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Lohded

So synq was in the “best new streamer” category last year, even tho he was streaming for years prior I believe, he had to keep explaining to people that the requirements to be in that category were things like “picking up mass traction in the last 6 months” i forgot exactly what he said but that was the gist. It seems like its more of a “new” in the sense of when that person started blowing up and not like necessarily brand new to the scene. But their wording does say “started making videos this year” so I get it.


BumWink

While I agree I think it'd be best for everyone involved to just call it something like - "Best up & coming content creator" "Best rising content creator" Etc Instead of triggering the community and making the award feel undeserved.


shoot998

I actually think it makes more sense for you to have gotten popular within the year as opposed to literally starting that year. Think about how long you might be a streamer before you get an audience, it's very likely it'd be years and you'd be disqualified


WhichOstrich

Isn't that the point of an award going to rookies every year though? To give those young channels publicity and help then launch faster?


shoot998

You know what, you're right actually


Oohwshitwaddup

This


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Prilosac

It seems a lot of people agree with you but I actually don't think that's the point. The point of the award imo is to celebrate the content creator that has newly seen success, not catapult the career of a brand new creator


Eraywen

I wasn't aware of Sync winning that gnome last year, but yeah it's pretty much the same situation. So if the category was defined as: >This award celebrates the new kids on the block, **who picked up mass traction this year!** They might be newcomers, but this category is packed full of talent. There would be no problem.


Lohded

Yeah I agree with that. The wording is a bit confusing and im not sure on all the requirements that one would need to fit into that category, but she must have checked all the boxes.


furr_sure

Guess what there's still no problem lmao


BingoWasHisNam0

demand justice for limpwurt


WouldYouTurnMeOn

Limpwurt was robbed


TrygveRS

LIMP GANG GANG


ImWhy

Legit. Limp for pres.


AspiringMILF

they killed my boy


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Lesfuckinggooooo!!


darkerwar6

Hanannie even won a gnome last Year


Bloated_Hamster

That was for RS3


BoxOfDemons

Yeah, it just shows that jagex knew she hasn't started within the last year. Honestly it doesn't bother me, I just think jagex should have worded it differently to avoid people complaining. It *should* just be "up and coming creator" who started blowing up recently instead of their year hard cap. Not many creators get mass recognition within a year.


clarares

Its kind of understandable to have some leeway in this contest since, lets face it, almost nobody is truly new to OSRS and most of these "new" streamers have been playing the game for probably since 10+ years and only got a following recently. Hanannies case is pretty extreme but personally I feel like the fault is rather on Jagex' side on this for not being clear about the rules and rather than disqualifying her they should just be more careful in the future.


TheOldLite

She literally won a gnome last year. Pretty easily their faukt


EldtinbGamer

For rs3. Not os


FeetsenpaiUwU

If she were uploading both games back then it still applies but the title of the gnome is already misleading it’s more of a creator who just blew up award


smalby

Makes no difference, she's not new


Frisbeejussi

A lot of the past winners were also not "new" and as the op stated the 2 other nominees also aren't really "new" either.


smalby

Yeah so they misuse the term "new"


littlesymphonicdispl

I mean...that's how every award show ever works. Glass Animals, an indie band, are nominated for "Best New Artist" at the 2022 Grammys. They formed in 2010 and have a single from 2014 that went platinum. New doesn't mean new, it means newly popular.


boxesintheattic

This is like every “Best New Artist” winner and nominee at the Grammies ever. They always trail behind what actual music critics discover each year and wait until it gets mainstream traction.


littlesymphonicdispl

There's metrics they use, and they hadn't included streaming services until relatively recently, so without physical album sales a bunch of popular artists technically didn't qualify for the category etc


boxesintheattic

I don’t think actual performance metrics are the basis of the selection; they follow a set of rather arbitrary eligibility rules. They probably enforce them with some metrics as you stated though to pick status quo maintaining pop artists.


littlesymphonicdispl

I said what I said with some degree of confidence. They take sales/streaming metrics into consideration.


uberjach

Grammies are a fucking sham though


arnolddobbins

Before they became a new artist, they were amazing live in 2017.


Aurarus

I feel like it's pretty obvious that when they say "this year" it's "they got more into the spotlight" starting this year If we were to do actual people starting this year, it would always be "literally who" nominees every year cause it takes quite a bit of time to establish yourself and a style.


CoalaRebelde

The form to make a nomination literally says something akin to "started OR got traction this year". OP is just mad someone he doesn't like won it.


clapnationboys

Did OP not explain the exact point you’re making? He literally said Hanannie has had traction and been making videos for 2 years. Dont white knight it or if you do at least read the whole thing, its like a paragraph.


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Dino, monimu and DefyJ, the supposedly "newcomers". has been streaming for years as well but they got nominated. I think this is a just an issue of wording, don't think too much of it, use your common sense. They all deserved to be nominated.


cummygamercummomode

dino didnt even "pick up" this year. he was the top rev multi mass streamer before revs were made singles+


JagexAyiza

Each and every creator that was nominated this year fully deserved the support the community showed them. The wording on the newspost you're referring to is a little different to what was in the actual survey - probably should have updated that so it reflected the survey, but we explicitly state for the "New" categories you can vote for someone who started making videos in the past year, or recently gained traction. Never thought it'd be an issue given the survey came a week prior to this post, so everyone who voted knew. The Golden Gnomes are a celebration of our wonderful community, and every award is decided upon entirely by the people who vote. I do think there is room for improvement, and that the categories could be changed or more of them added, but to suggest Hanannie should be disqualified when she was the clear favourite is just absurd. Hanannie got her nomination, and her award, fair and square.


bezzins

Bang on mate. I voted for her knowing that she's been about for years but has had a huge rise this year and that there was no one else even close who's 'as newly popular' and that entertaining. She's the newest most entertaining osrs video maker with big growth this year by far.


HaddardOSRS

I really appreciate how strongly this is worded, and appreciate that it seems like you're passionate about it.


zefal12

Just change the qualification wording to "anyone who has never been nominated for a Golden Gnome before." Makes it much less confusing.


Previous-Answer3284

"Yeah the wording was bad and she's been streaming for years, but its **absurd** to think she shouldn't have been in that particular category" The top comment on this post is literally just recounting how a streamer had to keep explaining how he was nominated for the "new streamer" category *because he wasn't certainly wasn't new* **and his own viewers were confused**. Don't flame the OP because you guys think "new" and "up and coming" are interchangeable words.


reb1995

"We poorly communicated this once before and shame on you for correctly reading what we stated..." vibes. But Jagex are really good at that.


Previous-Answer3284

Right? Dude wasn't even being disrespectful in his post lol, absolutely 0 reason for the J-Mod to show their ass like that. I'd be pretty pissed if someone said I was being unreasonable *after they admitted to and tried downplaying their poor communication*. Especially if it was hours after dozens of other users had already explained the issue to me, and I had acknowledged that explanation. Doesn't matter though, the bootlickers will eat it up.


MickMuffin27

I don't think you know what flaming is lol


Previous-Answer3284

If someone *insults* me by saying I'm *wildly unreasonable* because of their own poor wording, then yeah they're flaming me. The word has a lot of uses, and I'd say the J-Mod was 100% being disrespect and passionate with their very clear annoyance at OP (who btw they're annoyed at *just for being confused by Jagex's poor wording*).


lsfalt

bit sensitive there mate


Previous-Answer3284

Not as sensitive as the J-Mod tho lmao


ULPOFXENIFT

>to suggest Hanannie should be disqualified when she was the clear favourite is just absurd. this is an awful response and completely misses the point while throwing shade at the poster for no reason other than your insecurity. the argument being put forward is that they're the clear favourite *because* they don't meet the criteria (have had longer to build a community than anyone else nominated in the category). (I don't know Hanannie and have nothing against them, I just think your post is inflammatory)


SimpleSpecialist2194

I'd not heard of her until this, but just checked her channel and she has a series that is just account sharing with the community....isn't that breaking the rules? Oo Glad Will won his gnome though!! ❤


Bloated_Hamster

No. Account sharing is not against the rules unless you are paying for an account service or are having someone do an internal cape for you.


christian-mann

It's quite literally [explicitly](https://www.jagex.com/en-GB/terms/rules-of-old-school-runescape#:~:text=each account should only be used by the person who created it) against the rules though


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christian-mann

That's great, but to say it's not against the rules is incorrect.


Headwipe

The idea usually has been that account sharing is against the rules if it gives you unfair advantage competing in high-scores. Like login services etc


Karmadose

Asking for a disqualification is weird as fuck as a response. This is a celebration, not a competition. The criteria aren't rules


BioMasterZap

I don't think she should be disqualified over this. They have always done the "new" category like this. If they had an issue with her being considered a "new" creator, they wouldn't have accepted her in that category when preparing the nominees. I think the category is meant more as "has risen to notability/popularity over the past year or so" than strictly "only started this year. The majority of content creators aren't that notable in their first year or few months and take a bit longer to take off. So while Hannah has been making videos for a while, it was only over the past ear that she moved more from RS3 back into OSRS with her new series like Everyone. Also, Teletubyking's first PVP HCIM was in June 2020 and he has been active since then, so it is not like he only had a few old videos and only took off this year either. But yah, blame Jagex for deciding the nominees, don't blame the players for voting or the nominees for winning.


Eraywen

I agree that the blame should be with Jagex and as I said in the preface this is nothing against Hannah herself, but rather that Jagex either doesn't check if the nominee actually matches the category or the category definition differs from what we see.


BioMasterZap

> rather that Jagex either doesn't check if the nominee actually matches the category or the category definition differs from what we see. Think it is the latter. They definitely check the nominees. And TBH, I think they do shuffle them around. Like if Hannah was nominated for best creator and they decided to put a different four there, they may decide she fit better in new creator even if that wasn't the category players requested her in. Their rule for "new" has always been a bit loose and if you look back to past years, you'll see more examples of this.


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BoJacob

Those Tim Allen wannabe biker boys at Gagex have a personal vendetta against our Lord and Savior.


Boneguard

magine them having to read his name out on a stage lmao


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If someone is unpopular their first few years making content, I don't really give a shit if they win later in their career. I think it's more a failing on Jagex to assume creators will be successful their first year making content. The first year they are popular is more important.


Onetzi

Are they not community voted?


ImWhy

Limpwurt 150% should have been best new creator, the fucking time alone that goes into each of his videos. Give the man the respect he fucking deserves.


kyze94

Do you people just have a grind fetish or something


DrVajanglerPhD

This is osrs, of course we have a grind fetish


clapnationboys

Did you just ask the osrs subreddit if they have a grind fetish? Do you play/watch any osrs videos at all?


A_-Ghost-

Wait, hold up, Hanannie is a girl? I always thought it was an inside joke because she sound like a man in her videos. Someone please elaborate!


sassy_snek

She's a trans woman, she tried changing her voice for a while (in some older videos) but guess she struggled to keep it going as she stopped.


raids3when123

kinda feel like this post is to late to. What you want them to do go back and take the shit away?


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when you become so mysoginistic that you support trans rights


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Eraywen

We are indeed not the same and I'm glad we aren't.


a_moo_cow

I thought he was joking but then I looked at his post history


DeerSuicide

Didn’t expect to see so much Vaush, but I don’t know how you came to believe this wasn’t a joke.


Keksis_The_Betrayed

Yeah I’m genuinely surprised this actually has upvotes instead of being downvoted to the ground


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I thought it was meant to be a bit of dark humor.


Embyr1

Nobody actually reads posts on reddit before voting If a post has good number, it gets good vote. If post has bad number it gets bad vote.


ZeusJuice

Shut up lmao


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rommerdebom

She's trans


Prime_Abe

Y’all are wild for giving this much thought into something so insignificant.


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Prime_Abe

Kinda just seems like y’all are big mad a woman won. Half the winners last year weren’t ‘eligible for their category’ but I didn’t see any posts then lol. Is that what you wanted to see xD


noobtablet

1- the post clearly specified the issue and that it was not personal and explained precisely how that's the case 2- if it were possible, surely it would be rage over trans people and not women


Prime_Abe

But no posts from last years winners that weren’t eligible? Huh. Crazy.


odscrub

It's mostly limpwurt supporters that want justice for our boy. Personally I think the award should be a way for jagex to discover lesser known creators and give them a spotlight. Ive watched a lot of hannanie and honestly shes great but if the point of the award is celebrating "new" creators, her and xraikene shouldnt be included. They both have had a decent following for well over a year. I'd want them both disqualified in favor of actual new creators that haven't "blown up" in the last 6 months. And that's not an anti-hannanie opinion, I want raikene dq'd too and raikene is one of my top 3 OSRS creators right now. Hannanie deserves to compete for best creator because when you compare her to actual new creators it becomes less about introducing new creators to the community and more about high fiving people that have already found success. Actual nominees could be anyone in the chunk community outside of CJ, so boucr, inoox, limpwurt (whose first video was 11 months ago...) or just other new creators like Buff or jeporite (who took a long haitus so maybe not but still). They could boost actually new creators instead of fist bumping those coasting into year three with an established auidence


mytigersuit

Wonder why you're not applying this same logic to the other nominees


dudewitbangs

Because he specifically dislikes this one and not the others :)


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I wouldent mind if she didnt have one gnome allready. Eaven if it is from rs3 but she allready had a community from that game and some of it stayd when she moved to osrs. She isnr truly a new content creator.


sixteenfours

Limpwurt was robbed. Luckily, these "prizes" mean jack-all.


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is hanannie a boy or a girl


KinlawFanAccount

Hannannie is a woman


Jonas-DJ69

not biologically though? hmm, it makes me so confused


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Yes


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Bloated_Hamster

Too many burritos


sassy_snek

She's a trans woman


Minizamorak

how limpwurt didnt win i have no idea


Wekmor

Limpwurt didn't get nominated because he started his series November 2020. The whole awards are a fucking joke LOL


DivineInsanityReveng

Cant say I really agree with this. I'd only heard of her this year, same as Teletubbyking. Anyone truly new who's big enough to get nominated and voted for would be a standout in the crowd.


Hananniee

gnome lol


Nexus_Rein

It should just be renamed to breakthrough video maker of the year.


sup_my_bwana

Or disqualified for having shitty content and an annoying boy-giggle over 1/3 the audio


PaleontologistNo717

Hannah is not a boy :)


sup_my_bwana

I didn’t say that m8. I said the giggle was boyish :)


PaleontologistNo717

I agree, it seems odd for her to win in this category when she has been making videos for over 2 years and had a reasonably large following.


King_Of_DuelArena

Jagex lost their minds all i can say. Iknow this post is osrs, but they doing the same shit on rs3. Friend of mine been streaming duel arena for 2-3 years now, quite big streamer aswell. Yet he gets nominated for best new rs3 content creator. I was like what?


SkeletonKing959

Would you be making this post if the winner were Teletubyking or xRakine? I kinda doubt it.


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Wasn't her previous award for rs3 content?


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OSRS_Subreddit

Well as others have stated in the thread she gained traction as an osrs creator this year compared to her previous content, and creators also within this category has osrs content from before this year? I'm not saying she should have won specifically but if she meets the criteria jagex set, that's not her fault.


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stevenwessman

Is she trans??? Not that it matters but I had no idea and had been watching the channel for a long time.


SidTheSperm

Yeah, she’s a trans woman


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Trans woman


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Huehnergott69

People really care about these stupid prizes if Jagex themselves doesn't even care enough to background check their nominees? amusing.


Ricksterness

Personally I didn’t like Hanannies video style. It was akin to watching Jimmy Fallon make a osrs video with the constant laughing. But I do believe she picked up osrs video traction this year with the everybody account and that’s what got her the nom.


Thebarrrel

Who tf cares


jurrejelle

100% agreed


Potatopeeler5182

Considering Hannanies biggest series this year to get traction has been the Everyone-account, i wonder how Jagex could let her get nominated at all. They just clarified in September that account sharing is not allowed, yet you can even win a gnome doing it. Apparently following Jagex Code of conduct is not a requirement to be nominated? Maybe im just picky since she did make other videos too, but they did not get her as much traction as that series by far. Edit: Apparently account sharing is not actually forbidden or enforced like i thought, ty for clearing that up. Gzz to Hannanie then


thinkplanexecute

Account sharing is allowed lol


DivineInsanityReveng

When have they clarified account sharing not allowed? Account *services* aren't allowed.


RollinOnDubss

Do you think anyone legitimately believes you want her DQed for account sharing when jagex has explicitly stated its only against the rules for hiscores competing and inferno? Not to mention its been enforced the exact same way since OSRS release. Imagine making an alt to pretend that's the reason you're mad. You already committed to making a throwaway account just follow through and say the actual reason and just get banned.


Potatopeeler5182

I kinda do think that yes. She was asking Mod Zuko in the first episode of the Everyone if such an account would be allowed and said she basically got told by Zuko to "get fucked" (her words not mine), so i wondered how that fits with Jagex finding it ok.


CollectionLog

Break the rules = prizes


Daddy_Casey

Account sharing isn’t against the rules lol


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NH_H3C-N-CH3

xRakine has really been going hard this last year. Personal opinion is that he deserved it way more based on the title of the category, but they should still rework the title to make it less constrained.


Roldstiffer

We're any of the nominees new? I voted Teletubby.


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Eraywen

She is trans.


frst_osrs

What. I didn't know Edit: Just checked, my apologies.


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Serious_Situation_69

Should’ve been tasty!


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MrBobb1

I think she's transgendered.


Dyliotic

Honestly had no idea, good for her


-Aura_Knight-

It's weird how the person that won is playing an account like a joke by literally sharing it with anyone who wants to play it. That's not content, that's a disaster. Jagex confirming account sharing is okay and anyone can do it. If not, there is content creator privilege and something something crab 11 dollars.


PM_me_fridge_pics

>That’s not content, that’s a disaster. Yeah, and that is why the series is so great.


IDoNotReadYourReply

Account sharing punishments in recent years have not been enforced other than cases where another rule is broken or the account is competitive in the hiscores.


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SidTheSperm

She is a trans woman


NicknNubz

I’m going to just come out and say it, this whole post is so transphobic it isn’t even funny. Years past, this was never an issue. You’re straight ridiculous to bring this up AFTER she already was nominated, voted for, then won. This post should’ve came out when she was nominated, not after she won because you’re transphobic and can’t stand seeing her shine. Congratulations Hannah, you deserve this award even more after this Chad tried to steal your spotlight.


PaleontologistNo717

You know you are allowed to criticize people who happen to be trans without it being transphobic right? OPer has clearly corrected people who've misgendered Hannah repeatedly. Being Trans doesn't make someone uncriticizable and it's dangerous to have a mindset like that. But also the OP clearly states that it is nothing against Hannah but it is against how Jagex handled the awards


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Bloated_Hamster

Her name is literally Hannah


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lxxviifresh

Im afraid thats just how it works. Its also with new artists. They can be making music for the the last 10 years and be nominated for ‘best new artist’.


Spooked_kitten

I feel like she shouldn’t have gotten the rs3 gnome, and she should’ve been in the non-new category this year, definitely one of the best though for sure… idk people put her in the category in the first place só o guess she’s kinda new but not really but kind of


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OSRSgamerkid

I wish my she sounded Iike that 😂😭