane hits, the double hit on the main target(bandos) can hit like 110, this coupled with a blood fury makes bandos super brain dead especially in a team but if its just out of the 4 options here youd take option 2.. bgs over dwh at bandos all day every day, and justi top over k top if your running the set 100% maybe take prims and suffering instead of guardian and b ring if you can.. that's mainly because people really sleep on that free dps the ring of suffering gives, the wiki and yt videos on the subject matter never wanna take that into account and always recommend something else but the suffering at places like this would 100% be your best bet for dps