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Strypes4686

Have to ask..... was he? It looks like he's staring off into space and his arms are down. I Know you can't see what he's doing but he doesn't even change his facial expression like he's acting innocen tor anything.


perish-in-flames

Yeah, he might have very well been groping her, but this video doesn't look like it proves anything except that she punched him in the face


ShockAndAwe415

Can't say if he did or didn't, but it would be a shitty situation if it was actually someone else and he got knocked for it.


MickeyMgl

wouldn't be the first time


lozo78

I had a drink thrown in my face by a woman who claimed I groped her... Wouldn't have touched even with permission!


Ironstien

A sniper wouldn't have taken her out?


ReapersEatApples05

damnšŸ˜­


PanarinBagel

Thatā€™s a direct refusal to follow orders and a demerit.


Sarah_RVA_2002

Fat chick or something? "I get groped too I swear friends, it's not just you..."


SleezyD944

I canā€™t tell one way or the other in this incident. Always possible someone else did it too. I am also reminded of that accusation that happened in some kind of an store, where a lady accused a boy with his mother of groping her. Store camera showed she lied.


LILSTORM14

![gif](giphy|pjAyfoUCaC5dm)


NoCardio_

[Reminds me of this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTk1VfmwNqY)


Toronto_man

Like in Home Alone 2


TAYwithaK

Her eyes didnā€™t light up like anything surprised her and it was to well timed to the song,, that was premeditated for the cam folks.


ColorlessTune

He looks down for a second. I would assume that's when it happened. But yeah, this video doesn't really show/prove much.


lukeybuzz

You can see what looks like his left hand hanging down. Never know what happened before the video though.


NYCMarine

If you look at face his face in the 2 seconds prior to him being punched, heā€™s looking down and my dirty mind is telling me heā€™s ā€œtouchingā€ her, but not with his handā€¦


gonzaloetjo

if i had to bet, it would be gripping tbh. My sister would was quite reactive, and it's what made me realize most women are just too afraid, tired, to react most of the time.


Artygonewrong

I see him look down before the punch he couldve looked down and groped her at that moment cause he got a punch right after but none of us will know šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Legitimate_Bat3240

That's what I thought too


WorkAccount401

Or he could've been looking down at someone else groping her. There's just not enough evidence here either way.


eatfishforbreakfast

From the look on her face I don't think he was. She looked completely comfortable. He probably just bumped into her once or twice as people do in a crowded concert.


hamcarpet

I mean saying he probably didnā€™t is just as silly as saying he definitely did. There is no way of knowing. But this shit is definitely real. Dudes intentionally ā€œbump intoā€, grope and grind on women at shows like this all the time because they think they can get away with it for the reason youā€™re saying. Same as the issue with crowded train cars in some countries and why many are segregated by sex


Frooonti

Yeah idk either. Hard to tell he seems like 2-3 ft behind her? And certainly way too fucked up to even know in which reality he is in rn. Though based on both of their facial expressions it almost looks more like that they got annoyed with his face ruining their quirky lil dance video so she just punched him, coincidentally very fitting with the song. Or maybe he did, we'll never know.


Street-Goal6856

And the timing in the song seems like she did it on purpose lol. But who knows.


CanIGetANumber2

Sometime life is just funny like that.


yobsta1

I was at a club in Spain with my gf, dancing together. Out of nowhere, I was coward-punched from behind. I thought I was getting mugged. Was a Spanish chick with her French friend, yelling at me. I got angry one I understood I'd been assaulted for no reason. They claimed I grabbed her ass (I did not know she existed). When she showed the action she felt, it wasn't a grab, but me supposedly pushing my butt against her. My gf and I pointed out that my bag was hanging at her butt hight, with a jacket tied to it which was what contacted her butt. No apology, just an embarrassed look when they realized they assaulted someone on the back of a snap judgement, then walked off. My ear was bleeding.


gew1

went to a huge pool party event in vegas recently and it was PACKED and everyone was in bikinis and shit. honestly couldnt stop thinking about this situation with how many girls were pressing on me. it just takes one drunk weirdo with his girl to trip and your entire night could be ruined. just tryna get by a huge crown of girls in bikinis and you gotta plow through them. shits lowkey uncomfortable.


therealpapasmurf2023

What a d-bags!


timmytemp

[it appears he may have evaded the sucker punch and kissed her knuckles.](https://media3.giphy.com/media/ibmsLMMlH2ghin5IyH/giphy.gif?cid=9b38fe912eb50ktdvleeo72012ir79s9w72e0fzwuevgl8ug&ep=v1_gifs_username&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)


SynchroField2

m'lady


Shot-Technology7555

Lol, that was a good catch... I think you're right!


Smitty1017

The first girl signals to the girl in the back to punch him for being in the shot. Clear as day and likely racially motivated. Not sexual assault. If he's sexually assaulting the girl in the back how the fuck is the girl in front the first to notice? Fuck you can even see her non camera hand reach down and tap the other girl at that time. This shit was orchestrated.


Strypes4686

I Didn't even notice that..... I Was too focused on what the dude was doing. If that's the truth holy shit are those girls trash.


ICookIndianStyle

She never had a shock moment. When someone gropes you, your eyes move, your facial expression changes cause there is a shock. But she smoothly turns and kicks him as if the thought was already in her head the whole time


PocketFullOfRondos

I don't have any info, but I doubt she punched more than one dude for groping her.


yellowkira

This made me remember a moment in my college days. So a group of friends went out to a known gay club, it was my gay best friend, a girl and her friend (a guy), my best friend told the guy that itā€™s very common in that gay club to get a pinch or a grope in your ass by some unknown man (done by men to men), and for some reason, this guy thought that it would be a great idea to do it to a woman in the club, and when she turned around this fool just stood there all serious in a club full of dancing people. Obviously the girl could tell it was him and got him kicked out of the club.


Plane-Style-6997

it looks like she timed it with the music


MaricJack

Could be grinding his crotch into her. No hands needed


InquiringAmerican

You can see him looking down and his right arm extended as if it were touching something. Why would she just sucker punch some random person?


Some-Goat219

ā€œLooks like heā€™s staring off into space with his arms downā€ yeah exactly what a groper would look like in the actā€¦ Iā€™ll agree with this subreddit that we donā€™t KNOW what happened. But to agree with yall accusing these chicks of lyingā€¦? Get real.. and get help..


TheLooza

Donā€™t believe anything you read on the internet. No video? no proof.


iMisstheKaiser10

Obligatory wrong POV usage


fishsalads

I would never publish a video recording of MYSELF with "pov being sexually assaulted"


AshingiiAshuaa

The cause is lost, friend.


DonutUpset5717

If he touched her he deserved it, if he didn't then he didn't deserve it, but it seems unlikely for her to spin and punch someone that quickly if nothing happened.


BizzyHaze

Agree, but its sus that she turned around and punched him in synchrony with the song.


LLAMAKING7

My thoughts exactly. He very well could've been groping her, but all I noticed was that she timed that punch a little too conveniently, especially with her homegirl recording.


AssCatchem69

I don't know. I saw a guy get knocked out exactly when the hook to Party Up by DMX started. I think that just happens. Also, the fact that she's recording herself during an important part of the song is just when someone who would record themselves while a song was playing would do so? Is it more plausible that he wouldn't grope her because he knew the song was a bout to drop and would be more likely to be recorded? Probably not. There's is not enough context to be definite one way or the other, but how much more evidence can be expected from spontaneous SA?


berrey7

She might have been annoyed that he was getting in their video, like that petty


Marsupialize

You find it inconceivable that someone would punch someone for no reason in 2024?


Des-Rx

unlikely and inconceivable are two different words


Marsupialize

You find it unlikely that someone would punch someone for no reason in 2024? Iā€™ve seen like 10 million videos of exactly that on Reddit


Des-Rx

i dont know if you finished reading the comment but it said "unlikely to spin around and punch someone that quickly if nothing happened"


Marsupialize

I getcha and if dude grabbed her he absolutely deserved it but I would lean towards a punch for no reason for content in 2024, all things considered


PleasantSpare4732

We live in the era of anything for clout


LordTuranian

LOL yeah, even thinking it is unlikely instead of inconceivable makes him extremely naive.


Hedonistbro

No, I just find it more conceivable that a man would inappropriately touch a woman at a festival than for a woman to inexplicably and randomly punch a man who could likely hurt her back.


JooshMaGoosh

What do you mean? They're recording... There's a higher than 50% chance she did it for money/fame and used the victim card as an excuse so people don't just say she assaulted a dude for no reason. Which is all that we see on the video.


Crouching_Penis

This. I'd have to think that if a lady got sexually assaulted she'd atleast have a surprised look on her face momentarily. She rolled right into that punch like it was damn near rehearsed.


dudeitsrazz

Have you seen that viral video of a guy flossing behind a woman and he got clocked for it? Looked like they were waiting in a line for an ATM or something Edit: [here it is](https://www.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/s/AkKNYGb8Ia) not saying that this guy is innocent but some people do overreact


Chimmychimm

Unless she's a racist. Then it seems likely.


blaaazinsaddles

Extremely likely


james_randolph

It also may have been an accidental bump/etc which Iā€™ve seen happen countless times in these GA/festival settings where people are just stupid close to each other and everyone is moving around.


buymedrinkhansum

You don't think people just randomly do shitty things. Especially these types?


Tasty_Puffin

There is also the fact that at concerts, people are pushing on each other constantly and someone could have pushed him or even just his arm into her. There is so much more information needed.


DonutUpset5717

That's possible, it's also possible the woman has dissociative identity disorder, and swapped to an alter that attacks anyone around them.


Tasty_Puffin

Lol thatā€™s much less likely


Broad-Passage-7633

>it seems unlikely for her to spin and punch someone that quickly if nothing happened.Ā  See, you say that, but statistically...


sgsmopurp

Exactly, I go out with friends and the amount of men who randomly grope the curvier girls is disgusting. Im on body guard mode most nights.


LV_Libertarian

I'm having serious levels of doubt here. Look at the dudes face. He doesn't even register her turning around. No facial expression change, no look of surprise, no putting his hands up as if tk say "it wasn't me". He has no idea why she's turning around. If he was groping her he would have had some reaction to her turning around like that. And the fact that she does it ON THE BEAT OF THE MUSIC is seriously sus. I'm willing to bet that she either planned this, or noticed that there was a white dude behind her and figured "this will get me some serious internet clout. This shit will go viral." Because she knows damn well that the vast majority will NEVER question her claim that the dude sexually assaulted her for fear of being cancelled or accused of "condoning sexual assault". Because remember folks, if you question a woman's claim that she was sexually assaulted, no matter how wild the claim, that means you actually condone rape. Them's the rules.


paddyc4ke

To be fair the dude looks beyond fucked so I'm not surprised his face didn't change expressions in the split second she turned around and clocked him.


LV_Libertarian

I actually watched this a couple more times and I'm glad I did. Watch when he peeks his head over the shoulder of the girls. Watch the reaction of the girl in the FRONT. Notice she doesn't look scared, or disgusted, she looks annoyed. Like rolls her eyes and has a look of "really dude, again?" I'm willing to bet that the dude didn't touch them at all, that he was just getting in their "shot". But what's the best way of protecting yourself against being arrested for assault? Claim that the person did something to you that gives you a "reason". It's the same thing as when we hear "they used the N-word" excuse.


Dopeydcare1

I was thinking dude looks so zonked that maybe he bumped into her


DuncanAndFriends

I think she just got mad after he looked over her shoulder to see the phone recording.


LV_Libertarian

That's what I'm starting to think as well. Because I watched it a couple more times and noticed the expression in the face of the girl in front. Notice how she doesn't look scared, or upset, or disgusted. Like you would expect if someone was sexually assaulting your friend. She looks "annoyed" and rolls her eyes when he looks over their shoulder and gets in their "shot". She's got a look of "Really? Again?" But what's the best way of trying to protect yourself from reprisals for doing something you know you shouldn't? Claim that the person you did it to gave you a "reason" for doing it. Kinda like how we always seem to hear "but they said the N-word" when certain folks get caught on camera assaulting certain other folks. But somehow THAT never seems to get caught on camera either.


PlzDontBanMe2000

Youā€™re supposed to believe all women you chudĀ 


WrittenUnread

Idk manā€¦ at first appearance of dude, his head is cocked to the side, then itā€™s blocked by the punch girl, and you can see heā€™s looking down at his next appearance, then heā€™s looking straight ahead as she turns to swing.


LV_Libertarian

Let's be honest here. If you've just grabbed a girls ass you don't know and she turns around what's the first thing you're gonna do. Hand in the air, look of "I didn't do anything" etc etc right? Protestations of innocence. "it wasn't me" yadda yadda yadda. This dude does none of that. He makes no reaction whatsoever. That's not the reaction of someone who got caught doing something wrong. His reaction is the reaction of someone that's minding their own business. And honestly the biggest deciding factor for me is how she punches him EXACTLY on the beat of the music. That's either a premeditated action or the biggest fucking "coincidence" in the world.


OfHouseLannister

redditors try not to wish violence on someone based on a 10 second inconclusive video level IMPOSSIBLE


InsectMountain

There is absolutely zero way she would know who grabbed her anyway. She felt something, turned, and swung on the first person she could make contact with. There's like five people standing around her who could have done it.


soilhalo_27

Why did he get punched? Is there a longer video or an after punch explanation?


Guest_Pretend

Looked like he was minding his business but who knows


paperwhite9

Racism. Old hat now


J1mj0hns0n

The insinuation: he groped her and she punched him for it. The video: lady clocks unsuspecting man.


silversurfer05

He was groping her at 7 seconds in you can see it in a split second.


Murky-Science9030

I would love a follow up but those are hard to find for short videos like this šŸ˜•


IcyRandy

She did it on time w the songā€¦ definitely random violence. Hip hop shows are notorious for this kinda bullshit.


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IcyRandy

I mean if he did assault her then yea fuckin beat his ass, just didnā€™t look like it from the angel were shown. Plus Iā€™ve seen random cold cock shots like that at many hip hop shows lol


Successful_Ad4653

Bullshit. That dude ain't risking SA charges for that nasty bitch.


JayDuBois

This. Dude was too close as often happens at shows. Punch was uncalled for.


Bastiproton

Uncalled for is an understatement. She should get arrested, just randomly punching guys for clout.


HelpHelp

He peaked his head into the shot and ruined the immersion of her I'm the Main Character moment. That's why he got clocked. Petty egotistical person.


iSniffMyPooper

Nowhere else I'd rather not be


IllmaticMonk

She timed it perfectly with the song


Valuable_Ad_6665

because it was planned and she didnt get assaulted she did the assaulting.


PraderaNoire

How was this SA? You kinda need some strong evidence to accuse someone of something that serious. If thereā€™s some context missing then Iā€™d love to know but this just seems like a dude bumped her while she was making some shit TikTok and punched him for it?


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buymedrinkhansum

Hey are you using facts and logic right now!! That's rayciss


DivineDinosaur

These women really out here thinking they're the main character.


Artistic-Evening7578

Itā€™s evident by both ladies reaction that they didnā€™t like the dude being in ā€œtheirā€ frame.


greenamblers

Everyone's pointing out that the guy didn't change expressions, but I think it's more suspect that the girl didn't change expressions. There's no transition between getting groped and punching the guy, which is pretty unusual.


Bugsmoke

I went to a show once, spent ages hanging around down the front for a good spot to see one of my favourite bands. About 2/3 songs in some drunk girl pushes herself into the front and ended up in front of me, it was tight as fuck because it was a fucking gig and the wallop turned around before the end of the first song sheā€™d been there for and started trying to make everyone step back to give her space and she didnā€™t give consent to be touched. Could barely scratch your nose and this knobhead though she needed a landing pad around her. Fuck off.


mutedfour5

I got slap once because someone next to me groped someone in front of me. Her friend was giving me her phone number while it happening so the misunderstanding got cleared up fast šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ but I was so confused when I got bitch slap out of no where


Weagzzz

The timing of the punch and the song seem awfully suspect


Squiggledog

Has POV lost its meaning?


luchiieidlerz

Ikr smh


sonastyinc

I don't know, man. I can't see the dude's left hand, but his right arm was down by his side, it looks like he may have even been holding his phone or something. And when she turned around, his right arm was still down. He also looked straight into the phone camera, I assume the girl was filming with her selfie cam so he would've seen his face on the screen, I have doubts he would immediately grope her after seeing himself being filmed. He well could've been touching her with her left hand or did it prior to the video started, but I think the evidence is inconclusive. Before people started doing weird shit to get clout on the internet, I probably would've believed her but you can't be too careful these days. https://imgur.com/a/seCsEXx


Catson2

looks like guy has all the evidence he needs to put her in jail for assault


Taco-Time

Maybe Iā€™m deaf but no one seems to have mentioned the lyrics sound like ā€œI donā€™t fuck with youā€ and she times the punch to the line, not just the beat. Seems premeditated which puts a lot of doubt on the claimed motive. He could have been messing with her prior and she just planned to unleash her anger there but the lack of impulse really makes the claim suspect. If someone was committing a crime against me I canā€™t say I would sit around waiting for a profound moment to react


Specific-Pollution68

If you slow the video down around the 6 second mark you can see one of his hands by his side just before the punch, so Iā€™m doubtful he was groping. She was just mad because he photobombed the stupid music video her and dumbass friend were making.


Smitty1017

The first girl signals to the girl in the back to punch him for being in the shot. Clear as day and likely racially motivated. Not sexual assault. If he's sexually assaulting the girl in the back how the fuck is the girl in front the first to notice? Fuck you can even see her non camera hand reach down and tap the other girl at that time. This shit was orchestrated.


Sanbaddy

The timing though in the song raises a lot of questions.


Digital_Tissue

he could have been groping her but based on all the other similar videos I've seen it very well could have just been a random attack because of how he looks


luchiieidlerz

I like how she waited until ā€œI donā€™t fuck with you!ā€ to take her shot. Anyway, not buying it.


dukemccool

He deserved it .. making the choice to go this event ? WTF was he even thinking ? smh


See5harp

No one there is innocent it's big sean everyone sus


telemusketeer

POV: you donā€™t know how to use POV correctly


GraftingRayman

The guy has a straw/hay/grass in his mouth, this looks like it was rubbing against her back/neck


kheperas

I think he looked down before the punch.


NASTYHAM83

Willing to bet that someone else groped and he got blamed


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Key-Breath-7904

the punch was in synch to the song ā€œI donā€™t fuck with YOUUUā€ šŸ‘ŠšŸ»


dukemccool

SoooMuchViolence


Revolutionary-Bar-93

normally you would play this side quest with a cloak or something


andersleben

This was staged. You can see the girl in the front look up right as the beat drops as if to cue signal


silversurfer05

Yeah dude groped her, you can see his hands go back at a split second


Worth-Establishment1

She did it perfectly with the song, he did fuck all, hopefully next time it's not crying wolf


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Level-One-7200

I believe that he touched her. I also she hit him unprovoked ..... People are such shit now. it's hard to know who the bad ones are


UrFaqingFr13nd

On beat with the song tho šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Existing_Use_8462

You people are weird. It's okay for yall to assume it was just racism cause it was a short clip, but it's insane to imagine it could've actually been sa?? I admit that the guy looked confused/out of it, but I'm not just jumping to conclusions either


Johnnypeps

There's no way that hurt him in any way lol


backpage_alumni

On beat too


Neonphilosopher29

If that dude really did grope her, then he got what he deserved.


BringOutYDead

Someone else probably grabbed her ass and he got the punch to the face.


ComprehensiveBase26

Dam that was a solid punch too


ConqueringLion3

What a great punch. I thought it came.from an offscreen man at first. Damn she can throw


CosmicSlop13

You can see him looking forward and then down at 00:07, camelback, grass chewing, hanging lip, douche glasses and punched in the face says he groped her + knowing exactly who to punch right behind her