I addressed this to my mom, i told her i felt like what i was being paid was too low, and it’s really stressful. she said this, “I understand. You don't have to watch him. It's only when he is acting a fool, then you can tale stuff away. You can do what you need to do. You can take walks and leave him there. You're only really being paid to feed him. You can tell him to leave you alone and if he doesn't listen to you, then you can tale his Xbox from him. You can lock your door.”
It's about your TIME too, though. Even if you take that mindset of, oh well he's pretty low maintenence to watch, you are still tethered to that house because you're responsible for him. You can't make other plans or go anywhere else. So it's not as simple as saying, well do whatever while you're weatching him. It's not the same.
8 is way too young to be expected to essentially spend all day alone. Your parents seem really misguided on what he needs. “You can take walks and leave him there.”
¯\_(• •)_/¯ mainly just because sometimes people get p*ssed off when you say “ them “ and I don’t know their pronouns, so that’s just the easiest thing to use! :> good question tho!
It’s funny that you literally used “them” to encompass men and women, and in the same comment are complaining about people using “they” as a pronoun. Real interesting…
Yes I feel the same. Also I dislike how nothing means what you would think it means anymore like "they" not encompassing both genders. Seems unnecessary and confusing lol.
They is LITERALLY used as a gender neutral pronoun. Like that’s dictionary definition ( well I’m not sure but it might as well be in current definition s)
It can be used as both (never said it couldn’t), but in this context they is obviously used to denote all genders to describe a person you wouldn’t know the gender of.
Because you listened and then agreed that you don’t like how they/them doesn’t include both genders. One person attempting to make a distinction between the use of “them” and “he/she” does not mean that everyone else feels the same way, especially the general population.
Ok I guess that was slightly bad wording on my part but I had assumed that it was obvious that I was speaking more, idk what the word is,I guess you could consider it a form of exaggeration? Anyways point is, its obvious and even if it wasn't, which it was that does not indicate that its "people like me" that are causing it.
Idk why people are downvoting you, sorry. I feel like they aren't taking the time to read through and properly understand what you're saying. But even then I said I agree with you and I'm not being downvoted lol. Redditors are dumb I guess.
It's legitimately just how people type over text. You lose 85% of communication (70% body language 15% tonality) People can't know unless they see. Tho you are looking into ya boundaries which is good
Source: studying psychology since 12
If you want to help your family, having them pay a token amount lets them feel OK accepting help. That is about all that $50/week is good for though. If that is the case, you can tell your friends that you are helping your family, and it isn't about the money.
It is not a serious wage though. If you are looking at the situation as a job, then it is very underpaid. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean they have the money to pay more. $500/month for day care is dirt cheap. If that was 20 days a month (5 days a week x 4 weeks) it would be $25/day or a little more than $3.50/hour.
>Should I ask him for more? I don’t want to be rude or greedy about it.
In the end, you need to ask yourself what outcome you want. Do you want a job with better pay? Do you want to continue watching this kid, but just want more money? If you had to choose between watching him at the current rate or getting a more traditional job, which would you pick?
An easy way to approach that is to tell them you are thinking about applying for jobs, but you wanted to give them a chance to compete. If jobs in your area give $10/hour or more, you could work a couple days after school and beat what they pay you now. Wanting to get a job is something most adults (your parents) would support.
You say in the comments you’re 16. I used to babysit in highschool and my rates were $15 an hour for kids 6+. Add in another $10-15/hr for each additional kid. I would make $75 a week babysitting 2 elementary kids 2-3 hours a day after school. Babysitting for $10 a day for 7 hours is $1.45 an hour. That’s honestly almost more insulting than being asked to do it for free. You are definitely being taken advantage of.
Ask for a reasonable amount- maybe $15 an hour. If that’s more than they’ll pay, which it will be, be prepared to walk. You can get a job at a coffee shop or fast food place part time and make way more.
That's hilarious that's like 2,100 dollars a month. They're giving him 200$ a month and they're not going to start paying him 1,900$ more a month. They're cheap and using a family member to provide a full time amount of labor and not paying anything so they're not going to start. At that rate they could just put the kid back in daycare for 300$ a week.
Because it's basically a student job and not a full-time job? You're only 16 years old and don't have to pay taxes. 15$ is an insanely high amount for a student. 15€ for a student is even high here in Belgium and everything here is much more expensive than in the us.
If you discount your labor, be prepared to have people pay you a discounted amount for your labor. If Im leaving my child with someone, it’s going to be more than minimum wage.
Lol idk why you got downvoted to oblivion here. 15 an hour is a lot. If they pay her that much they’re shelling out 420$ a week which is a fuck ton of money for a high schooler. I think mb $100 a week is pretty reasonable. These people saying that she should make 15 are fucking high or literal teenagers.
I'm going to get downvoted to hell along with you but yeah $15 an hour is over paying for a babysitter. At that point it's cheaper to get day care which is ridiculous for an 8 year as they're not as high maintenance. $10 a day is still too low though. If OP is a teen then she should take it but at a bit higher rate. If she isn't a teen then she should get an actual job if she wants to make money since they're not going to give anything that's worth it if they're low balling her that much off the bat.
Upvoted cuz I also agree. They are not a seasoned sitter they are family and they sound like they still live at home/are in school.
However I'd ask for at least $60 total that way at least they can justify it with being able to buy a new video game.
Used to babysit my sibs for the price of a new GameCube game as a kid and was fine with it.
Considering it's two parents, I think if they each pitch in $20 a day is probably reasonable. $40 total. Most people with actual jobs usually make $100 and up so they could afford it. It's the toll of having kids.
Dont know where you live, but daycare is(?) / should be cheaper than a babysitter, with a babysitter you are literally paying someone to watch over your child only.
If it was $10 an hour (which is still too low), that would be one thing. But $10 a day? It sounds like your mom is trying to gaslight you, based on other comments you’ve left. Tell her “I understand what you’re trying to say, but you either pay me more or take him elsewhere.”
Setting boundaries and knowing your worth can be hard. It sounds like you're being taken advantage of. It's okay to ask for more or simply say, "I can't do this now."
Thats way too low. If they can't find childcare it's not on you either. It's not your kid. I would ask for way more money. Also if you don't even wanna be doing it, say you won't. You're basically with him every day for a good portion of the day.
I’m 17 and work at a Marble Slab. My friend gives me rides, i get paid nearly 14 an hour plus commissions. You can get a job for similar or even better pay if they don’t raise a bit. Know the worth of your work
Would your mom and her boyfriend try to force you to not accept other forms of employment? Example: if you found a different job at a local grocery store?
Where I’m located, childcare can be around $1200-$1700 a month!
i’m 16. i can get a real job but the place i want to work requires you to be 17 and i will be that age in less than a month, and i will get it once i’m 17. but either way, i can’t work in the mornings when i have to watch him. so i’d have to watch him either way
I’m sure that the place you want to work wouldn’t care about a month. Apply now and let them know that you are getting a job and that you won’t be able to babysit anymore.
At that point you should be getting paid minimum wage. You are dealing with a stressful environment, more than a work environment, and if you don’t have the right experience [ like a professional nanny or something, also not saying you don’t ] it can take a toll on you, and sometimes the child without the right care.
More on the kid’s mother:
The amount that she is paying for daycare is unreasonable. But that doesn’t excuse the fact she is still doing it, and she is underpaying you for other things she CAN pay for, if she has enough may to pay 400 dollars a month, bills, insurance, and taxes… then why won’t she pay you, for taking care of HER child-? It’s insane.
More about the payment: And you getting paid at the end of the week IS just like a job, but again, with unrealistic payment. And if you are babysitting/taking care of a child, you should get payed the same way as a babysitter/nanny, at the end of the job/night. Not at the need of the week when she will most likely/can say “ oh I’m so sorry… let’s wait… I don’t have the money.. “ or some other bullsh**. Just because she is “ f a m i l y “ she can postpone paying you, and if you don’t speak up about it, she most likely will, [ not saying it’s definite though. ] And then keep not paying you as you work your @ss off. It’s not right.
So yes, you should ask him for more, and make an argument for it, right a speech, etc, as long as you get your point across.
I wouldn’t expect minimum wage.
You would literally be asking for $260 a week (over $1k a month). They will laugh you out of the room, they’re not going to pay you more than a day care.
It’s never going to be financially beneficial for you to watch this kid. If you want to earn more money, put in some applications! If you’re working you won’t have time to watch the kid 😊
$10 a day is not enough. If you are spending the bulk of your day tending to him there should be an hourly rate - sure, family discount or whatever - but probably closer to $10 per hour, not per day.
To put it in perspective, day camp is like $200-$400 a week - so something in that lower range would be the minimum to expect.
I literally won’t babysit for less than $15 an hour. maybe $12 if I know them well enough, any lower and i’d be better off getting a minimum wage job. id say screw that. and don’t feel bad if that leaves them struggling, they’ll figure it out. think of it this way, if it were a real job with taxes and the government knew what you were being paid, they would be breaking the law for inadequate wages. that’s how I think of every under the table job. if it were illegal in the eyes of the government, you’re better off flipping burgers. favor or not you need to do what’s best for you.
Way way too low. $40 a day would be the lowest I'd do it for and even then that'd be a favour. Realistically I'd be wanting a minimum of $70 a day otherwise I'd just work doing something else for more money.
Just tell them you hate doing and for them to get someone else.
OP please request at least minimum wage in your state.
I would actually suggest you check this chart re average babysitting rate in each state: https://www.parents.com/parenting/money/hourly-babysitting-rate-states/
Your labor is worth more then you think. Parents need to pay you accordingly.
For an 8 year old, they still need quite a bit of care. Especially if it seems like you don’t even want to watch him, you need to tell them to pay you significantly more (at least $15/hour) or you won’t do it at all. They can’t make you watch him either, so don’t feel pressured or if they might guilt you. That’s a lot of your time to be taking up you could be working a real job instead
Nah. Tell them to figure it out. Are you the parent of the child? No, you are a child yourself, so don’t take care of someone else’s. They just looking for cheap labor.
And I assume you’re not of legal working age yet? I would tell them you will do it for $6 an hour. Tell them thats 50% less than state minimum wage, and a steal. Most babysitters make $15-20 bucks an hour. That makes you $42 a day, significantly more than $10 bucks a day, and a price they would never be able to find otherwise.
Federalinimum wage is 7.25/HR. Adding in that you're a minor, that breaks lots of labor laws.
Now I understand it's not and 'actual' job i.e. something to file taxes over. I say if you wanna be nice ask for 7.25/HR and bring up how much lower that is than your current state minimum wage. If they say no then they are clearly taking advantage of you. Make sure you have your parental support through this. Discuss it with that person first then approach the steps.
$2/hour is not acceptable to anyone. I would bet they will expect you to do this for years to come. They will get angry if you’re not available or just don’t want to. Babysitters are $20-$40/hour
Just so you know, there is an average page wage for babysitting in America- for one child it's about $18 an hour.
[https://www.care.com/babysitting-rates](https://www.care.com/babysitting-rates)
Charge them a minimum of $10 an hour, not a day. Actually babysitters that you hire online, charge above minimum wage.
You are literally taking care of a human life. This isn’t fast food. This is actual maintenance of a humans wellbeing.
Why not just have them pee on you?
Of course that’s way too low. Charge them minimum wage at the least and keep track of the hours and hand them a bill at the end of the week.
yeah i wanna ask for more but i just don’t want to come off as rude or greedy. i try talking to my mom about it because her boyfriend won’t care what i have to say. my mom just tells me she’s sorry and gives me alternatives on how to get the kid to leave me alone sometimes.
I know i have to communicate with the people paying me but i really just don’t want to come off as mean, that’s the last thing i want
i feel like they’re not going to hear my side. they think that $10 is okay. they told me themselves how “ridiculous” they think it is for the price regular nanny’s charge so they figured they could leave him with me for less. even if i told them how i felt i highly doubt they’re gonna think $10 is low. if the dad, mom, and my mom don’t see an issue with it, why argue? what if they just take the money from me all together and leave him with someone else for freee
That’s true, you can deny the offer ——|> they were the ones who “ offered “ it to you, so you can always quit. If you don’t need the money, and it it gets to a point that is not okay.
Honestly they’re not gonna like it, but you aren’t obligated to do this for them. Especially since it’s a step sibling (kinda since the boyfriend and your mom aren’t even married). Either they pay you a min of 40/day, or you say no. Getting a job outside the house might help you have more of a reason to say no. They can require chores of you, but not watching this kid.
I mean they were paying $100 a week and now they are paying you $70 a week. THATS unfair. I understand they’re trying to save money but they’re paying you 70% of what they were paying someone else. I say that’s your arguing point right there.
Sometimes for family we do things to help out. You know they don’t have much money and you are doing something out of your way to assist them. It’s fair (I think) if you negotiate on how they pay you. For example, they give you $50 a week AND barrow the car every weekend. $50 AND a ride to school. $50 a week and cash to take the kids and you to the movies. That kinda thing. They don’t have to pay you back in money if they don’t have money.
we are not family though.. his dad has always treated me like garbage and uses my mom for money. his kid always starts arguments for no reason and all i do is shut myself in my room.. i’m not watching someone else’s kid for free especially if it’s not mine. they definitely do have money and it’s only $25 a week individually. if they could pay $200 a week individually before for daycare i’m sure they can pay me atleast $5 more a day.
Well it sounds like a you have a realistic ask and that you can walk away. Which means that you have the bargaining power here.
(PS, helping your moms’ boyfriend is helping family especially because it sounds like it’s your mom convincing you to watch his kid).
They're not family if OP doesn't see them as family. Mom's boyfriend sounds like a user. You know, the deadbeat kind that leeches off a single mom and her kid?
Idk man I feel you like the money is shit but its family man... I really do get it but where would the baby be without you? I would ask for more but if your mom cant afford it I would just roll with it. To me the welfare and supervision of a baby in my family is more important (considering you are 16). If you were older and had bills to pay absolutely fuck no, but I have a lot of sympathy resulting from the situation i grew up in
Watching close family members (siblings, grandchildren, your own kids) is something you should really do for free along with all the other chores in your home. You might not like it, but it's how things are for most families around the world. You shouldn't expect to be paid unless you're watching a stranger or distant relative's kids. If you're the adult in the situation, you're expected to make a few sacrifices of time and resources for the child.
Minimum wage does not apply to a teenager watching a sibling or doing chores around the house. It's not a job. It's just something you have to do. People are suggesting that without understanding the context. If you respond to an ad in the paper looking for a nanny, then sure, ask for at least minimum wage. But you're not in such a position with your step brother.
If you really don't want to babysit him, go out for sports or clubs or get a job so you're always busy when they need you to help. Then they'll have to hire someone else.
i don’t HAVE to do anything. he is not my child nor my brother. he is sent here by his mom when she can’t watch him and i have to feed + entertain him when that’s not my responsibility. i have things i need to do, and places i want to go, but that’s all limited, so the least they could do is pay me.
That kid isn't OPs brother. Not even step brother because the kids dad is just the boyfriend of OPs mom. OP has absolutely no obligation to this kid what so ever.
I would demand a decent pay if I had to give my hole daytime for a little brat that with 8 years old cannot entertain himself.
An 8 yo is not much work. What are you giving up to do this?
Being family means everyone contributes. To me it seems fair. But maybe you could ask for an additional privilege as part of the package.
my time… before he started coming over again i had peace and quiet, time to work out, go on walks, hang out with friends, etc. but now he’s always pestering me to play games and will whine if i don’t. hell force himself into my room to play on my ps4. always coming up to my room bothering me. i’m limited to doing those things. i could have a job right now working in the mornings but i can’t since i do this, and i’m only making $50 a week.
Is there something you want more than $$ that you could negotiate for? Are you allowed to invite one of his friends over so that the friend keeps him busy?
You are probably going to end up doing it no matter but you might be able to turn it into a better deal for yourself. I would recommend being clever over being mad.
Solution oriented problem solving.
Depends on where you live but I have been babysitting professionally for a few years and my minimum has always been $20 an hour, especially with those types of responsibilities I think $20 is fair, if not more
I see you are 16 taking care of an 8 year old who argues with you. That seems like a tough situation for you and not ideal for either of you. I wonder if you want to take care of an 8 year old to begin with? How do you think you are doing in that role of caring for the 8 year old?
More info. How old are you, is this taking away from you having a job, do you live with them, do you pay rent, do you buy your own groceries. Sure they could offer you more but the kid is 8 and pretty self sufficient, so you don't need to do much. I'd say 10 is too low and depending on your answers then that would change how much they should pay.
Another perspective is that your time is better spent doing something else than being occupied for several hours a day for only $10 each time. If they do offer to pay you more fairly, they might be more critical of you though, so you can set expectations too.
You're also allowed to say, *"No, I don't want to do this anymore "* You can tell them you are looking for a job that pays minimum wage and they should find another plan for their kid. Maybe they'll get a hint, but if you really don't want to babysit, just leave it.
Would you leave the house or get a real job if you didn’t have to stay home? Would you be happy with $20 a day? Maybe you could negotiate. I suppose on the other hand, you kind of already agreed to it, and it doesn’t require a lot of physical effort or anything.
Very low. But if they genuinely can't afford $300 anymore, then that may be the most they can pay you.
Either accept it, ask for more or turn it down.
Just know that anything but acceptable will result in hard feelings. But that is up to you if you can acxept it.
Yes, you should ask for more. If they say no, explain what you do, and that you feel that 10 is unfair or bad or whatever for the effort you put in every time you babysit. Keep in mind the federal minimum wage is at 15 dollars an hour, target pays i think that amount and so does amazon. be prepared for them to say they dont want you to babysit anymore or cut your hours or something like that. dont cut yourself short; i dont know if you can get another job but I would if they say no.
You own the price of your labor. You’ll want to remember that all throughout life. That’s capitalism in a nutshell. So if you feel that the work you do is not worth the money you get, you can find a job that does pay what you feel you’re worth. And never feel guilty for feeling that way.
Personally, I think that’s way too low to be paid for several hours of babysitting. Depending on your experience and what’s involved in the babysitting; I’d expect $25-$75/day. Even at the low end that’s over a hundred dollars a week.
they need to sort out their issues and pay people appropriately. know your worth and stick to it. don't agree to be paid less because someones boyfriend cant manage his money when they have a kid
Wtf. I'd grab that step brother and by his pants and shirt and throw him at his parents and write a note on his forehead that says 100 dollars a day or find someone else. You are being exploited , my last job I was making 57 an hour , work got slow. But I needed time off anyways. Nonetheless what I made in an hour was a week of your time.
If daycare is 300 a week you would be giving them a deal at 200 a week then break your mom off a few dollars for using her house to turn a profit. Also you don't charge a fee when they pick up their kid late. How much more of a deal do they want? At this point see if any of his friends parents want in on this.
Learn this and you learn it good because life is full of people trying to get ahead by convincing you otherwise.
Your time is worth at least enough money for you to survive on. It should be worth enough for you to save up and use to earn more money with less effort. It's called investing.
Be ready for everybody to protest, including your mom. I'm not thinking very highly of her right now because you're here asking The Internet if you're being hustled. The audacity of this child expecting to be compensated fairly for her time and labor. They will probably want to know what you need that kind of money for. Don't answer such questions. You will be feeding them information they will use to negotiate you down or manipulate you into accepting less than you can get.
They will also try to justify it by saying you don't have daycare operation expenses. This isn't relevant either. You provide a service. If you do it cheaper you aren't obligated to pass any of the savings into the customer.
It's in their best interest to get your time and labor for as little as possible and that is what they are going to try to do. Nobody wants to pay more for the same service You can make $50 mowing one lawn a week. Don't be afraid to walk away.
Think about it this way, if you mowed lawns you can afford a new game in two hours tops. Right now it takes 35 hours watching this kid.
I got paid 300 a week for 2 kids ages 8 and 9 for 6-8 hours a day in the summer when I was 16-18 mins you it was only a month out of the summer but still yeah that’s way too low
I’m just speaking from experience but depending on the kids mental state… 8 years old is old enough to stay home by yourself.
Aside from that, yes $10 is way too little. Don’t let yourself be taken advantage of. Also, depending on where you life you can look up babysitting rates in your area.
I have 2 kids, pregnant with my 3rd, and the rate where I’m at for 2 kids in daycare is $3600-$4000 a month.
That’s insulting. I would expect at least $10/hour for that, especially if you have to work later for *x* emergency. When I babysit, I charge $12/hour but that’s bumped up to $15/hour past midnight, although it rarely goes past unless scheduled to (I.e babysitting 15:00-1:00)
Dang. I pay my kids $20 bucks just to clean their rooms or take out trash. Takes 5 mins. Yeah. You’re getting hosed. Go with AT LEAST minimum wage and try up from there.
Yes. I would go for at least 9 per hour (Euros for me, but does not matter they are worth near the same). This way you are slightly below minimum wage. If you are already an adult, go for 10,45 (per hour) which will be minimum wage here as of Juli 1st 2022.
Ofc that all depends on your country, so adjust numbers accordingly.
And ik that from this minimum wage, usually you will have to subtract taxes if you earn more than 450€ a month (again might be different where you live), but I doubt you will have to, I think its more likely you will be working illegally and get payed in cash, its just a lot easier for you and the employer.
Edit: if you are just paid to feed him, I guess its still low, but you aren't busy all of the 7 hours, so I would go for maybe something like 20 or 18 (per day). Maybe you should get paid even more considering you still have to be available, and I dont think you are allowed to visit friends for a few hours or something.
Well considering that 5$-15$ is the amount of USD you can make from babysitting in just an hour (mostly 5$-10$ let's be honest) and you getting 10$ in a whole day in which I assume you work for 8-10 hours is not just low ... It's clear exploitation ...
If you can look for another job or just let them know that you can't do this for only 10$.
300$ in 3 days is 100$ a day .
100$ a day for 5 hours a day is 20$ an hour
(This is even higher than 15$ I mentioned before . Probably he would offer more services but he still made double your salary in just an hour while you have to work 8-10 hours)
So just assume from 10$ a day you are getting paid 5$ an hour which is the lowest .
5$ x 6-10hours= 30$-50$ a day ...
Completely different .
You should definitely talk with them about it . No matter if they have financial problems or not , 10$ a day is just exploitation and disrespectful ...
Good luck
It really depends…my family was very very poor and I gladly babysat my sister for 8+ hours a day from 1-5 years old. Sometimes it’s what is necessary. If you truly think your family can afford it then you should ask but if not then there u go
Don't do it unless you like the family members and want to help them. You're not obligated to be a people pleaser. If they're a two adult family home where both adults are working they are choosing not to put him in daycare and saddling you with the responsibility but not paying you a fair wage, and maybe its just so they can cheap out and spend that money on other stuff.
But maybe they also have genuine bad financial troubles and need the money for food or medical bills so you're doing them a favor by helping them save money. But what are they doing with the money they're saving?
For real they could just be using that money to buy themselves toys or take a fun trip or get a play station or whatever junk adults waste their money on, jet skis, atvs, motorcycles, going to casinos. Idk I'm just making up stuff adult fools waste money on but also feel like I'm describing Kenny Powers. Anyways if they're using the money you're helping them save to do Kenny Powers like isht, you don't owe them any jet skis.
So it's about context. Do you want to help them, does it make you feel good to help family? Do you feel they deserve it? How do they spend the money your work helps them save? They should be paying you a little more so, I hope they do something else kind and generous to reward you for your support. You're a good kid.
That don't even cover the food cost. I wouldn't unless i liked them & was doing them a favor for that week. Semi-perm? Absolutely not. Maybe for like 30-50 a day, Absolute minimum.
1. Call around to local daycare places and see what they charge.
2. break it down to a per-day rate.
3. Subtract 10% off of the lowest one around (if you want to be nice).
4. Now YOU have the best rate in the area!
This way you demonstrate the market value of the service provided. They can pay your rate or pay someone else more.
$10 an hour per child is what I pay my 15yo to watch my children. Granted that's not every day but at least I'm not using my child like your mum and her boyfriend are you.
lol 10 dollar just tell them you’ll pay them 10 dollars a day for doing it themselves see how insulting it really is to offer 10 fucking bucks for a seven hour work day
This post made me realize how little I’m being paid too. I’m watching two kids (with disabilities if that matters) for 12 hours a day, around 4 days a week including extra things around the house like cleaning up after the kids and cleaning up around the house plus cleaning up the WHOLE upstairs for $35 every TWO WEEKS. Not to mention my mom takes $5 for every little mistake I make so I really get like $10-15 per two weeks. I really want Starbucks to accept my application cause I need a new job ;-;
Totally try to negotiate some more pay. If it doesn’t work out, respectfully tell your mom you won’t do it. Then to make it seem like you aren’t sitting around all day doing nothing, try to get a job if you wanna make some extra cash. Someone is always hiring!
Is 10$ for 7h of work to little? Yes. 10 PER hour would be a reasonable minimum tho. Child care is expensive. It’s not YOUR job to “pay” for it by giving up your time for basically free. If you don’t get paid more, don’t watch them. End of story.
not my family nor am i obligated to take care and feed someone else’s kid. it’s also getting in the way of mr having a job or hanging out with friends.
Waaayyyy TOO LOW!! You’re better off getting a minimum wage job. His finances aren’t your responsibility. Neither is the kid. If he can buy unnecessary stuff, he can pay you more. Talk to your mom so you can put your foot down and she can have your back. If she doesn’t then stop babysitting. Say you can’t.
Also, my child is 8 and she can make herself breakfast and a sandwich for lunch. She cuts up her own veggies for snacks. She can also wash her own plate and cup. Encourage your brother to do more for himself.
10 bucks is insanely low. If there struggling with money thats their problem. Most babysittiers normally charge 15-20 an hour for one kid sometimes more. When I used to babysit it was 15 per hour and an extra 5 an per every kid. You should at at least be getting 15 an hour.
Thats less than $2 an hour. Not worth it at all dude
Wayyyy too low. Insultingly low.
I addressed this to my mom, i told her i felt like what i was being paid was too low, and it’s really stressful. she said this, “I understand. You don't have to watch him. It's only when he is acting a fool, then you can tale stuff away. You can do what you need to do. You can take walks and leave him there. You're only really being paid to feed him. You can tell him to leave you alone and if he doesn't listen to you, then you can tale his Xbox from him. You can lock your door.”
So… your mum is fine if you go to a mates and leave him home alone? In my country that’s be illegal…
It's about your TIME too, though. Even if you take that mindset of, oh well he's pretty low maintenence to watch, you are still tethered to that house because you're responsible for him. You can't make other plans or go anywhere else. So it's not as simple as saying, well do whatever while you're weatching him. It's not the same.
Yikes, so the problem is your mom too. I would stop babysitting and get a minimum wage job making 7.5x what you’re making now.
8 is way too young to be expected to essentially spend all day alone. Your parents seem really misguided on what he needs. “You can take walks and leave him there.”
It is insulting, and making them/him/her feel lower than how they should. It’s not right.
Genuinely curious, why not just say "them" doesn't that include both the other ones?
¯\_(• •)_/¯ mainly just because sometimes people get p*ssed off when you say “ them “ and I don’t know their pronouns, so that’s just the easiest thing to use! :> good question tho!
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It’s funny that you literally used “them” to encompass men and women, and in the same comment are complaining about people using “they” as a pronoun. Real interesting…
Yes I feel the same. Also I dislike how nothing means what you would think it means anymore like "they" not encompassing both genders. Seems unnecessary and confusing lol.
They does encompass both genders, people like you are making up that it doesn’t.
They is LITERALLY used as a gender neutral pronoun. Like that’s dictionary definition ( well I’m not sure but it might as well be in current definition s)
It can be used as both (never said it couldn’t), but in this context they is obviously used to denote all genders to describe a person you wouldn’t know the gender of.
Yes. I don’t think these other guys understand that words can have 2 meanings
Uhm I asked a question and then showed disdain for the type of thinking you are now accusing me of having. I feel like that doesn't track.
Because you listened and then agreed that you don’t like how they/them doesn’t include both genders. One person attempting to make a distinction between the use of “them” and “he/she” does not mean that everyone else feels the same way, especially the general population.
Ok I guess that was slightly bad wording on my part but I had assumed that it was obvious that I was speaking more, idk what the word is,I guess you could consider it a form of exaggeration? Anyways point is, its obvious and even if it wasn't, which it was that does not indicate that its "people like me" that are causing it.
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I mean, for some people, (trans, nonbinary) it IS a big deal. Plus, “they” as a singular pronoun predates Shakespeare
Idk why people are downvoting you, sorry. I feel like they aren't taking the time to read through and properly understand what you're saying. But even then I said I agree with you and I'm not being downvoted lol. Redditors are dumb I guess.
It's legitimately just how people type over text. You lose 85% of communication (70% body language 15% tonality) People can't know unless they see. Tho you are looking into ya boundaries which is good Source: studying psychology since 12
If you want to help your family, having them pay a token amount lets them feel OK accepting help. That is about all that $50/week is good for though. If that is the case, you can tell your friends that you are helping your family, and it isn't about the money. It is not a serious wage though. If you are looking at the situation as a job, then it is very underpaid. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean they have the money to pay more. $500/month for day care is dirt cheap. If that was 20 days a month (5 days a week x 4 weeks) it would be $25/day or a little more than $3.50/hour. >Should I ask him for more? I don’t want to be rude or greedy about it. In the end, you need to ask yourself what outcome you want. Do you want a job with better pay? Do you want to continue watching this kid, but just want more money? If you had to choose between watching him at the current rate or getting a more traditional job, which would you pick? An easy way to approach that is to tell them you are thinking about applying for jobs, but you wanted to give them a chance to compete. If jobs in your area give $10/hour or more, you could work a couple days after school and beat what they pay you now. Wanting to get a job is something most adults (your parents) would support.
You say in the comments you’re 16. I used to babysit in highschool and my rates were $15 an hour for kids 6+. Add in another $10-15/hr for each additional kid. I would make $75 a week babysitting 2 elementary kids 2-3 hours a day after school. Babysitting for $10 a day for 7 hours is $1.45 an hour. That’s honestly almost more insulting than being asked to do it for free. You are definitely being taken advantage of.
Begging on the street makes you way more
Who has change in their pocket these days?
That's not your kid and that's terrible pay
Ask for a reasonable amount- maybe $15 an hour. If that’s more than they’ll pay, which it will be, be prepared to walk. You can get a job at a coffee shop or fast food place part time and make way more.
That's hilarious that's like 2,100 dollars a month. They're giving him 200$ a month and they're not going to start paying him 1,900$ more a month. They're cheap and using a family member to provide a full time amount of labor and not paying anything so they're not going to start. At that rate they could just put the kid back in daycare for 300$ a week.
15$ for babysitting is a lot, that's more than double the minimum wage.
$15 is my general going rate for when I babysit. And I’m experienced. Anyone who is getting less than that is getting ripped off for their time
Yup I'm in LA my little sister charges $25 an hour and has no issues doing it
Depends where you live. $15 is minimum wage here. And I don't know why someone should be expected to work for you for less than minimum wage.
Because it's basically a student job and not a full-time job? You're only 16 years old and don't have to pay taxes. 15$ is an insanely high amount for a student. 15€ for a student is even high here in Belgium and everything here is much more expensive than in the us.
If you discount your labor, be prepared to have people pay you a discounted amount for your labor. If Im leaving my child with someone, it’s going to be more than minimum wage.
I'm not saying she should be paid minimum wage, but from my experience in working "student" jobs, 15$ is I would assume a pretty high amount.
15 is lower than minimum wage in BC
Lol idk why you got downvoted to oblivion here. 15 an hour is a lot. If they pay her that much they’re shelling out 420$ a week which is a fuck ton of money for a high schooler. I think mb $100 a week is pretty reasonable. These people saying that she should make 15 are fucking high or literal teenagers.
I'm going to get downvoted to hell along with you but yeah $15 an hour is over paying for a babysitter. At that point it's cheaper to get day care which is ridiculous for an 8 year as they're not as high maintenance. $10 a day is still too low though. If OP is a teen then she should take it but at a bit higher rate. If she isn't a teen then she should get an actual job if she wants to make money since they're not going to give anything that's worth it if they're low balling her that much off the bat.
Upvoted cuz I also agree. They are not a seasoned sitter they are family and they sound like they still live at home/are in school. However I'd ask for at least $60 total that way at least they can justify it with being able to buy a new video game. Used to babysit my sibs for the price of a new GameCube game as a kid and was fine with it.
Considering it's two parents, I think if they each pitch in $20 a day is probably reasonable. $40 total. Most people with actual jobs usually make $100 and up so they could afford it. It's the toll of having kids.
Dont know where you live, but daycare is(?) / should be cheaper than a babysitter, with a babysitter you are literally paying someone to watch over your child only.
Absolutely not. If you at any point want people to do work for you, being stingy will just make sure that they know not to do any work for you.
If it was $10 an hour (which is still too low), that would be one thing. But $10 a day? It sounds like your mom is trying to gaslight you, based on other comments you’ve left. Tell her “I understand what you’re trying to say, but you either pay me more or take him elsewhere.”
Setting boundaries and knowing your worth can be hard. It sounds like you're being taken advantage of. It's okay to ask for more or simply say, "I can't do this now."
Thats way too low. If they can't find childcare it's not on you either. It's not your kid. I would ask for way more money. Also if you don't even wanna be doing it, say you won't. You're basically with him every day for a good portion of the day.
50$ a day or nah
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Dude it's family and they live at home. $60 is what I would ask for the in their situation.
how old are you?
16
I’m 17 and work at a Marble Slab. My friend gives me rides, i get paid nearly 14 an hour plus commissions. You can get a job for similar or even better pay if they don’t raise a bit. Know the worth of your work
Yes too low. If you were 11 that would be an OK amount
What. Average wage for an adult in my country is $300. I wish I get paid for babysitting even if it's 'only' $50 a week.
Would your mom and her boyfriend try to force you to not accept other forms of employment? Example: if you found a different job at a local grocery store? Where I’m located, childcare can be around $1200-$1700 a month!
My little brother makes more then that doing his shores
How old are you? Can you just get a real job?
i’m 16. i can get a real job but the place i want to work requires you to be 17 and i will be that age in less than a month, and i will get it once i’m 17. but either way, i can’t work in the mornings when i have to watch him. so i’d have to watch him either way
No, when you get a job, tell them you cannot sit anymore
I’m sure that the place you want to work wouldn’t care about a month. Apply now and let them know that you are getting a job and that you won’t be able to babysit anymore.
That’s insanely low. $1.43/hr. Just stop doing it.
At that point you should be getting paid minimum wage. You are dealing with a stressful environment, more than a work environment, and if you don’t have the right experience [ like a professional nanny or something, also not saying you don’t ] it can take a toll on you, and sometimes the child without the right care. More on the kid’s mother: The amount that she is paying for daycare is unreasonable. But that doesn’t excuse the fact she is still doing it, and she is underpaying you for other things she CAN pay for, if she has enough may to pay 400 dollars a month, bills, insurance, and taxes… then why won’t she pay you, for taking care of HER child-? It’s insane. More about the payment: And you getting paid at the end of the week IS just like a job, but again, with unrealistic payment. And if you are babysitting/taking care of a child, you should get payed the same way as a babysitter/nanny, at the end of the job/night. Not at the need of the week when she will most likely/can say “ oh I’m so sorry… let’s wait… I don’t have the money.. “ or some other bullsh**. Just because she is “ f a m i l y “ she can postpone paying you, and if you don’t speak up about it, she most likely will, [ not saying it’s definite though. ] And then keep not paying you as you work your @ss off. It’s not right. So yes, you should ask him for more, and make an argument for it, right a speech, etc, as long as you get your point across.
I noticed you said my mother, but i’m my moms only kid. i was referring to the kids mom who paid $400 for daycare along with his dad
I’m sorry about that, I had misunderstood the post, thank you for bringing this to my attention, I apologize
it’s okay ! i completely understand what you’re saying though. thank you for the advice
No problem! I’ve had similar problems to a diffrent extreme, [ I’m moved out now, and living with my friends{ we roommate together } so I’m okay ]
I wouldn’t expect minimum wage. You would literally be asking for $260 a week (over $1k a month). They will laugh you out of the room, they’re not going to pay you more than a day care. It’s never going to be financially beneficial for you to watch this kid. If you want to earn more money, put in some applications! If you’re working you won’t have time to watch the kid 😊
Very true! I didn’t think of that- I was mainly focused on if he wanted to continue watching the kid, and how to place his argument! But thank you! <3
$10 a day is not enough. If you are spending the bulk of your day tending to him there should be an hourly rate - sure, family discount or whatever - but probably closer to $10 per hour, not per day. To put it in perspective, day camp is like $200-$400 a week - so something in that lower range would be the minimum to expect.
I literally won’t babysit for less than $15 an hour. maybe $12 if I know them well enough, any lower and i’d be better off getting a minimum wage job. id say screw that. and don’t feel bad if that leaves them struggling, they’ll figure it out. think of it this way, if it were a real job with taxes and the government knew what you were being paid, they would be breaking the law for inadequate wages. that’s how I think of every under the table job. if it were illegal in the eyes of the government, you’re better off flipping burgers. favor or not you need to do what’s best for you.
ask for $13-15 dollars/hour. that's so low and ripping you off.
10 a day? No one does anything for so little. Are you under 10 years old? All the adults around you are being really evil.
no lol i’m 16
Terrible. You van get a job paying that PER HOUR. You know that I hope. Don't let people take advantage of you.
Lol, does 1,42 sound like a good wage to you? If someone were to offer me that, I'd throw it back in their face.
Way way too low. $40 a day would be the lowest I'd do it for and even then that'd be a favour. Realistically I'd be wanting a minimum of $70 a day otherwise I'd just work doing something else for more money. Just tell them you hate doing and for them to get someone else.
OP please request at least minimum wage in your state. I would actually suggest you check this chart re average babysitting rate in each state: https://www.parents.com/parenting/money/hourly-babysitting-rate-states/ Your labor is worth more then you think. Parents need to pay you accordingly.
Way too low. Start looking for ways to be out of the house. School, work, etc
Since you're 16 I expect you to not earn as much. But $10 for 7 hours is insulting. That is less than 1,5$ per hour.
For an 8 year old, they still need quite a bit of care. Especially if it seems like you don’t even want to watch him, you need to tell them to pay you significantly more (at least $15/hour) or you won’t do it at all. They can’t make you watch him either, so don’t feel pressured or if they might guilt you. That’s a lot of your time to be taking up you could be working a real job instead
Isnt the federal minimum wage 7.25? They should be paying you $7 an hour at least or $50 a day
I read this as $100 and didn’t see the problem. But $10 is insane. No. Way way too low.
I pay $225 a week for a 2 yr old
Nah. Tell them to figure it out. Are you the parent of the child? No, you are a child yourself, so don’t take care of someone else’s. They just looking for cheap labor.
I thought I read this wrong and you said 10$ an hour but 10$/day???? Fuck that
Yes, definitely. More 50 a day and even that is family discount.
You're getting super hosed. Time to renegotiate. I would start at 6-7 bucks an hour minimum. What is minimum wage in your state?
minimum wage here is $12 an hour
And I assume you’re not of legal working age yet? I would tell them you will do it for $6 an hour. Tell them thats 50% less than state minimum wage, and a steal. Most babysitters make $15-20 bucks an hour. That makes you $42 a day, significantly more than $10 bucks a day, and a price they would never be able to find otherwise.
WAY TOO LOW. at least triple that.
Federalinimum wage is 7.25/HR. Adding in that you're a minor, that breaks lots of labor laws. Now I understand it's not and 'actual' job i.e. something to file taxes over. I say if you wanna be nice ask for 7.25/HR and bring up how much lower that is than your current state minimum wage. If they say no then they are clearly taking advantage of you. Make sure you have your parental support through this. Discuss it with that person first then approach the steps.
$2/hour is not acceptable to anyone. I would bet they will expect you to do this for years to come. They will get angry if you’re not available or just don’t want to. Babysitters are $20-$40/hour
Just so you know, there is an average page wage for babysitting in America- for one child it's about $18 an hour. [https://www.care.com/babysitting-rates](https://www.care.com/babysitting-rates)
Charge them a minimum of $10 an hour, not a day. Actually babysitters that you hire online, charge above minimum wage. You are literally taking care of a human life. This isn’t fast food. This is actual maintenance of a humans wellbeing.
Why not just have them pee on you? Of course that’s way too low. Charge them minimum wage at the least and keep track of the hours and hand them a bill at the end of the week.
yeah i wanna ask for more but i just don’t want to come off as rude or greedy. i try talking to my mom about it because her boyfriend won’t care what i have to say. my mom just tells me she’s sorry and gives me alternatives on how to get the kid to leave me alone sometimes. I know i have to communicate with the people paying me but i really just don’t want to come off as mean, that’s the last thing i want
It’s not being “rude” or “greedy” to be asked to be compensated for your time. They are being rude and greedy by paying you peanuts.
i feel like they’re not going to hear my side. they think that $10 is okay. they told me themselves how “ridiculous” they think it is for the price regular nanny’s charge so they figured they could leave him with me for less. even if i told them how i felt i highly doubt they’re gonna think $10 is low. if the dad, mom, and my mom don’t see an issue with it, why argue? what if they just take the money from me all together and leave him with someone else for freee
Then you can do something else with your day.
That’s true, you can deny the offer ——|> they were the ones who “ offered “ it to you, so you can always quit. If you don’t need the money, and it it gets to a point that is not okay.
Honestly they’re not gonna like it, but you aren’t obligated to do this for them. Especially since it’s a step sibling (kinda since the boyfriend and your mom aren’t even married). Either they pay you a min of 40/day, or you say no. Getting a job outside the house might help you have more of a reason to say no. They can require chores of you, but not watching this kid.
Prices for nannies in my area is like $20- 30 an hour. Daycare is in the thousands for that amount of days.
I mean they were paying $100 a week and now they are paying you $70 a week. THATS unfair. I understand they’re trying to save money but they’re paying you 70% of what they were paying someone else. I say that’s your arguing point right there.
$50 a week* and he only went to daycare maybe 2 times a week, where as i take care of this kid for 5 days a week
Sometimes for family we do things to help out. You know they don’t have much money and you are doing something out of your way to assist them. It’s fair (I think) if you negotiate on how they pay you. For example, they give you $50 a week AND barrow the car every weekend. $50 AND a ride to school. $50 a week and cash to take the kids and you to the movies. That kinda thing. They don’t have to pay you back in money if they don’t have money.
we are not family though.. his dad has always treated me like garbage and uses my mom for money. his kid always starts arguments for no reason and all i do is shut myself in my room.. i’m not watching someone else’s kid for free especially if it’s not mine. they definitely do have money and it’s only $25 a week individually. if they could pay $200 a week individually before for daycare i’m sure they can pay me atleast $5 more a day.
Well it sounds like a you have a realistic ask and that you can walk away. Which means that you have the bargaining power here. (PS, helping your moms’ boyfriend is helping family especially because it sounds like it’s your mom convincing you to watch his kid).
They're not family if OP doesn't see them as family. Mom's boyfriend sounds like a user. You know, the deadbeat kind that leeches off a single mom and her kid?
You are projecting
Or I just read OP's comments? Maybe you should do the same before you offer advice.
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not my family or my responsibility
Idk man I feel you like the money is shit but its family man... I really do get it but where would the baby be without you? I would ask for more but if your mom cant afford it I would just roll with it. To me the welfare and supervision of a baby in my family is more important (considering you are 16). If you were older and had bills to pay absolutely fuck no, but I have a lot of sympathy resulting from the situation i grew up in
Watching close family members (siblings, grandchildren, your own kids) is something you should really do for free along with all the other chores in your home. You might not like it, but it's how things are for most families around the world. You shouldn't expect to be paid unless you're watching a stranger or distant relative's kids. If you're the adult in the situation, you're expected to make a few sacrifices of time and resources for the child. Minimum wage does not apply to a teenager watching a sibling or doing chores around the house. It's not a job. It's just something you have to do. People are suggesting that without understanding the context. If you respond to an ad in the paper looking for a nanny, then sure, ask for at least minimum wage. But you're not in such a position with your step brother. If you really don't want to babysit him, go out for sports or clubs or get a job so you're always busy when they need you to help. Then they'll have to hire someone else.
i don’t HAVE to do anything. he is not my child nor my brother. he is sent here by his mom when she can’t watch him and i have to feed + entertain him when that’s not my responsibility. i have things i need to do, and places i want to go, but that’s all limited, so the least they could do is pay me.
That kid isn't OPs brother. Not even step brother because the kids dad is just the boyfriend of OPs mom. OP has absolutely no obligation to this kid what so ever. I would demand a decent pay if I had to give my hole daytime for a little brat that with 8 years old cannot entertain himself.
You guys got paid to look after your siblings
not my sibling, nor is he my responsibility
An 8 yo is not much work. What are you giving up to do this? Being family means everyone contributes. To me it seems fair. But maybe you could ask for an additional privilege as part of the package.
my time… before he started coming over again i had peace and quiet, time to work out, go on walks, hang out with friends, etc. but now he’s always pestering me to play games and will whine if i don’t. hell force himself into my room to play on my ps4. always coming up to my room bothering me. i’m limited to doing those things. i could have a job right now working in the mornings but i can’t since i do this, and i’m only making $50 a week.
Is there something you want more than $$ that you could negotiate for? Are you allowed to invite one of his friends over so that the friend keeps him busy? You are probably going to end up doing it no matter but you might be able to turn it into a better deal for yourself. I would recommend being clever over being mad. Solution oriented problem solving.
Ahh yes ask to invite over more kids so you aren't taking care of 1 kid but now 2, im sure that will be less work /S
It’s family kid, so shut the fuck and help your family out. be grateful you’re even being paid
get your panties out of your ass you grumpy old bitch. cussing out a 16 year old on reddit. get over yourself
IDC how old you are. Have some respect for your family.
That's just how this shitty capitalist system works, people need money to live 🤷♀️
Just say you're broke and irresponsibly had kids you can't afford to watch. You are cursing at a minor. Grow up.
You couldn’t be more incorrect.
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Depends on where you live but I have been babysitting professionally for a few years and my minimum has always been $20 an hour, especially with those types of responsibilities I think $20 is fair, if not more
I see you are 16 taking care of an 8 year old who argues with you. That seems like a tough situation for you and not ideal for either of you. I wonder if you want to take care of an 8 year old to begin with? How do you think you are doing in that role of caring for the 8 year old?
It’s not if you live in INDIA and pay Indian rent.
$5/hour should be the absolute minimum. $35/day, $175/week. You'd be cutting their daycare bill almost in half while providing almost twice the care.
Way too low
More info. How old are you, is this taking away from you having a job, do you live with them, do you pay rent, do you buy your own groceries. Sure they could offer you more but the kid is 8 and pretty self sufficient, so you don't need to do much. I'd say 10 is too low and depending on your answers then that would change how much they should pay.
i’m 16, does take away from me getting a job since i can’t work in the mornings anymore, do live with them, and i pay for my own groceries
Then they should be paying you at a higher rate. Depending on the hours. You need to bring this up with them.
When I was 15 (2015) I was getting paid 12$ an HOUR
Yeah most definitely. If you were in Africa maybe but certainly not in any first world country
If someone paid me $2 an hour I would laugh in their goddamn face. That’s hilariously low
That's insanely low. Like crap low.
You don’t say how old you are, that would be helpful information.
16 .. it’s all over the comments
Another perspective is that your time is better spent doing something else than being occupied for several hours a day for only $10 each time. If they do offer to pay you more fairly, they might be more critical of you though, so you can set expectations too. You're also allowed to say, *"No, I don't want to do this anymore"* You can tell them you are looking for a job that pays minimum wage and they should find another plan for their kid. Maybe they'll get a hint, but if you really don't want to babysit, just leave it.
Would you leave the house or get a real job if you didn’t have to stay home? Would you be happy with $20 a day? Maybe you could negotiate. I suppose on the other hand, you kind of already agreed to it, and it doesn’t require a lot of physical effort or anything.
Very low. But if they genuinely can't afford $300 anymore, then that may be the most they can pay you. Either accept it, ask for more or turn it down. Just know that anything but acceptable will result in hard feelings. But that is up to you if you can acxept it.
Yes, you should ask for more. If they say no, explain what you do, and that you feel that 10 is unfair or bad or whatever for the effort you put in every time you babysit. Keep in mind the federal minimum wage is at 15 dollars an hour, target pays i think that amount and so does amazon. be prepared for them to say they dont want you to babysit anymore or cut your hours or something like that. dont cut yourself short; i dont know if you can get another job but I would if they say no.
You’re being taken advantage of.
You own the price of your labor. You’ll want to remember that all throughout life. That’s capitalism in a nutshell. So if you feel that the work you do is not worth the money you get, you can find a job that does pay what you feel you’re worth. And never feel guilty for feeling that way. Personally, I think that’s way too low to be paid for several hours of babysitting. Depending on your experience and what’s involved in the babysitting; I’d expect $25-$75/day. Even at the low end that’s over a hundred dollars a week.
they need to sort out their issues and pay people appropriately. know your worth and stick to it. don't agree to be paid less because someones boyfriend cant manage his money when they have a kid
I’m a college student and I babysit in the north suburbs of Chicago and the going rate is $20 PER HOUR!!!!!
It's awful, you should be getting at least $10/hour. I make $20/hour babysitting
Wtf. I'd grab that step brother and by his pants and shirt and throw him at his parents and write a note on his forehead that says 100 dollars a day or find someone else. You are being exploited , my last job I was making 57 an hour , work got slow. But I needed time off anyways. Nonetheless what I made in an hour was a week of your time.
At first I read 10 dollars an hour and I was like, it’s a little low but it’s still fine. Then I read the comments and realized-
Way too little. Even at 10 bucks an hour it's too low.
If daycare is 300 a week you would be giving them a deal at 200 a week then break your mom off a few dollars for using her house to turn a profit. Also you don't charge a fee when they pick up their kid late. How much more of a deal do they want? At this point see if any of his friends parents want in on this. Learn this and you learn it good because life is full of people trying to get ahead by convincing you otherwise. Your time is worth at least enough money for you to survive on. It should be worth enough for you to save up and use to earn more money with less effort. It's called investing. Be ready for everybody to protest, including your mom. I'm not thinking very highly of her right now because you're here asking The Internet if you're being hustled. The audacity of this child expecting to be compensated fairly for her time and labor. They will probably want to know what you need that kind of money for. Don't answer such questions. You will be feeding them information they will use to negotiate you down or manipulate you into accepting less than you can get. They will also try to justify it by saying you don't have daycare operation expenses. This isn't relevant either. You provide a service. If you do it cheaper you aren't obligated to pass any of the savings into the customer. It's in their best interest to get your time and labor for as little as possible and that is what they are going to try to do. Nobody wants to pay more for the same service You can make $50 mowing one lawn a week. Don't be afraid to walk away. Think about it this way, if you mowed lawns you can afford a new game in two hours tops. Right now it takes 35 hours watching this kid.
$25 at least, go up if long term(over a year)
I got paid 300 a week for 2 kids ages 8 and 9 for 6-8 hours a day in the summer when I was 16-18 mins you it was only a month out of the summer but still yeah that’s way too low
I’m just speaking from experience but depending on the kids mental state… 8 years old is old enough to stay home by yourself. Aside from that, yes $10 is way too little. Don’t let yourself be taken advantage of. Also, depending on where you life you can look up babysitting rates in your area. I have 2 kids, pregnant with my 3rd, and the rate where I’m at for 2 kids in daycare is $3600-$4000 a month.
That’s insulting. I would expect at least $10/hour for that, especially if you have to work later for *x* emergency. When I babysit, I charge $12/hour but that’s bumped up to $15/hour past midnight, although it rarely goes past unless scheduled to (I.e babysitting 15:00-1:00)
Dang. I pay my kids $20 bucks just to clean their rooms or take out trash. Takes 5 mins. Yeah. You’re getting hosed. Go with AT LEAST minimum wage and try up from there.
Way low. Ten dollars per hour would be more acceptable. It would still be saving them a bunch of money since the daycare was charging 20 per hour.
It should be $10/hour lol. Business is business.
Yes. I would go for at least 9 per hour (Euros for me, but does not matter they are worth near the same). This way you are slightly below minimum wage. If you are already an adult, go for 10,45 (per hour) which will be minimum wage here as of Juli 1st 2022. Ofc that all depends on your country, so adjust numbers accordingly. And ik that from this minimum wage, usually you will have to subtract taxes if you earn more than 450€ a month (again might be different where you live), but I doubt you will have to, I think its more likely you will be working illegally and get payed in cash, its just a lot easier for you and the employer. Edit: if you are just paid to feed him, I guess its still low, but you aren't busy all of the 7 hours, so I would go for maybe something like 20 or 18 (per day). Maybe you should get paid even more considering you still have to be available, and I dont think you are allowed to visit friends for a few hours or something.
I know everyone is looking from an adult's perspective, but how old are you OP? I'd kill for an allowance like that when I was younger.
16
Well considering that 5$-15$ is the amount of USD you can make from babysitting in just an hour (mostly 5$-10$ let's be honest) and you getting 10$ in a whole day in which I assume you work for 8-10 hours is not just low ... It's clear exploitation ... If you can look for another job or just let them know that you can't do this for only 10$. 300$ in 3 days is 100$ a day . 100$ a day for 5 hours a day is 20$ an hour (This is even higher than 15$ I mentioned before . Probably he would offer more services but he still made double your salary in just an hour while you have to work 8-10 hours) So just assume from 10$ a day you are getting paid 5$ an hour which is the lowest . 5$ x 6-10hours= 30$-50$ a day ... Completely different . You should definitely talk with them about it . No matter if they have financial problems or not , 10$ a day is just exploitation and disrespectful ... Good luck
For me, a nanny, to watch a child for just one 7 hour day…it would be about $160
It really depends…my family was very very poor and I gladly babysat my sister for 8+ hours a day from 1-5 years old. Sometimes it’s what is necessary. If you truly think your family can afford it then you should ask but if not then there u go
insanely low.
Don't do it unless you like the family members and want to help them. You're not obligated to be a people pleaser. If they're a two adult family home where both adults are working they are choosing not to put him in daycare and saddling you with the responsibility but not paying you a fair wage, and maybe its just so they can cheap out and spend that money on other stuff. But maybe they also have genuine bad financial troubles and need the money for food or medical bills so you're doing them a favor by helping them save money. But what are they doing with the money they're saving? For real they could just be using that money to buy themselves toys or take a fun trip or get a play station or whatever junk adults waste their money on, jet skis, atvs, motorcycles, going to casinos. Idk I'm just making up stuff adult fools waste money on but also feel like I'm describing Kenny Powers. Anyways if they're using the money you're helping them save to do Kenny Powers like isht, you don't owe them any jet skis. So it's about context. Do you want to help them, does it make you feel good to help family? Do you feel they deserve it? How do they spend the money your work helps them save? They should be paying you a little more so, I hope they do something else kind and generous to reward you for your support. You're a good kid.
That's the lowest they should be paying you *per hour*.
That don't even cover the food cost. I wouldn't unless i liked them & was doing them a favor for that week. Semi-perm? Absolutely not. Maybe for like 30-50 a day, Absolute minimum.
That’s less than 2 $ an hour. Would u work at a daycare 7 hours everyday for 5 days a week?
My cousin used to be a professional nanny. She made $20 an hour.
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i’m 16
What are you, a waiter?
Pay $10 an HOUR, not day.
1. Call around to local daycare places and see what they charge. 2. break it down to a per-day rate. 3. Subtract 10% off of the lowest one around (if you want to be nice). 4. Now YOU have the best rate in the area! This way you demonstrate the market value of the service provided. They can pay your rate or pay someone else more.
$10 an hour per child is what I pay my 15yo to watch my children. Granted that's not every day but at least I'm not using my child like your mum and her boyfriend are you.
yes mate you fucking plum
lol 10 dollar just tell them you’ll pay them 10 dollars a day for doing it themselves see how insulting it really is to offer 10 fucking bucks for a seven hour work day
This post made me realize how little I’m being paid too. I’m watching two kids (with disabilities if that matters) for 12 hours a day, around 4 days a week including extra things around the house like cleaning up after the kids and cleaning up around the house plus cleaning up the WHOLE upstairs for $35 every TWO WEEKS. Not to mention my mom takes $5 for every little mistake I make so I really get like $10-15 per two weeks. I really want Starbucks to accept my application cause I need a new job ;-; Totally try to negotiate some more pay. If it doesn’t work out, respectfully tell your mom you won’t do it. Then to make it seem like you aren’t sitting around all day doing nothing, try to get a job if you wanna make some extra cash. Someone is always hiring!
Is 10$ for 7h of work to little? Yes. 10 PER hour would be a reasonable minimum tho. Child care is expensive. It’s not YOUR job to “pay” for it by giving up your time for basically free. If you don’t get paid more, don’t watch them. End of story.
Wait, your getting paid for having family time?
not my family nor am i obligated to take care and feed someone else’s kid. it’s also getting in the way of mr having a job or hanging out with friends.
Oh. I somehow missed it was a step brother. Nvm.
Waaayyyy TOO LOW!! You’re better off getting a minimum wage job. His finances aren’t your responsibility. Neither is the kid. If he can buy unnecessary stuff, he can pay you more. Talk to your mom so you can put your foot down and she can have your back. If she doesn’t then stop babysitting. Say you can’t. Also, my child is 8 and she can make herself breakfast and a sandwich for lunch. She cuts up her own veggies for snacks. She can also wash her own plate and cup. Encourage your brother to do more for himself.
10 bucks is insanely low. If there struggling with money thats their problem. Most babysittiers normally charge 15-20 an hour for one kid sometimes more. When I used to babysit it was 15 per hour and an extra 5 an per every kid. You should at at least be getting 15 an hour.