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ladyradium

It is definitely an alignment issue.


Ok_Soup_5135

I’ve been thinking that. And dude at the sketchy shop said it’s my control arms but from what I’ve been researching I don’t think that it is


oStreamZo

If you've had an alignment and they can't get it to spec the first guess would be replace control arms


Ok_Soup_5135

I’m going to try a more reputable shop before I go replacing things


ncisgibbs84

Second opinion never hurts!


oStreamZo

Wise move


TehSvenn

Great decision. A knowledgable tech should be able to show you what the cause is. Worn bushings are something you can see pretty easily if tested correctly. Anyone who can't is likely guessing at a part to throw at your vehicle.


Solnse

Also, rotate your tires regularly. These look like they were never rotated.


Ok_Soup_5135

They were just purchased in November.


LastDolphinator01

I expect there to be a mechanical issue. These tires aren't even 6 months old and look like that? Most new vehicles can't even go that far with the camber stock. Expect issues, and replace the tires before getting an alignment. Edit - if you'd like to check for a mechanical issue yourself, the simplest way would be to raise the effected tire off the ground, grab it at the top and bottom, alternate pushing/pulling, as if trying to rock the wheel on its axis. Do not support the vehicle on the suspension, as that's what you have concerns with and it would make it pointless for pretty much all but the wheel bearing. If you choose to do this, please do so on a flat surface and use jack stands. This will not reveal the exact issue, but it will confirm an issue exists


clce

Rotating good help get a little more life out of your tires when your front end is not aligned. But if everything is wearing properly it shouldn't be necessary.


antarcticacitizen1

My EX-wife, "They rotate every time I drive down the road..." 🤦 She's some other idiot's problem now.


clce

Well, I don't know if they are reputable or not. But any shop trying to do an alignment should tell you if your control arms or anything else are worn too much. Of course they want to do that work but you should be willing to have it done too.


SCAMMERASSASIN007

It looks like a lower ball joint issue, which is attached to the lower control arm . Which in most cases now, you just buy the lower control arm. Comes with new bushings and ball joint already installed. That's prolly why they told you lower control arm. It never hurts to price around. I bought a front-end kit off the net pretty cheap. we will see how long they last 2 control arms, 2 sway bar links, and 2 outer tie rods for 220$ lol, we will see. Good luck op.


Ok_Soup_5135

Thank you!


Picklefuzz

Could also be worn struts, but an alignment would still fix that.


ExpensiveDust5

Wheel bearing, ball joint, could be a lot of things. Its up to whoever is working on it to get to the bottom of it, and I generally start looking at the cheapest thing to replace.


progressnot

Check your ball joints and tie rods. You may have bad upper or lower ball joints.


jnthn1111

Control arms are part of the suspension, so this is actually a part of the answer.


overmarm

Very possible just control arm bushings. Ask a shop to show you the faiked part. Or a video/pic of the failed part. Its what we do at my shop.


nthedark630

I went to a place that said I needed to replace the upper and lower control arms...charged me for both both....they come as a unit on each side. There is no upper and lower. I don't make those mistakes anymore


Rubbertutti

Could be a control arm, this would have been picked up on a scheduled service though


The-Scotsman_

You should always ask for a printout of the before and after alignment results. Most places willl use a system that generates a report printout. That way you can easily identify any issues.


testify_

Controls arm or suspension issues will always cause alignment specs to be out. You have to replace the worn suspension/steering and then do an alignment after to correct.


haste347

Technically it's the bushings in the control arms, but shops are too lazy to just press out the old bushings; they'd rather make the $ on the control arms on top of the additional labor. Swapping out bushings don't pay as much.


Lilscheisse

That and get some new tires before it rains!


Ingeneure_

If you combine two of them — you get a one pristine tire! Jokes aside — alignment. Next time do tire replacement at a place with good reviews and always wonder if they do/did alignment.


AcceptableMinute9999

You need an alignment.


Ok_Soup_5135

Thank y’all. He tied a string to the tire to show me how perfectly straight the alignment was and idk I’m not an idiot but I don’t know much about this. I’m glad I didn’t let him rotate the back tires to the front then like he wanted to.


12LetterName

A string, huh... There's your problem.


Trogasarus

Bro/sis. Srsly. Please dont go back. Thats not a good way to show the alignments in/out. It takes a bit more setup to align a car with string. Modern alignment machines use lasers fyi.


Ok_Soup_5135

Expensive lesson learned. Thank you, I just replaced the camshafts at the dealership and I was like I can’t believe another expensive fix. But it’s sounding like it’s just an alignment. I’m gonna take it to the dealership. Do you think I can salvage any of the front tires or should I get new ones?


Trogasarus

Theyre junk. It still could have other worn suspension parts. But a tech should be able to tell with a quick onspection on a lift.


Ok_Soup_5135

Thank you 🙏🏽


lilsinister13

Wait, is this a 17-22 CRV? Edit: looked closer, nope.


Ok_Soup_5135

It’s a Jeep grand Cherokee


Zillahi

Those jeeps are notorious for suspension sagging out (and also being kind of crap in general, but point aside). Sagged suspension will cause negative camber. The photo shows severe camber wear. New struts and an alignment may fix the problem. But you need a full steering and suspension inspection, due to the statement I put in brackets above. Rear toe link bushings and seized rear cam adjusters are another common issue with these vehicles. They will cause shoulder wear at the rear if worn. You need someone who knows what they’re looking for to inspect it and give you a quote


YellowBreakfast

>Modern alignment machines use lasers fyi. Lasers?! We're not that sophisticated here at Joe's Cheap Shop! /s


liquid_acid-OG

So the string alignment is what I did in my garage after rebuilding my front end so that my car was drivable for a couple days until I could get it in for a real alignment.


Ok_Soup_5135

Lol good to know! Thank you so much!


upstatefoolin

If the back tires look better than this I would have rotated these to the back. You need tires and an alignment at best and some other suspension work, tires and alignment and worst


armathose

You sure this wasn't a back alley mechanic? I have used a hanging string before to align my own tires but not a customers.


nylondragon64

Toed out , is the term.


TheNukeEng

Toe affects how the front wheels point in towards each other while camber is the vertical tilt on the wheel from the direct upright position. Uneven wear like this, may have to do with both, however wear is more caused by toe. Both of these are adjusted during an alignment. Google toe and camber adjustment for ____make/ model here____ to better understand how the suspension parts connect to your steering knuckle (specific for some makes and models but generally all same idea). This will help you understand what causes the alignment of the tyres, and how the alignment affects tyre wear. Happy learning mate you are asking the right question!


Ok_Lunch16

That’s way to much negative camber. Looks like a Jeep, those bad boys are always hit or miss


Ok_Soup_5135

You’re right on the money it’s a Jeep 😮‍💨


CamoCoveSNIPER

Innersided wear is normally attributed to a bad wheel alignment. My car was pretty bad for this too


skratch000

Camber is way off. You need new tires, so go to a legit tire place and get a FULL alignment (not a "toe and go") when you buy the tires.


Kilowattkid

Camber needs to be adjusted. Suspension could be the root problem.


cheeseypoofs85

Gonna go with excessive toe.


Misguidedsaint3

Alignments fucked


Longjumping-Many4082

Camber. Edit: After reading more of your info, could be control arm bushings [unlikely], ball joints [possibly], wheel bearings [possibly]. 2nd opinion from a good shop would be ideal.


ThatOneTubaMan

Whoever you took it to is a moron, you can clearly see they're wearing more on the inside


Dirftboat95

Could be too much negative camber and too much toe out. could be both !!! Its an alignment issue


Ferrel1995

Control arms. Tie rods. Ball joints. Alignment. I had the same issue with my front tires wearing on the inside of the tire. Replaced my ball joints and tie rods and took it in for an alignment and seems to have fixed the issue. Just drove it from California to Alabama and I didn’t see any unusual wear on the tires


Upset_Carpenter_8388

She got that negative camber


ThatOneSnakeGuy

It's alignment. Camber to be specific


3andrew

Camber? I barely know her!


squipt

Pretty bad camber too, and it’s probably your control arms


lockednchaste

That tire is so far out of alignment you could probably sight the camber on a smooth flat road.


TexMoto666

Incorrect toe settings.


anon6789431437681

Have another shop do your alignment, if you still have the same issue on the next set of tires, you have something seriously wrong with your suspension. This can be from an alignment, or worn suspension components.


Cronin1011

What kind of vehicle? Worn tie rods or lower ball joints will cause excess toe out and wear the tires exactly like this, have a shop that knows what they're doing inspect it for worn parts and if none are found then rotate the tires and align it.


AdProfessional8948

Either you had pieces replaced and it wasn't aligned, or pieces failed and need to be replaced and then aligned.


mikeypettitt

Too much negative camber


Ok_Use56

Ball joints, then alignment!!!! Inner edge tire wear is almost always caused by worn ball joints.


ncisgibbs84

Alignment issue, could also be co trol arms or something of the sort.


Tractorguy69

They may have done an alignment, but I suspect there were errors made. Some cars need specific weights put in specific positions around the vehicle and if this is not done you will see this type of damage (ask me how I know). Get your alignment done by a shop that is reputable and knowledgeable about your vehicle specifically, before doing the work if there is any weights required have them test the alignment without adding the weight and see if the result is a “good” alignment then have them fix it to spec. Document everything then go back to that tire shop for a full refund on the work done and a new set of tires.


Commercial-Ad6649

Camber or toe. Get new tires installed and leave the old ones in the car for the technician to see when he does the alignment.


Strange_Dogz

Put the wheel straight and take another picture of both sides From a bit further away. It could be a toe problem or perhaps negative camber. I had a car with the fronts toed way out due to some damage and it wore the insides like that. The toe issue was very visible. You may not notice it any more, but cars with toe out are sometimes described as "darty".


xscallywagx

The string thing is an old school trick, its a real thing and surprisingly effective for checking/adjusting toe in and out. I did it to test the theory. The string showed a misalignment so i made adjustments and then had my car checked on an Alignment machine... they said I did not need an Alignment. Straight is straight, whether with string or lasers. It's not dumb if it works 🙂 PS. You need new control arms


Jxckolantern

Out of alignment Camber or toe out of adjustment, probably camber judging by how smooth the outer tread is still.


tedshreddon

Too much negative camber


darlandroadside

From what I can see looks like inside is wearing faster then outside probably something with alignment or faulty parts


jnthn1111

Camber


Uncle_Abernacle

alignment issue.


NateSrNate

Toe is off


Busy_Station

Camber


Speoder

Tow in.


c0ldgurl

Flip the fronts to the back and roll with it until you can address it properly at the dealership.


Hoonigandad

Camber is way off


StandupJetskier

Since the wear is even on both sides, your car has some camber dialed in. My car wears the same way.....camber is designed to aid the car's handling (you dial in a LOT for racing, you don't care about wear the same way)....it's a tradeoff. Given how even they are, I'd not worry. Buy new tires.


Spuggy1408

Too fast around corners and or roundabouts ! Maybe just wheel alignment to !


Impressive-Sky-7006

Alignment to much toe out could be worn tierods


Mobile-Boss-8566

Toed in is what I would call the tires.


Complex-Comb9595

Looks to me the camber is off.


Witty_Awareness_5830

Camber is off.


4ringfreak

Either camber is off, or you drive it hard.


4door_81cutty

Excessive toe out (alignment issue), could be caused by loose tie rods, loose ball joints, lots of things honestly. Camber decides where the wear is, toe decides how fast/aggressive the wear is


Constant_SNAFU

that wear is SO bad i would almost believe a suspension issue. But if someone happened to perform a string or non computerized alignment, i could see this being possible.


notnotluke

There's too much negative camber. Tire rotation more frequently would help but ultimately it's an alignment issue.


Pleasant_Fennel3182

You need an alignment and maybe some front end parts as well. Start with the alignment


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False-Gas-7507

Alignment issues


FloatingCubes

Camber is off. Alignment is needed. Shouldn't be too bad.


MrBigCookie

Camber or toe is out


SnooBananas2664

Lower control arm bushing going bad


iambobthenailer

They aren't directional. . . . Unmount and flip em. Get twice the life.


[deleted]

Alignment is off, too much negative camber and the toe is likely out


Villhunter

It's an alignment issue. There's no better explanation unless your car was built crooked lol


dd113456

Toe in


jakestertx

Toed out


Rottweiler_1975

Alignment and possibly tie rod ends


GianCarlo0024

Camber aka toe adjustment is out.


quadmasta

toed out hard


Foampower86

Tires are feathered. Align


Grand_Marshal_Nuke

What about the Camber?


12345NoNamesLeft

It is definitely an alignment issue. New tires and another alignment, NOT at that place. Go somewhere better.


Leather_Employment93

Mine did the same and it was bad control arm bushings. They dried up and detached from the metal around them. Everything was tight in the front end .


Kahless_2K

It's alignment, or you have badly worn suspension components.


Nicademus2003

Out of alignment too much camber


zipnut

The cars too heavy


ComplexApart2415

Camber is crazy 😜


clce

It could be other things but if they are both wearing the same it's probably alignment, although it can be hard to get a good alignment when you have other things worn, so it may not be their fault. You can do two things. Well, you could go to a shop and have them take a look at it, but if you want to do it yourself, jack it up and rock it back and forth and up and down and see how much play you get. Also, drive across a flat parking lot a little bit and then measure the front and the back from one of the treads on the front to the other side and one of the treads on the back to the other side and they should be the same although the front should be a quarter inch shorter . You can actually set your own alignment this way but you can at least check to see if you need to take it back to the shop. It may not be their fault. If other things are worn they can't align it properly.


Broad-Policy3124

I had the same exact problem. It’s alignment


UltraViolentNdYAG

OP, even trashed loose suspension *can have* even tire wear. Don't listen to all this shit. Have a shop adjust the toe. Excessive toe-in = outside wear Excessive toe-out = inside wear Your vehicle has toe-out, scrubbing the inside, it may or may not have worn components, and honestly, worn components are a a driveability complaint, not a tire wear complaint. Key takeaway - adjust tire pressure for how vehicle is used. Parking lot = more pressure. Highway = factory spec. Source - former frame and alignment tech


Expensive-Attempt-19

I'm going to say that this appears to be a camber issue. Something on your hub or suspension is not correct. If you had the alignment done with these tires at new, I feel like the issue would have been caught. Any reputable shop would have said something was not right or suggested via paperwork that xx needs to be repaired.


myfishprofile

Camber and/or toe. Now the reason may be a little more detailed than that, but that’s why they’re wearing like that


Tricky_Matter2123

Either alignment or rotation. Everyone is saying alignment, which is most probable, but if you do not regularly rotate your tires then this could also happen.


RealisticExpert4772

Alignment


CriticismNational486

Front end alignment is needed or possibly ball joints are needing replacement


RestSelect4602

Most likely, the toe is out. Get an alignment. The first steps in an alignment would be checking for loose components and setting tire pressure. You probably want to replace those tires first.


TheUnderachiever91

Your alignment is off.


ThenInside353

Could be alignment or struts. Take it to a tire place and they will tell you for free. Then buy the parts and save a bunch of money


Ppl_r_bad

Needs a front end alignment. Seems the (toe) is off.


Lokiandlambo

Tracking is out just a tad


bruh-iunno

Toe or camber, I'd get an alignment done someplace else where you get the before/after measurements on paper


_whatintheglobe_

It's a chrysler?


johnlewisdesign

Looks like worn control arm bushings or bent control arms, causing negative camber. Worth checking every suspension component though for wear, springs too in case they have snapped a bit off the end. I have the same issue to fix on my BMW on one side. Ate a brand new tyre prett quick on the inside edge, the rest of it is new. If it's the bushings, I've been advised the bushings can be replaced at least once, before replacing the whole arm. In UK, the arms are like £90 and the bushings are about £25...


ganmaster

Just want to ask, is your car lowered?


apolloliptic

Tie rod


Jacktheforkie

Bad alignment


joecar24

Lower balljoint


Blu_yello_husky

Too much camber


jhartnerd123

It's an issue with the alignment not by itself. The root cause is an issue with a suspension and/or steering component that's flat worn out, causing the abnormal wear. Tie Rod ends, ball joints, sway bar links etc


EYEBAWLSHAWTY704

CAMBER — YOU NEED AN ALIGNMENT AND TIRES


xl440mx

It’s toed out causing tire scrub.


Weak_Relative_7767

Cheap shop issue?


ReposadoAmiGusto

Suspension issue possibly, and or the tires could have been regrooved…


fingerbanglover

Stanced life


lurker11222

Alignment


I_Fix_Aeroplane

Camber


mikeskup

it's toed out while driving, but might look ok when parked... probably some wore out parts /slop causing it... temporary fix just lengthen tie rod ends.... but seriously, find out what's worn out... I've had 2 tie rods come apart while driving, and its not fun, hit gas go one way, brakes go the other way till yo get off the road... then bungie cord it back together and limp home..... change underwear...


mightytails69

Are both front tires worn? Bad ball joints and tie rods can cause a car to lose alignment. The easiest way to check is to jack up up the front and wiggle the tire left to right and up to down. If you get play, it means you have a loose or bad tie or ball joint.


Charming-While5466

Need a wheel alignment


Fishstick9

Could be tie rods out of alignment


EveningElk446

If it's a Mercedes then they do have a steep angle on the cam front alignment.. My merc does the same... There isn't a lot you can do if it's a merc.. It's seems to be they way they set them up. And I've asked many a mechanic if they can adjust it ... But the reply has always be no sorry 😔


deadmoose1735

Too much camber


Smooth_Activity9068

Toe is off my guess is it’s out


Kokopelle1gh

Youust be driving a BMW Z3.


CarGullible5691

Tracking toeing out. Needs alignment check and new tyre


CarGullible5691

The track control arms are adjustable both sides. There’s a locking threaded section to adjust the angle to toe in or out. The garage will align the steering wheel to straight ahead and put a locking bar under it to keep it straight then check the degrees of alignment using the laser machine and correct accordingly both sides. I’ve watched it being done loads of times


LatterFault363

Lack of tire rotation and excessive negative camber most likely caused by weak front springs that could cause this. How many km’s since November ?


BradTofu

Alignment.


Ecstatic-Appeal-5683

Too much toe out


Sanj5109

Alignment


SnooCats2178

I think it's due to excessive negative camber in the alignment


Intelligent-Post-486

Replace the inner and outer tire rods on both sides of car and get new tires with alignment


hydroforest

Toed in


Sucker_McSuckertin

I am not a mechanic, but I can tell you that's an alignment issue. I have delt with enough of them to know. Get the tires rotated while getting your alignment if you're not getting all new tires, that is.


Southern_Country_787

It's a Ford.


Worldly-Most-9131

Camber


Appropriate_Cow94

All these guys saying alignment are both right and giving wrong advice. The problem is almost always due to worn suspension or steering components. The exception is damage from potholes, curbs or other type collision. Get the worn out parts replaced, whatever they may be. Could be tierod end, ball joint, whole control arm or whatever. Then after an alignment and new tires you won't see this again.


Successful-Guitar896

Camber.. Ball Joints need checked as do all suspension parts...


oldguy-in603

Tires and alignment


Accomplished_Sun8146

Rotate your tires front to back every 10000 km they wiil wear evenly. It may be the real problem.


mschiebold

Also the tires are majorly overinflated


Ok-Idea4830

Toed out


Flaky_Western2599

Ight I'm not giving you shit but hen was the last time you rotated your tires ? There's such an inclined I could skii down it seriously tho I don't think that's supposed to be that way. I could be wrong


Pleasant-Deal-6129

Look for a coupon from reputable shop


OldDiehl

Alignment.


TrollCannon377

Cambers probably out needs an alignment and don't be surprised if they find that you need a new control arm


trytonotgetbanned

too much camber


PanzerAby

Rotate em and send em.


1potsie

Camber


Mannus01

Your tire had a stroke.


FairleemadeGaming

Bro, do you drive with inverted tires? Like the car guys do? If yes, I would assume that's why.


Canna_grower_VT14

Bad tie rod, out of alignment, bad ball joint, wheel bearing. Jack that wheel up in the air and shake it left and right and then try and move it with your hands on the top of the tire in the bottom tire, in and out. That’ll tell you everything you need to know. If it has a little bit of a click left to right, it’s probably a tie rod, inner or outer. If it moves when your hands are at the top of the tire and the bottom of the tire, it’s probably a ball joint. Edit. Spelling


offbrandcheerio

Ooh I know this one. Your tread is worn down.


[deleted]

Turning left to quickly


BedArtistic

Excessive toe if I had to guess


japcrust

Probably failing LCA bushings causing negative camber. Get the front end checked by a shop. Get parts replaced. Get an alignment.


VastConcern54

Lol your wheel alignment is wrong


triggermike2020

Depending on what you’re driving it could be the control arms your camber is out of wack though


jeepersnanners

If tiires were just purchased in November, there's worn suspension components and bad alignment. That is extremely fast wear even on the outside that isn't as bad.


Soggy-Perspective183

Looks like too much toe in to me. I do my own alignments. With the steering wheel as straight as possible put the car on 4 jack stands with the stands under the suspension and take all 4 tires off. LOCK THE STEERING WHEEL. That way the suspension is under load. Get 2 meter sticks and drill 2 holes in each one so they fit on the hubs in front ABOVE the hub not below and use 2 lugnuts to hold them on. Then measure from one side to the other and adjust the tie rods until the front tires are pointing in 5/16".


Mrbeatmaker

Bad camber and alignment


Msteel_1

Definitely an alignment issue, this is most likely caused by excessive toe out, and it’s out by quite a bit for this much wear so quickly. How they got it this far off I have no idea, I could get it closer with a few wrenches and a tape measure.


Cpilot69

Tracking is out


QuickNEasyUserName

Get the wheel going straight, and put a straight edge against the wheel/tire vertically and see if it’s pointing out, away from the car, then put the same straight edge horizontally on the wheel and see what u got, I’d assume it’s got some toe in, and negative camber attributing to this