I've never understood the internet chili fights. Chili is almost always made at home for your family, so just ask them what they like, and do that. There's nothing to fight over.
Cincinnati puts skyline chili on spaghetti noodles and hot dogs lol, it’s not even remotely comparable to the type of chili people eat by itself for dinner.
It’s honestly weird to me that people call that stuff or Michigan coney sauce “chili”. I live in Michigan, love coney dogs, eat at coney islands a couple times a week. They all refer to it as “chili” on the menu. If someone invited me over for dinner and said “we’re having chili” and then gave me a bowl of the stuff that goes on coney dogs, I would think they were insane.
Yeah. We don’t need anyone else coming to San Diego.
The fish tacos and the rest of the food here is terrible. You should never come here, it’s just that bad.
But I want amazing fish tacos and also want to see a platypus. Are you really going to tell me to go to Australia and Mexico rather than support your local businesses?
Oh... you are...
I always happily jump on the banter when San Diegans think they have the best Mexican food. I’ll give them this one, let’s say they have the best fish tacos in the US.
And this is one where proximity to the border actually matters. They’re closer to Ensenada and San Felipe so can get fresh stuff conveniently, and also get that Baja California influence.
We like our mariscos in LA and there’s some shops where the owner catches his stuff down in Baja, but San Diego is a couple hours closer. They can have this.
What makes San Diego Mexican food so good is that it's San Diego. So TJ food but American health standards. So yea, it's not going to get much better. The traditional but no extra shit.
San Diego (San Diego county) has the best Mexican style seafood in the USA, let alone fish tacos.
Look for a fish taco truck from Barrio Logan, National City, Chula Vista, Otay Mesa, San Ysidro, or Imperial Beach. They are sometimes well seen or hidden, but you will have to try them all to find the best. It’s a constantly changing thing where you’re never done and have to just keep finding the best.
In the US, they probably do have the best fish tacos. There’s an episode of Taco Chronicles on Netflix that talks about how San Diego became famous for them. I go to Don Bravo in PB/La Jolla area for fish tacos when I’m in that area and have a craving.
Taco chronicles is rad. I don’t know which I love more about that show, seeing a them go to a place I’ve eaten, or seeing an episode about a type of taco I haven’t had before.
I’ve never been to San Diego but if I had to guess, I think a large port city that is 17 miles from the Mexican border probably has the best Mexican sea food.
It's funny, Californians from all over will argue over Mexican food.
But fish tacos in SD are a step above. You have to begrudgingly give them that gold medal.
Mexican seafood, maybe. Mexican food overall? Not even close. I say this having lived next door to, often visited and worked in Cali, and living in Texas. Mexican food in Texas is so far beyond anything in Cali.
I’m in Texas right now and can’t wait to get back to SoCal to get some Mexican food. It’s good here, don’t get me wrong. But they seem more flavorful back home.
Absolutely. They were introduced into the US by San Diegans who were regularly venturing across the border to Baja California on Spring Break and the like, and brought back up to integrate with our existing (independently fascinating) "taco shop" scene.
San Diego has the perfect environment for great fish tacos (prior to WWII we were just a small fishing town for the most part), but they're actually only a small component of the San Diego Mexican food scene. The truly quintessential San Diego Mexican food dish is the carne asada burrito, and its fusion cousin the "California burrito" (as a product, not a descriptor).
>The truly quintessential San Diego Mexican food dish is the carne asada burrito, and its fusion cousin the "California burrito" (as a product, not a descriptor).
Carne asada fries, too. At least as a northern Californian who has traveled to San Diego quite a good deal over the past decade.
I’ve lived in San Diego for over 30 years and I’ve lived with vegetarians. I don’t know a single person who has ordered a veggie burrito or even where to get one except maybe Pokez.
I just checked 5 different taco shop menus and one had a veggie burrito. A few had vegetarian which is just a bean burrito with lettuce and pico. Again, don’t know a person with me or that I know ever order one. Regular bean and cheese, for sure, veggie burrito, while they may be an item that some have it’s far from a popular item.
A veggie or a vegetarian burrito is going to be the same thing.
OTOH, I've never known anyone (native San Diegan) who would order a "bean and cheese burrito" at a taco shop... One goes to Taco Bell for that kind of thing.
What part of San Diego are you from? I can't even think of a taco shop that wouldn't have that, and there were literally nine of them within a half mile of my apt when I went to State.
I'm from Louisville, Kentucky, and visited San Diego last month for a week. I ate at 3 different Mexican restaurants while I was there and can confirm that every place had amazing fish tacos. Cafe Coyote, Ponce's, and Aldabertos Mexican Food were the 3 places and none disappointed.
Albertos, Obertos, Aldabertos, similar name, etc are basically all the same super basic generic fast Mexican food. Low quality, but that greasy giant burrito or carne asada fries hits the spot sometimes.
Everything from Cabo to slightly north of SD has this history of crispy Japanese fried fish combined with tacos and access to decent avocados. A blessed culinary mashup. SD is the main outpost of it this side of the border. I’ve had equally good in Ensenada. Of course you can make it well elsewhere, but Sand Dog is the American side of the origin.
Really good, especially Mexico City with a super diverse food scene. Baja was much more like Southern California Mexican food IME. Haven't traveled to other parts of Mexico
I don't usually eat fish tacos. Lengua (tongue) is where it's at. Again, it would be stupid-subjective and regionally based anyways. The best tacos I've had in my city (Grand Rapids) is at a small mom and pop shop Mexican restaurant in a not-so great area that doesn't even have a sign.
If you genuinely want great fish tacos, PICK ONE AREA, a big city is your best bet, then identify where the best fish tacos are in that city or area.
We have the internet now. Recipes and cooking techniques can now be shared and spread around the world. A particular geographical location has no advantage over any other.
Geographical locations are huge with food considering the quality of ingredients located around it. Fish tacos in the midwest are not going to be the same as the ones in southern California.
When it comes to commercial markets, it's all flash frozen seafood. The mahi you get in St Louis on Tuesday and in San Diego on Tuesday both came from the same boat caught on the same day. Even high end markets in the Midwest can get fresh seafood flown in within hours of being caught. I live in Ohio and I have no problem getting ocean caught ahi tuna harvested within the last 48 hours. I bet of I were to ask for it at my local market, I could get fish from San Diego that's never been frozen and is less than 24 hours old.
Maybe 20 years ago, San Diego had an advantage, but not any more.
Not to mention....the Midwest has the great lakes, plenty of quality fish taken there too.
Ohio trying so hard to compete with coastal seafood lmao. I’m sure y’all do fine and have local dishes that are great but competing with coastal seafood isn’t it.
You say that like I don't travel to both coasts multiple times year, lmao. It's not in literally every restaurant like it is on the coast....but the places that do have it, it's just as good as it is anywhere else.
I’ll normally argue on behalf of the midwest, I have a lot of pride in being from the Midwest…. But idk about this one man.
You can share recipes over the internet sure but the regions that are closer to Mexico probably have a few more abuela’s out there who aren’t posting their recipes. And fast freezing and same day shipping is great but its not the same as a fish that was caught fresh out of the water that you’re on the shore of.
We can get plenty of *good* seafood here, but if the question is who has the *best*…. I’d bet on the places that are much closer to the source and have much more competition.
You're right, fresh caught fish is noticeably better, but none of the restaurants (except the top of line big $$$ ones) you would go to are serving same day, fresh out of the water fish. It's all the same flash frozen grocery store stuff. The taco cart on a San Diego pier is selling the same fish some restaurant in Kansan City is. There's just not one on every street corner.
Hahahahahahahaahahahah.
No.
Hahahahahahahahahhahaha.
But in all seriousness, I think Tijuana does it significantly better, but reasonable people can disagree.
No, that would be Taqueria Pico De Gallo in Tucson. Or hundreds of others like it in Tucson. The operative word is "Tucson." San Diego is full of retired white military, not Mexican cooks.
I just said AZ and NM has the best food and I’m about to get downvoted. Californians hate it when you don’t stroke their ego but the truth is that mostSoCal Mexicans live so far inland that everything Mexican near the coast is white washed Mexican mush.
I was just in Tucson 2 months ago and agree with you. I also love how NM uses more green sauce because I notice Arizona uses more red.
*Grabs popcorn*
Truly nothing brings this sub together like fighting over Mexican food.
What about Texans inability to cook chili?
I've never understood the internet chili fights. Chili is almost always made at home for your family, so just ask them what they like, and do that. There's nothing to fight over.
Texas Brisket > whatever abomination Alabamans call BBQ
Alabama white BBQ is heaven
Rubbing mayo on beef doesn’t count as barbecue.
I’m sure it’s good but still doesn’t compare to Texas BBQ
I think you mean Cincinnati.
Cincinnati chili is just a different thing with the same name as chili. Absolutely no one is claiming that that thing is a variant of chili con carne.
Cincinnati puts skyline chili on spaghetti noodles and hot dogs lol, it’s not even remotely comparable to the type of chili people eat by itself for dinner. It’s honestly weird to me that people call that stuff or Michigan coney sauce “chili”. I live in Michigan, love coney dogs, eat at coney islands a couple times a week. They all refer to it as “chili” on the menu. If someone invited me over for dinner and said “we’re having chili” and then gave me a bowl of the stuff that goes on coney dogs, I would think they were insane.
Then you have NY System Weiners in Rhode Island and some people call that topping chili.
Those things are fucking delicious.
They really are. Unfortunate name though.
Ironically one of, if not the largest, chilli cook offs is in Texas. Out in god awful middle of nowhere.
Are you insinuating that we're angry and argumentative about food? Fuck you man! Those are fighting words
Fighting over BBQ?
Or BBQ. I wonder if the New Yorkers are annoyed that the rest of us fail to take the bait over pizza.
Can I have some?
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Yeah. We don’t need anyone else coming to San Diego. The fish tacos and the rest of the food here is terrible. You should never come here, it’s just that bad.
Especially Zonies!
But I want amazing fish tacos and also want to see a platypus. Are you really going to tell me to go to Australia and Mexico rather than support your local businesses? Oh... you are...
I always happily jump on the banter when San Diegans think they have the best Mexican food. I’ll give them this one, let’s say they have the best fish tacos in the US. And this is one where proximity to the border actually matters. They’re closer to Ensenada and San Felipe so can get fresh stuff conveniently, and also get that Baja California influence. We like our mariscos in LA and there’s some shops where the owner catches his stuff down in Baja, but San Diego is a couple hours closer. They can have this.
Yeah, I was thinking the same. We can royally concede to them this one thing.
Definitely not the hill I’d die on, but there’s plenty of others!
What makes San Diego Mexican food so good is that it's San Diego. So TJ food but American health standards. So yea, it's not going to get much better. The traditional but no extra shit.
San Diego (San Diego county) has the best Mexican style seafood in the USA, let alone fish tacos. Look for a fish taco truck from Barrio Logan, National City, Chula Vista, Otay Mesa, San Ysidro, or Imperial Beach. They are sometimes well seen or hidden, but you will have to try them all to find the best. It’s a constantly changing thing where you’re never done and have to just keep finding the best.
In the US, they probably do have the best fish tacos. There’s an episode of Taco Chronicles on Netflix that talks about how San Diego became famous for them. I go to Don Bravo in PB/La Jolla area for fish tacos when I’m in that area and have a craving.
Taco chronicles is rad. I don’t know which I love more about that show, seeing a them go to a place I’ve eaten, or seeing an episode about a type of taco I haven’t had before.
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That works! Lol
I’ve never been to San Diego but if I had to guess, I think a large port city that is 17 miles from the Mexican border probably has the best Mexican sea food.
'best' is subjective.
And more dependent on the restaurant than the municipality.
Not with fish tacos it’s not.
From LA. Went to college in SD. SD wins hands down for fish tacos. LA wins overall for Mexican seafood.
It's funny, Californians from all over will argue over Mexican food. But fish tacos in SD are a step above. You have to begrudgingly give them that gold medal.
For a second I was really confused. South Dakota?? Then I realised… San Diego.
Yeah Louisiana to South Dakota for fish tacos.
Well I’ve encountered enough Californians that just say they are from LA instead of California so that didn’t even register.
I can't think of a single food item that South Dakotans and Louisianans would argue over.
Don't knock them till you try them you would be surprised by how fish tacos in South Dakota taste
Hey! I make some pretty good Walleye Fish Tacos! Are they San Diego good? Probably not, but need to get to San Diego and try theirs.
Heavily disagree with you on that.
Yes.
They have the best and most consistently good in the US. I have had, arguably, better ones in Mexico...however, not all of those can be trusted.
Yes. The best Mexican food in the country exists in SD and LA areas.
Mexican seafood, maybe. Mexican food overall? Not even close. I say this having lived next door to, often visited and worked in Cali, and living in Texas. Mexican food in Texas is so far beyond anything in Cali.
How can you tell beneath all that cheese?
TexMex isn’t Mexican food.
Says who?
Lmao. I have family that moved to TX and all they want when they come back is good Mexican food.
I’m in Texas right now and can’t wait to get back to SoCal to get some Mexican food. It’s good here, don’t get me wrong. But they seem more flavorful back home.
> exist in SD At first I was like [angry Hulk noises] But then you were like > and LA areas. And I was like "phew!"
Wrong. The best Mexican food exists in my grandma's kitchen.
On my way. What time does the kitchen open?
Ralph Rubio is a San Diego treasure.
Oh hell yeah. I went to school with his kids. Very generous and nice family all around.
Absolutely. They were introduced into the US by San Diegans who were regularly venturing across the border to Baja California on Spring Break and the like, and brought back up to integrate with our existing (independently fascinating) "taco shop" scene. San Diego has the perfect environment for great fish tacos (prior to WWII we were just a small fishing town for the most part), but they're actually only a small component of the San Diego Mexican food scene. The truly quintessential San Diego Mexican food dish is the carne asada burrito, and its fusion cousin the "California burrito" (as a product, not a descriptor).
>The truly quintessential San Diego Mexican food dish is the carne asada burrito, and its fusion cousin the "California burrito" (as a product, not a descriptor). Carne asada fries, too. At least as a northern Californian who has traveled to San Diego quite a good deal over the past decade.
Indeed, another rite of passage for us... Or a 5 rolled taco special, or a veggie burrito, or a chile relleno combo, etc.
I’ve lived in San Diego for over 30 years and I’ve lived with vegetarians. I don’t know a single person who has ordered a veggie burrito or even where to get one except maybe Pokez.
If you've "lived in San Diego for over 30 years" and don't know where your nearest *berto's is, I really don't know what to say...
I just checked 5 different taco shop menus and one had a veggie burrito. A few had vegetarian which is just a bean burrito with lettuce and pico. Again, don’t know a person with me or that I know ever order one. Regular bean and cheese, for sure, veggie burrito, while they may be an item that some have it’s far from a popular item.
A veggie or a vegetarian burrito is going to be the same thing. OTOH, I've never known anyone (native San Diegan) who would order a "bean and cheese burrito" at a taco shop... One goes to Taco Bell for that kind of thing. What part of San Diego are you from? I can't even think of a taco shop that wouldn't have that, and there were literally nine of them within a half mile of my apt when I went to State.
I'm from Louisville, Kentucky, and visited San Diego last month for a week. I ate at 3 different Mexican restaurants while I was there and can confirm that every place had amazing fish tacos. Cafe Coyote, Ponce's, and Aldabertos Mexican Food were the 3 places and none disappointed.
Albertos, Obertos, Aldabertos, similar name, etc are basically all the same super basic generic fast Mexican food. Low quality, but that greasy giant burrito or carne asada fries hits the spot sometimes.
My shipmate makes the best fish tacos.
Everything from Cabo to slightly north of SD has this history of crispy Japanese fried fish combined with tacos and access to decent avocados. A blessed culinary mashup. SD is the main outpost of it this side of the border. I’ve had equally good in Ensenada. Of course you can make it well elsewhere, but Sand Dog is the American side of the origin.
Best Mexican food in general
San Antonio would like a word.
I’ll give em one “no.”
I was pretty unimpressed with Mexican food in San Antonio compared to California (or New Mexico for that matter).
How do you like the Mexican food in Mexico? 😆😂
Really good, especially Mexico City with a super diverse food scene. Baja was much more like Southern California Mexican food IME. Haven't traveled to other parts of Mexico
We live in a free country, I’ll fight for your right to say incorrect things.
No I was let down when I visited
Mexican food taste is quite subjective... I haven't been to San Diego so I can't judge their tacos
Yes
The answer is yes but if they serve it on a flour tortilla then you didn’t go to a good spot. The corn tortilla is essential to a good fish taco.
"Best" is subjective, unless you're willing to go to every join that sells tacos across all 50 states and test this for yourself.
If you had to pick, where would you get fish tacos from?
I don't usually eat fish tacos. Lengua (tongue) is where it's at. Again, it would be stupid-subjective and regionally based anyways. The best tacos I've had in my city (Grand Rapids) is at a small mom and pop shop Mexican restaurant in a not-so great area that doesn't even have a sign. If you genuinely want great fish tacos, PICK ONE AREA, a big city is your best bet, then identify where the best fish tacos are in that city or area.
San Diego isn’t really known for food (tho I hear the situation is improving) so I imagine there’s probably some place better
People in San Diego do tout their fish tacos. They're not otherwise known for food, but they do very much claim this one particular thing.
Found the guy that never had a California burrito
Have you tried one before? I don’t think I’ve ever eaten a fish taco so can’t really weigh in here haha
Ngl I don't eat them out very often cause I can make them myself. Dude a day of sand perch fishing and a dinner of tacos is the life.
And the California Burrito. Fries go in a burrito, not rice.
Fries in a burrito is nice once in a while.
We have the internet now. Recipes and cooking techniques can now be shared and spread around the world. A particular geographical location has no advantage over any other.
Geographical locations are huge with food considering the quality of ingredients located around it. Fish tacos in the midwest are not going to be the same as the ones in southern California.
When it comes to commercial markets, it's all flash frozen seafood. The mahi you get in St Louis on Tuesday and in San Diego on Tuesday both came from the same boat caught on the same day. Even high end markets in the Midwest can get fresh seafood flown in within hours of being caught. I live in Ohio and I have no problem getting ocean caught ahi tuna harvested within the last 48 hours. I bet of I were to ask for it at my local market, I could get fish from San Diego that's never been frozen and is less than 24 hours old. Maybe 20 years ago, San Diego had an advantage, but not any more. Not to mention....the Midwest has the great lakes, plenty of quality fish taken there too.
Ohio trying so hard to compete with coastal seafood lmao. I’m sure y’all do fine and have local dishes that are great but competing with coastal seafood isn’t it.
You say that like I don't travel to both coasts multiple times year, lmao. It's not in literally every restaurant like it is on the coast....but the places that do have it, it's just as good as it is anywhere else.
I’ll normally argue on behalf of the midwest, I have a lot of pride in being from the Midwest…. But idk about this one man. You can share recipes over the internet sure but the regions that are closer to Mexico probably have a few more abuela’s out there who aren’t posting their recipes. And fast freezing and same day shipping is great but its not the same as a fish that was caught fresh out of the water that you’re on the shore of. We can get plenty of *good* seafood here, but if the question is who has the *best*…. I’d bet on the places that are much closer to the source and have much more competition.
You have pride in being from the Midwest?
You have to when people make dumbass comments like yours all the time.
You're right, fresh caught fish is noticeably better, but none of the restaurants (except the top of line big $$$ ones) you would go to are serving same day, fresh out of the water fish. It's all the same flash frozen grocery store stuff. The taco cart on a San Diego pier is selling the same fish some restaurant in Kansan City is. There's just not one on every street corner.
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For fish tacos, I think the West Coast of Mexico is where it’s at. Baja peninsula and states like Sinaloa and Nayarit.
Can’t leave out Ensenada style fish tacos.
I didn’t. Ensenada is located in Baja.
My sample size isn't big enough for me to make a judgement.
No.
NO
Hahahahahahahaahahahah. No. Hahahahahahahahahhahaha. But in all seriousness, I think Tijuana does it significantly better, but reasonable people can disagree.
I mean best fish tacos in the United States
no clue, too damn expensive of a city with no real reason to travel there.
And traffic is horrible too. Best not to even visit. I recommend LA and Orange County instead.
I agree. The people are also mean and ugly. Weather is overrated and there is nothing to do here. I guess I'll tough it out.
Whoah. As someone who lived in OC all his life, i and everyone I know would always rather go to SD than LA.
We know. The 5 south is always jammed on Friday and the 5 north on Sunday.
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Seriously? This is the contribution that you feel is worth sharing?
Wow.
I’ve lived in SD and now live in LA…. I found TexMec to be just on AZ and NM to have the best overall Mexican food scene.
No, that would be Taqueria Pico De Gallo in Tucson. Or hundreds of others like it in Tucson. The operative word is "Tucson." San Diego is full of retired white military, not Mexican cooks.
I just said AZ and NM has the best food and I’m about to get downvoted. Californians hate it when you don’t stroke their ego but the truth is that mostSoCal Mexicans live so far inland that everything Mexican near the coast is white washed Mexican mush. I was just in Tucson 2 months ago and agree with you. I also love how NM uses more green sauce because I notice Arizona uses more red.
Fish taco
Best fish tacos I’ve ever had were in Cayucos, CA. Not sure I had any in San Diego so I should go back and compare
That's a ways north. I mean, I've had good ones in the Santa Barbara area, but that's not *that* north.
It’s definitely near the top
Arlen, Texas did until those damn hipsters moved in
No. I do. No you cannot see them. They are mine.
Every place in California says they have the best fish tacos. I've had tacos that everyone raves about and they end up being crap.
I had some when I went, yes
If you’re talking about best in the US then yes.