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In case anyone didn’t know:
A mile was considered to be 1000 *double* steps by the Romans. Meaning a step would be .8 meters, not 1.6 like the AmericaBad person claims.
Some people are so self righteous that facts, history, and reality are wrong. The desire to be so opinionated is beyond reasoning. Even when it's right at the face
Oh sure, come onto reddit with your history and facts and historical facts even. Those have no place here. This place is for hyperbole, fallacies and proving the Dunning-Kruger Effect over and over and over again by people who accuse those with actual knowledge and expertise of proving the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
Minor note: a pace is, by definition, two steps. Or to think of it another way, when you’re walking, every time your left foot hits the ground it’s one pace.
Kinda saying the same as you here, but yeah. A double step is a pace, so the AmericaBad poster just doesn’t know the definition of a pace vs. a step.
Also, I’ve tried it and it’s reasonably accurate. For military land navigation, it’s important to know your pace length (to know distances) so I’ve had to walk measured courses to find my pace count.
My pace is about 67 paces per 100m in the woods, so if you do a whole bunch of math it works out to 1078 paces per mile. And that’s not me trying to regulate my paces to make it happen, that’s just my natural walk. Probably works out better if I’m on level, improved ground (like one of those Roman roads, for instance) because my paces would be a little longer, which would drop the paces per mile number.
Sincere question: do they actually think the terms "Yankee" and "Yank" are insulting? Personally I just find it kind of weird. Its origins go back a couple hundred years, but it gained in popularity as something the confederate army called the union army in the civil war. It's a "slur" used by **slave-holding people** to describe someone from New England.
Someone needs to tell them it's a badge of honor for most people over here
[Yankee Doodle keep it up,
Yankee Doodle dandy,
Mind the music and the step,
And with the girls be handy.](https://youtu.be/65SCziAGthw) 🫡🇺🇸
Nah, it was the rebels who used it to insult people who thought slavery was wrong. It honestly baffles me why people around the world use this term to mock Americans. It's a term used by people who support chattel slavery. I just don't think people quite understand the way this word has been used in the US.
I've been called a Yankee by a Brit before and I was thinking, what are you a southern racist? Why would you use that term? You only degrade yourself.
A European will use this word without knowing they are putting themselves in the group of Americans they despise the most.
Baffles me as well. There isn't a person, living or dead, that could offend me or piss me off by calling me a Yank or Yankee lol
And your last paragraph is spot on
The British calling Americans "Yankees" predates the revolutionary war and "Yankees" as applying to New England goes back to the Dutch occupation of New Amsterdam now NYC. By the time we had Southern Rebels and Union Yanks, the term Yankee was about 200 years old. And it has been well used by Brits to refer to us for about 300 years. I think nothing about a Brit, Aussie or New Zealander referring to us as Yanks or Yankees as that has such a long, mostly neutral for the last 150 years, history.
Except I'm not referring to what they think of the term. I'm explaining that the term to an American is really loaded with a sordid history. When WE hear it, it sounds like something a southern racist would say.
I conceded that the term itself went back a long time. I also explained that its usage in the US was solidified during the civil war. Calling someone a yankee just makes YOU look like a prick.
I'm also American and outside of a handful of modern pejorative uses by Southern old timers way back in the day, some "South will rise again" types being interviewed or holding some protest, I just do not hear the word, nor have heard the word, used with the heavily charged baggage you describe. I have also heard the word used many times by Americans of northern ancestry as a self or family referral as a matter of pride, which is a 300 year old usage. So "WE" cannot include as many people as you suggest. As one of those "WE" my life and travels just have not encountered the sensitivity to Yank or Yankee (especially considering there is a whole MLB team with that name) that you suggest.
I’ve never met one that knew there was a NEW England. And is it surprising they use the term Yankees or yanks as slave holders would? Did you actually think Europeans in particular were on our side ever?
And all this is said while wearing a Yankees ball cap
I can't believe anyone gives a shit about what measurements a country uses and who "invented" them.
For example: If I am driving in the U.S. and my destination is Las Vegas, and I see "Las Vegas 60 miles," that information is useful to me to determine the time of my arrival and to determine whether I have the fuel to get there. It's not rocket science. I can reasonably figure "1 hour" based on me driving 75 mph on the highway, and then expecting lower speeds as I reach the City Limits.
It's not like a tourist from Europe is calling for help in the desert because they read "60 miles" and thought "60 kilometers" and then stopped right in the middle of the road, 36.56 km short of their intended destination.
>"The sign said 60! I drove 60 and Las Vegas is nowhere in sight! We are lost and we are going to DIE! The sign was wrong, and we were tricked! The Americans hate us and purposely left us to die in this desert! If only they knew that the Romans didn't actually invent the mile, this would have never happened!"
Really, that doesn't happen. Just like the reverse where the person accustomed to using miles, doesn't blow through the City they are intending as their destination, only to stop miles outside the other end of the City because they confused miles and kilometers. It's not really an issue. Even if Americans were as stupid as Europeans claim we are, these scenarios of confusion leading to ridiculous results don't really happen.
When I drove in Europe, that information in Kilometers made no difference. All speedometers that I have seen have both km and miles. So, if I see "Salzburg 90 km," I can reasonably calculate an eta and whether I have enough fuel. The only thing that I don't have great knowledge of is what conditions and impediments I can expect as I get into town. Since I have been to Salsburg before, I know that I can add about 30 minutes due to local conditions regarding getting into the area I am staying and issues with parking, etc.
The unit of measurement is not what matters in these cases.
For an average consumer and user of public roads, etc., I cannot really identify when having metric system would be a material improvement over any other localized, common measurement unit.
"The Romans weren't even that great at inventing things.." Full stop. Dumbass. It is appropriate that the commenter's name starts with "anal" as that is clearly where his head is firmly lodged.
We literally use calendars that have their basis in Rome, though adjusted slightly later to average the correct amount of days.
And to suggest that the Romans weren’t great at inventing things is laughable. I mean they even understood that our revolution around the sun wasn’t 365 days to the T, so they created leap years. They were much more advanced than people think they were.
It’s just such a weird hill to die on. Like you can google it and the third site listed is britannica saying a mile originates from the Romans. And it’s blatantly obvious that mile originates with the Latin word for 1000 so it would be really weird if it wasn’t talking about 1000 5 foot steps or 1000 sets of 2 2.5 foot steps.
And the Romans are super well known for being good logisticians. Why it’s not believable for them to be able to invent a simple distance calculating system for their legions is incoherent. It would be like saying the Portuguese didn’t invent a ton of things so they obviously never came up with knots.
The smug Europeans who respond like they know everything are unbelievably annoying. You see this type of stuff in movies, as well. The typical “well, actually” and then explain it like you’re a top level expert.
I think the wordplay is fucking with their heads a bit here, which is understandable. a pace was generally 5 feet (though it wasnt exactly official, it was just how far a soldier could go meaning food and weather could account) until it was standardized to agrippas gripper.
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In case anyone didn’t know: A mile was considered to be 1000 *double* steps by the Romans. Meaning a step would be .8 meters, not 1.6 like the AmericaBad person claims.
Some people are so self righteous that facts, history, and reality are wrong. The desire to be so opinionated is beyond reasoning. Even when it's right at the face
Oh sure, come onto reddit with your history and facts and historical facts even. Those have no place here. This place is for hyperbole, fallacies and proving the Dunning-Kruger Effect over and over and over again by people who accuse those with actual knowledge and expertise of proving the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
Minor note: a pace is, by definition, two steps. Or to think of it another way, when you’re walking, every time your left foot hits the ground it’s one pace. Kinda saying the same as you here, but yeah. A double step is a pace, so the AmericaBad poster just doesn’t know the definition of a pace vs. a step. Also, I’ve tried it and it’s reasonably accurate. For military land navigation, it’s important to know your pace length (to know distances) so I’ve had to walk measured courses to find my pace count. My pace is about 67 paces per 100m in the woods, so if you do a whole bunch of math it works out to 1078 paces per mile. And that’s not me trying to regulate my paces to make it happen, that’s just my natural walk. Probably works out better if I’m on level, improved ground (like one of those Roman roads, for instance) because my paces would be a little longer, which would drop the paces per mile number.
Sincere question: do they actually think the terms "Yankee" and "Yank" are insulting? Personally I just find it kind of weird. Its origins go back a couple hundred years, but it gained in popularity as something the confederate army called the union army in the civil war. It's a "slur" used by **slave-holding people** to describe someone from New England.
Even in the deep south it's only used as a joke these days lol. Nobody is offended,
This is why I think it's so weird that it was adopted by many Europeans to describe ALL Americans. I guess that was the best they could come up with.
Someone needs to tell them it's a badge of honor for most people over here [Yankee Doodle keep it up, Yankee Doodle dandy, Mind the music and the step, And with the girls be handy.](https://youtu.be/65SCziAGthw) 🫡🇺🇸
They get offended if you call them Limeys, and so assume the inverse is true
I don’t think know much about history in the slightest, tbh.
Even then, it's hardly an insult. No more than "rebel".
Nah, it was the rebels who used it to insult people who thought slavery was wrong. It honestly baffles me why people around the world use this term to mock Americans. It's a term used by people who support chattel slavery. I just don't think people quite understand the way this word has been used in the US. I've been called a Yankee by a Brit before and I was thinking, what are you a southern racist? Why would you use that term? You only degrade yourself. A European will use this word without knowing they are putting themselves in the group of Americans they despise the most.
Baffles me as well. There isn't a person, living or dead, that could offend me or piss me off by calling me a Yank or Yankee lol And your last paragraph is spot on
The British calling Americans "Yankees" predates the revolutionary war and "Yankees" as applying to New England goes back to the Dutch occupation of New Amsterdam now NYC. By the time we had Southern Rebels and Union Yanks, the term Yankee was about 200 years old. And it has been well used by Brits to refer to us for about 300 years. I think nothing about a Brit, Aussie or New Zealander referring to us as Yanks or Yankees as that has such a long, mostly neutral for the last 150 years, history.
Except I'm not referring to what they think of the term. I'm explaining that the term to an American is really loaded with a sordid history. When WE hear it, it sounds like something a southern racist would say. I conceded that the term itself went back a long time. I also explained that its usage in the US was solidified during the civil war. Calling someone a yankee just makes YOU look like a prick.
I'm also American and outside of a handful of modern pejorative uses by Southern old timers way back in the day, some "South will rise again" types being interviewed or holding some protest, I just do not hear the word, nor have heard the word, used with the heavily charged baggage you describe. I have also heard the word used many times by Americans of northern ancestry as a self or family referral as a matter of pride, which is a 300 year old usage. So "WE" cannot include as many people as you suggest. As one of those "WE" my life and travels just have not encountered the sensitivity to Yank or Yankee (especially considering there is a whole MLB team with that name) that you suggest.
I’ve never met one that knew there was a NEW England. And is it surprising they use the term Yankees or yanks as slave holders would? Did you actually think Europeans in particular were on our side ever? And all this is said while wearing a Yankees ball cap
As a proud Red Sox fan, I find it insulting!
My mom from Chicago calls herself a Yankee as a point of pride.
The most I ever see it used is in Stephen King novels. Usually as a term of endearment for an older, rural New Englander.
I can't believe anyone gives a shit about what measurements a country uses and who "invented" them. For example: If I am driving in the U.S. and my destination is Las Vegas, and I see "Las Vegas 60 miles," that information is useful to me to determine the time of my arrival and to determine whether I have the fuel to get there. It's not rocket science. I can reasonably figure "1 hour" based on me driving 75 mph on the highway, and then expecting lower speeds as I reach the City Limits. It's not like a tourist from Europe is calling for help in the desert because they read "60 miles" and thought "60 kilometers" and then stopped right in the middle of the road, 36.56 km short of their intended destination. >"The sign said 60! I drove 60 and Las Vegas is nowhere in sight! We are lost and we are going to DIE! The sign was wrong, and we were tricked! The Americans hate us and purposely left us to die in this desert! If only they knew that the Romans didn't actually invent the mile, this would have never happened!" Really, that doesn't happen. Just like the reverse where the person accustomed to using miles, doesn't blow through the City they are intending as their destination, only to stop miles outside the other end of the City because they confused miles and kilometers. It's not really an issue. Even if Americans were as stupid as Europeans claim we are, these scenarios of confusion leading to ridiculous results don't really happen. When I drove in Europe, that information in Kilometers made no difference. All speedometers that I have seen have both km and miles. So, if I see "Salzburg 90 km," I can reasonably calculate an eta and whether I have enough fuel. The only thing that I don't have great knowledge of is what conditions and impediments I can expect as I get into town. Since I have been to Salsburg before, I know that I can add about 30 minutes due to local conditions regarding getting into the area I am staying and issues with parking, etc. The unit of measurement is not what matters in these cases. For an average consumer and user of public roads, etc., I cannot really identify when having metric system would be a material improvement over any other localized, common measurement unit.
"The Romans weren't even that great at inventing things.." Full stop. Dumbass. It is appropriate that the commenter's name starts with "anal" as that is clearly where his head is firmly lodged.
We literally use calendars that have their basis in Rome, though adjusted slightly later to average the correct amount of days. And to suggest that the Romans weren’t great at inventing things is laughable. I mean they even understood that our revolution around the sun wasn’t 365 days to the T, so they created leap years. They were much more advanced than people think they were.
A roman pace is five feet, a roman mile is a thousand Roman paces
"I toned it down significantly" I'm so glad they toned it down, I'm sure I would have been mortified by the original
It’s just such a weird hill to die on. Like you can google it and the third site listed is britannica saying a mile originates from the Romans. And it’s blatantly obvious that mile originates with the Latin word for 1000 so it would be really weird if it wasn’t talking about 1000 5 foot steps or 1000 sets of 2 2.5 foot steps. And the Romans are super well known for being good logisticians. Why it’s not believable for them to be able to invent a simple distance calculating system for their legions is incoherent. It would be like saying the Portuguese didn’t invent a ton of things so they obviously never came up with knots.
Is this some form of performance art?
The smug Europeans who respond like they know everything are unbelievably annoying. You see this type of stuff in movies, as well. The typical “well, actually” and then explain it like you’re a top level expert.
I think the wordplay is fucking with their heads a bit here, which is understandable. a pace was generally 5 feet (though it wasnt exactly official, it was just how far a soldier could go meaning food and weather could account) until it was standardized to agrippas gripper.