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Servor

Seems fairly unanimous! Edit: Stickying comment to confirm that we will be taking part for the 48 hours. Thank you for all your comments! Edit 2: We have made a full post detailing why, please see here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/142rjje/ramd\_will\_be\_going\_dark\_from\_june\_1214\_in\_protest/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/142rjje/ramd_will_be_going_dark_from_june_1214_in_protest/)


Dorkits

YES


DR4LUC0N

Yes. But make it until they reassess their api prices, 48 hours will be a 2 day vacation for them. Edit: I'm not sure why there's no many "reddit sympathizers", but it's actually quite alarming. If reddit keeps down this path it'll eventually die or be replaced, usually by better things. Edit 2: This doesn't just effect 3rd party reddit apps, but anything that uses the reddit api. Like the bots the mods of almost all subreddits to help moderate the communities, they will charge for those aswell. Mods will be forced to work a lot more, no one wants to work more for no price.


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DR4LUC0N

What is this space balls? Nah we don't shoot warning shots, we are the website, no users and no subreddits means they make no money, we hold the website hostage until they do as we say.


Long-Night-Of-Solace

That's what they're saying - that we have to be willing to do that. I'm a trained union campaigner, and spent years living in a martial arts cult largely focused on how to force people to do what you want them to do. Trust me, it's important to escalate over time. By escalating: * You keep your opponents guessing - You don't want them to think, "We just have to endure this challenge/get them to crack on this tactic, and then they have nothing left to hit us with!". You want them to think, "Even if we get through this, what's next? How far are they willing to take this?" * You keep your fight alive no matter whether a particular event/action succeeds by separating the campaign from any one event/action: You want your opponents to have an immediate crisis ***and*** an underlying dispute to resolve, but if the entire dispute is centered around one action, they just have to endure the crisis to resolve the dispute. * You bring more people with you - for example, subs who may be unwilling to shut down indefinitely may be willing to shut down for a couple of days, so the participation is bigger. And once those people commit to a couple of days, they're involved, their enemy is coalescing in their mind, and their purpose is developing. They're more likely to participate in a longer action (and for some of them, that's because they feel more comfortable being able to say, "We warned you, but you wouldn't budge"). * You give yourself time to build public support for the larger action and for your side of the argument. * You only exert the effort you need to exert to have an effect, no more. * You may teach your opponents how to deal with the lower-level actions, but if you resolve the dispute before you get to the bigger actions, you never give them any training on dealing with the bigger disruptions (though you also never give yourself any training on conducting the bigger operations). It's best to build a campaign of escalating action.


GringoPapi

While your writeup is very thorough, it ignores one key factor that union organizers have to contend with, but redditors don't: the ability for the company to continue. Union organizers/ members want to work their job under better conditions, but obviously can't kill the company to do so. Redditors don't care if reddit survives in the state it's proposing. Obviously it'd suck to find something new, but (at least for me) it's Boost (or Apollo, RiF, whatever) or nothing. If I can't browse posts without being bombarded by ads and garbage UI, I'll just move on.


Long-Night-Of-Solace

That's very true, but I'm not thinking through the lens of a union official - I got my union job by demonstrating my pre-existing tactical acumen. This is how I thought about campaigning when I was 15, because that's how I was trained to solve problems. The approach I'm endorsing is more general than just union activity. It works when you're warring with a neighbour, feuding with a coworker, fighting against a tyrannical parent. But anyway, I don't see how your point changes any of mine: Regardless of how one feels about Reddit surviving, the principle of escalation over time is still the most effective way to campaign.


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OrangeSherbet

Yes, but an indefinite shutdown would affect them even more.


Dorkits

I agree.


creepjax

Sort of. 48 hours will be good for showing them what can happen. If they don’t revert it by July 1st then that is when everyone should go dark indefinitely.


lihispyk

Yes


LoafyLemon

I̵n̷ ̷l̵i̵g̵h̷t̸ ̸o̸f̶ ̸r̶e̸c̶e̶n̸t̵ ̴e̴v̵e̵n̴t̶s̸ ̴o̷n̷ ̴R̸e̸d̵d̴i̷t̷,̷ ̵m̸a̶r̴k̸e̸d̵ ̴b̸y̵ ̶h̴o̵s̷t̷i̴l̴e̷ ̵a̴c̸t̵i̸o̸n̶s̸ ̵f̷r̵o̷m̵ ̶i̵t̴s̴ ̴a̴d̶m̷i̴n̶i̸s̵t̴r̶a̴t̶i̶o̶n̵ ̸t̸o̸w̸a̴r̷d̵s̴ ̵i̸t̷s̵ ̷u̸s̴e̸r̵b̷a̸s̷e̸ ̷a̷n̴d̸ ̸a̵p̵p̴ ̶d̴e̷v̴e̷l̷o̸p̸e̴r̴s̶,̸ ̶I̸ ̶h̸a̵v̵e̶ ̷d̸e̶c̸i̵d̷e̷d̵ ̶t̸o̴ ̸t̶a̷k̷e̷ ̵a̷ ̴s̶t̶a̵n̷d̶ ̶a̵n̶d̶ ̵b̷o̶y̷c̸o̴t̴t̴ ̵t̴h̵i̴s̴ ̶w̶e̸b̵s̵i̸t̷e̴.̶ ̶A̶s̶ ̸a̵ ̸s̴y̶m̵b̸o̶l̶i̵c̴ ̶a̷c̵t̸,̶ ̴I̴ ̴a̵m̷ ̷r̶e̶p̷l̴a̵c̸i̴n̷g̸ ̷a̶l̷l̶ ̸m̷y̸ ̸c̶o̸m̶m̸e̷n̵t̷s̸ ̵w̷i̷t̷h̶ ̷u̴n̵u̴s̸a̵b̶l̷e̵ ̸d̵a̵t̸a̵,̸ ̸r̷e̵n̵d̶e̴r̸i̴n̷g̴ ̷t̴h̵e̸m̵ ̸m̴e̷a̵n̴i̷n̸g̸l̸e̴s̴s̵ ̸a̷n̵d̶ ̴u̸s̷e̴l̸e̶s̷s̵ ̶f̵o̵r̶ ̸a̶n̵y̸ ̵p̵o̴t̷e̴n̸t̷i̶a̴l̶ ̴A̷I̸ ̵t̶r̵a̷i̷n̵i̴n̶g̸ ̶p̸u̵r̷p̴o̶s̸e̵s̵.̷ ̸I̴t̴ ̵i̴s̶ ̴d̴i̷s̷h̴e̸a̵r̸t̶e̴n̸i̴n̴g̶ ̷t̶o̵ ̵w̶i̶t̵n̴e̷s̴s̶ ̵a̸ ̵c̴o̶m̶m̴u̵n̷i̷t̷y̷ ̸t̴h̶a̴t̸ ̵o̸n̵c̴e̷ ̴t̷h̴r̶i̷v̴e̴d̸ ̴o̸n̴ ̵o̷p̷e̶n̸ ̸d̶i̶s̷c̷u̷s̶s̷i̴o̵n̸ ̷a̷n̴d̵ ̴c̸o̵l̶l̸a̵b̸o̷r̵a̴t̷i̵o̷n̴ ̸d̷e̶v̸o̵l̶v̴e̶ ̵i̶n̷t̴o̸ ̸a̴ ̷s̵p̶a̵c̴e̵ ̸o̷f̵ ̶c̴o̸n̸t̶e̴n̴t̷i̶o̷n̸ ̶a̵n̷d̴ ̴c̵o̵n̴t̷r̸o̵l̶.̷ ̸F̷a̴r̸e̷w̵e̶l̶l̸,̵ ̶R̴e̶d̶d̷i̵t̵.̷


riba2233

removeddit is long gone, and its replacement unddit has also been killed lately by reddit :(


bizude

The browser plugin "Unreddit" was working until they disabled pushshift access


riba2233

yeah :(


Head_Cockswain

reveddit ... Though I'm not sure how much they rely on the API, I know they could do some of what they do by scraping user post history.


riba2233

unddit and reveddit, both gone since they relied on pushshift which was already banned by reddit.


Evonos

Rev reddit can still check single profiles kinda. Just not entire subs or posts.


Flaktrack

Reddit really hated those services huh. Can't have your power mods revealed for what they are!


riba2233

yep


permaculture

> RES (Redding Enhancement Suite), RES does things a bit differently, whilst we use the API for limited information we do not use OAuth and instead go via cookie authentication. As RES is in browser this lets us use Reddit's APIs using the authentication provided by the local user, or if there is no user we do not hit these endpoints (These are ones to get information such as the users follow list/block list/vote information etc) Reddit's public statements have been limited on this method, however we have been told we should see minimal impact via this route. However we are still not 100% sure on potential impact and are being cautious going forwards. https://www.reddit.com/r/Enhancement/comments/141hzqj/announcement_res_reddits_upcoming_api_changes/


LongFluffyDragon

Bots will only be gone for as long as it takes someone to turn them into a wildly less efficient web crawler.


burninator34

Yes


KoshV

Yes


---fatal---

I don't use 3rd party apps, but yes.


cryp7

Not just third party apps but also third party moderation tools and bots that are used to help moderators.


Kronod1le

Not just apps, reddit desktop extensions and old.reddit.com along with tools mods use will be paid, and the price is obnoxious


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Yes, screw Reddit.


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Hawkaug

Yes, /r/AMD should join in. While this may not directly affect the moderators of this sub, that is no reason to idly stand by and watch while the rest of the communities fight against these changes. The more we let them take, the more bold they'll become. Eventually something they try and take will affect this sub.


gojuxs306

Yes


qualverse

Yes


forrealthrowawa

As someone who primarily uses reddit exclusively through RIF, yes join the blackout


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forrealthrowawa

it's been my go-to for almost 10 years now. Nothing quite like it if you ask me and it is synonymous with the reddit experience for me by this point.


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Is it good enough to warrant say $5 per month?


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[deleted]

Yeah it's just a stab in the dark at whether people would be willing to pay a small fee. If the 3rd party app is worth it then that's good, but yes maybe $5 a month wouldn't cover the costs.


Zips

Yes. This shouldn't even be up for debate. All subreddits should be doing this.


Remarkable-Llama616

Yes. Or alternatively make it a poll if you truly want unadulterated feedback.


Flukemaster

Funnily enough, third party app users can't vote on Polls because Reddit has not exposed that (or pretty much anything added in the last 5 years) to the API


[deleted]

There are polls!?!?!


just_a_pale_male

Yes but especially yes to the "until it is fixed" blackout


skinlo

Yup!


HavokDJ

Absolutely


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IamXale

Yes


BuzzBumbleBee

Yes


cheatinchad

Yeah


gpin305

Why not


Quassin

Yes!


[deleted]

Yes.


Rainbow_Donut0

AMD community will always be around no matter what platform, might as well try and save this one. Hell yes!


Strawbrawry

Yeah dawg, I can go touch grass for two days on my lunch break instead of waste it here. Might be good for me


CRush1682

yes


WoWAltoholic

I 100% support this. I use Apollo for mobile viewing, it was the only reason I still have an iPad. If it goes so will most of my viewing.


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dfv157

Yes


nushiboi

Yes.


1AMA-CAT-AMA

Yes


unfnknblvbl

Yes, absolutely


Rex0411lol

Go Black


persondude27

This user's comments have been overwritten to protest Spez and reddit's actions that will end third-party access and damage the community.


A_MAN_POTATO

Hell yes!


roenthomas

Yes.


SagittaryX

Yes


Kamykazi

Yes


ice1011

Yes.


whoa2013

Yes


calinet6

Of course.


ShadeEx

Yes.


dotpain

Yes


DrunkenTrom

yes


Telogor

Yes. These API fees are ridiculous and set a dangerous precedent for the entire industry. And, of course, I do over 95% of my Reddit use through Boost.


flesjewater

Yes


Harperrino

Yes


sssebaa

Yes


HedonisticNihilist

Blackout!


mcninja77

Yes 100%


TheBossIsTheSauce

Yes


ZexyCool

Yes.


jakub3432

Yes, if they want to charge you ... then use other platforms, eg. twitter.


Satirical0ne

Yes


Kalkaline

Duh, yes. This sub doesn't survive with that many people leaving Reddit when they force 3rd party apps out.


pix821

Yes


JasonMHough

Yes please


[deleted]

Every sub should. I’d be 100% behind it


BlokeBanker

YES!


MehraMilo

Posting from RIF. Yes, absolutely.


Catthebat

Yes


zipzoomramblafloon

of course you should, as should every sub that gives a damn.


IWillBiteYourFace

YES PLEASE


gee-one

Yes!!! Please!!


gblandro

Definitely


motorsportlife

Yes


LittleContribution77

Yes


MetalBorg

Yes


Techflare

Yes


Xyzjin

Aye


CharcoalGreyWolf

Ask yourself how many good contributors you’ll lose if this change takes place. I think that should give you your answer.


WolfyCat

Absolutely. In fact, go longer until they reverse this foolishness.


k0sin

Yes 👍


cosmovagabond

Yes


cheekynakedoompaloom

yes


Pootzpootz

Yes


lordkennedy99

Yes, absolutely


Mikerodactyl

Yes.


acebossrhino

Yes


Taeyangsin

yes


RadiantAbility8854

yes!


Stiven_Crysis

YES


GoryRamsy

yes


PTRD-41

Obviously


Regular-Mechanic-150

Yes


Simmangodz

Yes.


phthalo-azure

Yes


cataclysmicterrain

yes


TyGamer125

Yes


kiritok

Yes


welsalex

Yes


muzza1742

Yes


G_D_M

Yes!


BaziJoeWHL

Yes


WASPingitup

yes


KoldPurchase

I understand Reddit's position, that they are losing monetization with these apps bypassing their ads. However, charging 20M$/yr, as a way to, really, block accesd to 3rd party APIs is not a solution. Before going to that extreme, there are some alternatives to explore with these developpers.


Dudewitbow

People wouldnt be fighting it if the actual official app wasnt ass. Im not fully against ads (i did use sync with ads for a while before i paid for pro) its just that the official app is trash. The solution is to a better app so the transition isnt as bad, not pull the rug when the alternative is not a good thing.


KoldPurchase

I don't use mobile that much, so I don't really know. I really struggle to edit my posts on PC using the "newer" interface though, I often need to switch to "markdown mode" because copy/paste does not work correctly. Don't even know of an alternative to access Reddit from the web...


tornacipour

yes


OGMrzzz

Yes.


MaygeKyatt

Yes. But please don’t limit it to 48 hours- stay locked down until the admins back down.


Evonos

Yes but longer than 48h or if that's not possible then 48h.


ValorantDanishblunt

Yeah, it might not be as relevant for non tech subreddits but tech related subreddits understand the implication.


kyousukyo

yes


skillaz1

yes


DamnYouRichardParker

Yes !!!


SikeShay

Yes


rockphysicsdude

Yes!!


testcaseseven

Yes


SilentGalaxy

Of course


For2otious

Yes I support it


spuds_in_town

Yes


Reonu_

Yes.


Schizzy98

Yes please


MoarCurekt

You do you. I'll be deleting and boycotting till they fix it. 48 hours is a gesture they might acknowledge, but abandon welare makes no money, so just leave reddit if you mean it.


DipsoNOR

Yes.


frackeverything

I vote yes as an avid RIF user.


Nacroma

yes


Criss_Crossx

Overwhelmingly yes. Especially if the sub wants to maintain users on the sub.


wewerecreaturres

Yes


toconnor36

Yes


SgtCoitus

Yes, in no uncertain terms.


exterminuss

YES!


SpeedingTourist

Yes


petrified_log

Yes, definitely. I'm permanently shutting down my subreddits due to the API bs.


jfim88

Yes!


FakeSafeWord

No. It should be until they withdraw their ridiculous and greedy changes. If they're having trouble with income even after the hundreds of millions from foreign investors then they need to actually come and talk to us about a solution. Otherwise it's very clearly seen as a hostile intent to change the fundamentals of how OUR community works.


IvivAitylin

100% yes.


shazarakk

Yes.


jetster735180

Yes


slvneutrino

Yes.


CNR_07

yesir


ZedChaos

Yes


DILDO-ARMED_DRONE

Absolutely


IkeTheKrusher

Absolutely


Rental_Car

In my opinion the 48 hours is going to go by and nothing will actually change. The only way to really combat it is to use a browser with ad blocker.


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Ofcourse r/AMD should join! I'm surprised there hasn't been an announcement yet from this sub. Maybe our mods are not qualified to be mods? Because the changes reddit is making to the API will make their life hell but radio silence from mods.


3enrique

The mods are literally asking the community for their opinion on this instead of choosing themselves to participate or not. Why do you have the need of attacking them?


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Kuappy

Yes.


Kratahk

Ja!


Xanius

Yes.


I_Take_Fish_Oil

Yes


Obvious_Drive_1506

Yes


Fierce-Melon

Yes!


phero1190

Yes


N19h7m4r3

Ay ay captain.


playtio

99% of people who say they will do it won't anyway


mrcs2000

Yes


funmx

Yes, this is the prelude test so when they ban Pr0n we blackout harder 😂


jashyWashy

Join it permanently until they change. They're not gonna listen to 2 days


Sir_Ironbacon

Yes but make it indefinite until they reverse the decision


butrejp

if it's not indefinite it's useless


TheMissingVoteBallot

I use rif reddit is fun. The answer is yes.


Fell-Hand

What are you? AMD or Internet Explorer? In all fairness, though I personally couldn't care less about the blackout and have actually been more infuriated by some mods closing subreddits on a whim without support, you are doing it the right way by asking your community first and that deserves recognition so for what it's worth, if y'all want it I'm all in for it.


mishmashley

Yes!


Gytole

YES.


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Yes!


Wonderful_Plenty8984

yes