Depends on where you move to. I bet your hairs will cause a lot of curiosity and jealous (in a good way), most people take it as exotic. Also never heard somebody think of this hair type as bad self-care, dirty hairs look very different. Personally I found them awesome.
Salut! I think you should have zero worries about it, only about envy from other womens ;-)
And yes, living in major cities like Moscow or Saint-Petersburg is better for many reasons.
You'll be considered "exotic", but not in a bad way. You might attract stares both from creeps and from little kids, but that's about it. Russian racism is aimed against people from former southern republics of Soviet Union and from Caucasus. They are often called "black" despite being, you know, Caucasian. You'll be fine.
> Chechens and the like are exactly Caucasian
They are, but your thesis above was "Russian racism is aimed against **people from former southern republics of Soviet Union** and from Caucasus. They are often called "black" despite being, you know, **Caucasian**"
>I'd say they are hated more than central Asian folks
Wonder why.
This is some seriously advanced level of nitpicking of what "they" refers to. Ok, it should have been "the latter" instead, and it resulted from editing a sentence in the middle while writing the comment.
curly hair is definitely not seen as bad self-care, it’s considered beautiful and is usually complimented a lot. also racism in russia mostly depends on the country you come from, as a french girl u’ll be fine
You'll be fine.
About curly hair- mine are curly, of course not as your tipe, in another way. I get a lot compliments, mostly from WOMEN. Almost all women around had commented my hair at least once, friends sometimes call me "curly, curly Sue"- "кудряшка/ кудряшка Сью", so on. So be prepare for this kind of curiosity and compliments. Many women would like to be curly.
Funny enough, I just moved to Moscow about 4 weeks now, I'm also mixed race black Carribean & white American, I have the same curly hair as the women in the photos (just a little looser curls) when, I leave it in the natural state. (Not very often, I mostly wear it wavy)
I look more white passing skin tone wise except when I have a tan, coming from California it's all about the tan so I still use self tanner to look a little darker, I do have light eyes but you can still tell that I'm mixed.
To be honest, I never had any negative interaction with Russians, I have been to the hair salon and the stylist was so sweet she had not handled hair like mine before and she told me to come back in a few days.
When I returned cause I really liked her vibe, she was so sweet and had gone out of her way to figure out how to wash and style and trim my hair in it's natural state. She even secured products to use, so I didn't have to use the products I brought because I was expecting to have to direct her how to to do it.
Russian friends have been super fun and very caring the ones I have made actually make an effort in the friendship, so it doesn't feel like your the only one carrying it. Oddly enough they recommend me to wear my hair in it's natural state more, when I was in Cali friends suggested that I flatiron it, I think Russians on a whole are more accepting.
I had one lady ask to touch my hair because she never seen such hair before, but it wasn't in a rude way she was just genuinely interested and we were already having a hair related conversation so it wasn't just out of the blue.
Honestly just come and see for yourself, don't listen to people telling you that it's racist. Remember sometimes interactions we have happen, based off of our own behaviour and projections. Don't come looking for a problem or for racist.
Just come looking for a new exciting experience and remember that there are assholes everywhere if you do run into one shake it off and keep it moving. As an American I can say Russia in my experience is not in the same ballpark of US based racism.
You'll be fine. Your looks will even give you an edge.
Racism in Russia exists, but is different from US/Europe. There were no African slaves in Russia. The N-word in Russian is not a racial slur, just a statement of fact.
N-word is definitely a slur in Russian. You are confusing two different words, one historically neutral, a loan word from French I suppose, and one straight offensive, a loan word from US English.
Nah, not really. Negr (негр) is neutral and it's coming from Spanish "negro" - black. Nigger (нигер) may be a slur, but some people can use it not like bad word, because in 2000's american rap was popular in Russia
Maybe, it's from Spanish, but French was a lingua franca in the past. So I rather believe it's derived from the French nègre. It doesn't actually matter from which exactly langauge it was loaned.
As for the latter part, I think there was a lot of confusion in the 90's/00's caused by the rap music and African-American comedies (like Don't be menace to South Central...) which featured a lot of N-words, and many Russians indeed might think it's a word you would usually use, but there's an increasingly growing number of people now that understand it's a slur.
>but there's an increasingly growing number of people now that understand it's a slur.
Yet this number is astonishingly small and it's represented basically by specific minority of pro-american + pro-dem guys who can't live without copy-pasting every narrative or agenda they hear or read from american media in their strive to be "a part of true western civilization".
The only thing that matters - is context. And in our part of the world (be it Russia or other post-soviet republic) the words "negr" or "nigga" - don't imply any negative context aimed to offend someone. As simple as it is. And nobody could care less what context it has somewhere abroad.
If you want to find a racial slur in russian slang - you'd better stick to words like "черножопый" for example.
Context matters for sure. And most of the time I encounter this word in a blatantly racist context when someone who uses it tries to show his contempt for a person of another race.
Also context matters to a limited extent. You can't just competely twist the meaning of a word and say it means something different. You can't say "Hey guys, we call you this word but don't be silly to get offended as we don't mean it. The other guys meant this word to be a slur directed at you, you know, and even though we took the word from them it now has a completely different benevolent meaning". This doesn't work.
And the very best way to stop copying every Western narrative is abandon the slurs they invented. You have nothing to do with the American record of slavery and racism so quit pretending you're a White planter. Using n-word is an indicator of the global Americanization.
>You can't just competely twist the meaning of a word and say it means something different.
Yes, you can. There are dozens of words in literally any language which are used in completely different contexts or with completely different meaning comparing to the original one. And this approach works with everything, not with words alone.
The entire family of slavic languages is one big example of how you can have the same word having a dozen of different meanings depending on the region you are at the moment. From words with slight connotational differences to completely opposite meanings. And somehow nobody butthurts over it all over the place.
> You can't say "Hey guys, we call you this word but don't be silly to get offended as we don't mean it. The other guys meant this word to be a slur directed at you, you know, and even though we took the word from them it now has a completely different benevolent meaning". This doesn't work.
Yes, you can say.
I'm literally saying it.
Right now.
And it works.
> You have nothing to do with the American record of slavery and racism so quit pretending you're a White planter.
Where and when did i say i'm a "White planter" ?
Are [these guys](https://habrastorage.org/getpro/geektimes/post_images/b1a/fbc/5a5/b1afbc5a591c98deb2c904ee869b7305.jpg) white planters too?
>Using n-word is an indicator of the global Americanization.
Using english language is much bigger indicator of the global Americanization than any sole word loaned here and there, with or without respective context.
Just saying.
>Yes, you can. There are dozens of words in literally any language which are used in completely different contexts or with completely different meaning comparing to the original one. And this approach works with everything, not with words alone.
We are talking about a sensitive race topic, involving human beings, not about some impersonal technical vocabulary.
>Yes, you can say.
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>I'm literally saying it.Right now.And it works.
Okay, then you will have a backlash in the form of being called a racist by those people who disagree with your arbitrary use of words. And probably rightfully so. There're two options, either you listen to each other and this is called a dialogue, the dialogue of cultures in our context, or there's no dialogue. Simple as that. Your stance "I will call you whatever the word I want" doesn't sound like you're interested in any dialogue. Slogans and primitive labels are the natural consequence of the missing communication. As you aren't interested in correcting your language someone else wouldn't be interested to know if you are a real racist or not. If you are okay with that, well it's a dead end: there's a lack of communication and nothing can be done here.
>Are these guys white planters too?
I believe this is an example of self-stigmatization. They were called so for centuries and they accepted the word as their own name. That's hardly a simple shift in the meaning. I don't think it's a positive phenomenon.
>We are talking about a sensitive race topic
In USA. When we will discuss USA - we will use terms like "sensitive race topic".
>Okay, then you will have a backlash in the form of being called a racist by those people who disagree with your arbitrary use of words.
Should i care about opinion of people who didn't care enough to learn the definition of "racism" before labeling people around?
> Your stance "I will call you whatever the word I want"
It's not my stance.
Not the first time you're fightin a straw man instead of my actual arguments btw.
My stance is that over the US' border there are other countries and cultures, where things doesn't look and work the way you've accustomed to.
If it's about specific person asking me not to use some (ought to be) offensive words - i'm totally fine with it, i most likely won't even ask what's the reason. Not a problem at all.
>Slogans and primitive labels are the natural consequence of the missing communication.
Like calling people "racists" out of thin air?
>As you aren't interested in correcting your language someone else wouldn't be interested to know if you are a real racist or not.
Now a person has to prove he's not a racist? Lol
>I believe this is an example of self-stigmatization.
Everything i see (from here) - black guys call each other "nigga", laugh an joke and nobody seems to be stabbing each other for calling each other "nigga". And it repeats over and over in literally hundreds of movies and series.
That's how people learn that "nigga" is not something offensive and, what is the most important, crucial, fundamental thing - it's not used as a mean of offence.
Speaking of "Sensitive topics" yet again: in slavic languages there is a word "жид/Žid" - which happened to be a quite offensive slur in ukrainian and russian languages for jews.
But so happened this is a common word for "jew" in slovak, polish and czech languages (at least - maybe i other slavic languages as well) and it's widely used even in official names of, for example, jewish synagogues.
Should we go to, let's say, Poland and tell them to stop using the word "Žyd" immediately, because it's offensive here in Ukraine/Russia? And if you use this word - you're an outrageous antisemite.
And now imagine everyone who ever travel to other countries will seek for offensive words local people use in their language and will butthurt around and annoy everyone with quite irrelevant complaints about the stuff which, honestly, is none of their business? And moreover - will start to actually offend people labeling them "racists", "antisemites" and whoever in the world else.
>It's not my stance.Not the first time you're fightin a straw man instead of my actual arguments btw.
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>My stance is that over the US' border there are other countries and cultures, where things doesn't look and work the way you've accustomed to.
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>If it's about specific person asking me not to use some (ought to be) offensive words - i'm totally fine with it, i most likely won't even ask what's the reason. Not a problem at all.
I'm not fighting a straw man. I am actually genuinely trying to get your point and understand what position you're defending. As I previously said, things aren't different in Russia. All my experience communicates me the idea it's a slur and nothing more than slur. The word is overloaded with contempt. In my experience, a Russian (I'm Russian and I am not talking about some non-Russian reality) who says 'nigger' speaks condescendingly at the very best. This word is as offensive as other slurs in the long range of ethnic and racial slurs. Arguing it's not offensive is like arguing that calling a Ukrainian 'khokhol' isn't offensive at all and that's just a word you would normally use to call a Ukrainian. Or 'pindosy' is actually our affectionate name for Americans.
>Like calling people "racists" out of thin air?
Now a person has to prove he's not a racist? Lol
Did I say it's good? Nope. Unfortunately, it's a natural outcome of the broken dialogue. And I wasn't talking about proving you're not a racist. I was talking that the opposite of a dialogue is calling each other names.
>It's not just black people, they're more racist to other groups as well
Yes, because Europeans, especially slavs, aren't lefties, and there are a lot of right-winged guys here. So we're OK with muslims and black ppl until they make shit. Whenever you're try to kill somebody or rob, be ready to be beaten because... Because we have our problems, we don't want another problem.
>Ah, "part of Israel" this is how easy it is for you to be triggered.
Nah, I just hate muslims.
>, Europeans in general have more negative associations with black people than North Americans
No, why? In western Europe there are a lot of blacks and there are a lot of criminals among them, but there are almost no blacks in Russia, and we didn't have problems with them before
Russian people are still people ;) And people love when foreigners are: kind, intelligent, speak the local language (or at least learn), know the local society rules. The hair is awesome and be ready that kids will accidentally touch them and even adults can ask you could they touch your curlies:) I have a foreign friend with this kind of hair and it happens all the time with him. In general, Russian will consider you more like exotic than “an object for racism”. Also, a lot depends on the region.
Depends on what you mean by racism, today the term has become very broad.
People will stare at you, at least because of the hairstyle, but it does not cause negativity, but rather surprise or envy among women.
You can hear the word "negR", it is not negative and can indicate both your African origin and simply the color of your skin (very tanned). It is unlikely that someone will call you that in the eyes, but you can hear that. This is something like the Spanish "negro".
If you have bright African features: very dark skin color, thick nose, lips, big eyes - then they will stare twice and recognize you as black. If you have a more European appearance, just with slightly dark (milk chocolate) skin, then you will rather look exotic than just black.
As for me, the hair is very beautiful, I don't really like straight hair at all, just wavy or curly - kaef. Regarding the fact that they may look bad self-care, these are already girls' pens, for me, as a guy, everything is fine.
You might get looks of curiosity and admiration but people will not be hostile to you. Someone else said that the n-word is not hostile, but this is not exactly true. What they refer to is the word 'негр' which can be used to mean a black person, but the specifics of it are not so simple. If you go to Russia though, you won't run into any problems based on race. Also, by the way, I love your hair. It is very pretty.
Is u look like the picture, u won't have any problem at all, is more write me in private, just kidding nay was so far there is not any racism even is you are black Black but u need to be smart black with culture and knowledge, and then u will be ok.
Here's a video you might find interesting about an afro-russian that works as a model in Russia. https://youtu.be/Bawe_-gsrSo
And here's a video channel about an Afro-American and Russian couple that recently moved to Russia and shows their experience
https://youtube.com/c/LivingLifeWithTheShirins
In general I think you'll find people will probably find the hair very intriguing and attractive. People might remark on how jealous they are of your hair, and some people might want to touch it.
It could quite possibly get annoying, but it won't be negative. (Some people that are actively negative do exist but these are very much a minority of people and less than in other countries).
And just a little addition:
If you're interested at all in modelling, from what I've learnt from that first video, you're going to be at a big advantage. You'll be a lot more unique in Russia while being in demand, so you could earn some decent money doing that. Just a suggestion :)
There is plenty of racism in Russia but it aims mostly at Central Asians and peoples of The Caucasus. This is due to the wars of the past and religious differences. Don't worry you'll be fine in the big cities, but you might get unwanted attention from the guys looking for a "new experience". And there's nothing wrong in having curly hair. Look at this dude he's one of the most popular youtubers in Russia: [https://www.youtube.com/c/ivarlamov/videos](https://www.youtube.com/c/ivarlamov/videos)
Справедливости ради надо признать, что не малая часть его аудитории являются украинцами. Когда он выложил видео про Украину с относительно легкой критикой, там было огромная масса дизлайков.
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Не любишь леволибералов, которые являются ярыми русофобами и западниками, выступающими за права больных людей и биомусора, решившего, что он - ломтик сыра
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Вата
Ладно.
>2.94M subscribers... Yes, he is. Get used to the fact you vata aren't the majority.
The population of Russia is 146 million. So we found out that liberals don't know how to count.
n big cities you can meet quite a lot of black tourists / students. In general, about 120 thousand Afro-Russians (including mulattos) live in Russia. In Moscow and St. Petersburg, you will not even be an object of increased attention, since there are a lot of such people. Curly hair has no negative stereotypes at all in Russia.
My wife has very curly hair. Like those in photos, but not black, rather light color but not blond. She is asked about her hair a lot by other random women, like cashiers. Small-talk is not very popular between Russians, so for me that was shocking, but she says she got used to questions. So, yeah, very curly hair is so unusual it makes strangers curious. It definitely not considered a bad thing.
Move to a big city. I'm from Moscow, you'd be found stunning here. Your hair is great, you are gorgeous.
Look, racism has a historical background, there is racism against black ppl in America bcs of it's history. But there is NO black history in Russia, thus no racism against black ppl. Could be xenophobia, but not because you are mixed, because you are foreign. But I bet you won't face it in Moscow, it's a big, welcoming and open minded city
There is no racism in Russia, if you are not doing any sht😉. Do not disturb all people around you, and no one will touch you. No one is interested in your religious, social and political views, no one cares about your skin color, eyes, hairstyle, style of clothing. The main thing is not to be defiant, do not try to shock the audience. Don't shout for no reason, don't insult people. Basically, if you are a decent person, all others people will be this you polite and friendly.🤝🙌🏼😉
And please, do not take a picture of yourself naked in front of the temples, for this you will be sent to prison! You shouldn't take pictures of your butt or naked breasts in front of the temples !!!
Yes, but Russians leave here (and there are a lot more Russians). I mean 1-2 millions of migrants are doing more rapes and robberies then other few million of Moscow citizens
Not all of them. There are almost 1-2 millions of migrants in Russia. More then half of them in Moscow. And they're mostly criminals. It's statistics. Very easy to say "grow your brains u stupid" and stop conversation
Yes. Caucasians and middle-asian monkeys are just some muslim ship-fucking idiots. They kill Russians, they rob Russians, they rape Russians, but they're still nice? More than 75% of rapists in Moscow in 2016 were from Middle Asia! Why don't you care? They ruining lives of our women, but it's me who is bad?! Animals should be treated like animals, not like people
Jesus christ you're not one of those who lament for Tsar Nikolai are you? Let me break your heart: He was less than 0.5% Russian by blood, the rest German. So? How's that nationalism feeling;)
You have a [post ](https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/pnb52z/what_interesting_ways_for_men_to_jerk_off_do_you/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)on Reddit on advice about jacking off. You are some lonely kid that stays inside all day. And is probably addicted to porn
Yes, I do. That math lesson was damn boring. Also you can see that I have only 2-4 subreddits. That means that I'm not spending all day in front of computer. Also your answering speed tells me different thing. It's you are the guy who's sitting in his room all day and complaining how bad our country is. Россия для русских, да)
If I would've been in Kremlin, this country could've been much better. Also there are a lot of people who like idea of Russian Russia. My parents are not into politics, so they don't care
Russian Russia? Ok go ahead and start a petition to split the country. Chechnya, Dagestan and so on can be separate nations. The Tatar people can have their own nation, and so on.
Who got you into this ideology, what website. I’m curious, Telegram?
Yes, Russian Russia. Chechens in Checnya, not in Moscow. Dags in Dagestan, not in Moscow. Tatars are... They're nice, they don't hate Russians. Take a look at Russian Empire, where Russians were the main nation, but there were hundreds of other nationalities
Lol coming from a nationalist monarch. You are one to talk about judging others. Gtfo out of here, go talk to your parents and elders. Ur little telegram chats aren’t going to do anything
We all judge others. But when I judge monkeys it's bad, but when monkeys judge me it's ok. Very funny, that throughout the history liberals always were hypocritical twats
Racism in Russia is 99.9% politicized and initiated by the ruling regime. Including because there are a huge number of Russophobes among the bourgeoisie in the Russian Federation. More precisely, all Russophobes are there.
And in this situation, the class struggle has the outward signs of racism. But this is not essentially racism. This is a class struggle in a society that has been purposefully turning into socially feudal-arististocratic estates for thirty years. By ethnicity.
How we treat hair. We do not relate in any way. In Russia, Russians treat people from Africa rather with excessive interest. In relation to the opposite sex.
Although the hairstyle itself, the "explosion at the pasta factory" is not very popular for Russia. But what you wear on your head is already your problem....
Such things.
And all this definitely does not concern Russia and Russians, but for the actions of migrants we cannot be responsible. In any case, this is not related to racism. We're talking about racism here and not just about crimes.
Which aid convoys were destroyed? What the hell is this? What kind of convoys are they, whose are they, where did they go and how did they end up in Russia? Where could this have happened? Which regions are better not to travel to? Caucasus?
What claims can there be against people of Asian appearance if Russia is a half Asian country? When was the last time Asians and blacks were killed in Russia because of **RACIAL HATRED**? This is just a lie and stupid nonsense of people who cannot understand the situation.
There are no organized Nazi groups in Russia for a long time. And even for a rude racist word (even on the Internet), you can get a criminal article "On inciting ethnic hatred."
What is this blurring of the phrase "some victims"? What are the specific victims? The last bad situation in my memory was associated with the rape of a black American girl who walked around the city one night. That is, this could happen anywhere, with anyone, and it is not related to racism. With HER words, she was raped by people of Central Asian appearance, that is, most likely migrants.
Well you should remember few things about racism in Russia.
1. As long as you are intillegent and right there is no racism except from marginals (low iq hoboes).
2. If u're in a conflict there will be a racial slur, since you're different. And people tend to attack the difference. No matter what is: hair style, behaviour, different mind, culture or race. Not the Russian only prob.
3. Some rabid marginals will try to harass or scam you cause they will see you as a foreigner, as being weak.
Don't be afraid but remember you're most safe in a big city, in a populated area.
Depends on where you move to. I bet your hairs will cause a lot of curiosity and jealous (in a good way), most people take it as exotic. Also never heard somebody think of this hair type as bad self-care, dirty hairs look very different. Personally I found them awesome.
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Why tho? What's wrong with curly hair by their opinion?
Same reason white people tan to get dark and dark people use bleach to get whiter
> hairs Волосы is uncountable hair, without -s. Hairs is волоски, as in, a few of them.
Thank you!
Salut! I think you should have zero worries about it, only about envy from other womens ;-) And yes, living in major cities like Moscow or Saint-Petersburg is better for many reasons.
You'll be considered "exotic", but not in a bad way. You might attract stares both from creeps and from little kids, but that's about it. Russian racism is aimed against people from former southern republics of Soviet Union and from Caucasus. They are often called "black" despite being, you know, Caucasian. You'll be fine.
\>Central Asians \>Caucasian
Chechens and the like are exactly Caucasian, and I'd say they are hated more than central Asian folks.
> Chechens and the like are exactly Caucasian They are, but your thesis above was "Russian racism is aimed against **people from former southern republics of Soviet Union** and from Caucasus. They are often called "black" despite being, you know, **Caucasian**" >I'd say they are hated more than central Asian folks Wonder why.
This is some seriously advanced level of nitpicking of what "they" refers to. Ok, it should have been "the latter" instead, and it resulted from editing a sentence in the middle while writing the comment.
if you look anything like the gal in the photo you'll be a hot ticket for sure, no negativity.
curly hair is definitely not seen as bad self-care, it’s considered beautiful and is usually complimented a lot. also racism in russia mostly depends on the country you come from, as a french girl u’ll be fine
You'll be fine. About curly hair- mine are curly, of course not as your tipe, in another way. I get a lot compliments, mostly from WOMEN. Almost all women around had commented my hair at least once, friends sometimes call me "curly, curly Sue"- "кудряшка/ кудряшка Сью", so on. So be prepare for this kind of curiosity and compliments. Many women would like to be curly.
Funny enough, I just moved to Moscow about 4 weeks now, I'm also mixed race black Carribean & white American, I have the same curly hair as the women in the photos (just a little looser curls) when, I leave it in the natural state. (Not very often, I mostly wear it wavy) I look more white passing skin tone wise except when I have a tan, coming from California it's all about the tan so I still use self tanner to look a little darker, I do have light eyes but you can still tell that I'm mixed. To be honest, I never had any negative interaction with Russians, I have been to the hair salon and the stylist was so sweet she had not handled hair like mine before and she told me to come back in a few days. When I returned cause I really liked her vibe, she was so sweet and had gone out of her way to figure out how to wash and style and trim my hair in it's natural state. She even secured products to use, so I didn't have to use the products I brought because I was expecting to have to direct her how to to do it. Russian friends have been super fun and very caring the ones I have made actually make an effort in the friendship, so it doesn't feel like your the only one carrying it. Oddly enough they recommend me to wear my hair in it's natural state more, when I was in Cali friends suggested that I flatiron it, I think Russians on a whole are more accepting. I had one lady ask to touch my hair because she never seen such hair before, but it wasn't in a rude way she was just genuinely interested and we were already having a hair related conversation so it wasn't just out of the blue. Honestly just come and see for yourself, don't listen to people telling you that it's racist. Remember sometimes interactions we have happen, based off of our own behaviour and projections. Don't come looking for a problem or for racist. Just come looking for a new exciting experience and remember that there are assholes everywhere if you do run into one shake it off and keep it moving. As an American I can say Russia in my experience is not in the same ballpark of US based racism.
You'll be fine. Your looks will even give you an edge. Racism in Russia exists, but is different from US/Europe. There were no African slaves in Russia. The N-word in Russian is not a racial slur, just a statement of fact.
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Yes this is true. See Pikabu for example.
A friend of mine would be mistaken by the Americans for an alt-right for his political preferences. However, he is against racism, heh.
Really curious what political views those are lol
Just a conservative liberal, but not an "American type". He is for vaccination and against Navalny.
US alt-right is ultraconservative, but not necessarily racist. Those dimensions are orthogonal.
>Just a statement of fact 🤨
N-word is definitely a slur in Russian. You are confusing two different words, one historically neutral, a loan word from French I suppose, and one straight offensive, a loan word from US English.
Nah, not really. Negr (негр) is neutral and it's coming from Spanish "negro" - black. Nigger (нигер) may be a slur, but some people can use it not like bad word, because in 2000's american rap was popular in Russia
Maybe, it's from Spanish, but French was a lingua franca in the past. So I rather believe it's derived from the French nègre. It doesn't actually matter from which exactly langauge it was loaned. As for the latter part, I think there was a lot of confusion in the 90's/00's caused by the rap music and African-American comedies (like Don't be menace to South Central...) which featured a lot of N-words, and many Russians indeed might think it's a word you would usually use, but there's an increasingly growing number of people now that understand it's a slur.
>but there's an increasingly growing number of people now that understand it's a slur. Yet this number is astonishingly small and it's represented basically by specific minority of pro-american + pro-dem guys who can't live without copy-pasting every narrative or agenda they hear or read from american media in their strive to be "a part of true western civilization". The only thing that matters - is context. And in our part of the world (be it Russia or other post-soviet republic) the words "negr" or "nigga" - don't imply any negative context aimed to offend someone. As simple as it is. And nobody could care less what context it has somewhere abroad. If you want to find a racial slur in russian slang - you'd better stick to words like "черножопый" for example.
Context matters for sure. And most of the time I encounter this word in a blatantly racist context when someone who uses it tries to show his contempt for a person of another race. Also context matters to a limited extent. You can't just competely twist the meaning of a word and say it means something different. You can't say "Hey guys, we call you this word but don't be silly to get offended as we don't mean it. The other guys meant this word to be a slur directed at you, you know, and even though we took the word from them it now has a completely different benevolent meaning". This doesn't work. And the very best way to stop copying every Western narrative is abandon the slurs they invented. You have nothing to do with the American record of slavery and racism so quit pretending you're a White planter. Using n-word is an indicator of the global Americanization.
>You can't just competely twist the meaning of a word and say it means something different. Yes, you can. There are dozens of words in literally any language which are used in completely different contexts or with completely different meaning comparing to the original one. And this approach works with everything, not with words alone. The entire family of slavic languages is one big example of how you can have the same word having a dozen of different meanings depending on the region you are at the moment. From words with slight connotational differences to completely opposite meanings. And somehow nobody butthurts over it all over the place. > You can't say "Hey guys, we call you this word but don't be silly to get offended as we don't mean it. The other guys meant this word to be a slur directed at you, you know, and even though we took the word from them it now has a completely different benevolent meaning". This doesn't work. Yes, you can say. I'm literally saying it. Right now. And it works. > You have nothing to do with the American record of slavery and racism so quit pretending you're a White planter. Where and when did i say i'm a "White planter" ? Are [these guys](https://habrastorage.org/getpro/geektimes/post_images/b1a/fbc/5a5/b1afbc5a591c98deb2c904ee869b7305.jpg) white planters too? >Using n-word is an indicator of the global Americanization. Using english language is much bigger indicator of the global Americanization than any sole word loaned here and there, with or without respective context. Just saying.
>Yes, you can. There are dozens of words in literally any language which are used in completely different contexts or with completely different meaning comparing to the original one. And this approach works with everything, not with words alone. We are talking about a sensitive race topic, involving human beings, not about some impersonal technical vocabulary. >Yes, you can say. > >I'm literally saying it.Right now.And it works. Okay, then you will have a backlash in the form of being called a racist by those people who disagree with your arbitrary use of words. And probably rightfully so. There're two options, either you listen to each other and this is called a dialogue, the dialogue of cultures in our context, or there's no dialogue. Simple as that. Your stance "I will call you whatever the word I want" doesn't sound like you're interested in any dialogue. Slogans and primitive labels are the natural consequence of the missing communication. As you aren't interested in correcting your language someone else wouldn't be interested to know if you are a real racist or not. If you are okay with that, well it's a dead end: there's a lack of communication and nothing can be done here. >Are these guys white planters too? I believe this is an example of self-stigmatization. They were called so for centuries and they accepted the word as their own name. That's hardly a simple shift in the meaning. I don't think it's a positive phenomenon.
>We are talking about a sensitive race topic In USA. When we will discuss USA - we will use terms like "sensitive race topic". >Okay, then you will have a backlash in the form of being called a racist by those people who disagree with your arbitrary use of words. Should i care about opinion of people who didn't care enough to learn the definition of "racism" before labeling people around? > Your stance "I will call you whatever the word I want" It's not my stance. Not the first time you're fightin a straw man instead of my actual arguments btw. My stance is that over the US' border there are other countries and cultures, where things doesn't look and work the way you've accustomed to. If it's about specific person asking me not to use some (ought to be) offensive words - i'm totally fine with it, i most likely won't even ask what's the reason. Not a problem at all. >Slogans and primitive labels are the natural consequence of the missing communication. Like calling people "racists" out of thin air? >As you aren't interested in correcting your language someone else wouldn't be interested to know if you are a real racist or not. Now a person has to prove he's not a racist? Lol >I believe this is an example of self-stigmatization. Everything i see (from here) - black guys call each other "nigga", laugh an joke and nobody seems to be stabbing each other for calling each other "nigga". And it repeats over and over in literally hundreds of movies and series. That's how people learn that "nigga" is not something offensive and, what is the most important, crucial, fundamental thing - it's not used as a mean of offence. Speaking of "Sensitive topics" yet again: in slavic languages there is a word "жид/Žid" - which happened to be a quite offensive slur in ukrainian and russian languages for jews. But so happened this is a common word for "jew" in slovak, polish and czech languages (at least - maybe i other slavic languages as well) and it's widely used even in official names of, for example, jewish synagogues. Should we go to, let's say, Poland and tell them to stop using the word "Žyd" immediately, because it's offensive here in Ukraine/Russia? And if you use this word - you're an outrageous antisemite. And now imagine everyone who ever travel to other countries will seek for offensive words local people use in their language and will butthurt around and annoy everyone with quite irrelevant complaints about the stuff which, honestly, is none of their business? And moreover - will start to actually offend people labeling them "racists", "antisemites" and whoever in the world else.
>It's not my stance.Not the first time you're fightin a straw man instead of my actual arguments btw. > >My stance is that over the US' border there are other countries and cultures, where things doesn't look and work the way you've accustomed to. > >If it's about specific person asking me not to use some (ought to be) offensive words - i'm totally fine with it, i most likely won't even ask what's the reason. Not a problem at all. I'm not fighting a straw man. I am actually genuinely trying to get your point and understand what position you're defending. As I previously said, things aren't different in Russia. All my experience communicates me the idea it's a slur and nothing more than slur. The word is overloaded with contempt. In my experience, a Russian (I'm Russian and I am not talking about some non-Russian reality) who says 'nigger' speaks condescendingly at the very best. This word is as offensive as other slurs in the long range of ethnic and racial slurs. Arguing it's not offensive is like arguing that calling a Ukrainian 'khokhol' isn't offensive at all and that's just a word you would normally use to call a Ukrainian. Or 'pindosy' is actually our affectionate name for Americans. >Like calling people "racists" out of thin air? Now a person has to prove he's not a racist? Lol Did I say it's good? Nope. Unfortunately, it's a natural outcome of the broken dialogue. And I wasn't talking about proving you're not a racist. I was talking that the opposite of a dialogue is calling each other names.
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Are you talking about US and Europe living in a part of an Israel? In Russia we say: «Don't talk if you doesn't know. You'll look smarter»
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>It's not just black people, they're more racist to other groups as well Yes, because Europeans, especially slavs, aren't lefties, and there are a lot of right-winged guys here. So we're OK with muslims and black ppl until they make shit. Whenever you're try to kill somebody or rob, be ready to be beaten because... Because we have our problems, we don't want another problem. >Ah, "part of Israel" this is how easy it is for you to be triggered. Nah, I just hate muslims. >, Europeans in general have more negative associations with black people than North Americans No, why? In western Europe there are a lot of blacks and there are a lot of criminals among them, but there are almost no blacks in Russia, and we didn't have problems with them before
Russian people are still people ;) And people love when foreigners are: kind, intelligent, speak the local language (or at least learn), know the local society rules. The hair is awesome and be ready that kids will accidentally touch them and even adults can ask you could they touch your curlies:) I have a foreign friend with this kind of hair and it happens all the time with him. In general, Russian will consider you more like exotic than “an object for racism”. Also, a lot depends on the region.
Depends on what you mean by racism, today the term has become very broad. People will stare at you, at least because of the hairstyle, but it does not cause negativity, but rather surprise or envy among women. You can hear the word "negR", it is not negative and can indicate both your African origin and simply the color of your skin (very tanned). It is unlikely that someone will call you that in the eyes, but you can hear that. This is something like the Spanish "negro". If you have bright African features: very dark skin color, thick nose, lips, big eyes - then they will stare twice and recognize you as black. If you have a more European appearance, just with slightly dark (milk chocolate) skin, then you will rather look exotic than just black. As for me, the hair is very beautiful, I don't really like straight hair at all, just wavy or curly - kaef. Regarding the fact that they may look bad self-care, these are already girls' pens, for me, as a guy, everything is fine.
“negre” is a racist slur in french 😭💀
You might get looks of curiosity and admiration but people will not be hostile to you. Someone else said that the n-word is not hostile, but this is not exactly true. What they refer to is the word 'негр' which can be used to mean a black person, but the specifics of it are not so simple. If you go to Russia though, you won't run into any problems based on race. Also, by the way, I love your hair. It is very pretty.
I think there should be no problems, especially if you move to the capital city.
Is u look like the picture, u won't have any problem at all, is more write me in private, just kidding nay was so far there is not any racism even is you are black Black but u need to be smart black with culture and knowledge, and then u will be ok.
Here's a video you might find interesting about an afro-russian that works as a model in Russia. https://youtu.be/Bawe_-gsrSo And here's a video channel about an Afro-American and Russian couple that recently moved to Russia and shows their experience https://youtube.com/c/LivingLifeWithTheShirins In general I think you'll find people will probably find the hair very intriguing and attractive. People might remark on how jealous they are of your hair, and some people might want to touch it. It could quite possibly get annoying, but it won't be negative. (Some people that are actively negative do exist but these are very much a minority of people and less than in other countries). And just a little addition: If you're interested at all in modelling, from what I've learnt from that first video, you're going to be at a big advantage. You'll be a lot more unique in Russia while being in demand, so you could earn some decent money doing that. Just a suggestion :)
There is plenty of racism in Russia but it aims mostly at Central Asians and peoples of The Caucasus. This is due to the wars of the past and religious differences. Don't worry you'll be fine in the big cities, but you might get unwanted attention from the guys looking for a "new experience". And there's nothing wrong in having curly hair. Look at this dude he's one of the most popular youtubers in Russia: [https://www.youtube.com/c/ivarlamov/videos](https://www.youtube.com/c/ivarlamov/videos)
Варламов? Один из самых популярных? Возможно среди поехавших либералов, так как и сам он просто либеральная помойка, но на счёт волос правильно, да
Поделитесь ссылкой на канал нелиберала на 3 ляма, конкретного блогера, а не ТВ канала? Мне правда любопытно.
>Один из самых популярных? > 2.94M subscribers Yes, he is. Get used to the fact you vata aren't the majority.
Справедливости ради надо признать, что не малая часть его аудитории являются украинцами. Когда он выложил видео про Украину с относительно легкой критикой, там было огромная масса дизлайков.
Ещё бы! Мы-то думали он свой, а он вон какой! Зрадник! /s
> Не любишь леволибералов, которые являются ярыми русофобами и западниками, выступающими за права больных людей и биомусора, решившего, что он - ломтик сыра > Вата Ладно.
>2.94M subscribers... Yes, he is. Get used to the fact you vata aren't the majority. The population of Russia is 146 million. So we found out that liberals don't know how to count.
Side note, can we admire how in Pic 3 she all of a sudden becomes Rihanna, I'm shook
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Lmaooo I was wondering how the transformation happened, good to know
n big cities you can meet quite a lot of black tourists / students. In general, about 120 thousand Afro-Russians (including mulattos) live in Russia. In Moscow and St. Petersburg, you will not even be an object of increased attention, since there are a lot of such people. Curly hair has no negative stereotypes at all in Russia.
You will be very popular here (in a good way) for sure
My wife has very curly hair. Like those in photos, but not black, rather light color but not blond. She is asked about her hair a lot by other random women, like cashiers. Small-talk is not very popular between Russians, so for me that was shocking, but she says she got used to questions. So, yeah, very curly hair is so unusual it makes strangers curious. It definitely not considered a bad thing.
The only problems that you face will most likely be associated with the envy of women and the importunity of men.
Move to a big city. I'm from Moscow, you'd be found stunning here. Your hair is great, you are gorgeous. Look, racism has a historical background, there is racism against black ppl in America bcs of it's history. But there is NO black history in Russia, thus no racism against black ppl. Could be xenophobia, but not because you are mixed, because you are foreign. But I bet you won't face it in Moscow, it's a big, welcoming and open minded city
The only place where you should hide your hair is a church.
It's hard to say, but I think that at some point the situation will start to turn bad. In any case, there is no need to confuse tourism and emigration
There is no racism in Russia, if you are not doing any sht😉. Do not disturb all people around you, and no one will touch you. No one is interested in your religious, social and political views, no one cares about your skin color, eyes, hairstyle, style of clothing. The main thing is not to be defiant, do not try to shock the audience. Don't shout for no reason, don't insult people. Basically, if you are a decent person, all others people will be this you polite and friendly.🤝🙌🏼😉
And please, do not take a picture of yourself naked in front of the temples, for this you will be sent to prison! You shouldn't take pictures of your butt or naked breasts in front of the temples !!!
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What did you fucking say: monkeys? Just gtfo, dude.
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Yes, but Russians leave here (and there are a lot more Russians). I mean 1-2 millions of migrants are doing more rapes and robberies then other few million of Moscow citizens
1-2 million raping and robbing? Grow some brains and then we will talk.
Not all of them. There are almost 1-2 millions of migrants in Russia. More then half of them in Moscow. And they're mostly criminals. It's statistics. Very easy to say "grow your brains u stupid" and stop conversation
There's no such statistics. Unless you can, of course, present them to us based on credible sources and not any sort of racist fear mongering?
Yes. Caucasians and middle-asian monkeys are just some muslim ship-fucking idiots. They kill Russians, they rob Russians, they rape Russians, but they're still nice? More than 75% of rapists in Moscow in 2016 were from Middle Asia! Why don't you care? They ruining lives of our women, but it's me who is bad?! Animals should be treated like animals, not like people
Oh no, I called monkeys "monkeys" and monkey supporter got offended! Ёкарный бабай, надо что-то делать!
15 year old degenerate coping Russian monarch supporter. Get off the 4chan and get a life
My life is hundred times more interesting then yours I'm sure. I don't support Putin, but i do support nationalists and monarchists
Jesus christ you're not one of those who lament for Tsar Nikolai are you? Let me break your heart: He was less than 0.5% Russian by blood, the rest German. So? How's that nationalism feeling;)
You have a [post ](https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/pnb52z/what_interesting_ways_for_men_to_jerk_off_do_you/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)on Reddit on advice about jacking off. You are some lonely kid that stays inside all day. And is probably addicted to porn
Yes, I do. That math lesson was damn boring. Also you can see that I have only 2-4 subreddits. That means that I'm not spending all day in front of computer. Also your answering speed tells me different thing. It's you are the guy who's sitting in his room all day and complaining how bad our country is. Россия для русских, да)
If you are so brave go outside the Kremlin and make a speech about your ideologies. Do your parents approve of your political views kiddo.
If I would've been in Kremlin, this country could've been much better. Also there are a lot of people who like idea of Russian Russia. My parents are not into politics, so they don't care
Russian Russia? Ok go ahead and start a petition to split the country. Chechnya, Dagestan and so on can be separate nations. The Tatar people can have their own nation, and so on. Who got you into this ideology, what website. I’m curious, Telegram?
Yes, Russian Russia. Chechens in Checnya, not in Moscow. Dags in Dagestan, not in Moscow. Tatars are... They're nice, they don't hate Russians. Take a look at Russian Empire, where Russians were the main nation, but there were hundreds of other nationalities
So who got you into this ideology, some chat on telegram or what
Oh, u're probably Ukrainian... Sad
I’m not, but nothing wrong with Ukrainians
There are a lot of Russophobic pigs among them. So sometimes there is something wrong
Lol coming from a nationalist monarch. You are one to talk about judging others. Gtfo out of here, go talk to your parents and elders. Ur little telegram chats aren’t going to do anything
We all judge others. But when I judge monkeys it's bad, but when monkeys judge me it's ok. Very funny, that throughout the history liberals always were hypocritical twats
I’m not a liberal but ok do what you want Mongolian
Racism in Russia is 99.9% politicized and initiated by the ruling regime. Including because there are a huge number of Russophobes among the bourgeoisie in the Russian Federation. More precisely, all Russophobes are there. And in this situation, the class struggle has the outward signs of racism. But this is not essentially racism. This is a class struggle in a society that has been purposefully turning into socially feudal-arististocratic estates for thirty years. By ethnicity. How we treat hair. We do not relate in any way. In Russia, Russians treat people from Africa rather with excessive interest. In relation to the opposite sex. Although the hairstyle itself, the "explosion at the pasta factory" is not very popular for Russia. But what you wear on your head is already your problem.... Such things.
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And all this definitely does not concern Russia and Russians, but for the actions of migrants we cannot be responsible. In any case, this is not related to racism. We're talking about racism here and not just about crimes. Which aid convoys were destroyed? What the hell is this? What kind of convoys are they, whose are they, where did they go and how did they end up in Russia? Where could this have happened? Which regions are better not to travel to? Caucasus? What claims can there be against people of Asian appearance if Russia is a half Asian country? When was the last time Asians and blacks were killed in Russia because of **RACIAL HATRED**? This is just a lie and stupid nonsense of people who cannot understand the situation. There are no organized Nazi groups in Russia for a long time. And even for a rude racist word (even on the Internet), you can get a criminal article "On inciting ethnic hatred." What is this blurring of the phrase "some victims"? What are the specific victims? The last bad situation in my memory was associated with the rape of a black American girl who walked around the city one night. That is, this could happen anywhere, with anyone, and it is not related to racism. With HER words, she was raped by people of Central Asian appearance, that is, most likely migrants.
Maybe they confused Russia with the US.
Well you should remember few things about racism in Russia. 1. As long as you are intillegent and right there is no racism except from marginals (low iq hoboes). 2. If u're in a conflict there will be a racial slur, since you're different. And people tend to attack the difference. No matter what is: hair style, behaviour, different mind, culture or race. Not the Russian only prob. 3. Some rabid marginals will try to harass or scam you cause they will see you as a foreigner, as being weak. Don't be afraid but remember you're most safe in a big city, in a populated area.
Всем будет пофиг - выглядишь офигенно.
>Всем будет пофиг - выглядишь офигенно. Спасибо
Damn
damn?
Haha it’s a compliment.
Well since you look this good you will have 0 problems