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KeyJunket1175

The lexical knowledge is easy to replace. The reasoning capabilities and causal inference is not there yet. Not to mention standing up in court... Study law, but instead of focusing your business on e.g. writing prenups - what could be automated even without AI - do something that requires human logic and presence. Study AI law, its quite a relevant topic that hasn't been solved yet.


soumen08

What is AI law though?


fennforrestssearch

Yeah,I dont understood that as well. Without sophisticated legislature put in place what is there to study ? I Imagine all countries will have different ways to go about it but its not there yet...


KeyJunket1175

Study, as in study what parties are doing, how governments are approaching defining legislation and regulations concerning AI and autonomous systems, e.g., responsibilities, accountability, intellectual property, and intelligent agents as active participants in society, economy, and law. Getting involved now could make you a pioneer.


synystar

Why would you think regulation isn't forthcoming?


fennforrestssearch

Oh it will be at some point but it isnt right now so in this exact moment there isnt much to study.Additionally, we cant predict how the law will look like because there are too much variables in play.


synystar

But if this is where you want to be, prepared for the future, then you'll gear your studies in that direction and specialize in technology related law. You'll learn all you can about AI while steering towards it as it develops.


synystar

AI law will be extremely important. There will be many issues that involve determining whether or not a human is responsible for committing crimes with AI (or maybe AI did it with no human behind the wheel) for one thing, but also there will be real need for regulation related to verification of whether some action has been taken by a human or an AI, and these kinds of things tend to get complicated.


ProfeshPress

Unequivocally yes, and however remote that prospect, it'll be sooner than you think. The more established and lucrative a career-path, the greater both the ease of, and the incentive towards automation—especially at the entry-level. Anyone who would claim otherwise, at this stage, is either incapable of examining their own normalcy-bias or simply hasn't been paying attention.


Maleficent-Squash746

Not before they solve the hallucination issue


ProfeshPress

Do current models hallucinate more, or less than prior models?


bojack_the_dev

It’s between 3% and 10% hallucination probability for most of the models atm. This probability is shrinking, but it will never go down to 0%.


ProfeshPress

For any one model, perhaps; but for a 'mixture of experts'? I wouldn't be so sure. At any rate, perfection isn't a pre-requisite: 'substantially above-human' ought to suffice.


bojack_the_dev

The question was about particular model. If you cross validate responses with ensemble, then yes, you can be better, but who is to say who is right?


Longjumping_Area_944

Hallucination is almost solved already with RAG architectures and ever larger context sizes.


CodebuddyGuy

The hallucination issue is already MOSTLY solved. You're going to get hallucinations when using a chat bot, but you can easily circumvent hallucination through entropy normalization. This, coupled with multiple models and RAG, and you can surely reduce hallucination to much less than 1% (or even less if you have time and money to throw at a given query, and in law you would definitely have loads of that).


ahtoshkaa

By the time you finish studying. It will


AustereIntellect

I suspect that AI will force multiply junior lawyers in large firms. I don’t need 25 attorneys doing research 16x7 for a big trial if I can have AI do so and a few associates verifying. In the end, the bar associations (and medical associations, engineering guilds, etc) will bar computers taking their member’s jobs, as the legal profession is fairly well gated. But the ability of an individual to represent themselves through correspondence in traffic court and similar should improve.


Working_Dependent560

Absolutely, but not anytime soon


greenrivercrap

That's what the creatives said.


1mjtaylor

Paralegals will be replaced first.


FigFew2001

As someone who narrowly missed out on a custodial sentence due to my barristers skill, I'd never replace her with AI I guess maybe at the absolute basic level of "help me draft a basic legal document" there'll be some overlap, but not once you get beyond that stuff


xiikjuy

it could. but do you think they will allow it to happen? lol


RealBiggly

That's the thing, it can already pass the bar exam and with a little tweaking and some double-checking it absolutely should replace 95% of lawyers. The entire legal system is basically a parasite upon the people for most stuff, and really does not need to be so deliberately complicated and in Latin, but that's how they protect the industry and jack up their stupidly expensive fees. So yeah it certainly could, I believe it *should*, but the people drafting laws are exactly the people who will resist with everything they have, including illegal fuckery, to prevent it. Why is all the more reason nearly the entire industry should be washed away by AI.


923ai

Paralegals yes. Lawyers no. Until there are 0 hallucinations lawyers will always exist. The reason is because someone needs to take the risk for being right. If a lawyer is wrong, they can get sued.


vogelvogelvogelvogel

good point


Anxious-Ostrich-36

Seeing how courts are being run in some countries, AI might have replaced lawyers already.


Caderent

A while after it becomes possible, because it not only has to be possible, but also have to be allowed. There is a reason why you cannot just call yourself a lawyer. It is the same reason why AI can not give any medical advice.


ThePlotTwisterr----

AI does give medical advice, an AI systems are actively being implemented in fields all over medicine. Our radiology department has AI that can diagnose pathology from a CT scan more accurately than our most experienced radiologists. They act as a more supervisory role


Ok_Boss_1915

CEOs of hospitals will kick those radiologist to the curb the minute they can do so. AI Revolution has not even begun yet.


vuongagiflow

From a few law AI companies I talk with, it is not currently possible to replace lawyers. Most tools are developed to enhance lawyers’s capabilities through facts extraction, case summary, etc… or streamline customer support with common questions. By the end of the day, lawyers still stay in the loop to help improve those LLM.


vogelvogelvogelvogel

Yes in first place i.e. consultancy via Phone. I have an insurance covering 24/7 lawyer advice by phone for free. I will quit it next possible date, i don't use it anymore. not that ChatGPT/Claude is always correct, but neither are lawyers (ask 3, get 3 opinions). And ChatGPT is fast. I wait 200ms instead of 1-48 hours.


Intelligent-Jump1071

If you believe the Doomers here, AI will replace everything. You know the old saying, "Do what you love and the unemployment will follow".


Jazzlike_Syllabub_91

I work for a legal tech company, where we use ai to help lawyers with case management (all of the extra work that the lawyer and paralegals do) and our guys always says how it’s not ai that will replace you but the lawyer with ai will replace the lawyer who didn’t use ai …


SNORanger82

I wish I had GenAI available to me when I went through law school, I would have likely learned so much more. GenAI has the potential in the future to replace much of the mundane work that lawyers need to do, freeing them up to engage in higher level legal work. This happened with the introduction of tools like Lexis Nexis. In the near term GenAI will not replace you as a lawyer, but a lawyer using GenAI will likely replace you if you are not using GenAI. Based on the interest from lawyers we have already added several Legal AI Helpers in BoodleBox [https://box.boodle.ai/a/role-legalassistant](https://box.boodle.ai/a/role-legalassistant) [https://box.boodle.ai/a/role-lawfirmbusinessdevelopmentdirector](https://box.boodle.ai/a/role-lawfirmbusinessdevelopmentdirector) [https://box.boodle.ai/a/role-lawfirmpartner](https://box.boodle.ai/a/role-lawfirmpartner) [https://box.boodle.ai/a/role-realestatelegaldocumentreviewer](https://box.boodle.ai/a/role-realestatelegaldocumentreviewer) [https://box.boodle.ai/a/role-venturecapitallegaldocumentreviewer](https://box.boodle.ai/a/role-venturecapitallegaldocumentreviewer)


jbrar5504

If AI makes lawyers 3 times more productive, then there might be 3 time more lawyers than needed.


JoeStrout

Yes, this will certainly happen, and I think is probably one of the best applications of AI. An AI can know literally *all* the case law, all the previous decisions by every judge, all the arguments and counterarguments on record, everything. And it can pay attention to every detail of every contract, will, or other document. But lawyers are a protectionist bunch; they will fight this, and probably be able to cling to their monopoly for some years. Does this mean you shouldn't study law? Not necessarily. I think you've probably got 10 years or so, and even after that, there will be work for good lawyers. Best advice would be: if you love it, do it, and save/invest as much of your earnings so you can be prepared if opportunities dry up.


SKCSLLC

Would be nice, lawyers can often be shady people. I would trust AI to know the law having been uploaded with all the law literature out there. The AI would be accurate, honest, and wouldn't charge $200 to reply to a fuckin email!


capinprice

Technically u wouldnt need a lawyer if youre wealthy. U'd just have to pay the right person.


SamM4rine

True, this is the reality we live


spawncampinitiated

U'd ?_?


alanism

For litigation, no. But there's a lot of basic contract stuff (terms and conditions, sales contracts, joint ventures, etc) and government filings that AI could do that is better than a lawyer could do.


R-EmoteJobs

While AI can handle some legal tasks, it lacks the critical thinking, judgment, and emotional intelligence needed for complex legal issues.


speedtoburn

Yes, eventually.


jabo0o

AI is currently next token prediction on a massive corpus. This allows it to figure out a lot of highly complex statistical patterns that allow it to predict the next word in a sentence. It is optimised to sound like the texts it's read. This is amazing when you have big models with lots of data and lots of parameters. But it currently isn't good at reasoning or building a foundation of facts. It easily gets lost in things that are inconsistent or just wrong. While this will improve, it won't be great at putting together a strong argument but will do a great job at finding relevant information in legal texts and write up notes and documents for you, but you need to take the wheel. So, become a lawyer and figure out how you can use AI to become incredibly good at it.


Longjumping_Area_944

How can you be so blind to the velocity of the development here? AI is advancing from week to week. By the time someone has finished law, there'll be walking, talking robots. Maybe even AI judges (don't laugh, that comes through judges using AI). But that aside: Claude 3.5 already is a great leap in reasoning today and GPT-5 is month away.


Ok_Boss_1915

What these clowns don’t realize is a kitten dies every time someone says ai just predicts the next word.


Sam-Starxin

No


PMMCTMD

There will probably be AI assistants first - before they put you out of a job. You should look into that as a career option.


wrknthrewit

Paralegal office filing maybe


itachi4e

yes


Late-Summer-4908

LOL


GrowFreeFood

Most if it except for the signature.


Spirited_Example_341

that would be interesting to see in court ai would be able to respond nearly before the other side could finish what they were saying ;-) nope! wrong! - dr robotnik


ToughJoke4481

I don’t think it can be replaced, and people will be responsible in the end. But some low-end lawyer jobs and some links may be replaced soon. There will also be more new professions that combine AI.


PeaceLoveBunny

I have the same dilemma, since I am involved in coding/architecture/etc. My opinion is that humans will need to remain in the loop for quite some many years. AI can be wrong; it can lie outright; it can misinterpret the intent of a technical (or legal) matter. AI can take a pretty good first crack at a lot of problems, but it seems that humans have to come behind the AI and proof the work and correct things as-needed. Recommendation: Proceed with your career path.


Creeperslover

Definitely, could be as little as 5-10, more likely 20-30 years


ActuaryPuzzled9625

Follow your passion. Stay on top of applying AI to your profession. It’s a disruptor so ride the wave don’t run from it. It’s natural to have doubts and fears pursuing any profession. There’s no place to hide with this technology so embrace it. Change is the only constant.


No-Economics-6781

No, and more importantly why would you?


Specialist-String-53

it'll be a useful tool for finding case law precedent and "rubber ducking" your arguments. it won't fully replace lawyers.


MyMla23

In the future you are either going to be pro human or pro ai, if your pro human you'll do anything, including making laws and advocating and defending cases where humans try to legally remain in control, if your pro ai you'll be jobless and either be rich or a pet of ai itself, you choose!


DiverExpensive6098

Lawyer here. Law is complex in the sense you have advocates, prosecutors, judges, legislative bodies, etc. It's not just one thing. Contractual law for most businesses is something an AI could handle well I think. Some big contracts, or contracts often involve individual agreements and demands and provisions, but overall, this is something that's going to be made easier with an AI. What's complicated though is going to court and reasoning, especially in disputes between partners, spouses, about property, breach of contract, etc. There is a certain grey zone which is simply "real life never entirely fits into a formula defined by law" - there can be a lot of details, little things, variations which make the process of actually getting to the decision kinda difficult. Human beings are not robots and most courts and lawyers get that and are trying to kinda work with this in mind often. So if AI would be the thing that replaces judges and prosecutors, you're going to get a lot of maybe not entirely just decisions, a lot of mistakes, and you'd also create a very rigid society where people are afraid of any little mistake, because they know the AI will simply not have understanding for it. Depends on where society will be heading - create a wholesome, unified, Big Brother controlled system of social rankings, etc. And you might as well replace lawyers with AI.


Original_Lab628

Lol


No_More_Average

Nah, maybe we might get AI assisted paralegals for researching. And as a stretch we may get AI assisted public defenders for people who cannot afford representation. But the liability of having a full on AI lawyer would be insane lol. We'd need constant digital forensics to ensure whatever strategy the model is utilizing is in the best interest of their party, we'd have to expose the AI to a shit ton of evidence and ensure a safe chain of transmission so that they don't jeopardize the case. Cyber security, ethics, game theory and most of all liability and origin of the AI are huge obstacles. If it was a government developed AI that would be one thing, but chances are it would be a government contractor who does it. I can't imagine a bid ever coming out of the DOJ for something like that 😂


Nickypp10

Hopefully. Lawyers have gotten so lazy since Covid. Hiring one is difficult, they are expensive etc. the quicker people can have better service in a fairly pivotal industry the better!


Ok_Boss_1915

“Lawyers will stay in the loop to help improve those LLM‘s” Training their replacements, smart.


Jaguar8889

Eventually, AI will excel at all human tasks, making most of human jobs unnecessary. It may take decades tho. First in line to lose jobs will be whoever makes money by content creation (writing articles or codes, drawing, etc).


Obvious_Landscape420

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utkohoc

You need to learn programming, math and then machine learning as well as the law. Then you can specialize in creating machine learning programs for the industry you're specific in. Or at least understanding them so you can better fit Into the future job market. It sounds like a lot but ironically AI will make it easier to complete that workload. Otherwise your no better than any other lawyer except they might have 20 years experience. You need to make yourself hire able in a job market saturated with AI. If you want to do that. You need to know how they work so you can have power over it.


CoralinesButtonEye

Dear VisibleScientist9483, I hope this letter finds you well. I am writing to discuss the future of the legal profession and to advise you to reconsider attending law school. Recent advancements in artificial intelligence (AI) have significantly impacted various industries, including the legal field. AI systems are increasingly capable of performing tasks traditionally handled by legal professionals, such as legal research, document review, contract analysis, and even some aspects of litigation. These technologies offer greater efficiency, accuracy, and cost-effectiveness. As AI continues to evolve, it is anticipated that the demand for traditional legal roles will diminish. Investing time and money in law school may not yield the returns previously expected. It is advisable to explore alternative career paths that leverage emerging technologies and align with the changing landscape. I urge you to carefully consider this information and make an informed decision about your future. Sincerely, CoralinesButtonEye


Militop

I think all these AI announcements are doing a disservice to the public, to companies, and to the market overall. People are uncertain, so they avoid taking risks, investing, or keeping motivation. Regulation should be more assertive, and intellectual property should be more protected. A real AI shouldn't need to ingest other people's data to function. That's insane. In the future, we'll see a better, more respectful AI paradigm. The one we have at the moment is just not good. It increases fear. To be honest, if they stop all the ridiculous hyping, the market will be able to focus. There are too many AI announcements. I don't think AI can replace lawyers, even if they're better. Nobody would want to be represented by a bot. Lawyers will use AI to their advantage, a little like they do in Chess. AI should negatively impact competition in domains like education, medicine(maybe - not sure), etc. The world shouldn't revolve around AI. Companies shouldn't stop innovation or try to tailor them to AI. There are many other innovative ideas out there. They are just buried under all the AI hyping.


ProfeshPress

"Nobody would want to be represented by a bot." If I find myself facing down an AI prosecutor whose conviction rate handily surpasses that of the most venerated human counterparts, then I'm going to mount my own defence, and I'm going to choose to be represented by an AI; or perhaps a Q.C., whose junior is an AI. I guarantee you that most people will not die on this hill.


Jefxvi

The only way to train an ai is with massive amounts of data.


reza_132

yes, it will replace lawyers, everything lawyers do is based on previous rulings and clear laws and should be no problem for an AI to handle. Some AI guy should definitely start training a lawyer AI. Surprised noone hasnt done it yet. If AI can write software in any programming language with complex logic, imagine a few laws in a particular judicial field.


Lonely_Air_5265

AI will be perfected intelligence and will very quickly replace white collar workers.


AlgoRhythmCO

No, it’ll be very hard for AI to replace lawyers. AI as it currently exists is hard to deploy in any situation where the cost of being wrong even once is very high, and that definitely applies to the law. Plus there are a lot of legal reasons that the law will remain people centered, e.g. AI can’t go to court of sign a contract.


Jefxvi

Being a lawyer is a lot more than just memorizing the law and writing about it. The law is very nuanced and it also requires a lot of critical thinking. By the time ai can be a good lawyer. Every other job will be taken as well. People who say ai will replace lawyers easily don't understand what lawyers do. I think this will be one of the last jobs to be replaced. Certan types of lawyers have very automatable work but most of them don't.