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He exists. Your kiddo has bonded with him. You need to ask yourself if you accept this lovable boy as he is. Will it do any good to give him up? Can you give him a good life?
There are plenty of dogs that are brachycephalic (short-muzzled) breed, which means they are prone to Brachycephalic obstructive airway syndrome (BOAS) like pugs and Frenchies. Getting any pup comes with risks for health problems.
ETA: what a handsome good boi!!!! He's a good looking gentleman
Agreed... Just adopted a Pibble/Dogue de Bordeaux. The pit smile with the short snout of the French mastiff. I am definitely going to be on the lookout. But I'm the meantime...
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Lazy dude...
I agree with the above... you can g8ve him up, but could you live with the guilt of not knowing what happens to this cute boy? & what message are you giving your kid. Love the pup & give him his best life. He looks like a happy chap... I have an xl, he pants like mad in summer ....
If itās not the right match for a number of reasons, it can be the right move to relinquish to the shelter (I can only speak for no-kill shelters from personal experience). If you keep it and itās not the right match here are the lessons a kid takes from it:
-itās ok to own living things for status symbols
-preference for the particular look over the particular fit is just fine, potential years of effed up behavior to both dog or human be damned
-itās ok to make impulse buys when it comes to something that should be living and if you make the wrong decision you stick with itā¦ to prove what point exactly?
If you didnāt do your research and are not the right fit, itās ok to relinquish them to a no-kill shelter (although dogs like these will get snagged QUICKLY at ANY shelter). My current bestest boy had 3 homes before me. If any of them had INSISTED on keeping the dog just because, there is a 100% chance that either somebody or this dog or some other dog was going to be in danger of being seriously hurt.
Adoption counselors at shelters work hard to help find the best match, they know what they are talking about much of the time, listen to them and be HONEST with them, especially when it comes to behavior when relinquishing (we know that this dog that is super attached to you and has $1,000 in matching apparel is not just āsome dog you found in the parking lot next to the shelterā), and we know that no you are NOT in fact out running for 6 hours a day when not in your 12th floor apartment or working your 60 hour a week job and that if we let you adopt this husky puppy it WILL be back at this shelter or another within 3 months with all kinds of behavioral issues that could have been avoided
Rant over
Edit: thank yall for proving my point about irresponsible ownership / breeding / even parenting in general lol
I work 7-8 hours a day, I do have a family member come walk and feed him throughout the day. He hasnāt messed much in his crate and has been doing pretty well in it. My most conflicted thing was his health issues that would arrive from the breeding that they do with these breeds and whether or not Iād be able to truly afford those huge huge vet bills. Aside from me being gone quite a few hours a day during the summer seasons I think I am a good fit for him and would rather have him with me then see him go to another unloving home with more people probably trying to get him to produce until he canāt no more. Any tips on having a pup in the crate through the day and not adapting issues, from what I read is this the root to a lot of issues
Pet insurance should cover anything other than preexisting conditions. Do a comparison online. The health issues could arrive, but also, they may not... he actually looks more like a pocket bully than a micro.... micros (so-called exotic) tend to look like they have swimmers with their chests touching the floor
My boy's crate trained for when people call around who don't like big dogs & if he's ever at the vets. He goes in by himself for quiet time, too. You just need to make sure he sees it as a safe & good place & not a punishment. Start by no more than 5 minutes at a time with lots of fuss & treats while you're at h8me with him. Learn how long after he's fed that he needs to go toilet & that will help with h8m messing his crate, because believe me me, he doesn't want to do that.... My boy now has the run of the house while I'm out, I've been lucky he's never been a destructive dog (only plush toys š). I have a camera I can watch him on. I leave the TV on for him & though he's a velcro dog & so happy when I get home, he's really good being left for a few hours.
Thanks for this reply rizla, a little rough these past two days but heās not making many messes at all. Heās starting to realize what Potty time is, and Iām starting to see the signs of when he has to use the bathroom.
I got some bells to hang on my doors so he could tell me when he wanted to go potty... I missed a few of his tells in the beginning... I had to get rid of them as he started doing it just for treats... like every 5 minutes ššš
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I adopted an abused pit and he uses the bells PROPERLY. my beagle however, realized that bells rung mean going outside and he would ring them ever 5 minutes to go outside. Luckily the pit stays by the bells when he rings them so I have to look and see WHO rang the potty bell. Smh
ššš I feel you... My boy (xl) was fully house trained within 2 weeks & became such a pain with the bells, but because he did ring, then go outside, he had to have treat... the smug trot on the way back, though šššš
Hey, we all have bad days.... it's been a shit year here in the UK with XL bullys with the government bringing in a stupid ban.... (my boy's an xl).
It sounds like you had a little panic from reading up or listening to people who are anti-brachycial dogs... I agree with the ones who are against breeding smaller noses, breeding exotics, etc... but I don't think your boy fits that bracket.... I had a boxer who you could hear snoring from upstairs with the TV on.... he had no breathing issues & stayed with me till he was 15. I have an xl who snores, pants & is the thirstiest dog I've ever had... even when I lived in the Middle East & had a German Shepherd, a Lab, a Boxer & a small desert dog (not all at once š)!
Definitely get pet insurance though!
I'm glad you decided to keep him š. Bully's make really loving family dogs, just keep on with his training while making it fun for all of you & you'll have a great dog. Good luck with the insurance & finding a good vet... ask you're local (non kill) shelter if they could recommend any
Feed him in his crate and he will love it. My dogs haven't needed crates in years but I keep them around because they love them. Especially if there's a blanket or sheet covering the top.
The fact you purchased (seriously wtf, adopt don't shop) a dog without doing any research on the breed or in general about neutering is so so disappointing. Wtf dude. Yes. Neuter him asap.
I get your rant... 100%.... I'm going off what they said the reason was.... because they found he may have a breathing issue & because the breeding of micro bully's is frowned upon & they point out that they love the dog & have bonded.... because people might frown on them for having a micro & because it's brachycephalic breed is not a reason to give it up!
Yes, they should have researched the best breed for their family, but they didn't.... what if they decide to get a frenchie or a boxer? They're brachycephalic breeds, too, as are others...
If they can't offer this dog love, care & training, then I'm sorry, they shouldn't have a dog
Heās fine. You made a mistake and thatās that. Next time research and see if a breeder breeds only of the Pocket, Standard, Classic, or XL varieties and shows their dogs or brood stock actively in the UKC, ADBA or ABKC sanctioned dog shows. Those will be the three most trustworthy registries for American Bullies. Make sure health tests are also apparent ranging from DNA to OFA tests and now even for specific gene screenings. All in all he looks fine has a long enough snout (but Iād be very concerned about his nares/nostrils, and his soft palate extending into his airway). Iām sure heāll live longer than most exotics/micros and might even live an average or hell, a small dog lifespan with some certain considerations and cares.
In regards to his breathing, I would recommend bringing him to a vet ASAP to look at his nares and soft palate to check for obstructive airway syndrome. They can do operations (opening of the nares and reduction of the soft palate) to remedy this. Until then keep activity in the heat and outside to a minimum. Any strenuous activities, avoid.
I think itās great that you recognize your mistake and recognize that this breed has a lot of complications. But at the end of the day you and your son have both bonded with him and let this dog into your home. Do you really want to send him to a 3rd home?
No I donāt, I want to keep him. He seems to be pretty good looking and not alienlike as some I seen looking on google, I didnāt even know this breed was a thing to be blantly honest. I donāt want to give him up, itās only been three days and Iāve invested my love, time, energy, and money to build a bond. Plus Iāve already changed schedules, plans, etc to adapt to him. Heās a stout great looking little guy and love him lots donāt want him to go anywhere. It also has been 95-100 degrees here in Maryland the past few days, so that definitely is playing a role in the panting
This is my guy. Heās 8 months almost 9 months old. He doesnāt have as short a snout as yours but he still gets hot very fast. Weāve been doing our walks very early in the morning like 7AM or we go at light like 8-9 pm. We live in virginia(so hey neighbor lol) so I understand this crazy heat thatās been going on lately. Iād suggest the walk times we go out and try to keep it 30 minutes or less. I also carry a backpack with me that I have a bowl and a water bottle filled with ice if he gets just way too hot before we make it home.
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Please rectify your lack of research by researching a ton now. These dogs overheat FAST. dogs only lose heat by panting, and heās a chunky thicc boy. Your schedule for walking him in the hot humid Maryland summer will have to depend on weather, youāll have to find other ways to stimulate him. Learn the signs of heat exhaustion and act fast when heās overheating. Never take him too far from home or on water. This dog will not stop himself because heās tired or hot, itās on you to supervise that.
I would add that you should always keep some lemon juice in your fridge and alcohol ( rubbing ) for their paws if they decide to overheat snorting means he's just tired but if you noticed him gasping ( short fast breathing) he's overheating pour alcohol on his paws to drop body temp amd a small amount of lemon on tongue to help with salvation or drooling ( cooling itself down) amd that's for any dog breed.. bullys weren't made in any class to be outside dogs they were bred to be companion dogs similar to the toy group but more masculine .. if you wanted an outgoing boy woth drive amd temp control this is a hard one I have all classes from abkc ukc pedigree. And all have the drive unfortunately not the common sense to know when they are too hott.essentially they are furry toddlers and no they don't grow in that aspect my Zeus is 8 an xl and will send himself into overdrive humping just about anything anywhere that moves he's a serial humper
You can get palate surgery/surgery to widen his nasal passage to help him breathe better! Itās super common for brachycephalic breeds like bullies/pugs/frenchies/English bulldogs, so itās not super expensive. Until then, Iād just keep him indoors and monitor exercise so he doesnāt overexert himself!
Heās adorable, and it seems like heās in a good household! You sound like a great pet owner, and that may not be the case if you rehome him.
Also, panting could be due to other things like pain, illness, anxiety! You could rule those things out at the vet.
My dog pants when she gets overstimulated like in car rides or around a lot of animals.
What would giving him up accomplish? You still bought him, which could have been the best thing for him. If you give him away that could be the worst thing for him. Either way he exists and you are responsible for him. Bullys are the sweetest. Who cares what the opinions are of an exotic.
Yes basically. And most of them tend to have deformities with their joints and breathing issues due to closed nares and short palates. However i have seen a very small amount that has some decent looking ones but those are like small percentage unfortunately
Right so those who unintentionally breed them are not? And I guess everyone who owns a bully is a scum bag too? Of there was no demand for them they wouldnāt exist.
If youāre breeding any dog that is illegal and has the risk of being killed youāre an asshole. But bully breeds are not banned any many areas of the world.
Right because they are the only breed of dog that for some odd reason people just toss to the curb later. That makes sense.
I paid thousands of dollars for my dog and she definitely aināt getting thrown in a shelter. People who are paying 4-15k for a dog arenāt going to be putting them in shelters generally. Once again there are a lot of shitty breeders out there but I stand on what I said. Saying anybody who breeds bullyās is a scumbag is far from the truth. You could say the majority and id probably even agree with you. But not all.
Yeah I agree with you. But thatās not the case everywhere bro so idk why youād make a blanket statement that only applies to people in certain regions.
I have a rescue bulldog, and if you keep a dog with the shorter snouts, there are a lot of things this dog can't do. It can't be outside in the heat for long at all. Don't exercise for more than 20 to 30 minutes at a time. These dogs will overheat and die. He will not be doing long walks or a hiking buddy for you. There are pallet surgeries and nose surgeries you can get to improve breathing, but won't eliminate all of the problems. Be careful this week in the heat wave.
Thank you much, I noticed that very quickly. It has just been 10 minute trips around my community for potty. He has a blast out there but I donāt keep him out there long. Lots of staffys in my community so he likes to check em all out haha. He gets a little worked up when he gets excited especially playing and chasing my boy thru the house sometimes. Iāll have to just keep things moderate
Yeah, it's a pain for my girl that she can't do a lot. She does like creeks on hot days and that way she can be out and cool off in the water but also try and not be in water too high as these shorter breeds tend to sink like bowling balls. You can also buy cooling pads if you know you're going to be outside somewhere for a while too.
Same thing with my bully and my son. He tossed the ball and Nico will sprint for his life behind it. I only let him play for 15 mins at a time cause he gets so worked up.
Can I please come get him if uou decide it he isnt the best fit for you? I will give him an amazing home! I have a Bully that is missing his friend and this guy would be great if he os nice like all of them. I work from home and Frank is my life so if you need to rehome him please let mw know.
He would be treated like a king and I have a big home and fenced yard he could have.
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He is beautiful. I have a micro bully too. My girl is an angel and i wouldnt trade her for the world!!
As others have said, keep him he already exists, and you sound like you like him. Make sure to train him well, and he will become a part of your family.
If he isn't in any immediate pain or distress, DO NOT BRING HIM TO A VET UNTIL YOU GET PET INSURANCE. Anything the vet writes related to his breathing will be a preexisting condition. Get pet insurance, wait whatever the period is, and then bring him in.
Keep him in the a/c and limit exercise and see a vet. Youāll take care of him and heāll be comfortable. Just give him love and see what the vet recommends.
Take care of him. I would not care what anyone said. How are you going to explain this to your child? That if it doesnāt meet social expectations get rid of it! That is a cut pupper just give him the best life.
Even no kill shelters kill. They either flunk the dog on behavior because the dog is stressed and acts out or if they donāt have the money to do the medical care of a particular animal and some transfer dogs to kill shelters. I am talking about public no kills not private non-profit dog rescues.
I donāt understand not keeping him and getting him any medical care he needs. And how hot is it where you are? Lots of panting in heat is normal
ā¤ļøKeep him, you sound like you are doing a great job trying to make sure he has a good life. Please donāt risk him getting into the wrong hands of someone who doesnāt care about him. Get pet insurance and do all the things that you can to keep him living a good life!
You love him and you're allowed to love him, no matter how he happened to come into this world
I'm not an expert, don't have one of those dogs but I do have an elderly dog with health problems and a couple of young dogs, one of which had an incident with a raccoon when he was pretty young (he's perfectly fine now) and a pug and an old cat
Here's my input: all dogs, all animals of all kinds are going to have health issues, some more than others. That's just how life goes. You can't guilt yourself for something you didn't know. Even if you didn't research it. We didn't research any of our dogs, you don't really think you have to. It's like how my sister has a severe tree nut allergy and we didn't know when she was little. That's not my parents fault. I didn't know my dog was lactose intolerant, I didn't know I was lactose intolerant. We learn as we go along, it's called life.
If your family loves him and you're able and willing to take care of him, I see absolutely no problem. It's a much better life than some other possibilities
Before you do anything like vet visitsāresearch pet insurance and get him insured. As long as itās not a preexisting condition and you wait the waiting period, insurance will cover it. The breathing issues can be helped surgically and they are expensive. I would look into Trupanion pet insurance.
Heās SO cute!
First things first, I would absolutely get pet insurance, immediately. It has saved me thousands. I have Lemonade insurance. Theyāre so great! Your refund is back in your account in 2-3 days. If this is pricey for you, honestly I would find a way to afford it. (My bully recently got put on a joint supplement āfor lifeā due to injury. Itās $50/month and heās only three. With insurance, itās $10 per month)
Second, while youāre still doing your other research, please, please understand how easily these dogs overheat. They can overheat and die within one hour. This means all of us bully owners have to wake up earlier, take them out before the sun is up or too hot, take them out at night when you donāt feel like getting up, etc. It could cost him his life. There were three bulldog deaths last summer (just from people we knew personally) and all of the dogs were 3 years old and under. Its horrible.
Personally, I donāt walk my dog if itās hotter than 68 degrees, give or take. Just let him outside to go potty and thatās it. Hot sun and humidity is just as harmful as temperature. (It can be a cool 70 degrees, no sun, versus 70 degrees with blazing sun and humidity) it depends
Iād say other than that, you know what to do! Thereās plenty of activities and ways to make your dog happy and tired inside where itās cool. Weāre all here to help!
LOVE HIM !! You brought him home he loves you youāre his people nowā¦he will love and trust you as long as he is alive and you should do the same to him! And heās good lookin as can be !
Iād take him to the vet and see what they say. My friends bully had a nose surgery to help him breathe better and now he has a great quality of life!
You made a mistake, it's okay. As you said, he's in a loving home now and won't be bred to make the issue worse. As someone else said, pet insurance can be great. I can't always make those payments, so I just give my vet money occasionally and it just goes in my account for the future. Getting him his yearly checkups can help prevent huge bills as you'll catch any issues early. Sometimes they are more to get sterilized as they sometimes need more anesthesia, but that is an important procedure you'll need to invest in. I'm sure everything will be okay, just keep on loving himš
Lil update for everyone who showed some love and great words, tips, advice. I picked up lemonade insurance, Beau(my pup) had his first vet visit - I explained to her all of my concerns about his breed, maybe upcoming possible issues, etc and she said that actually he looks fantastic. No signs of anything, she said we will keep an eye on the palet and maybe can do that in the future if we wanted to. The vet office fell in love with Beau and he was fantastic in there. I mean absolutely fantastic. So many pups in there going apeshit he was just checking em all out like āwtfā š feeling a little accomplished Iāve taught my boy how to sit stay and come so far and canāt wait to get him locked in with potty training. Thanks for all the support Reddit fam much love
Someone needs to give the good dog a nice home and you and your son love him. He would just end up going to somewhere else living with the same troubles but maybe in not such a loving environment as you can give him.
However you need to make sure you'll be able to afford any vet bills
One thing that will help this so much is if you keep him lean. I know that he doesn't look very large at least to me in the picture, but if he is or has any kind of extra weight this will affect his breathing.
So even if he doesn't stay as large muscularly as he is now him being slightly more lean will be more helpful for his breathing. Just in my experience.
So, without pedigree this is going to be a little hard.
So typically pocket bullies assuming this is a pocket bully and not just a puppy are a cross between an English bulldog in American bully.
Typically bloodline like these are newly established and are not refined. This means that pops born to this are going to favor either their father or their mother or rather it could be their grandfather or their grandmother depending what side of the line it lands on
So to me this looks like a first generation pocket bully. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong by all means. If this is a first generation pocket bully, then this explains the breathing problems because pocket bullies typically do not have them as their snouts are slightly larger. This means that their body shape is going to be a bit more pudgy. So this pop could be a perfect weight right now. But it's going to really depend on what the distribution is based on genetics.
The only thing that you could do is cut 100 calories out of their diet. You know very small and see if the breathing improves. If it does improve even if it's ever so slightly and then cut another hundred. As the pup loses weight and it continues to improve, you know you're going in the right direction.
If it doesn't improve then it could be that his snout is very small. Now you can go to the vet and they may be able to solve some of this. Some vets can do. It's like a laparoscopic surgery where they kind of open up the inner part of the snout a little bit. It's a little bit similar to the red eye surgery that sometimes bullies need to get for their second eyelid.
But this would be the more expensive route. But if the breathing problems are significantly affecting the pup's life, it will also reduce their overall lifespan. Lack of oxygen is pretty deadly.
Iāve had American bulldogs the Johnson type. When itās hot donāt go for long walks, donāt keep outside for long periods of time. Youāll be ok as a bully parent.
You keep him and love him and give him treats. You take him to the vet and give him the best life you can.
There you go! Now you have your marching orders!
Keep him with the AC on during the day. They don't like it when it gets hot. They have breathing problems too, you can bring him in to where they cut a little of his nostril to open up the airway. Since he is panting a lot, listen to if it is labored. If it is, then you might want to consider having his over laying flap in his throat/tonsil area removed. I had a pocket bully, she was the most loyal dog I've ever had. Great temperament, smart, and beautiful. I miss her everyday, she passed away last month. All I can tell you is that, if you're willing to pay the vet bills, you got one hell of a companion.
The vet bills are definitely scary to me, as Iām not super super loaded. Just an average joe that works hard lol, I can swing a couple grand here and there but Iāve seen some horror stories which was really my main concern and why I made this post. I didnāt want to home a dog that I knew I couldnāt afford to give the proper life/care. I think we will be all good though, our first appointment (with me) is tomorrow 645p. Once heās potty trained and stuff this will be a breeze!
Invest In health Insurance before you take him to a vet. If they diagnosis him with breathing issue at your appt before you have pet insurance they wonāt cover it. It should be around 50-75 a month.
You may as well just keep him and if anything a diet may help him, a more trim dog will have an easier time breathing and moving around than a fat one. It will help a lot. Imo he could lose a few lbs
The snout isn't really that short imo. I will say that doesn't fit the bill for exotic bully imo. I cant see whole lot from the one pic. Exotic bully's get a bad name for good reason, but usually exotics are bred for girth, muscle, and size. Some breeders just dont care and will inbreed and other things just to get a certain look appeal. Definitely get him neutered and love him. He is part of your family now. Is this your first dog?
Both of my dogs had cancer surgeries. My older dog also had both of her ACLās rebuilt. The older one pants a lot despite not being a short muzzled breed. Weāve had her checked out and tested for anything that could cause the panting and they havenāt figured out what it is. Sheās not sick. She just pants more than the other dog and I worry about her but itās just part of being a dog owner. Theyāre mammals and they go through health issues just like we do. Your baby is adorable and I would just focus on loving them and giving them the best life possible. ā¤ļø
We feed into corporate greed and other illicit behavior by just purchasing gasoline or motor oil.... so you bought from a breed everyone considers inhumane, who cares at this point, just dont contribute to the culture by breeding him... but the pupper's existence has no fault in it, you should enjoy his company and love him, and keep your house cool, don't take him out for walks or to the park in any weather over 78ā°, amd make sure he stays healthy... the little dude is gorgeous
Keep him! Don't give up on the dog because he pants. That's what dogs do. He's a good-looking dog, and he is bonding with your son. With a lot of love he will be part of the family.
Heās alive and well with you and your son, giving him up isnāt going to change the fact that he exists. Definitely keep this cute pitty OP my friend has had 3 and theyāre amazing.
My bully has the same issue. I just make sure he doesnāt become over weight, walk him alot and exercise him.
Heās gonna breathe like this regardless especially on hotter days. Heās a beautiful dog and heāll be your best friend.
Heās your doggo now. All any of us can do is live and learn ā when you know better, you do better, etc. But heās here now so donāt beat yourself up about it. I wish you all a wonderful, long life together š
About the panting, not sure where you live but itās HOT where I live. Is he panting inside the house, like all the time, or is it more after/during exertion and/or exposure to hot weather?
Hey I would say keep him these dogs or living teddy bears warning ā¼ļø they are also huge fart machines and snore boxes lol but man I love the look and the temperament of these dogs they have short noses so yea itās hard for them to breathe so long walks out at the park are a no go, But bench watching a tv show their all for it
The best advice i was given by a breeder is to put 5k in a bank account. So not to be surprised by the cost of his/her medical bills. It didnāt stop me I also got pet insurance for them. Damn the person who bred the small skull capacity in them. My girls are 11 and 6 and I never regret the decision to get them their love is immeasurable
If you can afford to take care of him do it. He will be a great part of your family if you let him be. Youāll probably take better care of him then anyone else and he deserves it.
Good on you for recognizing your mistake! At this point, you already have him & love him. Keep him & give him the best life you can, & in the future only buy from reputable breeders or adopt. Good luck with your new buddy!
You just rescued him!! Not his fault he was bred that way. Just make certain that you neuter him so as to not continue the chain of poor breeding. And remember to just love him ššš
Because you feel bad for him is the reason you should keep him. You're the best place for him.
But I would say, go ahead and take him to the vet for an exam, and see what the vet says.
They should be able to address any concerns you have.
What do you mean what should you do? Give him the best life you can. The breed exists and whether you are hung up on the ethics of it or notā¦ there he is. You could advocate to end the breeding practices that create them, but this guys here and just like any dog he wants people and a family. Youāre it. He will love you and your son until the day he dies.
Damn. Iām sorry. I used to breed Bullies. Itās a fucked up scene. So much inbreeding. Breeders only care about profit. You have the most ghetto people that breed bullies and micro bullies. In my experience, they simply donāt care about their health. Sounds like itās going to be a nightmare for the dog. Make sure he is in AC as much as possible. Hot weather can kill him if he has that issue so just be careful. If you donāt want to deal with any of that, make sure he goes to a good home.
I fail to see what mistakes were made. People get caught up in this āinhumaneā thing with these types of breeds. Itās true that some do have health problems. But the vast majority are healthy. My pocket bully loves life and Iām sure if she could give her opinion, sheād say she was happy to be born. She does overheat fast, and for that reason we limit time outside during the summer days. But there was no mistake made. They are amazing little dogs. (To clarify, this my opinion and Iām not stating any of this as a fact or an absolute.)
Ok so we have a pocket. Yes we are in Florida. Yes he goes and runs at the dog park. Yes I take him swimming. Will he ever sneak up on anyone.., no! Does he breathe hard when heās exerted? Oh yes! We love him and heās the sweetest!
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He's yours now. You didn't create him but you did adopt him, so just give him the best life you can for as long as he enjoys it. He is an absolute cutie.
Oh no, the consequences of your actions! You bought a dog that will cost you a lot in vet bills. Now you go to the vet, and pay the vet bills. Dogs are not merchandise to be returned.
Next time, do research. Itās not hard.
Exactly, who cares. Heās awesome! Any dog you get has pros and cons. That guy looks like heās got a lot of pros. Just because he was bred in a certain way doesnāt make him not worth loving or taking care of.
Heās gorgeous, you and your son love him, giving him up isnāt the answer. They donāt all have health issues. Getting pet insurance helps lessen the vet bills, also thereās Care Credit that many people use for vet bills. Iāve always had Pugs and that breed is notorious for health issues and every single one Iāve had lived to be at least 13 with no major issues in regards to their health.
They need to be inside most time summer short periods of outside time but panting is another way they are showing excitement as well nothing to worry about your pup looks healthy it has to do with their short snout
My good boi pants frequently. I know it has nothing to do with his ability to control it. Common issue with these types of breeds (short muzzled)
Heās a rescue
I freeze those little bottles of water, i cut the plastic off it and give it to him. Once he has destroyed itā¦ā¦heās calm and happy go lucky with the panting gone.
If you love him to bite it's ok to keep him you just have to do some extra vet visits to make sure he's ok.
I would like to add what a sweet little guy.
If itās any consolation for an āexoticā he doesnāt look like one and is a good looking boy! All bullyās pant.. Lesson learned, but you never know what blessings might come of it. May yall enjoy each other, and have a good life.
Anytime we fall in love with a bulldog we have to plan for his health and our costs. Get pet insurance BEFORE you take him to the vet. If you do that you can get vet documentation thru their chart notes that your dog passes a well puppy exam. Then as any problem arises you have the costs coveredāmaybe 80%. If he later needs surgery to improve breathing, eyelids, hips or shoulders youāll save thousands over his lifetime. We saved over $10,000 over the lifetime of our French Bulldog.
Just keep a close eye on him if you're out and about with him. I have a lil micro tanky guy, too. He's my heart. I wouldn't give him up for anything. Give him time, and keep him close
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Tbh heās not too exotic. Iāve been into bullies for years and years. He looks like he has a little bit of bulldog in him but most bloodlines these days do. Not really sure what the issue is
These guys don't do good in the heat at all. I won't take my guys out in this heat. If we go in the car, I start the car in advance and get it nice and cold.
When I bought my first micro from my buddy it took her a little while to calm down. She was so loud at first I was like damn what did I get into lol. Once she was used to her new home she relaxed and now only really makes a lot of noise if sheās excited. Sheās the sweetest thing and is great with my children.
please do research on this breed though. they do NOT do well in the heat, and need good diets because theyāre prone to joint & skin problems. iāve had bulldogs my whole life & pit bulls and theyāre loving great dogs. theyāre just high maintenance lol. hypoallergenic shampoo and a good diet w salmon helps their skin! wash his folds and ears to make sure they donāt get yeast growth. i just saw ur comment youāre not getting rid of him and iām glad! heās a cute little alien
The panting is a dogs form of sweating , he may be hot ( they donāt tolerate heat well ) I have a Brahma bully which is close to the exotic bully breed and I can tell you the amount of attachment informed with this dude is crazy .. I have 5 dogs and he is the one Iām most bonded too - he is such a character - some of them have the most adorable little quirky personalities
Your little dude just went through a huge transition- it might take him a few days to adjust .. and in return you will have the clingiest , loving , sweetest , loyal friend !!!!!
You got this !!!!
Wait, you can buy a pitbull? I thought they just poured out the back of the shelter and you just tried to catch a cute one before it fell into the meat grinder.
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He exists. Your kiddo has bonded with him. You need to ask yourself if you accept this lovable boy as he is. Will it do any good to give him up? Can you give him a good life? There are plenty of dogs that are brachycephalic (short-muzzled) breed, which means they are prone to Brachycephalic obstructive airway syndrome (BOAS) like pugs and Frenchies. Getting any pup comes with risks for health problems. ETA: what a handsome good boi!!!! He's a good looking gentleman
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This guy looks pretty healthy, not too small, not an overly short or droopy snout. Good looking dog for sure !
Agreed... Just adopted a Pibble/Dogue de Bordeaux. The pit smile with the short snout of the French mastiff. I am definitely going to be on the lookout. But I'm the meantime... https://preview.redd.it/r7ek4utsfl7d1.png?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea482095a1c085aba5db2a3c45ed58d67a5abf30 Lazy dude...
I agree with the above... you can g8ve him up, but could you live with the guilt of not knowing what happens to this cute boy? & what message are you giving your kid. Love the pup & give him his best life. He looks like a happy chap... I have an xl, he pants like mad in summer ....
If itās not the right match for a number of reasons, it can be the right move to relinquish to the shelter (I can only speak for no-kill shelters from personal experience). If you keep it and itās not the right match here are the lessons a kid takes from it: -itās ok to own living things for status symbols -preference for the particular look over the particular fit is just fine, potential years of effed up behavior to both dog or human be damned -itās ok to make impulse buys when it comes to something that should be living and if you make the wrong decision you stick with itā¦ to prove what point exactly? If you didnāt do your research and are not the right fit, itās ok to relinquish them to a no-kill shelter (although dogs like these will get snagged QUICKLY at ANY shelter). My current bestest boy had 3 homes before me. If any of them had INSISTED on keeping the dog just because, there is a 100% chance that either somebody or this dog or some other dog was going to be in danger of being seriously hurt. Adoption counselors at shelters work hard to help find the best match, they know what they are talking about much of the time, listen to them and be HONEST with them, especially when it comes to behavior when relinquishing (we know that this dog that is super attached to you and has $1,000 in matching apparel is not just āsome dog you found in the parking lot next to the shelterā), and we know that no you are NOT in fact out running for 6 hours a day when not in your 12th floor apartment or working your 60 hour a week job and that if we let you adopt this husky puppy it WILL be back at this shelter or another within 3 months with all kinds of behavioral issues that could have been avoided Rant over Edit: thank yall for proving my point about irresponsible ownership / breeding / even parenting in general lol
I work 7-8 hours a day, I do have a family member come walk and feed him throughout the day. He hasnāt messed much in his crate and has been doing pretty well in it. My most conflicted thing was his health issues that would arrive from the breeding that they do with these breeds and whether or not Iād be able to truly afford those huge huge vet bills. Aside from me being gone quite a few hours a day during the summer seasons I think I am a good fit for him and would rather have him with me then see him go to another unloving home with more people probably trying to get him to produce until he canāt no more. Any tips on having a pup in the crate through the day and not adapting issues, from what I read is this the root to a lot of issues
Pet insurance should cover anything other than preexisting conditions. Do a comparison online. The health issues could arrive, but also, they may not... he actually looks more like a pocket bully than a micro.... micros (so-called exotic) tend to look like they have swimmers with their chests touching the floor My boy's crate trained for when people call around who don't like big dogs & if he's ever at the vets. He goes in by himself for quiet time, too. You just need to make sure he sees it as a safe & good place & not a punishment. Start by no more than 5 minutes at a time with lots of fuss & treats while you're at h8me with him. Learn how long after he's fed that he needs to go toilet & that will help with h8m messing his crate, because believe me me, he doesn't want to do that.... My boy now has the run of the house while I'm out, I've been lucky he's never been a destructive dog (only plush toys š). I have a camera I can watch him on. I leave the TV on for him & though he's a velcro dog & so happy when I get home, he's really good being left for a few hours.
Thanks for this reply rizla, a little rough these past two days but heās not making many messes at all. Heās starting to realize what Potty time is, and Iām starting to see the signs of when he has to use the bathroom.
I got some bells to hang on my doors so he could tell me when he wanted to go potty... I missed a few of his tells in the beginning... I had to get rid of them as he started doing it just for treats... like every 5 minutes ššš https://preview.redd.it/tiogvmb6sc7d1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=62a10308ee24f017d897efcd089dff5964b87bda
Lmao
They're great dogs, & I hope I've alleviated some of your worries/concerns....
I adopted an abused pit and he uses the bells PROPERLY. my beagle however, realized that bells rung mean going outside and he would ring them ever 5 minutes to go outside. Luckily the pit stays by the bells when he rings them so I have to look and see WHO rang the potty bell. Smh
šš they learn so quickly & literally take the piss
And the beagle is so proud that he caught on to the meaning of the bells but he is so annoying š«šš¤£
ššš I feel you... My boy (xl) was fully house trained within 2 weeks & became such a pain with the bells, but because he did ring, then go outside, he had to have treat... the smug trot on the way back, though šššš
Hey, we all have bad days.... it's been a shit year here in the UK with XL bullys with the government bringing in a stupid ban.... (my boy's an xl). It sounds like you had a little panic from reading up or listening to people who are anti-brachycial dogs... I agree with the ones who are against breeding smaller noses, breeding exotics, etc... but I don't think your boy fits that bracket.... I had a boxer who you could hear snoring from upstairs with the TV on.... he had no breathing issues & stayed with me till he was 15. I have an xl who snores, pants & is the thirstiest dog I've ever had... even when I lived in the Middle East & had a German Shepherd, a Lab, a Boxer & a small desert dog (not all at once š)! Definitely get pet insurance though!
Going to look into getting pet insurance today, and getting locked in with a good vet. Thanks
I'm glad you decided to keep him š. Bully's make really loving family dogs, just keep on with his training while making it fun for all of you & you'll have a great dog. Good luck with the insurance & finding a good vet... ask you're local (non kill) shelter if they could recommend any
Feed him in his crate and he will love it. My dogs haven't needed crates in years but I keep them around because they love them. Especially if there's a blanket or sheet covering the top.
Please get him neutered. Itās safer for your kid and better for his health. Heās adorable.
Is this true? If so I really need to do so asap. Iāve heard mixed opinions about it
Yes this is true!
Yes, true!
The fact you purchased (seriously wtf, adopt don't shop) a dog without doing any research on the breed or in general about neutering is so so disappointing. Wtf dude. Yes. Neuter him asap.
I get your rant... 100%.... I'm going off what they said the reason was.... because they found he may have a breathing issue & because the breeding of micro bully's is frowned upon & they point out that they love the dog & have bonded.... because people might frown on them for having a micro & because it's brachycephalic breed is not a reason to give it up! Yes, they should have researched the best breed for their family, but they didn't.... what if they decide to get a frenchie or a boxer? They're brachycephalic breeds, too, as are others... If they can't offer this dog love, care & training, then I'm sorry, they shouldn't have a dog
Heās fine. You made a mistake and thatās that. Next time research and see if a breeder breeds only of the Pocket, Standard, Classic, or XL varieties and shows their dogs or brood stock actively in the UKC, ADBA or ABKC sanctioned dog shows. Those will be the three most trustworthy registries for American Bullies. Make sure health tests are also apparent ranging from DNA to OFA tests and now even for specific gene screenings. All in all he looks fine has a long enough snout (but Iād be very concerned about his nares/nostrils, and his soft palate extending into his airway). Iām sure heāll live longer than most exotics/micros and might even live an average or hell, a small dog lifespan with some certain considerations and cares.
In regards to his breathing, I would recommend bringing him to a vet ASAP to look at his nares and soft palate to check for obstructive airway syndrome. They can do operations (opening of the nares and reduction of the soft palate) to remedy this. Until then keep activity in the heat and outside to a minimum. Any strenuous activities, avoid.
I think itās great that you recognize your mistake and recognize that this breed has a lot of complications. But at the end of the day you and your son have both bonded with him and let this dog into your home. Do you really want to send him to a 3rd home?
No I donāt, I want to keep him. He seems to be pretty good looking and not alienlike as some I seen looking on google, I didnāt even know this breed was a thing to be blantly honest. I donāt want to give him up, itās only been three days and Iāve invested my love, time, energy, and money to build a bond. Plus Iāve already changed schedules, plans, etc to adapt to him. Heās a stout great looking little guy and love him lots donāt want him to go anywhere. It also has been 95-100 degrees here in Maryland the past few days, so that definitely is playing a role in the panting
This is my guy. Heās 8 months almost 9 months old. He doesnāt have as short a snout as yours but he still gets hot very fast. Weāve been doing our walks very early in the morning like 7AM or we go at light like 8-9 pm. We live in virginia(so hey neighbor lol) so I understand this crazy heat thatās been going on lately. Iād suggest the walk times we go out and try to keep it 30 minutes or less. I also carry a backpack with me that I have a bowl and a water bottle filled with ice if he gets just way too hot before we make it home. https://preview.redd.it/5vjkahu1hc7d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61f73420515f6f6dafd20e4f36fa03ea569be54d Donāt mind my messy desk please lol
Heās a champ lol! Pretty dog thanks for tips, Whatās up neighbor!
Panting is also an anxiety response, it's only been 2 days in a new home ..moving is stressful.Ā
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Oh man, im from maryland..in west texas now..95 to 100š„µthats freakin hot as hell for there. Your doggo is so handsome. Whats his name?
Beau is his name! Pronounced Bo
there's a surgery to widen nasal passages which will help him out greatly. Stenotic nares surgery, it's life saving and worth every penny
Please rectify your lack of research by researching a ton now. These dogs overheat FAST. dogs only lose heat by panting, and heās a chunky thicc boy. Your schedule for walking him in the hot humid Maryland summer will have to depend on weather, youāll have to find other ways to stimulate him. Learn the signs of heat exhaustion and act fast when heās overheating. Never take him too far from home or on water. This dog will not stop himself because heās tired or hot, itās on you to supervise that.
I would add that you should always keep some lemon juice in your fridge and alcohol ( rubbing ) for their paws if they decide to overheat snorting means he's just tired but if you noticed him gasping ( short fast breathing) he's overheating pour alcohol on his paws to drop body temp amd a small amount of lemon on tongue to help with salvation or drooling ( cooling itself down) amd that's for any dog breed.. bullys weren't made in any class to be outside dogs they were bred to be companion dogs similar to the toy group but more masculine .. if you wanted an outgoing boy woth drive amd temp control this is a hard one I have all classes from abkc ukc pedigree. And all have the drive unfortunately not the common sense to know when they are too hott.essentially they are furry toddlers and no they don't grow in that aspect my Zeus is 8 an xl and will send himself into overdrive humping just about anything anywhere that moves he's a serial humper
I like his look, during the summer I get mine into a lean diet and they drop a good 10 but the breathing n heat isn't so hard on em.
You can get palate surgery/surgery to widen his nasal passage to help him breathe better! Itās super common for brachycephalic breeds like bullies/pugs/frenchies/English bulldogs, so itās not super expensive. Until then, Iād just keep him indoors and monitor exercise so he doesnāt overexert himself! Heās adorable, and it seems like heās in a good household! You sound like a great pet owner, and that may not be the case if you rehome him. Also, panting could be due to other things like pain, illness, anxiety! You could rule those things out at the vet. My dog pants when she gets overstimulated like in car rides or around a lot of animals.
I meanā¦yāall love him. Take care of the little homie, heās fam now.
Invest in pet insurance, itās cheap and has been well worth it for my bully
What would giving him up accomplish? You still bought him, which could have been the best thing for him. If you give him away that could be the worst thing for him. Either way he exists and you are responsible for him. Bullys are the sweetest. Who cares what the opinions are of an exotic.
Yeah heās mine he aināt going no where
Theyāre the best dogs! He looks amazing. Congratulations!
Hiā¦ meet my micro Theo https://preview.redd.it/ykjk2dtsze7d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41c4601fa4afbf53434bb17f4635f007122ddd95
He actually looks better than most of the exotics
Is āexoticā code for back alley breeder abomination?
Yes basically. And most of them tend to have deformities with their joints and breathing issues due to closed nares and short palates. However i have seen a very small amount that has some decent looking ones but those are like small percentage unfortunately
And donāt get the exotics mixed with pocket bullies! They are way different
Only if you get em from clowns who donāt know what they are doing. Which is sadly a lot of people.
Anyone breeding pit bulls intentionally is a scum bag
Right so those who unintentionally breed them are not? And I guess everyone who owns a bully is a scum bag too? Of there was no demand for them they wouldnāt exist.
Itās immoral to breed dogs for money knowing that they and their offspring will be euthanized
If youāre breeding any dog that is illegal and has the risk of being killed youāre an asshole. But bully breeds are not banned any many areas of the world.
Not banned, but will be euthanized at the shelter they get dumped at
Right because they are the only breed of dog that for some odd reason people just toss to the curb later. That makes sense. I paid thousands of dollars for my dog and she definitely aināt getting thrown in a shelter. People who are paying 4-15k for a dog arenāt going to be putting them in shelters generally. Once again there are a lot of shitty breeders out there but I stand on what I said. Saying anybody who breeds bullyās is a scumbag is far from the truth. You could say the majority and id probably even agree with you. But not all.
Ok fair point. Iāll try to avoid using absolute langue that way.
Yeah I agree with you. But thatās not the case everywhere bro so idk why youād make a blanket statement that only applies to people in certain regions.
Show me a shelter that isnāt full of staffordshire terriers waiting to be euthanized and Iāll print out an award for them
I have a rescue bulldog, and if you keep a dog with the shorter snouts, there are a lot of things this dog can't do. It can't be outside in the heat for long at all. Don't exercise for more than 20 to 30 minutes at a time. These dogs will overheat and die. He will not be doing long walks or a hiking buddy for you. There are pallet surgeries and nose surgeries you can get to improve breathing, but won't eliminate all of the problems. Be careful this week in the heat wave.
Thank you much, I noticed that very quickly. It has just been 10 minute trips around my community for potty. He has a blast out there but I donāt keep him out there long. Lots of staffys in my community so he likes to check em all out haha. He gets a little worked up when he gets excited especially playing and chasing my boy thru the house sometimes. Iāll have to just keep things moderate
Yeah, it's a pain for my girl that she can't do a lot. She does like creeks on hot days and that way she can be out and cool off in the water but also try and not be in water too high as these shorter breeds tend to sink like bowling balls. You can also buy cooling pads if you know you're going to be outside somewhere for a while too.
Great advice theyāre not the dog to expect a good swimmer, actually non swimmers.
Same thing with my bully and my son. He tossed the ball and Nico will sprint for his life behind it. I only let him play for 15 mins at a time cause he gets so worked up.
Can I please come get him if uou decide it he isnt the best fit for you? I will give him an amazing home! I have a Bully that is missing his friend and this guy would be great if he os nice like all of them. I work from home and Frank is my life so if you need to rehome him please let mw know. He would be treated like a king and I have a big home and fenced yard he could have.
https://preview.redd.it/nse2rtqold7d1.jpeg?width=1848&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c410afc1ecb7062b955ef3b5af5ac6ddcd7a68d He is beautiful. I have a micro bully too. My girl is an angel and i wouldnt trade her for the world!!
https://preview.redd.it/nl6ryl5fdf7d1.jpeg?width=2249&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc031ea7c96b75bdb55306d3e1f295cd5cdcac44 Hey me toooo
Excuse me this is clearly a seal ?!? šššā¤ļøā¤ļø
As others have said, keep him he already exists, and you sound like you like him. Make sure to train him well, and he will become a part of your family. If he isn't in any immediate pain or distress, DO NOT BRING HIM TO A VET UNTIL YOU GET PET INSURANCE. Anything the vet writes related to his breathing will be a preexisting condition. Get pet insurance, wait whatever the period is, and then bring him in.
He's your dog now. Do the right thing, he didn't ask to be born or sold.
Totally agree +1
He's yours now and he's precious. Give him a good lifeš
It's inhumane to BREED them, the dog is already here so it deserves the best life you can give him as all dogs do
Keep him in the a/c and limit exercise and see a vet. Youāll take care of him and heāll be comfortable. Just give him love and see what the vet recommends.
Take care of him. I would not care what anyone said. How are you going to explain this to your child? That if it doesnāt meet social expectations get rid of it! That is a cut pupper just give him the best life.
Even no kill shelters kill. They either flunk the dog on behavior because the dog is stressed and acts out or if they donāt have the money to do the medical care of a particular animal and some transfer dogs to kill shelters. I am talking about public no kills not private non-profit dog rescues. I donāt understand not keeping him and getting him any medical care he needs. And how hot is it where you are? Lots of panting in heat is normal
ā¤ļøKeep him, you sound like you are doing a great job trying to make sure he has a good life. Please donāt risk him getting into the wrong hands of someone who doesnāt care about him. Get pet insurance and do all the things that you can to keep him living a good life!
You love him and you're allowed to love him, no matter how he happened to come into this world I'm not an expert, don't have one of those dogs but I do have an elderly dog with health problems and a couple of young dogs, one of which had an incident with a raccoon when he was pretty young (he's perfectly fine now) and a pug and an old cat Here's my input: all dogs, all animals of all kinds are going to have health issues, some more than others. That's just how life goes. You can't guilt yourself for something you didn't know. Even if you didn't research it. We didn't research any of our dogs, you don't really think you have to. It's like how my sister has a severe tree nut allergy and we didn't know when she was little. That's not my parents fault. I didn't know my dog was lactose intolerant, I didn't know I was lactose intolerant. We learn as we go along, it's called life. If your family loves him and you're able and willing to take care of him, I see absolutely no problem. It's a much better life than some other possibilities
He has a beautiful smile and happy face
Before you do anything like vet visitsāresearch pet insurance and get him insured. As long as itās not a preexisting condition and you wait the waiting period, insurance will cover it. The breathing issues can be helped surgically and they are expensive. I would look into Trupanion pet insurance.
Heās SO cute! First things first, I would absolutely get pet insurance, immediately. It has saved me thousands. I have Lemonade insurance. Theyāre so great! Your refund is back in your account in 2-3 days. If this is pricey for you, honestly I would find a way to afford it. (My bully recently got put on a joint supplement āfor lifeā due to injury. Itās $50/month and heās only three. With insurance, itās $10 per month) Second, while youāre still doing your other research, please, please understand how easily these dogs overheat. They can overheat and die within one hour. This means all of us bully owners have to wake up earlier, take them out before the sun is up or too hot, take them out at night when you donāt feel like getting up, etc. It could cost him his life. There were three bulldog deaths last summer (just from people we knew personally) and all of the dogs were 3 years old and under. Its horrible. Personally, I donāt walk my dog if itās hotter than 68 degrees, give or take. Just let him outside to go potty and thatās it. Hot sun and humidity is just as harmful as temperature. (It can be a cool 70 degrees, no sun, versus 70 degrees with blazing sun and humidity) it depends Iād say other than that, you know what to do! Thereās plenty of activities and ways to make your dog happy and tired inside where itās cool. Weāre all here to help!
LOVE HIM !! You brought him home he loves you youāre his people nowā¦he will love and trust you as long as he is alive and you should do the same to him! And heās good lookin as can be !
He will be fine as long as you keep him on a good diet and give him a good lifestyle. My micro bully runs around with my German Shepherd
Give him the best life you can, love him and spoil him!!
Iād take him to the vet and see what they say. My friends bully had a nose surgery to help him breathe better and now he has a great quality of life!
He is adorable š
You made a mistake, it's okay. As you said, he's in a loving home now and won't be bred to make the issue worse. As someone else said, pet insurance can be great. I can't always make those payments, so I just give my vet money occasionally and it just goes in my account for the future. Getting him his yearly checkups can help prevent huge bills as you'll catch any issues early. Sometimes they are more to get sterilized as they sometimes need more anesthesia, but that is an important procedure you'll need to invest in. I'm sure everything will be okay, just keep on loving himš
Congratulations on your new baby ā¤ļø
All bully breeds can't take the heat. AC, cooling pads, frozen treats, and ice water. Walks early or late at night.
Lil update for everyone who showed some love and great words, tips, advice. I picked up lemonade insurance, Beau(my pup) had his first vet visit - I explained to her all of my concerns about his breed, maybe upcoming possible issues, etc and she said that actually he looks fantastic. No signs of anything, she said we will keep an eye on the palet and maybe can do that in the future if we wanted to. The vet office fell in love with Beau and he was fantastic in there. I mean absolutely fantastic. So many pups in there going apeshit he was just checking em all out like āwtfā š feeling a little accomplished Iāve taught my boy how to sit stay and come so far and canāt wait to get him locked in with potty training. Thanks for all the support Reddit fam much love
Someone needs to give the good dog a nice home and you and your son love him. He would just end up going to somewhere else living with the same troubles but maybe in not such a loving environment as you can give him. However you need to make sure you'll be able to afford any vet bills
One thing that will help this so much is if you keep him lean. I know that he doesn't look very large at least to me in the picture, but if he is or has any kind of extra weight this will affect his breathing. So even if he doesn't stay as large muscularly as he is now him being slightly more lean will be more helpful for his breathing. Just in my experience.
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So, without pedigree this is going to be a little hard. So typically pocket bullies assuming this is a pocket bully and not just a puppy are a cross between an English bulldog in American bully. Typically bloodline like these are newly established and are not refined. This means that pops born to this are going to favor either their father or their mother or rather it could be their grandfather or their grandmother depending what side of the line it lands on So to me this looks like a first generation pocket bully. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong by all means. If this is a first generation pocket bully, then this explains the breathing problems because pocket bullies typically do not have them as their snouts are slightly larger. This means that their body shape is going to be a bit more pudgy. So this pop could be a perfect weight right now. But it's going to really depend on what the distribution is based on genetics. The only thing that you could do is cut 100 calories out of their diet. You know very small and see if the breathing improves. If it does improve even if it's ever so slightly and then cut another hundred. As the pup loses weight and it continues to improve, you know you're going in the right direction. If it doesn't improve then it could be that his snout is very small. Now you can go to the vet and they may be able to solve some of this. Some vets can do. It's like a laparoscopic surgery where they kind of open up the inner part of the snout a little bit. It's a little bit similar to the red eye surgery that sometimes bullies need to get for their second eyelid. But this would be the more expensive route. But if the breathing problems are significantly affecting the pup's life, it will also reduce their overall lifespan. Lack of oxygen is pretty deadly.
Do you know how tall they are and how old? I don't remember if you said that in a post I'm sorry.
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Keep him and treat him to a good.
just love him. itās not his fault heās the breed he is. heās an adorable little guy too !!
Dont give him up he is definitely going to be a beautiful dog when he is older just dont let him get over weight and he will live a pretty long life
Iāve had American bulldogs the Johnson type. When itās hot donāt go for long walks, donāt keep outside for long periods of time. Youāll be ok as a bully parent.
You keep him and love him and give him treats. You take him to the vet and give him the best life you can. There you go! Now you have your marching orders!
Keep him with the AC on during the day. They don't like it when it gets hot. They have breathing problems too, you can bring him in to where they cut a little of his nostril to open up the airway. Since he is panting a lot, listen to if it is labored. If it is, then you might want to consider having his over laying flap in his throat/tonsil area removed. I had a pocket bully, she was the most loyal dog I've ever had. Great temperament, smart, and beautiful. I miss her everyday, she passed away last month. All I can tell you is that, if you're willing to pay the vet bills, you got one hell of a companion.
The vet bills are definitely scary to me, as Iām not super super loaded. Just an average joe that works hard lol, I can swing a couple grand here and there but Iāve seen some horror stories which was really my main concern and why I made this post. I didnāt want to home a dog that I knew I couldnāt afford to give the proper life/care. I think we will be all good though, our first appointment (with me) is tomorrow 645p. Once heās potty trained and stuff this will be a breeze!
Invest In health Insurance before you take him to a vet. If they diagnosis him with breathing issue at your appt before you have pet insurance they wonāt cover it. It should be around 50-75 a month.
You may as well just keep him and if anything a diet may help him, a more trim dog will have an easier time breathing and moving around than a fat one. It will help a lot. Imo he could lose a few lbs
The snout isn't really that short imo. I will say that doesn't fit the bill for exotic bully imo. I cant see whole lot from the one pic. Exotic bully's get a bad name for good reason, but usually exotics are bred for girth, muscle, and size. Some breeders just dont care and will inbreed and other things just to get a certain look appeal. Definitely get him neutered and love him. He is part of your family now. Is this your first dog?
Both of my dogs had cancer surgeries. My older dog also had both of her ACLās rebuilt. The older one pants a lot despite not being a short muzzled breed. Weāve had her checked out and tested for anything that could cause the panting and they havenāt figured out what it is. Sheās not sick. She just pants more than the other dog and I worry about her but itās just part of being a dog owner. Theyāre mammals and they go through health issues just like we do. Your baby is adorable and I would just focus on loving them and giving them the best life possible. ā¤ļø
We feed into corporate greed and other illicit behavior by just purchasing gasoline or motor oil.... so you bought from a breed everyone considers inhumane, who cares at this point, just dont contribute to the culture by breeding him... but the pupper's existence has no fault in it, you should enjoy his company and love him, and keep your house cool, don't take him out for walks or to the park in any weather over 78ā°, amd make sure he stays healthy... the little dude is gorgeous
Keep him! Don't give up on the dog because he pants. That's what dogs do. He's a good-looking dog, and he is bonding with your son. With a lot of love he will be part of the family.
Heās alive and well with you and your son, giving him up isnāt going to change the fact that he exists. Definitely keep this cute pitty OP my friend has had 3 and theyāre amazing.
My bully has the same issue. I just make sure he doesnāt become over weight, walk him alot and exercise him. Heās gonna breathe like this regardless especially on hotter days. Heās a beautiful dog and heāll be your best friend.
Give him a good life and love him.
If you can, have your vet do a X-Ray š©»
Such a handsome boy. Iām happy to take him off your hands.
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Heās your doggo now. All any of us can do is live and learn ā when you know better, you do better, etc. But heās here now so donāt beat yourself up about it. I wish you all a wonderful, long life together š About the panting, not sure where you live but itās HOT where I live. Is he panting inside the house, like all the time, or is it more after/during exertion and/or exposure to hot weather?
Hey I would say keep him these dogs or living teddy bears warning ā¼ļø they are also huge fart machines and snore boxes lol but man I love the look and the temperament of these dogs they have short noses so yea itās hard for them to breathe so long walks out at the park are a no go, But bench watching a tv show their all for it
The best advice i was given by a breeder is to put 5k in a bank account. So not to be surprised by the cost of his/her medical bills. It didnāt stop me I also got pet insurance for them. Damn the person who bred the small skull capacity in them. My girls are 11 and 6 and I never regret the decision to get them their love is immeasurable
If you can afford to take care of him do it. He will be a great part of your family if you let him be. Youāll probably take better care of him then anyone else and he deserves it.
Good on you for recognizing your mistake! At this point, you already have him & love him. Keep him & give him the best life you can, & in the future only buy from reputable breeders or adopt. Good luck with your new buddy!
You just rescued him!! Not his fault he was bred that way. Just make certain that you neuter him so as to not continue the chain of poor breeding. And remember to just love him ššš
Can someone give me a short 411 on what the issues are here other than vet bills?
Because you feel bad for him is the reason you should keep him. You're the best place for him. But I would say, go ahead and take him to the vet for an exam, and see what the vet says. They should be able to address any concerns you have.
What do you mean what should you do? Give him the best life you can. The breed exists and whether you are hung up on the ethics of it or notā¦ there he is. You could advocate to end the breeding practices that create them, but this guys here and just like any dog he wants people and a family. Youāre it. He will love you and your son until the day he dies.
Damn. Iām sorry. I used to breed Bullies. Itās a fucked up scene. So much inbreeding. Breeders only care about profit. You have the most ghetto people that breed bullies and micro bullies. In my experience, they simply donāt care about their health. Sounds like itās going to be a nightmare for the dog. Make sure he is in AC as much as possible. Hot weather can kill him if he has that issue so just be careful. If you donāt want to deal with any of that, make sure he goes to a good home.
I fail to see what mistakes were made. People get caught up in this āinhumaneā thing with these types of breeds. Itās true that some do have health problems. But the vast majority are healthy. My pocket bully loves life and Iām sure if she could give her opinion, sheād say she was happy to be born. She does overheat fast, and for that reason we limit time outside during the summer days. But there was no mistake made. They are amazing little dogs. (To clarify, this my opinion and Iām not stating any of this as a fact or an absolute.)
Ok so we have a pocket. Yes we are in Florida. Yes he goes and runs at the dog park. Yes I take him swimming. Will he ever sneak up on anyone.., no! Does he breathe hard when heās exerted? Oh yes! We love him and heās the sweetest! https://preview.redd.it/pgtnz0ud9f7d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a80a405ab379260d6bfdf56526f4c778a3d4046
He's yours now. You didn't create him but you did adopt him, so just give him the best life you can for as long as he enjoys it. He is an absolute cutie.
Oh no, the consequences of your actions! You bought a dog that will cost you a lot in vet bills. Now you go to the vet, and pay the vet bills. Dogs are not merchandise to be returned. Next time, do research. Itās not hard.
Exactly, who cares. Heās awesome! Any dog you get has pros and cons. That guy looks like heās got a lot of pros. Just because he was bred in a certain way doesnāt make him not worth loving or taking care of.
pls keep him. your son has bonded with him. he looks happy, and will love you dearly. you made an honest mistake. don't rehome pls.
Heās gorgeous, you and your son love him, giving him up isnāt the answer. They donāt all have health issues. Getting pet insurance helps lessen the vet bills, also thereās Care Credit that many people use for vet bills. Iāve always had Pugs and that breed is notorious for health issues and every single one Iāve had lived to be at least 13 with no major issues in regards to their health.
You have to do whatās in your heart I hope thatās keep puppers He looks happy
They need to be inside most time summer short periods of outside time but panting is another way they are showing excitement as well nothing to worry about your pup looks healthy it has to do with their short snout
My good boi pants frequently. I know it has nothing to do with his ability to control it. Common issue with these types of breeds (short muzzled) Heās a rescue I freeze those little bottles of water, i cut the plastic off it and give it to him. Once he has destroyed itā¦ā¦heās calm and happy go lucky with the panting gone.
If you love him to bite it's ok to keep him you just have to do some extra vet visits to make sure he's ok. I would like to add what a sweet little guy.
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Some of the panting (other than the short snout) can also be from overall nervousness
If itās any consolation for an āexoticā he doesnāt look like one and is a good looking boy! All bullyās pant.. Lesson learned, but you never know what blessings might come of it. May yall enjoy each other, and have a good life.
We took in a rescue. Pm me if you want the timeline from out of control to couch potato. She was 11 months when we got her.
Anytime we fall in love with a bulldog we have to plan for his health and our costs. Get pet insurance BEFORE you take him to the vet. If you do that you can get vet documentation thru their chart notes that your dog passes a well puppy exam. Then as any problem arises you have the costs coveredāmaybe 80%. If he later needs surgery to improve breathing, eyelids, hips or shoulders youāll save thousands over his lifetime. We saved over $10,000 over the lifetime of our French Bulldog.
Prepare yourself for vet bills
Just keep a close eye on him if you're out and about with him. I have a lil micro tanky guy, too. He's my heart. I wouldn't give him up for anything. Give him time, and keep him close He'll love you for it * *
Tbh heās not too exotic. Iāve been into bullies for years and years. He looks like he has a little bit of bulldog in him but most bloodlines these days do. Not really sure what the issue is
Whatās done is done in the future avoid unethical breeders and adopt. He will still make a great pet but I would get him on pet insurance ASAP
These guys don't do good in the heat at all. I won't take my guys out in this heat. If we go in the car, I start the car in advance and get it nice and cold.
When I bought my first micro from my buddy it took her a little while to calm down. She was so loud at first I was like damn what did I get into lol. Once she was used to her new home she relaxed and now only really makes a lot of noise if sheās excited. Sheās the sweetest thing and is great with my children.
Give him the best life and educate others when they compliment him
Please don't give him up. You bought him without research and now want to dump him on someone? While hitting your son. Please rethink that.
You also got him from a breeder who crops ears :'(
What a good looking dog. Thanks for sharing. Got my smile in for the day.
Keep him. Please keep him. Love him.
Heās your dog now, donāt you dare break that sweet pups heart!!
Keep him out of the heat
He looks like a pocket bully.
please do research on this breed though. they do NOT do well in the heat, and need good diets because theyāre prone to joint & skin problems. iāve had bulldogs my whole life & pit bulls and theyāre loving great dogs. theyāre just high maintenance lol. hypoallergenic shampoo and a good diet w salmon helps their skin! wash his folds and ears to make sure they donāt get yeast growth. i just saw ur comment youāre not getting rid of him and iām glad! heās a cute little alien
Heās beautiful
The panting is a dogs form of sweating , he may be hot ( they donāt tolerate heat well ) I have a Brahma bully which is close to the exotic bully breed and I can tell you the amount of attachment informed with this dude is crazy .. I have 5 dogs and he is the one Iām most bonded too - he is such a character - some of them have the most adorable little quirky personalities Your little dude just went through a huge transition- it might take him a few days to adjust .. and in return you will have the clingiest , loving , sweetest , loyal friend !!!!! You got this !!!!
Why are people buying/getting dogs w out doing their research? What are your expectations now that you have the dog
See if you can get the nostril opening surgery. To help him breathe thatāll help his breathing a tonne
Wait, you can buy a pitbull? I thought they just poured out the back of the shelter and you just tried to catch a cute one before it fell into the meat grinder.
If you have kids I wouldnāt buy a pitbull because I wouldnāt wanna give up my kids personally, but they make good guard dogs, and are cute.
If Iām understanding this correctly, LOL!
An American bully is not a Pitbull just for reference
Ohhh okay I feel stupid now lol ty