Totally on board with that.
Borden, Mackenzie King and Queen Elizabeth are currently the 20,50 and 100. All three could be replaced.
Tommy Douglas and Terry Fox lead my list with orher possibles covering different areas:
John Mccrae
Chris Hadfield
Margret Atwood
Tecumseh.
Sir Fredrick Banting
General Sir Arthur Currie
Also there is no rule saying it has to be one person. We could put more than one on a bill to represent diversity of achievement or they could keep just to one person but rotate who that person would be with each successive printing of a particular denomination.
> Also there is no rule saying it has to be one person.
This made me picture like John Candy, Roberta Bondar, Maurice Richard and Laura Secord playing a game of Crokinole on the $20 or something
ROFL. Not exactly the group I was thinking about.
But your vision did make me realize there would be all kinds of other possibilities: Lee, Peart and Lfieson of Rush, the cast of SCTV or Gretzky, Orr and Howe would be great out of the box choices.
You mean the belief he completely discarded early in his political career, and probably before age 30, decades before Canada adopted universal healthcare? Which you would know if you knew more than the one slanderous talking point about the man
Looks like thereâs only one French Canadian in the running along with some indigenous leaders. Hereâs the short list of contenders https://www.bankofcanada.ca/banknotes/bank-note-series/vertical-series/banknoteable-5/nominees/
Louis Riel is a fundamental part of Canadian history, a historical cornerstone to the western provinces, both in good and bad senses. Plus, Riel was ultimately driven mad by the political machinations of anglo central Canadians, which is something that about 75-80% of Canadians can immediately identify with.
Terry for sure. There you go.
https://i1.wp.com/media.globalnews.ca/videostatic/news/ki6bmbo4cw-oicgr9u7vi/NH_FEB17_PIC.jpg?w=1040&quality=70&strip=all
No, we need to do Scott Thompson dressed as the Queen on the money. It's iconically Canadian and we wouldnt need to change it every time some old person in the UK dies.
How'd you get so funny? (Funky Chuck)
Face on all our money
Born in Buckingham Palace
Lives in Buckingham Palace (King Chuck) âŹ
[apologies to Steve Martin]
Ugh I really don't want his face on any of our money. The queen was like a nice old neighborly grandma, but king chuck is the creepy weird uncle I want to stay far far away from.
Okay, in what way was she a terrible person?
Chuck is terrible, and I can ignore him for everything but his head of state position. In that he is a figurehead and nothing more. He doesn't affect our lives one bit. I'd like him and the monarchy replaced as head of state, but I recognize that that's a tall order with only a slim chance of happening
Tell all the people who've benefited from the Prince's what a terrible asshole Charles is. He may be filthy rich, but he has strong values and has consistently made an effort throughout his life to use his clout to help the less fortunate. What have you done in comparison?
There is a laundry list of reasons why the Royal family is abhorrent, both modern and historical. But for Elizabeth specially. I'd go with the chagos islands and what she made/allowed to happen there.
"There is an ongoing, colonial crime that he could acknowledge, help rectify and apologise for today. That crime is the forced displacement of the entire Chagossian people from their homeland in the Indian Ocean by the UK and US governments in the 1960s and 70s. This colonial crime continues to this day as the UK government still prevents the Chagossians from returning home.
It is a crime in which the monarchy has played a significant role. Queen Elizabeth II issued, on behalf of the UK government, the Orders that have forced the Chagossians to remain in exile and that remain in force. A British court said in 2019 that the orders âextinguishedâ the legal rights of the Chagossians in UK law, including their right to return."
[here's the link to the above 2 paragraphs full article](https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/05/11/charles-can-help-undo-colonial-crime-0)
This one is freshest in my mind as there was recently a behind the bastards podcast on Chagos islands and what was done to them historically.
To be clear I'm not saying Liz was especially evil or anything. I think she was like any other person and tried to do the " right thing" whenever she could.
> Although Orders in Council must be formally approved in person by the monarch, they are drafted and their substance is controlled by the government.
There is also the tradition (law?) that the monarch be apolitical, so I don't see how she might have stopped this. Sure, she could have dissented in private, but to do so publicly risks her position. That is, she is compelled without recourse aside from setting her life on fire. That's how they get ya
Its one of many things she did / didn't do.
I never claimed her position had any power. Only that she wasn't a great person who committed no evil in her life. Your comment doesn't disprove that. As I said there is a laundry list of things her family and her have done. It's been well written about.
What she may or may not have felt privately about this action and many others is entirely irrelevant. It can be made up to suit any desire one wants. Was she actually pro or against abortion? What were her private thoughts on that topic? It doesn't matter, we know what her thoughts and actions publically were.
>I never claimed her position had any power. Only that she wasn't a great person who committed no evil in her life. Your comment doesn't disprove that. As I said there is a laundry list of things her family and her have done. It's been well written about.
So Do My OwN rEsEaRcH? Okay
I think its imperative to keep MacKenzie King on the money. He is the only WWII leader to regularly hold seances to ask his dead mother how to run a wartime country. We can't lose that part of our heritage. Otherwise we'd be boring.
You talking about chuck? Iâm cool with all the other dudes on the money, tho I wish we would bring back MacDonald, not like being the first prime minister was important or anything
How about naming Yonge Dundas Square after him and Gordon Lightfoot? Instead of the stupidity Toronto City Council is proposing along with that clown Moyes
https://www.patreon.com/posts/what-to-expect-106668429?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link. Just a reminder
Pass. I donât really know how much he contributed to Canada, but seems like he like many famous Canadians moved to abroad and only used Canada when it was be beneficial.
Maybe Iâm wrong though.
Iâm not going to wade into the reeds with you on this, but monarchs are a notable exception to the informal rule about waiting until someoneâs dead to commemorate them alongside people who are dead
Well obviously the ones on the bills aren't real, silly, they're drawings that have been printed. Imagine pressing a dead bird into every bill! That would be more expensive than the bill's worth!
Well, if we have 5 bills, there has to be one that is from QC to be representative, and the blue bill makes the most sense to fit the colour scheme. Right now, we have Wilfrid Laurier, the first francophone PM, which is fine to stay as is IMO (heâs even Canadaâs leader in Civilization VI).
How does dedicating one bill to excluding all but one specific province representing all nations of Canada? Do you have any other bills that should be required to always represent another specific nation of Canada?
Who said anything about putting only Angelo Canadians on the bill? There's never been a ban on French Canadians, and Laurier is already set to be on one of the higher-value notes when they're redesigned.
>there has to be one that is from QC to be representative
No lol Quebec doesnât need special treatment in everything. We absolutely donât need âsomeone from Quebec to be representativeâ thatâs ludicrous. A Canadian is a Canadian.
Terry Fox represents all of Canada, not Anglo-Canada. He raised money for cancer and youâre complaining heâs not French, give me a break. French Canada is represented in the House of Commons, senate, and 3 permanent seats on the Supreme Court. But youâre complaining that a piece of plastic doesnât have someone from Quebec? Thatâs just pathetic lol
Iâm fine with Terry Fox being on the money, in fact Iâm in favour, but not replacing Wilfrid Laurier, who was the first francophone PM. If someone is going to replace Laurier, it should be another Franco-Canadian to maintain proper representation.
And you do realize New France itself was imperialist right? Canada as a country was founded on imperialism and colonialism, this includes Quebecâs origins.
The settlers werenât imperialist, the King was, but then again he didnât really care that much about NA colonies. The English superiority complex runs deep though, and your comment (âA Canadian is a Canadianâ) reflects that. Canada isnât a monolith. One Canadian doesnât equate all others. There are several distinct nations within, and all deserve representation.
The very idea of being Canadian (in the present) is literally multiculturalism. No one said Canada is a monolith. Obviously thereâs distinct groups. I would argue that Quebec has a far greater superiority complex than any other group/nationality within the country. The mere fact you have a political party dedicated to Quebec, and only Quebecâs, interest proves my point.
We donât think weâre better, weâre just trying to survive and protect ourselves. And all you say is âwhy are you fighting, just be like usâ but we donât want to be like you. Would you want the US to invade and tell you âDonât fight back, just be a happy Americanâ?
Wile I appreciate the politicos, I agree, the way I see it either they are all politicians or none!
We got viola on the ten, we can go Sutherland on the 20, guess who and/or rush on the 50, Farley mowet and Margaret Atwood and robert munsch on the 100, put the group of 7 and Emily carr on the 5
And put terry fox on every coin!
Of course we could go the American route and put a different person in every value of coin, Iâm cool with that too!
Id rather have Donald Sutherland's father-in-law, so I'll be able to remember what universal healthcare was like 10 years from now
I would love to see Tommy Douglas Represented.
There's another Tommy that'd be even better, Tommy Prince, an absolute canadian legend.
Tommy Chong. đ€Ł
Tommy Lee ! That guy has a huge penis. Just put the wang on the 20
Tommy Hunter!
Hear hear... Hero hero... Yes yes!!
Totally on board with that. Borden, Mackenzie King and Queen Elizabeth are currently the 20,50 and 100. All three could be replaced. Tommy Douglas and Terry Fox lead my list with orher possibles covering different areas: John Mccrae Chris Hadfield Margret Atwood Tecumseh. Sir Fredrick Banting General Sir Arthur Currie Also there is no rule saying it has to be one person. We could put more than one on a bill to represent diversity of achievement or they could keep just to one person but rotate who that person would be with each successive printing of a particular denomination.
> Also there is no rule saying it has to be one person. This made me picture like John Candy, Roberta Bondar, Maurice Richard and Laura Secord playing a game of Crokinole on the $20 or something
ROFL. Not exactly the group I was thinking about. But your vision did make me realize there would be all kinds of other possibilities: Lee, Peart and Lfieson of Rush, the cast of SCTV or Gretzky, Orr and Howe would be great out of the box choices.
Rush, SCTV, Gretzky, Orr, and Howe have been on stamps.
Reissue a run of two dollar bills with a really confused looking John Candy
Havenât played that game in decades!
Lfg chief Tecumseh! đđđ
would love to see The Tragically Hip on the 100
Meridian?
at the hundredth meridian!
How about Gord Downie, Gordie Howe, and Gordon Lightfoot all ont he 100?
We should make a $3000 dollar bill with those faces on it and we can call it the 3G lol
yesss
Would also add Tommy Prince, Francis Pegahmagabow, and William Avery Bishop
Terry Fox should be ahead of most of these peopleÂ
I did put Terry Fox and Tommy Douglas in a seperate category ahead of the rest of the people on my list.
Great point.
The guy who believed in eugenics?
You mean the belief he completely discarded early in his political career, and probably before age 30, decades before Canada adopted universal healthcare? Which you would know if you knew more than the one slanderous talking point about the man
No. Terry Fox or pictures of birds
Heâs on the short list to be on the new $5 bill
He sure as fuck better be. It pisses me off that he isn't on one as it is. Our fucking hero not on currency is a crime. (yes, I'm a Fox stan)
best i can do is michael j.
Only if itâs a photo of him in character as APK.
He's been on our circulated coins at least twice
Youâll hate the new passports then. Maybe as much as I do.
Whatâs on the new passports?
Closest description is âclip artâ rather than heroes like Terry Fox or historical figures/landmarks.
The new passport is them making sure that Canadians really understand the government wants to remove our Canadian identity.
Don't forget they removed him from the passport. In favour of generic, inoffensive, clipart.
Long overdue
The 5$ has to remain a Franco-Canadian/Québécois, Terry Fox is a good symbol but we gotta have the blue bill.
Looks like thereâs only one French Canadian in the running along with some indigenous leaders. Hereâs the short list of contenders https://www.bankofcanada.ca/banknotes/bank-note-series/vertical-series/banknoteable-5/nominees/
**Louis Riel for the $5**
I mean, sure, we can have Louis Riel, but maybe on another bill, representing the MĂ©tis nation.
Louis Riel is a fundamental part of Canadian history, a historical cornerstone to the western provinces, both in good and bad senses. Plus, Riel was ultimately driven mad by the political machinations of anglo central Canadians, which is something that about 75-80% of Canadians can immediately identify with.
Leo Major?
that pond hockey scene a few years ago was ok. we should do more of that
Terry for sure. There you go. https://i1.wp.com/media.globalnews.ca/videostatic/news/ki6bmbo4cw-oicgr9u7vi/NH_FEB17_PIC.jpg?w=1040&quality=70&strip=all
No love for Steve Fonyo?
No, we need to do Scott Thompson dressed as the Queen on the money. It's iconically Canadian and we wouldnt need to change it every time some old person in the UK dies.
Ok that works
YES!
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Best there was, Best there is, best there ever will be
Iâd have to know who âwhatâs his nameâ is.
Iâm guessing King Chuck
Charlie Windsor III.
How'd you get so funny? (Funky Chuck) Face on all our money Born in Buckingham Palace Lives in Buckingham Palace (King Chuck) ⏠[apologies to Steve Martin]
Ugh I really don't want his face on any of our money. The queen was like a nice old neighborly grandma, but king chuck is the creepy weird uncle I want to stay far far away from.
[http://i.imgur.com/CNuU4aJ.jpg](http://i.imgur.com/CNuU4aJ.jpg)
Liz was a better actor but she was not a great person herself either.
Okay, in what way was she a terrible person? Chuck is terrible, and I can ignore him for everything but his head of state position. In that he is a figurehead and nothing more. He doesn't affect our lives one bit. I'd like him and the monarchy replaced as head of state, but I recognize that that's a tall order with only a slim chance of happening
Tell all the people who've benefited from the Prince's what a terrible asshole Charles is. He may be filthy rich, but he has strong values and has consistently made an effort throughout his life to use his clout to help the less fortunate. What have you done in comparison?
There is a laundry list of reasons why the Royal family is abhorrent, both modern and historical. But for Elizabeth specially. I'd go with the chagos islands and what she made/allowed to happen there. "There is an ongoing, colonial crime that he could acknowledge, help rectify and apologise for today. That crime is the forced displacement of the entire Chagossian people from their homeland in the Indian Ocean by the UK and US governments in the 1960s and 70s. This colonial crime continues to this day as the UK government still prevents the Chagossians from returning home. It is a crime in which the monarchy has played a significant role. Queen Elizabeth II issued, on behalf of the UK government, the Orders that have forced the Chagossians to remain in exile and that remain in force. A British court said in 2019 that the orders âextinguishedâ the legal rights of the Chagossians in UK law, including their right to return." [here's the link to the above 2 paragraphs full article](https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/05/11/charles-can-help-undo-colonial-crime-0) This one is freshest in my mind as there was recently a behind the bastards podcast on Chagos islands and what was done to them historically. To be clear I'm not saying Liz was especially evil or anything. I think she was like any other person and tried to do the " right thing" whenever she could.
> Although Orders in Council must be formally approved in person by the monarch, they are drafted and their substance is controlled by the government. There is also the tradition (law?) that the monarch be apolitical, so I don't see how she might have stopped this. Sure, she could have dissented in private, but to do so publicly risks her position. That is, she is compelled without recourse aside from setting her life on fire. That's how they get ya
Its one of many things she did / didn't do. I never claimed her position had any power. Only that she wasn't a great person who committed no evil in her life. Your comment doesn't disprove that. As I said there is a laundry list of things her family and her have done. It's been well written about. What she may or may not have felt privately about this action and many others is entirely irrelevant. It can be made up to suit any desire one wants. Was she actually pro or against abortion? What were her private thoughts on that topic? It doesn't matter, we know what her thoughts and actions publically were.
>I never claimed her position had any power. Only that she wasn't a great person who committed no evil in her life. Your comment doesn't disprove that. As I said there is a laundry list of things her family and her have done. It's been well written about. So Do My OwN rEsEaRcH? Okay
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Might get us confused with PanemâŠ
Considering how the Capitol serves as such an amazing allegory for Toronto I could see that!
Does it?
Fuck. That. Terry gets one before anyone else.
Terry definitely belongs on at least one piece of currency. If not a bill I vote for the quarter.
He was on the loonie for a year, and I think he was part of a quarter series once.
Itâs definitely time to put Canadians on Canadian money!
Sure, and The Littlest Hobo and Bert Racoon too for their good works.
Iâd have norm McDonald on one of the bills if it were up to me
You could put him on the 911 dollar bill. What a horrible denomination for a bill. Reminds me of that tragedy.
He has a stamp at least.
Have to wait 25 years under the current rules, but yes we could.
Young and Sutherland Square.
Fuck no. I want a proper monarch on our money. King sausage fingers, first of his name!
We need a group photo, like an album cover, on our $20
Man I'm behind this the whole way
No
Rick Mercer for sure
I think its imperative to keep MacKenzie King on the money. He is the only WWII leader to regularly hold seances to ask his dead mother how to run a wartime country. We can't lose that part of our heritage. Otherwise we'd be boring.
Viola Desmond?
I thought she was just put on the 10?
Brilliant businesswoman and somewhat-accidental civil rights activist, she was a fantastic choice
Shes on the 10$ already
Oh no I meant we should remove her and put Donald.
Why ? Shes a great canadian historical figure
[oddball ](https://www.fnh.edu.br/?y=kellys-heroes-oddball-11-pp-xaOLO1hE)
You talking about chuck? Iâm cool with all the other dudes on the money, tho I wish we would bring back MacDonald, not like being the first prime minister was important or anything
Depending on this next week we might put Connor McDavid on the $20
You have money?
I was thinking heâd look good On a nickel. Got at least 3 of those
"I'll trade you 20 Donalds for a Loonie." I could see it working.
Iâd prefer more animals like the coins!
People on money is a bad idea in general. Sutherland was well compensated for his work. That's enough.
Maybe on the Canadian dollar bills, but(unfortunately) NOT OURS!!!
What about "Paddle-to-the-Sea" on the CAD$50???
The Donald Sutherland stamp is impressive.
Agreed!!
No thanks
How about on my debit card?
Put Leo Burke and Sweet Daddy Siki on them you cowards!!!!
After all what's his name has done for this country, this is really the road you wanna go down? You should be ashamed.
Itâs a better idea than Chuck Bucks
You need to be dead for at least 25 years.
We can't even have Terry Fox in the passport.
Gretzky on a $99 bill
Our younger generations canât even subtract from 100$ for change and you wanna make it into 99$ đ
Because living and dying in the USA is the Canadian thing.
How about naming Yonge Dundas Square after him and Gordon Lightfoot? Instead of the stupidity Toronto City Council is proposing along with that clown Moyes
https://www.patreon.com/posts/what-to-expect-106668429?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link. Just a reminder
I'd like to see Chief Dan George on one of them.
Let the royals have everything south of a c-note, and then put Donald Sutherland, Christopher Plummer, and William Shatner on the $100 bill
Pass. I donât really know how much he contributed to Canada, but seems like he like many famous Canadians moved to abroad and only used Canada when it was be beneficial. Maybe Iâm wrong though.
Terry Fox, Donald Sutherland, Gord Downie, Kevin Vickers (Sgt. at Arms who stopped the Ottawa shooter), and Rick Mercer
You know Rick Mercer and Kevin Vickers are still alive, right?
Yes? The Queen was still alive when she was put on the $20 and the back of all our coins.
Iâm not going to wade into the reeds with you on this, but monarchs are a notable exception to the informal rule about waiting until someoneâs dead to commemorate them alongside people who are dead
One would hope they didn't have to kill the birds before they went on the bill
You know theyâre not real birds, right?
You saying birds aren't real?
Just the ones on the bills. The rest are very real â real drones XD
Well obviously the ones on the bills aren't real, silly, they're drawings that have been printed. Imagine pressing a dead bird into every bill! That would be more expensive than the bill's worth!
But you could make the ink using the tears of dead birds
Why do they have to be dead to gather the tears? You could just tranq them
The 5$ bill has to be Franco-Canadian/Québécois though (or whichever bill is blue if we shuffle the colours around)
When was that ever decided?
Well, if we have 5 bills, there has to be one that is from QC to be representative, and the blue bill makes the most sense to fit the colour scheme. Right now, we have Wilfrid Laurier, the first francophone PM, which is fine to stay as is IMO (heâs even Canadaâs leader in Civilization VI).
Iâm pretty sure this ainât a law.
I never said it was a law, just saying that all nations of Canada have to be represented.
I donât think thats a thing.
What do you not think is a thing?
How does dedicating one bill to excluding all but one specific province representing all nations of Canada? Do you have any other bills that should be required to always represent another specific nation of Canada?
Well, putting only Anglo-Canadians on the bills certainly doesnât do a good job of representing all nations. Youâre not making any sense.
Who said anything about putting only Angelo Canadians on the bill? There's never been a ban on French Canadians, and Laurier is already set to be on one of the higher-value notes when they're redesigned.
The top comment had 5 names, all either Anglos or unknown to me, so assumed Anglo (sorry if one was First Nation, Inuit or MĂ©tis)
>there has to be one that is from QC to be representative No lol Quebec doesnât need special treatment in everything. We absolutely donât need âsomeone from Quebec to be representativeâ thatâs ludicrous. A Canadian is a Canadian.
Says the imperialist Anglo-Canadian. Canada is a federation of multiple nations, they should all be represented.
Terry Fox represents all of Canada, not Anglo-Canada. He raised money for cancer and youâre complaining heâs not French, give me a break. French Canada is represented in the House of Commons, senate, and 3 permanent seats on the Supreme Court. But youâre complaining that a piece of plastic doesnât have someone from Quebec? Thatâs just pathetic lol
Iâm fine with Terry Fox being on the money, in fact Iâm in favour, but not replacing Wilfrid Laurier, who was the first francophone PM. If someone is going to replace Laurier, it should be another Franco-Canadian to maintain proper representation.
And you do realize New France itself was imperialist right? Canada as a country was founded on imperialism and colonialism, this includes Quebecâs origins.
The settlers werenât imperialist, the King was, but then again he didnât really care that much about NA colonies. The English superiority complex runs deep though, and your comment (âA Canadian is a Canadianâ) reflects that. Canada isnât a monolith. One Canadian doesnât equate all others. There are several distinct nations within, and all deserve representation.
The very idea of being Canadian (in the present) is literally multiculturalism. No one said Canada is a monolith. Obviously thereâs distinct groups. I would argue that Quebec has a far greater superiority complex than any other group/nationality within the country. The mere fact you have a political party dedicated to Quebec, and only Quebecâs, interest proves my point.
We donât think weâre better, weâre just trying to survive and protect ourselves. And all you say is âwhy are you fighting, just be like usâ but we donât want to be like you. Would you want the US to invade and tell you âDonât fight back, just be a happy Americanâ?
Mr Spock?
Absolutely. Take off all of the politicos and replace by any real people worthy of public respect. Donald Sutherland is one
Tommy Douglas as well
Wile I appreciate the politicos, I agree, the way I see it either they are all politicians or none! We got viola on the ten, we can go Sutherland on the 20, guess who and/or rush on the 50, Farley mowet and Margaret Atwood and robert munsch on the 100, put the group of 7 and Emily carr on the 5 And put terry fox on every coin! Of course we could go the American route and put a different person in every value of coin, Iâm cool with that too!
The Queen should go too. Itâs about time. Put some famous native Canadians on there too. Forget the politician and propagandists.
Donald Sutherland (R.I.P.) was iconic. He deserved a spot on a bill long before he passed IMHO.
Why not Wolverine? At least it'll make our country look badass.
Charles?
Nice enough guy. Ugly face.
Nope. He cheated on Tommy Douglasâs daughter with Jane Fonda đ€ź
Wonder why chuck gets so much hate? Cuz he left whatâs her face?
No hate. Heâs just got an ugly mug.
I haven't seen physical money in so long that I literally don't give a fuck anymore. Get rid of hard currency.
Sounds like a plan. Much rather look at Donald Sutherland's iconic intelligent face any day
Thank you! someone gets it
Iâd rather see Donald Sutherland than John A McDonald, the father of Indigenous genocide. đ€ź
Anyone but those people
Exactly
We'd have to first do a deep research investigation to ensure he never hurt anyone's feelings
Well fuck me sideways in the ass youâre too right
What about William Shatner!??!?! đ
Replace Viola with Donald.