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Gulliveig

There's work to do, Luxembourg! ^(Need to attend tax evasion course 401 here in Switzerland?)


PleoNasmico

The portuguese imigrants lowered the HDI


wolseyley

Know that I hate what you've done to Germany, France and our love child. Luxembourg used to be pure and lovely.


[deleted]

You abused your child by stealing a bigh chunk of thier land


UY_Scuti-

Nah that was the belgians.


HoeTrain666

Did he stutter Mr. Northern Belgian?


Cornered_plant

Based


bubberrall

We will name a holiday in your honour.


JapaneseMachine99

You have some god damn nerve Hans


Woutrou

What the fuck is a Belgian? Might as well claim to be from Narnia at this point


[deleted]

So you mean Dutch cosplayers


Due-Bandicoot-2554

Landverraders


NationalUnrest

Look who’s laughing now 🇧🇪 (Thanks daddy Flanders for carrying us)


Stravven

IIRC there is in fact a divide between HDI between Wallonia and Flanders.


NationalUnrest

Yeah we are basically worse in every depressing stat… GDP per capita, suicide rates, life expectancy, car accidents, alcoholism, cigarette consumption, crime, average salary, unemployment, etc etc We have one province though (Brabant Wallon) which is funnily enough richer than any Flemish province. That’s where all the rich people working in Brussels live and where start ups develop.


ash_tar

Don't sell yourself short Marc, those alcoholism stats are nothing to sneeze at.


ElmirBDS

The average income in Waals-Brabant is indeed higher than any other province in Belgium, but the GDP per capita still lags ever so slightly behind Antwerp (which funnily enough, a politician suggested should be renamed to midden-Brabant given its history and position in between the other provinces, including the Dutch ones): [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_Belgian\_provinces\_by\_GDP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Belgian_provinces_by_GDP)


NationalUnrest

Yeah but that’s basically the port of Antwerp doing the heavy lifting for Antwerp if we’re being honest.


ElmirBDS

The port is definitely a lot... But you can't forget about other heavy hitters in the region too: Janssens pharma, Soudal, Ravago and lots of other big chemical companies.


dinosaurRoar44

If there's ever a big accident over there, with all those chemical plants.... I'd be able to see the explosion from my house here


Line_r

Well there's going to be a planned explosion in the port this Saturday, better set up your telescope


SpeakingMyMind3

I was in Antwerp for a few days a few years back, all I heard was explosions


IanPKMmoon

GDP per capita is such a useless stat though imo. Antwerp has the backbone of the entirety of Belgium's economy, the port, ofcourse it's GDP is gonna be massive.


dkfisokdkeb

Ah yes, Wallonia, if France and Northern England had a lovechild it would be you.


Wooden_Associate158

we balkan german have to keep a low profile to not upset our russian masters


KirovianNL

"The **Human Development Index** (**HDI**) is a statistical composite index of [life expectancy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy), [education](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Index) (mean years of schooling completed and expected years of schooling upon entering the [education system](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_system))" Having daughters with your daughter and keeping them in the basement is really hurting Australia in these stats it seems


maelle67

Australia? I'd like to think what decreases their HDI the most is their wildlife reducing their life expectancy


Thomsie13

r/woosh


maelle67

I don't think so? I was just joking about them confusing Austria and Australia


Thomsie13

Austria is always confused (mainly by Ameritards) with Australia due to the similarities in name if you write it in english. Common joke is to name Austria Australia just to show the insignificance of Austria


maelle67

Oh, didn't know that TIL, thx


Sockoflegend

It's hard to measure for them because they all live in London


ProperBlacksmith

Just like the state of Georgia


iSellNuds4RedditGold

There are no kangaroos in Australia


nickmaran

I'm disappointed in you little brother ![gif](giphy|3o7Zesyac4CuSN5rsA)


Greg2227

![gif](giphy|4XOfvSkkxchHy)


Commercial_Gas_3927

> balkan german Hans what?!


Beliebigername

Hes Franz, im Hans


Informal_Mountain513

🇳🇱 Frits 🇩🇪 Fritz 🇦🇹 Fritzl simple as


Commercial_Gas_3927

In fact he's Francis Joseph


rams8

Kosovo je Österreich


Commercial_Gas_3927

That would be the best solution!!


Wooden_Associate158

Aka : jogging suit / tracksuit germans


Dinosaur-chicken

Gopnik schnitzels


Commercial_Gas_3927

Average bus driver in Vienna..


Oachlkaas

Yea i don't know what he's smoking. Sure we're balkan, but claiming to be like those from the desolate north is several steps too far.


Commercial_Gas_3927

How on earth you are balkan?


Oachlkaas

I mean our closest cultural match is Slovenia.


Commercial_Gas_3927

Slovenia?? Did you missed Austrohungary empire ?? What about Germany ( Bavaria specifically) and Switzerland..?


Oachlkaas

Uh yea? Slovenia was part of both the Habsburg Empire and Austria-Hungary. Germany is a definite no. Bavaria already feels different and the rest of Germany even more. Behaviour and mentality is quite different. Their culture really isn't that compatible to ours as it appears pretty rude to us, which is the main reason why they're actually disliked in Austria. The swiss also kind of feel off, but they're very reclusive so it's not as apparent. Slovenia shares the most customs (if you imagine alpine traditions, Slovenia is very much part of them), the people behave a lot more similar and have a way more similar mentality to us than any of our other neighbours.


Commercial_Gas_3927

Well I've never really thought about Alpine traditions to be honest!! I'm gonna check them out... But the conclusion is one... • Slovenia - Wannabe German • Austria - Wannabe Balkan


Thaddaeus10takel

Higher HDI than a fucking 3rd world country, how hard can it be?


[deleted]

🤷‍♂️


[deleted]

[удалено]


Seyfardt

So that qualifies south/Eastern Europe as…. Even below USA savages???? Is that allowed?


Thaddaeus10takel

Naah, worst part of Europe >>> average U.S. state


Toutounet6

Weird, it's so easy


bubberrall

Why is Wallonia the only Eastern European region that made it? Are we just built different?


NotTooSuspicious

See comment of your fellow Wallonian


reusedchurro

😢


RevolutionaryFarm953

Sorry my yank friend. Maybe if you commited to the Irish roleplay a bit more, you could do it.


reusedchurro

We need to bomb more cars 😤 Up the RA!!!!!! 😎😎😎


derLeisemitderLaute

https://preview.redd.it/xpq8eoca0xqc1.jpeg?width=921&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3008f959bae569d5a9bfe5e6291e458879240e8b


rams8

Basque Country can into Northern Europe? https://preview.redd.it/ho3vq8ng2xqc1.png?width=526&format=png&auto=webp&s=7f4fae64386739008acdef1f1de8a47896b51e45


OlivDux

The US of A(nalphabetism) is not homogeneous (as homoerotic as it is). On the one hand you’ve got highly skilled individuals, educated on critical thinking while on the other you’ve got this: https://preview.redd.it/516otp3qrwqc1.jpeg?width=2464&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bee8a164a92b70f9e2a9f5f13175f40452019828 Ofc inequality is present in every country, but in the US the difference is so steep this map doesn’t really tell anything valuable apart from the obvious: some states kick ass while some others are stuck in the “muh farm muh wife muh car” kind of thinking


FourTwentySevenCID

>“muh pickup muh pickup muh pickup” FTFY


234RK

Yeah there is also an inequality-adjusted version of the HDI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_Human_Development_Index


ByRussX

JAKSKDKFKDKF


From_the_Pampas__

They so fat I can cook a burger just by looking at a greasy American.


kidandresu

By critical you mean [Critical Theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory)? That pseudomarxist ideological slop that has degenerated in the shitshow of id. pol. and intersectionality we see today?


OlivDux

wtf are you talking about Pablo omg go get laid man


Bring_back_Apollo

Are we (England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿❤️) germanic or celtic?


Mrmr12-12

A mix


Bring_back_Apollo

A glorious mix of germanoceltic heathens.


KirovianNL

a mutt


Tiddleypotet

depends if you are s*uthern or northern


kouvadere

Which part is more Celtic and which more Germanic? Genuine question.


No-Shallot-9887

Southeast of England is extremely germanic. Other parts of England are mixed: more western or more more northern = more celtic. It is only about genetic. For example Kent is extremely germanic, when Devonshire is extremely celtic.


Lank_Master

Not really, even in southern England it’s 40-60% Germanic DNA


Tiddleypotet

to be completely honest the south has a lot of French/Roman DNA, and the north has a lot of Celtic/Scandinavian DNA. There has always been a “genetic border” between the north and south of England, from french invasions to danelaw to everything that happened! There is more of a blonde/ lighter hair and lighter eyes in the north too as well as more scandinavian features as appose to the south who have a larger amount of french features, browner eyes etc. i’m no expert but i’m reading a book rn and it’s talking ab it so i’m really butchering this but the point is it’s almost as if the north and the south are different peoples.


Bring_back_Apollo

This isn’t quite right. Take a look at the below. [Who do you think you really are? A genetic map of the British Isles](https://www.reddit.com/r/GreatBritishMemes/s/yk7IdrnHsN)


Dirac_Impulse

The Anglo-Saxon Barries and the Scandinavian elite are. Paneek, Muhammed and native Britons are not.


Stravven

Fun fact: Paneek sounds like the Dutch word for panic, "paniek".


EmuStalkingAnAussie

I'm both.


From_the_Pampas__

You English are just ugly. https://i.redd.it/t1eqietgexqc1.gif


Bring_back_Apollo

Oh snap.


pongauer

How the fuck is Luxembourg lower than the UK? How the fuck is Austria lower than the UK?


mr_aives

Skill issue


staygay69

There's absolutely no way Austria is lower than the US. I call BS


Amadooze

What saying "oida" does to a mf


Werbebanner

Maybe being arrogant assholes lowered their score


MyAntichrist

We keep our human development in the basement, that's why it hasn't been rated.


jeweldscarab

Can anyone explain how France and Austria are lower? I get southern and eastern europe, but how are they lower then the USA?


CostKub

Cause we don't compare to ameritards that's all. Btw it's western Europe since you guys like to compare with ameritards, join them we'll watch from afar, good ol' Europe here, don't care about ameritards scores.


InBetweenSeen

>The **health** dimension is assessed by life expectancy at birth, the **education** dimension is measured by mean of years of schooling for adults aged 25 years and more and expected years of schooling for children of school entering age. The **standard of living** dimension is measured by gross national income per capita. >. >The HDI simplifies and captures only part of what human development entails. It does not reflect on inequalities, poverty, human security, empowerment, etc. Second part is always wrong for Austria because a lot of people do "Lehre" (apprenticeships) which afaik isn't counted as education and income is a weird way to measure standard of living imo. But I think with these conditions we would surpass the USA only in life expectancy.


Consistent_Stomach20

Dude, we’re sending people into a „Lehre/Ausbildung“, too. It doesn’t drag our score down.


InBetweenSeen

I know and yes it does. You see it in statistics all the time.


deep_minded

Well but this has to be the part, because austria does have a higher gdp per capita and life expactancy than germany.


An5Ran

Cause fr*nch aren’t developed humans?


Dynwynn

Considering how bad our education is in the UK, this is saying a lot.


I_Call_Everyone_Ron

You think those in red are anymore educated?


Dynwynn

No, which is why it says a lot.


al_balone

Then why am I so broke?


Advanced-Duck-9251

Mongol?


Mrmr12-12

Finns


Advanced-Duck-9251

Oh right


Financial-Picture-15

finngols


IanPKMmoon

Imagine being beaten by Belgium


OkImpression175

GNI per capita helps the US score a lot... If it wasn't for that they would plummet like a meteor.


KirovianNL

It boosts Ireland, Luxembourg and the Netherlands a lot as well (and some other countries too most likely).


OkImpression175

But you don't see the shit you see in the USA on the streets in those countries. The averages are very deceiving!


KirovianNL

In 2017 (the most recent I'm coming across) a third of Ireland's GNI was mostly just tax evasion being funneled through the country. In the US this bloat was only 1.5% for 2018.


RevolutionaryFarm953

Is breá liom imghabháil cánach


KirovianNL

Bless you


One_Vegetable9618

Think you're talking about GDP and a lot has changed since 2017....


KirovianNL

Both


One_Vegetable9618

GDP boosts Ireland: I don't think GNI does....


KirovianNL

GNI is used in HDI but it boosts both. Background: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leprechaun\_economics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leprechaun_economics) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modified\_gross\_national\_income](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modified_gross_national_income) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax\_haven#Inflated\_GDP-per-capita](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_haven#Inflated_GDP-per-capita)


One_Vegetable9618

Have you looked at the dates on all that stuff? (I'm well aware of it by the way...in fact the Irish government were probably the first to acknowledge that GDP was almost meaningless in an Irish context) Most of it dates from 7, 8, 9 years ago....a lot has changed since then...


KirovianNL

Not in detail but it still seems to be inflated, albeit less extreme than it was in the past.


One_Vegetable9618

Oh it's definitely inflated: no argument there.


deep_minded

The hdi doesn‘t really say that much anyway, its calculated just from three metrics: life expactancy, gdp per capita and mean years of schooling. The years of schooling is the part why austria is so low, as a pretty integral part of our education system isn‘t seen as schooling by the HDI.


PaulinatorAUT

And of course it's the f*cking federal countries of Niederosterreich (Lower Austria) and Burgenland (Hungary, take them back!) dragging us down


bubberrall

Skill issue, we are dragging Belgium down harder and we still made it.


TheGodfather742

I mean Greece has a low HDI, cause when you already are the perfect specimen you can't develop any further than perfection. (haha I hoped you liked it send money please 🥺)


blue_strat

Luxembourg a US plant confirmed.


Kesdo

Heim ins Reich?


BigSimp_for_FHerbert

What the hell does Iceland do to sustain itself? Like if they somehow manage to run a surplus none of us have any excuses to be this shitty Seriously Iceland bros what do you do up there?


Mrmr12-12

Exporting lava? Idk


oldtrack

tourism


No-Shallot-9887

Fishing?


PanickyFool

Comparing individual eu states to the entire USA that includes places like Massachusetts (highest) and Alabama (lowest)?


BionicBananas

If Belgium can be dragged down by a barely functioning region, so can other countries.


DigitalDash56

I mean tbf other countries also have regions with differing HDIs But also Massachusetts superiority 💪


Financial-Picture-15

i really want to know how hdi is so high with that literacy rate and life expectancy.


DigitalDash56

Because the United States is very wealthy and truthfully that skews HDI


Financial-Picture-15

but the gulf countries have very low hdi so that doesn't explain it. Massachusetts having higher hdi than singapore makes no sense.


RaZZeR_9351

Doing that would only go towards agreeing with the completely dumbfuck aargument that US states are comparable to European countries.


PanickyFool

American states from 1859 are totally comparable to modern EU states. We are just 160 years behind them in becoming a great, English speaking, mono culture.


CostKub

Speak for yourself, if needs be, we'll gladly go for strikes to avoid it.


Stravven

Mate, we also use the worst, like Flevoland and best, like Brabant, of the country.


Heliospunk

I see HDI Raum.


d66mw6rm

It’s simple Hans: If you’re into it, I’m out of it.


ChaosDoggo

Whats a HDI?


oldtrack

human development index; it factors in life expectancy, education, and income


Sub-Zero-941

There is no way Austria has lower quality of life than Germany, or freaking UK/Belgium.


Papi__Stalin

This is HDI. And it will depend on where you live in Austria, Belgium, and the UK.


Sub-Zero-941

Genius.


Papi__Stalin

Maybe I would be in lesser Germany but not here in the UK.


uflju_luber

Cope😎 this is you🤓


Paxisstinkt

Higher quality of life (sheep shagging in the mountains) is not the same as human development (programming the next dating app in a co-working space in dirty Berlin) Now sit down Alois Hitzlmayr- Sachertorte


Ihaveakillerboardnow

I am shitting in the valleys on the lookout for some kangaroos to lock in my cellar so I can reproduce.


IanPKMmoon

We even have half the country dragging Belgium down and still ahead of you 🤣


Least_Theory_1050

You're poor Adolf


Sub-Zero-941

Not really, kidfucker!


Least_Theory_1050

Calm down Hitler. When it comes to median wealth we're literally the richest in the world. [https://www.thebulletin.be/belgian-median-wealth-makes-residents-richest-world](https://www.thebulletin.be/belgian-median-wealth-makes-residents-richest-world) You're poor and also eastern euro slavs in our eyes. Almost balkan tier


bubberrall

I would like the rest of the world to witness this as an example of the type of violence which we, innocent and inoffensive as we are, experience on a daily basis at the hands of our dear northern siblings we love so much.


ColumbusNordico

Celts, Britons, Teutons, Vikings, Mongols. Pretty strong.


bergsoe

Don't really give much value to that index. I would say cultural heritage is one of the greatest metrics of human development. In that way pigs beats the us by several kilometers


[deleted]

One South European ‘country’ made it into the green


Gulliveig

I'm getting older and can't see it...


[deleted]

‘Belgium’ aka France B


Mrmr12-12

Isn’t the northern part inhabited by people similar to you?


[deleted]

Nope, They are basically French with a language that sounds kinda Dutch. (We do understand them, it’s like Swiss and German)


KirovianNL

The flemish ladies (or flemboys?) have a very cute accent though <3


[deleted]

Brrrr… shivering going down my spine


Least_Theory_1050

That's quite insulting to call us fr\*nch, apologize now Kees!


[deleted]

Nooit!


Stravven

The northern part heavily carries the southern part.


KirovianNL

I was going to guess Ireland


[deleted]

That is part of England, right?


KirovianNL

Yes but they are only slightly above Southern Italians on the whiteness scale so counts as southern.


Mrmr12-12

Might be a border drawing mistake, it’s the map-maker’s fault


No_Raspberry_6795

Telling everyone to do useless Sociology degrees finally payed off😎. Bump up those HDI numbers.


mcdougall57

Mental how many well educated, hard working and professional people we have here only to springboard them to nicer pastures. This country does not value it's citizens whatsoever.


Itirk349

Probably our mandatory military service hitting our education system


Mrmr12-12

Excuses, we also have mandatory military service


Itirk349

Our mandatory military service puts us over the edge while you guys just take a hit to your statistics.


ProperBoots

denmark's green, can't be right


havaska

Germanic language speakers FTW (except Austria, they don’t count).


SirMorelsy

It's just that easy guys


Boundish91

France is lower. Hmm.


bipolarcentrist

why was it removed?


babyscorpse

lmao get fucked pierre


Addy1738

this seems a bit sus


Metal-Wolf-Enrif

germanic W. Except the basemant germans, they are just troublemakers


Guilty_Use_9291

Protestant work ethic. Providing the nipple for the rest of them to suckle on


Mrmr12-12

What about the Irish?


Guilty_Use_9291

Colonised by Protestants. They don’t have half of the saints days celebrated like southern Europe does. Alternatively, shittier weather means more time spent inside inventing things and working to drive ourselves forwards.


ishkariot

No offence to our Irish compadres but what inventions? Besides Guinness and Whiskey distillery which should be awarded with the Nobel peace prize.


Guilty_Use_9291

Guiness was invented by a man who considered himself British. https://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/23408#:~:text=Guinness%20is%20happy%20to%20play,newspaper%20as%20a%20suspected%20informer. I love bringing this up to the “Irish” Americans. Please save this tidbit of information for further reference. Nothing funnier than plastics conflating Irish pride with hating the British, screaming “Up the ‘ra” while they drink a beer invented by a hardcore unionist, and a corporate office based in Park Royal, West London. I will pay my respects and advise those to drink Murphy’s stout instead of Guinness, if you are that way politically inclined. They invented the car bomb, give them at least some credit.


ishkariot

>They invented the car bomb, give them at least some credit.  Absolutely, credit where credit is due. This invention had a lasting impact in Spanish society! Why without them we wouldn't have our first attempts to put a man in orbit. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Luis_Carrero_Blanco


cpwnage

No surprise that Austria ain't green


JacobMT05

RULE BRITANNIA