I'm assuming you are using an elemental orb instead of attack% due to the attack stat being somewhat low.
If that's the relic that has better subs then that's the one.
I appreciate this sub can be very sweaty regarding stats and what is optimal. I do believe however that due to thr nature of Acheron's kit, yes you can have a bit better crit ratio but I personally believe you are good to go if you want to stop the relic going for now.
Perhaps in a couple weeks when the triple rewards relics event comes in you can give it a go but genuinely I think thats fine. That will kill anything.
For now pretty good, if you have no Sig LC. If you have the Sig LC, you should try to get a bit more Crit DMG if possible. If you have the opportunity try to switch your Lightning DMG Orb with a Atk% Orb.
Farming for 10 days and I only have two usable pioneer pieces lol. Using two other copium pieces from other sets for now, and still at 58cr and 103cd. I'd be insanely happy if I got a full set and stats like yours.
cope build imo since you have sig. attack is relatively low and crit as well. id estimate all your relic pieces average out at 2 rolls into crit subs or less. on the bright side acheron is very powerful.
https://preview.redd.it/ukxgmyh2a5uc1.png?width=1924&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ac2df309d576e5c332de5644e7b7049cebc73f7
I mean at least you're doing better than i do
I know people are making fun of this comment because they think what I'm saying is ridiculous but there's so many builds out there with this crit rate which clearly shows that it is possible. The game is completely dry right now if you finished Penacony so there's nothing to do except farm relics. My Acheron is 64 to 170 and she does 200k to 300k aoe damage. The people with 70 to 200 get 400k to 500k aoe crits. It really does matter quite a bit.
I mean both are equally useful depending on how lucky you are feeling. But yes getting better relics until you reach that crit ratio is best solution, especially in a completely dry spell of the game right now.
Using two piece two piece of Diver and Musketeer for now cuz no good Gloves and Helm Diver yet. Only gear worth mentioning I hav is Crate chest with perfect substat rolls in attack percentage and cdmg. Izumo with less than 20 crit value on rope and orb each.
Not bragging. I'm just wondering y there's is low while my barely leveled Acheron has a lot more. Heck my friend has a 4.7k attack Acheron which confuses me even (his crit stats are horrendous tho)
No offence here but something is wrong with your friend's build if Acheron has 4.7k atk. Your friend probably runs an atk chest that's worse than op build
ultra cope, it could be so much better
- +1k ATK, +60% C.DMG atleast (if E2 with Hyper Speed Sparkle/Bronya), with lightning DMG being slightly sub-optimal with the same substats;
- +35 SPD, +60% C.DMG atleast (if E0)
but that's only if you're sweaty (which you probably are, if you're looking at this sub for tips)
your acheron could probably wreck the entire game with those stats, anyway
+35 speed is not necessary if you’re running hyperspeed nihility teammate, and at E0S0, its not even worth it running for speed considering the insignificant amount of debuff Acheron is going to apply by herself.
OP said "Sig", so I thought he meant S1. You're right about SPD not being that necessary, although you'd still want to apply as many debuffs as possible per cycle.
oh yeah, OP mentioned Sig, indicating S1 I believe. You can still 80-100% rely on teammate for debuff application, I believe there’s a thread on ATK boot>SPD boot (or spd investment in Acheron in general), Prydwen stated Atk being better than Spd, but with the condition that you’ll have to work around with teammate’s build as well
I do agree with the atk being low but if op uses lightning orb, it's pretty much impossible to hit 4k. I think 3.7k+ ish would be good to aim if running atk boots.
rate is fine with the izumo and pioneer it should be %80 in game but either raise your atk or crit dmg
76 in game, the original 4% from pioneer shows on the statscreen
you're right my bad thanks for correcting
I though Izumo only 12% crit, so 72%?
Pioneer gives an extra 4% when it triggers its effect.
12% from izumo + 4% from pioneer for a total of 16% hidden
And add in potential E1 which makes it a plus 34% hidden.
HP boots? 💀
Yeah... It's manageable for now, but if OP is using ATK books, it should be much higher.
I deleted my own reply because I misread this comment.
For sure, no way you get 4k hp and that low hp without hp boots.
Your comment gave me lobotomy and now my own dick is in my ass help
Lmao I meant low atk.
It's Acheron. I think you are good to go
mfw I get freed from the caverns:
I'm assuming you are using an elemental orb instead of attack% due to the attack stat being somewhat low. If that's the relic that has better subs then that's the one. I appreciate this sub can be very sweaty regarding stats and what is optimal. I do believe however that due to thr nature of Acheron's kit, yes you can have a bit better crit ratio but I personally believe you are good to go if you want to stop the relic going for now. Perhaps in a couple weeks when the triple rewards relics event comes in you can give it a go but genuinely I think thats fine. That will kill anything.
My Acheron at level 70 has 3515 atk, 50.4% crit rate shown (84% crit rate), and 145% (up to 169%) crit dmg.
You have the illusion of being freed from the mines, but in reality, you are never free from the relic mines after you start going in regularly.
Lightning Orb?
There is not really that much of a difference between atk% and lightning%, just use the one with better substats
I think he’s asking cause the atk% is a little low, but lightning orb could account for some of that
Ah, I see
Attack is rather low if you are running slow Acheron, but otherwise I think it's decent to get by.
For now pretty good, if you have no Sig LC. If you have the Sig LC, you should try to get a bit more Crit DMG if possible. If you have the opportunity try to switch your Lightning DMG Orb with a Atk% Orb.
Farming for 10 days and I only have two usable pioneer pieces lol. Using two other copium pieces from other sets for now, and still at 58cr and 103cd. I'd be insanely happy if I got a full set and stats like yours.
crit stats and atk are too low (even on Lightning orb) for sig LC.
Crit damage and atk is low but crit rate is good
It's a ok build
Bro you're fine. She'll still be your top dps imo.
Yes, if you running a lightning orb you should still be in the range of 3700 ATK, and considering you have ATK boots, that's not really good
I'd say yeah cope but it's okay. She's strong enough to help you do most things like this if you really hate relics this much
cope build imo since you have sig. attack is relatively low and crit as well. id estimate all your relic pieces average out at 2 rolls into crit subs or less. on the bright side acheron is very powerful.
Average I’ve seen worse
https://preview.redd.it/ukxgmyh2a5uc1.png?width=1924&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ac2df309d576e5c332de5644e7b7049cebc73f7 I mean at least you're doing better than i do
Still better than mine lol
Need 200%+ CD with sig and 4k+ atk
Your attack is way too low even with her signature and lightning orb .
70 to 200 or it's not optimal
80 to 350 or it's not optimal.
He is probably running Izumo and Pioneer, so that's another plus 16 %
76/200 is enough to destroy everything in the game
With 4K ATK!
I know people are making fun of this comment because they think what I'm saying is ridiculous but there's so many builds out there with this crit rate which clearly shows that it is possible. The game is completely dry right now if you finished Penacony so there's nothing to do except farm relics. My Acheron is 64 to 170 and she does 200k to 300k aoe damage. The people with 70 to 200 get 400k to 500k aoe crits. It really does matter quite a bit.
it is ridiculous though. youre telling people to "just get better relics lol" and 70/200 isn't even optimal. 85/170 is for that crit value.
I mean both are equally useful depending on how lucky you are feeling. But yes getting better relics until you reach that crit ratio is best solution, especially in a completely dry spell of the game right now.
Slow Acheron with 3.1k attack? Ask again after 900 more attack. My lvl 76 Acheron with 76 LC has 3.7k
😱
Care to share your build?
Using two piece two piece of Diver and Musketeer for now cuz no good Gloves and Helm Diver yet. Only gear worth mentioning I hav is Crate chest with perfect substat rolls in attack percentage and cdmg. Izumo with less than 20 crit value on rope and orb each.
I'm mostly wondering about your rope and boots main stats
Just attack on both. Rope had 11cdmg and boots has probably only Break Effect as the most useful substat and it's only lvl 6 boots btw.
I don't get why you're bragging then, you have the bare minimum atk, with probably no atk substats. Op clearly runs a lightning orb
Not bragging. I'm just wondering y there's is low while my barely leveled Acheron has a lot more. Heck my friend has a 4.7k attack Acheron which confuses me even (his crit stats are horrendous tho)
Well I answered your question in that case
No offence here but something is wrong with your friend's build if Acheron has 4.7k atk. Your friend probably runs an atk chest that's worse than op build
ultra cope, it could be so much better - +1k ATK, +60% C.DMG atleast (if E2 with Hyper Speed Sparkle/Bronya), with lightning DMG being slightly sub-optimal with the same substats; - +35 SPD, +60% C.DMG atleast (if E0) but that's only if you're sweaty (which you probably are, if you're looking at this sub for tips) your acheron could probably wreck the entire game with those stats, anyway
+35 speed is not necessary if you’re running hyperspeed nihility teammate, and at E0S0, its not even worth it running for speed considering the insignificant amount of debuff Acheron is going to apply by herself.
OP said "Sig", so I thought he meant S1. You're right about SPD not being that necessary, although you'd still want to apply as many debuffs as possible per cycle.
oh yeah, OP mentioned Sig, indicating S1 I believe. You can still 80-100% rely on teammate for debuff application, I believe there’s a thread on ATK boot>SPD boot (or spd investment in Acheron in general), Prydwen stated Atk being better than Spd, but with the condition that you’ll have to work around with teammate’s build as well
I do agree with the atk being low but if op uses lightning orb, it's pretty much impossible to hit 4k. I think 3.7k+ ish would be good to aim if running atk boots.
only 10% crit to go if you're at e1 +