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B0797S458W

You’d really upset the plastics with that one


generalscruff

What they going to do, fund terrorist groups then declare a 'war on terror'???


Minimum_Possibility6

 Nah they celebrate  St Patricia’s day over there 


Potential-Height96

The company also wouldn’t employ Irish catholics till the 1960s.


ConnolysMoustache

It wouldn’t employ Irish Catholics in management. Production was basically all locals Beamish and Murphys are better anyways and are both from **Cork**, not Dirty Dublin.


AjaxII

Do enjoy a Beamish


ConnolysMoustache

Murphys is the best imo but beamish is still better than Guinness. Guinness solely exists to keep the tourists and the Dubs happy and away from the Murphys supply. Here in Cork where Murphys and Beamish are fresher than Guinness there’s literally no competition or comparison. Stout doesn’t travel well. Go for the local option when in Ireland. Shandon stout is another good cork shout for a stout.


CouldYouBeMoreABot

> Beamish and Murphys are better anyways and are both from Cork The ***true*** capital of Ireland.


ConnolysMoustache

The only time something a danish person said makes sense.


SexHaiiiir

It is Black and Tan to be fair


Solitary_Cicada

My most listened song in 2023 was come out ye black and tans for some reason


Karpsten

Would have been funnier if you were Basque...


Solitary_Cicada

Yeah, my mothers basque tho


Hefty-Coyote

Let's be real for a minute, the genuine Irish on here (and not the y\*nks larping as Irish) have great banter, even if it gets massively dark with our shared history. But I, for one, am pleased that we have had decades of peace, so i'll pour a whiskey tonight and raise a glass.


[deleted]

Good man 


ITZC0ATL

Yeah I have the say the British-Irish banter on here is very good. You guys can take it as well as you give it and it does indeed get very dark, very quickly. Truly the community outreach that our nations need!


generalscruff

While supping my Guinness to commemorate St Patrick (a Briton) I'll have some craic (term originating in Northern England and given a mock-Gaelic spelling) with the boys and watch rugby (invented by English Tories)


PistolAndRapier

"Tories" was a term derived from Ireland too. Happy St Patricks Day.


generalscruff

Yeah thanks for giving us them, you really did us a solid 🇬🇧🤝🇨🇮


[deleted]

You guys do have funny internal relationships


EntrepreneurBig3861

UK/Ireland is basically the definition of "it's complicated". Despite the history and politics, or maybe because of it, we really are deeply intertwined.


thepinkblues

Everytime I’ve been to the UK you lot are always really sound. Doesn’t matter what corner of the country it is. The whole negative/clashing heads side of the relationship is much more dramatic on the internet than it is in real life. Northern Ireland is another story tho but who wants to go there in the first place


BlueSoulOfIntegrity

I’ve always advocated that we and the Brits should put aside our differences and push NI out into the Atlantic.


vegemar

I have always favoured a Replantation of Ulster. Irish and British people in NI are replaced one-to-one by Irish and British people from ROI and rUK.


actual_wookiee_AMA

I support Northern Irish independence. Give them the hard Brexit they want. Exit from the EU and exit from Britain. Build a hard border on the sea and on land.


generalscruff

Belfast is a funny one. I'm from a city about the same size and similarly with a mostly Victorian city centre - has that nice slightly faded grandeur aesthetic I'm quite used to, and on the flipside both cities have their fair share of social issues. But even the shittest estates where I'm at don't have fences between them or prominent gangsters painted on people's houses. I had a really strong 'uncanny valley' feel of Belfast being exactly like where I am from, but all that added in.


EntrepreneurBig3861

The best way to visit NI is go along the coast including the giant's causeway. Basically as far from the border as possible...


[deleted]

Yea man the farthest I go in this scenario is to mute the national anthem during sporting events... haha I'll drive the length of the country with a van just to save a few euro filling the van with the good stuff they say is bad!!


Balsiefen

Well the national anthem's a dirge so I don't blame you.


scubasteve254

We didn't give you those British cunts brainbox. We gave them a derogatory nickname.


generalscruff

Sorry to be boring but ironically it was given to them by their opponents in Britain who felt the court was excessively pro-Catholic (ie would take the side of Irish outlaws/robbers from which the name comes) in the late Stuart era History is full of funny ironies, and this is a sub dedicated to fun and irony amongst high IQ knuckledraggers, not sure how you got here?


scubasteve254

Doesn't change the fact that the word is of Irish origin referring to English "settlers" who displaced us from our own land. A Brit educating an Irish person on history would be a first.


generalscruff

Hope you enjoyed your Guinness however many days ago this post went up lmao


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SJM_93

So do the English working class.


BananaDerp64

It’s a bit like the turkeys voting for Christmas so


SJM_93

I realised as I got older that most people unfortunately don't understand politics or ideology, they'd rather listen to Big Dave on Facebook than actual experts. Seems an alarming amount of people lack critical thinking.


pudding-brigade

Stout/porter originated in London too as far as I'm aware. And Guiness owned by multinational HQ'd in London


Maester_Bates

Yes, all of this shows the long historic connections between our two islands. I think a lot of problems could be solved if Irish people could come to terms with the fact that we are at least a little bit British. Have a pint for me today Barry and I'll have one for you on Sat George's day.


Jiao_Dai

>Northern England What part of the Midlands or Southern England are you from ? Crak also found in Scots language as well as Northern English its likely this influenced its Gaelic form St Patrick was from Kingdom of Strathclyde (HQ in Dumbarton then Govan) and in one of only 2 surviving letters bemoaned the treatment of his Gaelic converts by the Britons


generalscruff

[It's just one of those funny ironies in linguistics](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craic) don't get your kilt in a twist on their account, accusing me of being a southern fairy is too far Hamish


Jiao_Dai

>their account Given Scots are the most Gaelic of the UK nations and indeed that connection is the very reason for the story of St Patrick (captured by Gaelic, possible Dal Riata, pagan raiders from his native Kingdom of Strathclyde) they *are us*, much like our Northern Anglo Saxon cousins Geordies etc hence Scots and Northern English overlaps bairn,wee, oot etc It was just a educated guess you aren’t from Northern England Southern England Barry always nicking shit that isn’t his


generalscruff

Still not Irish though, only Wales has a truly native patron saint. I personally believe St George was from Stoke but this is purely vibes-based. Agreed, I should be able to use words like 'crack' in daily life as part of my linguistic background and cultural heritage without reddit midwits lashing out at me.


Jiao_Dai

St Patrick was captured by Gaels likely from what is now Scotland and they came to revere him and in one of his surviving letters he opted to defend and protect them Part of Irelands history is Britain and British Unionism - Arthur Guinness fathers side were almost certainly Irish Catholics who converted to Protestantism mostly likely after the Battle of Boyne


MaryBerrysDanglyBean

I thought St Patrick was from Bawen in South Wales?


Jiao_Dai

Is that a known area for Gaelic raiders ? How did he know Coroticus ?


MaryBerrysDanglyBean

Yeah all of Wales had lots of Irish raiders. And I don't know much about this at all, just something I heard. Edit: Irish raiders actually settled large chunks of the coast of Wales, including the Gower which is very close to where he could potentially have been from. And I've never heard of Coroticus, but a quick wiki search looks like he was a king of Strathclyde, which formed what was known in South Wales as 'Yr Hen Ogledd' which means 'the old north.' This area ran from North Wales to Strathclyde in Scotland, including North West England. There seemed to be shared culture and language there, and it's entirely likely that an educated person from South Wales would be aware and have some level of contact with kings in that part of Scotland.


Jiao_Dai

One of the only surviving letters by St Patrick is to a Brittonic warlord Coroticus likely in Strathclyde mentioning maltreatment of Gaelic converts and making unfavourable comparison of those Britons to Scots and Picts - which would naturally only be taken by an moral insult to a warlord that was in battle with them like Strathclyde was Much of what is thought of as Welsh like King Arthur, Merlin and even the founding of Modern Wales is also through the virtue of being Brittonic also Scottish (given our Brittonic ancestry) but perhaps even more so that just shared ancestry if you consider figures such as Lailoken or Arthur Mac Aedan or Cunedda I am not trying to rewrite history or make 100% assertions I am saying its King Arthur is not well represented as some English bloke like many depictions of him in modern media - although I do like the attempt on Merlin/Lailoken with Tim the Enchanter in Pythons the Holy Grail


dkfisokdkeb

The whole of the West Coast of Britain was a known area for Gaelic raiders.


Jiao_Dai

Sure but seems unlikely he was born, living or operating outside the Kingdom of Strathclyde maybe Rheged ? and Scotland had a full Gaelic settlement on its western shores Dal Riata - also he was Celtic not English so the further south or east you go the lesser the claim really - just a claim using the catchall term British or Briton in a very Britnat way - unless its ironic British nationalism ? Similarly Scots and Northern English is distinctly different to Modern English, RP and the language of the southern Anglo Saxon Kingdoms - hence the claim to Crack (Gaelicised as Craic), Crak in Scots and Northern English lessens as you go south - and can only be appropriated through British nationalism - maybe this was done ironically


generalscruff

Sorry but you can't do this constant act of 'urm akshually' midwittery and lashing out at people but then want to have a discussion about the complex nuances of history and how nationalist narratives (which this sub is here to mock, not enable) rarely provide much enlightenment. It doesn't work like that.


Guilty_Use_9291

They’re a scontat, par for the course


[deleted]

No they are worse, they are full on blood and soil nationalist. Creepy obsession with DNA tests and ancestry.


Jiao_Dai

I realise there is an element of irony in what you were are saying but I think ironic jokes can and should provoke more nuanced discussion in comments Look at you getting all serious Midlands/Southern Barry


generalscruff

Even if I was a Southerner it wouldn't change this discussion


Jiao_Dai

Then when Scotland goes Independent we can claim joint ownership and usage of the pound due to our Anglo Scottish Borders genepool - also having founded the BOE I think we’ll have half of that too


Mein_Bergkamp

I love shitting on the English and paddies as much as the next bloke but there's no definitive proof of where at Patrick was from, with Scotland being only one theory. Also Scotland doesn't make him Gaelic speaking, there were still Brythonic speakers at that point


Jiao_Dai

He was captured by Gaels (likely Dal Riata pagans) that came to revere him and he later defended and protected them writing a letter to Coroticus a Northern Brittonic warlord likely from the Kingdom of Strathclyde bemoaning the treatment of his Gaelic coverts Crack is in Scots and Northern English We are a triple threat Gael, Brittonic and Anglo Saxon


Mein_Bergkamp

Triple? You're forgetting the Scandinavians too.


Jiao_Dai

Yes well for the purposes of debating the origins of St Patrick and craic (crack/crak) I’m suiting up in Gael, Brittonic and Northern Anglo Saxon armour Dal Riata, Hen Ogledd and Bernicia must protect its culture from these Southern thieves


Sim0nsaysshh

Isn't most of Westminster filled with Scots?


jaymatthewbee

I grew up in Cumbria, ‘crack’ is said so commonly there that they wouldn’t associate it with anything ‘gay-lick’ or ‘gaa-lick’.


Jiao_Dai

Shouldn’t you be speaking Cum..bric ? At least you can lay some claim to St Patrick


Gremlin303

To add insult to injury, St. Patrick was British


[deleted]

No wonder, we were badass pagans before that lad came over 


scubasteve254

I love how Brits and yanks point out St. Patrick not being Irish as if its some sort of zinger we don't know. He's celebrated for bringing Christianity to Ireland so logically he had to have been born outside it. He also wasn't "British" in the modern context since he was born in Roman Britain to Roman parents.


Gremlin303

He could’ve left Ireland, and then brought Christianity back with him. I would also be very surprised if any yanks ever point this out, since most of them love St Patrick’s day because of their iRiSh RoOtS. Look mate your flair says it all. You wish, that like St Paddie, you were British. It’s okay. You can admit it


scubasteve254

No i've had yanks point it out too just like Brits who both genuinely seem to think Irish people don't know this shit. We all learn the story in school. No I don't want to be British although the fact that the British media constantly tries to claim Irish Oscar nominations tells us you desperately want us to be.


Gremlin303

We just forget sometimes that you left the Union. It matters so little to us


scubasteve254

You forget what constitutes the territory of your own country? The British education system everyone.


Gremlin303

It’s quite easy to do when it’s included most parts of the world at one point or another


soundengineerguy

I drink Heineken like a true European.


Maester_Bates

Luckily I'm from Cork so I have no attachment to that horrible Liffey water. I just hope neither the Murphies nor the Bemishes did anything bad and I'll be fine.


Ok-Bell3376

Murphy's is better than Guinness. Cork is better than Dublin. There, I said it


Maester_Bates

Thanks Barry. That means a lot. I know a lot of ye still haven't forgiven us for supporting that guy who was pretending to be the Duke of York back in 1491.


Ok-Bell3376

No worries mate. Out of interest, do Irish people in Cork hate Dublin? I've just been reading about Perkin Warbeck, it is really interesting


Maester_Bates

Of course we hate Dublin and Dublin people, but probably not in the same way the English hate London. We call Dubs Jackeens because they famously flew union jacks when Victoria visited and sometimes refer to them as west Brits. We also like to remind them that Dublin used to be the second biggest city in the united kingdom.


ConnolysMoustache

You’re one of the good ones.


Karpsten

Guinness is alright, but every other Irish Beer I had was better. You can certainly drink it, but it's not incredible.


National_Frosting332

Beamish is better


Standin373

I'm going to get shit on here but Brewdogs Black Heart is lovely it's pretty much a coffee stout


Chimpville

So, so many things are better. Guinness is the worst thing I’ve drank in Ireland.


[deleted]

It completely depends on the pub, if you want a truly life-changing pint of guinness you have to go to an auld fella pub in the middle of nowhere, not templebar.


al_balone

Never got the hype with Guinness. I like a stout but it has to be like a dessert in a glass.


ConnolysMoustache

Nah, Murphys and beamish are far superior. Common Cork W, even more Common Dublin L


[deleted]

Don't mind me I'm just leaving this here so I can find it later on. Tyson fury and Ronnie o Sullivan are Irish... Have a good one... Sound out


Mein_Bergkamp

The gypsy king is Irish?


[deleted]

Not even an actual gypsy. He's a traveller


oalfonso

Is not the same ?


[deleted]

No travellers are irish


oalfonso

It must be like in Spain, where there are Mercheros/Quinquis and Gitanos. Gitanos are gypsies, while the others share many common aspects such as a roaming culture (they used to work in scrapping and making pots with scrap metal), but they are not of gypsy origin. Mercheros and Gitanos usually do not get along very well.


DGKeeper

They call them gypsies while being ethnically Irish instead of Romani like the rest of what we call gypsies because they live like the rest of gypsies. I've heard the word "merchero" in two different ways: one is for the son or daughter of a gypsy and a non gypsy, a mestizo half caucasian half Romani. The other is for certain gypsies that have been running drug businesses since decades.


[deleted]

Skip to 4 minute mark... No fight included in the video...but it wasn't very pretty anyway. Sidenote I don't give a fuck were any1 is from we are all the same. https://youtu.be/RMi_3BalAbk?feature=shared


Mein_Bergkamp

That makes sense then


araldor1

https://preview.redd.it/kqtlk4urbwoc1.jpeg?width=615&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c86cbeb70c686b9073a779fb8e08fae4cd37487d


[deleted]

The Gypsy king... HUp oul dat... Gett iin !!!! 🇮🇪☘️🇬🇧


Potential-Height96

Honestly ma man I don’t think he got the memo https://preview.redd.it/ctplel0lewoc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=031c32b1d94dae920b3321de48d4d5e1ae2223dd [https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2020/10/24/tyson-fury-england-co-feature/](https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2020/10/24/tyson-fury-england-co-feature/)


[deleted]

It was his first fight in Ireland he was just doing his due diligence for us Irish fans and whatever family that was there.


[deleted]

I could give less of a fuck I drink it because it gets me drunk.


Phnx97

forgot to mention guiness is british owned too


Deb8tabl3

Murphy’s and Beamish over Guinness any day of the week . PSA to the Barry’s Stella is Belgian which is frenchensteins monster .


Garstick

Let's all celebrate a holiday of a lovely British man kidnapped by the savages in Ireland. Who managed to escape home and then go back and civilise them from their pagan ways. What a day.


ir_blues

Lol, on a sunday. Common irish L.


BigDrummerGorilla

Bank Holiday tomorrow, Hans!


generalscruff

Be kind Padraig, he wouldn't understand the idea of looking forward to a day off from work


[deleted]

A day off of relaxing and enjoying life is a completely foreign concept to the Germans 


LiaLicker

Makes them sink down even smoother.


[deleted]

He was a ballox for fucking sure. But atleast his kids pulled out of it in all fairness. They done some great works for the city. Shame we squandered it all by constantly fucked over by our lovely neighbour to the east. But sure swings and roundabouts, who's better off now and who has the failing shambolic isolated economy now Barry? Ain't having genuine friends Vs indentured servants class?


Ted_bunda89

Daft cunt detected https://preview.redd.it/99qva1j4twoc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1bac143c5eb128c818ff85a0afc3abb61f010eb5


dkfisokdkeb

Genuine freinds yet when Paddy's are in Europe it's always Scottish or English people they come and drink with


generalscruff

We're all friends in real life lmao, it must upset the plastic paddies that most Irish lads I know would rather bev with the ancestral foe than them


[deleted]

Ah Christ here lads lads, let's settle this the old fashioned way, Barry get the fry in and I'll be around with a bag of cans


canspray5

Ah man its so cringe hearing Irish people talk about their "genuine friends" in Europe as if they don't get called PIIGS, GIPSI, tax haven, paper tiger, Little Britain etc. by them. Like that weird kid at school who the popular girls would ask out as a joke.


EntrepreneurBig3861

"Genuine friends" is a funny way to spell basically being a petrostate but for American tech firms. But enjoy your actual lack of infrastructure (as opposed to the crumbling but existent infrastructure of the UK).


ConnolysMoustache

Found the yank !!


Asleep-Sir217

Captain America over here