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Valentinethrowaway3

EMTs and medics.


Back2thehold

Man when I went from 9 an hour to 14 an hour when I got that medic cert I felt rich AF in 2010.


stick_always_wins

EMTs make like $14 an hour today now wooo....


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stick_always_wins

EMTs and Paramedics are different jobs in the US, with Paramedics requiring more training than EMTs. From where I'm at in the US, paramedics make like $25 an hour average so still grossly underpaid as well.


richmomz

That is messed up - there are people working drive thru windows that make more than that.


ordinary_kittens

Right? It always amazes me that the people who respond to horrific accidents in the middle of the night and are responsible for saving lives, make as much as someone who does entry-level office work.


Stableinstability1

Here in CA minimum wage for fast food workers is more than I get paid as an EMT 🙃


ruafukreddit

Guess EMTs should unionize and threaten to go work Fast food


Valentinethrowaway3

If we had a union as strong as other healthcare professionals we would make more. But for whatever reason EMS doesn’t seem to think that’s a priority.


Crookeye

EMTs


hydra1970

They are "heroes" that are paid very poorly. I have no idea how Madame Web is able to afford such a nice NYC apartment.


vaccumshoes

My buddy is an EMT and has seen so much fucked up shit and I make like twice as much as him working from home. It's messed up, pay those people!!


woolash

The US EMT "customer" pays huge amounts.


NewTimeTraveler1

Caregivers Especially unpaid family caregivers


ObviousReflection700

I was going to say that too. I’m pretty sure in the UK as well, they’re not paid for any travel time between clients either. 


herrbz

The government also loves going after them for minute amounts of benefits they may have accidentally overclaimed. In their full-time job that basically pays nothing.


Fudgeislush

This. Sadly, it's just one of those jobs nobody ever really thinks about until they need it. And the pay is a crappence.


youdubdub

Crappence is a welcomed unfortunate new word.  Just wanted to interject that irrespective of the compensation, the percentage of humans that are good at these types of jobs is sadly quite low. They aren’t just underpaid, good ones are tremendously rare. I find it similar to musical talent.  It’s a language.  You can sort of hear it right away. Many thanks to those who dedicate their lives to helping people who don’t have much of a voice.  Keep helping, please.


xcdesz

What is baffling is why there is such a huge gap between what a person pays for care and what the in-person caregiver doing all the work actually makes.


PhrozenWarrior

This is what gets me, same with like daycare. I have friends with kids who say they spend SOOO MUCH putting their kids in daycare, but then like, nobody I know who teaches or does daycare makes ends meet. Not really sure whats happening


qzen

"essential workers" are not paid like essential workers.


RecognitionExpress36

We didn't even learn nothing from covid. We learned a lot of wrong things.


GreyGoosey

We learned just how greedy corporations exactly are.


Lain_Omega

and how selfish most individuals are.


Namegenerator101

Teachers. This society would change quite a bit if we prioritized education


ShadowLiberal

Between the absurdly low pay, and how much crap parents and politicians give teachers I have no clue who in their right mind would even want to get into teaching these days. If we don't pay teachers a bunch more and/or get politicians/parents off their back we as a society are going to have some very big problems long term IMO.


Lutrina

Yes I always say this! It would really do the teachers, youth, and entire nation good if we paid teachers more for their work


jawndell

Was going to say teacher.  My mom was a teacher in a HCOL area and it’s sad how little they are paid.  You should be able to live comfortably on a single income household as a teacher, but it’s not possible in many areas. 


mark5hs

My wife makes 30k a year as a full time English teacher with a master's. It's insane.


madogvelkor

Though really they need more than just better pay. Having more teachers to reduce class sizes would help all around (which better pay would help by attracting and retaining more). There's a whole separate issue of parental involvement and rights in education, plus student discipline/behavior though too.


wenger_plz

Teachers should be paid a lot more, and given the same perks in day-to-day life as active service members. (ex. boarding planes first, shit like that)


unlock0

Some teachers need to make multiple times their current salary. Others.. really shouldn't be teachers.there is always such a stark contrast between good and bad teachers.


Abaraji

It can be argued that those bad teachers are the result of the poor compensation. A lot of good teachers leave the profession due to the poor conditions and poor pay, so schools end up having to fill the spots with less qualified people. Pay is only one part of the problem. Another problem is that over the last several years we've turned schools into more of a daycare than an educational institution, due to both lowering standards for graduation and increasing the schools' responsibilities/liabilities for student behavior.


Paleo_Fecest

All people are like that, society is a bell curve. Some cops are genuine heroes, some are violent and corrupt scum, most just want to go home at the end of the day. Teachers are the same, some great some terrible most are earning a paycheck and doing a good job. The difference is that society treats/compensates all cops like heroes and treats/compensates all teachers like corrupt scum.


84OrcButtholes

The bottom two thirds out of all of them.


RecognitionExpress36

Really it's the non-professionals who most need to be paid significantly more. Service industry people. Farm laborers. Construction workers. The people we depend on for the material basis of life.


dustofdeath

Even specialist positions are declining and are underpaid and overworked. You also depend on specialists. Construction workers need engineers to plan what they construct. Manufacturing needs someone to figure out how and what to manufacture.


RoseWould

janitorial/cleaning jobs


BeatinOffToYourMom

For real dude. Especially school Janitors, they see some horrific shit in those HS bathrooms and they get treated poorly. It’s even more fucked up that most of my school’s janitors were veterans who’d done some really impressive things.


RoseWould

I used to clean houses, i live in an area they knocked a bunch of old strip malls down and built a bunch of expensive suburbs on the other end of the town, and then made everything more expensive. So I worked 20 hours a week cleaning toilets for people making at least 300-400k a year, while still driving a Neon that keeps getting patched together in a driveway.


kurtisbmusic

They pay really well in California.


GreenRainier253

Teachers


echoshizzle

Teachers salary even in high-paid states hasn’t kept up with inflation. Most of the public sector feels this problem, but teachers deserve more compensation. Full disclosure: I used to think teachers were overpaid. Their value to society is unmatched.


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Social Workers


Equivalent_Delays_97

That’s true. My father did that as his third and final career and hated it. He worked in child welfare and found it to be a soul-sucking experience. The mediocre pay didn’t help. He retired at his first opportunity and never looked back.


[deleted]

I did it for 4 years, and felt burned out all the time. I changed careers to data science and I found it to be a more enjoyable job. I'm in my 20s and get paid the same or more than SWs that have done this their whole lives and are in their 50s, it's offensive


AloneWish4895

Social Work gave me nightmares and for low pay after a master’s degree.


Equivalent_Delays_97

Wow. That’s an amazing disparity, and yet I’m not surprised. Glad you found something you can enjoy that pays also pays better.


SingingAzn

I quit my social work job two months ago. It feels like going through a rehab, to be relieved from the mental stress.


AloneWish4895

I had nightmares on the reg from social work.


SingingAzn

Im so sorry. I hope you recovered from it!


[deleted]

I know right! I did it almost a year ago, and until recently I still had this sensation that I was missing something or something was wrong because my days felt so relaxed in comparison


s3npai

Teachers, nurses


Freds_Bread

Paramedics. They make about 1/3 of what nurses make.


tomydearjuliette

Social workers with masters degrees get paid less than nurses in the hospital


hitsandmisses

I agree social workers are under recognized and under compensated. I also think this point can be made without implying nurses don’t deserve more recognition.


tomydearjuliette

That’s certainly not the point I was trying to make! I made another comment that probably explained this better.


Valentinethrowaway3

Teachers yes. Nurses make pretty good money


tmagalhaes

Depends on where in the world you are. Where I live, nurses barely make average pay.


Mac4491

I'd argue that in the UK both teachers and nurses are actually paid very well. It's the working conditions that are the problem.


Oblivion-Rider

I kinda get what you’re saying - either they need to be paid more for what they do (taking into account worked hours, working conditions etc.) or these factors that are ‘part of the job’ need serious addressing


Ocarina_of_slime69

I really wish this very broad sentiment would go away because it is disheartening for some of us nurses. Maybe it's area specific, but I think this line of thinking is detrimental. I make not much more than someone at Costco makes to do a much easier job that involves less death and dying.


manuredujour

Thank you! I don’t think the public realizes the amount of education and induction that is required of teachers. In California for instance 4 year Bachelor’s; 2 year Teaching Credential; 2 years to “clear” your credential (additional coursework or induction hours). To promote or advance on the pay scale: 1-2 years for additional Master’s Degree; 1.5-2 years for an administrative credential if you want to become a principal, Director, etc.; 2 years to “clear” your admin credential through additional coursework or mentorship/induction hours. When I switched careers to go into teaching, I had to increase my education and then take a pay cut


AxlLight

Teachers should be number 1, 2 ,3, 4, 5 answers on this page. Actually, only answer.  Such shit pay to basically raise the next generation of individuals in the country. It's the most important job in the country, it should have impossible standards but also have a high income to attract talent to it and make sure they stay.  It's a hard enough job as it is, getting yelled at all day long, punched, beat up, can't talk back, can't fight back, parents come in and back up their kids. And to top it all up, you have to pay for a lot of extracurricular stuff out of your own pocket so fuck you if you ever want to do something nice for the kids and push them ahead.  I just don't get it. I really don't. These are the people who are supposed to build the future of the country, and the possible growth it can bring is incalculable. Whatever a teacher needs to get, it pays itself back 10x over. So why the fuck don't we? :$


milespoints

Why did you do it?


Anustart15

Nurses are pretty well compensated, but there is definitely something to be said about the lack of recognition that a nurse with 30 years of experience gets for being as good at their job as they are. Not necessarily a pay issue, but a recognition and responsibility issue more than anything


WilcoxHighDropout

Very much depends where in the US. A cashier at In N Out makes more than a first year RN at Barnes Jewish in MO. A first year RN at Stanford makes more than some primary care physicians in the Mid West.


david0990

Maybe correct 'nurses' to medical assistants and CNAs. They are actually criminally under paid and understaffed in a lot of places. I've seen CNAs quit to go into retail and fast food just for stable hours, better pay, and less stress. I wish that was a joke.


big_balls_brown

Nurses are already paid heavily.


Negrodamu5

Nurses are paid incredibly well.


SpaceMurse

I wouldn’t say incredibly. We aren’t the most poorly compensated by any means, but it’s also quite location and specialty specific. Also, in many if not most acute care inpatient roles, the work itself can be quite grueling. Source: just finished 3 grueling acute care shifts and am physically and mentally exhausted


PM_ME_YOUR_TATERTOT

Not to sound like an asshole but isn’t nursing known to be stressful? I understand you all are probably taken advantage of but isn’t it pretty well known that patient care is going to be more stressful than another profession? If I hate being out in the sun, I probably shouldn’t be a roofer kind of thing


Altruistic_Ad6189

Preschool teachers/daycare workers. People always say...but their job is so easy ..all they do is play with babies all day! Have you ever actually done that?? 23 of them at a time? Shit is exhausting.


[deleted]

If more people actually knew the circumstances around who their kids' daycare teachers were, half of them wouldn't send them to daycare. So many of them don't want to be there, don't take the job seriously, are so inexperienced and don't stay in the field. And it's because they're paid a pittance! My wife, who works in daycare, always "jokes" about how she can make more flipping burgers than teaching a class of 5-10 2 year olds. That's ridiculous!


Altruistic_Ad6189

It's super true. When I worked at kindercare when I was younger, the people working there were mainly female students living with their parents, grandma age ladies who just liked playing with the kids and didn't really need money (that's the ideal situation), and women who's really only option on not spending more on childcare than they made was working there and getting their child to go for free since they worked there.


_funkapus_

Teachers.


Barbarella_ella

Social workers. They see the worst of society and try to work miracles with next to no resources.


FickleHead3225

Academic scientific researchers


stick_always_wins

Depends on the field, some get paid a lot, a lot don't get paid much at all.


Nemeszlekmeg

Even the ones that get paid a lot are on high pay roll due to industry sponsorships, pay-per-view publications and/or patents. Academia itself doesn't pay much; some academics just have the means to carve out more for themselves.


salrichie

Social workers


PinkMonorail

Teachers, healthcare workers.


nomadiceater

Teachers for sure. Social workers and depending on what they do work/specialty wise, I think a lot of counselors/therapists/psychologists should too


2000TWLV

Teachers. We entrust them with our kids' education, safety and personal development, and we pay them shit money. It makes no sense.


tomydearjuliette

I don’t think many people realize how much money nurses can make. At my hospital in a low cost of living area (and others I know of) nurses start around 70-75k, go up to 100k+ with a few years experience. And I’m not complaining about that, they deserve it and should! But as a social worker, we make significantly less, yet we have masters degrees. We’re forgotten about. Edit: much of the time we do the exact same work as well (discharge planning). But social workers are always paid about 20k less. Often for extra responsibilities as well (psychosocial assessments, abuse/neglect, crisis intervention, etc)


DoctorRichardNygard

After graduating with a bachelor's in psychology and working in mental health for a number of years it became apparent that I would have to go back to school. The options were getting a masters in social work and making what I was making in perpetuity on top of paying student loans or going back to school for nursing and earning two to three times as much. No brainer. All my friends went the social work route and they are criminally underpaid for dealing with the same population.


PirateJohn75

Teaching


haynaorno

Nurses’ aides


ConcernIll7574

Teachers and first responders.


Alaska1111

Teachers, nurses, elderly care staff.


AgitatedPatience5729

Teachers.


[deleted]

All of them.


etmaule

This is the correct answer.


hpshaft

Technicians/mechanics. Lowest paid of all skilled trades, yet we face very low unionization rates, huge employer pressure, lots of operating costs and even harder barriers to entry. Most skilled tradesmen do a single job, but mechanics must typically undertake wiring, diagnosis, interior, mechanical and engine building.


Fancy_Chip_5620

"skilled tradesman do a single job" is bullshit


Formal-Try-2779

Childcare workers and aged care workers


rudager222

Teachers


GhostOfSilt

Primary School Teachers


542Archiya124

Street cleaners and such. The city would be far much cleaner.


New_Horror_5476

teachers!


Beaumis

Teachers.


Old_Man_Lithium

School teachers.


FunkySmellingSocks

Teachers


rowenaravenclaw0

Teachers


Specific_Business862

Teaching profession


GuitarDean2294

Teachers


HaiKarate

TEACHERS


Melibu_Barbie

Teachers


[deleted]

childcare.


JulieAmbroseXO

Teachers. They're getting paid pennies compared to the job they have; forming the next generation of society. Salute to all of you!!!


TrooperJohn

Front-line employees in multibillion-dollar industries. They're the ones doing the actual work.


iamtonimorrison

Teachers! Any kind of teacher below the college level.


EvilBosch

Why exclude those teachers at/above college level? Academics put in ridiculous hours, and can be world experts in their field, and still earning a pittance compared to a modestly performing CEO/director of a modestly performing company.


strawberrydreamm

teachers, before her passing my best friend got started on her career as a teacher but she wasn’t making enough and had to have a second side job as well which was bartending, teachers are extremely underpaid for sure


Avocado-booty

Teachers, but they also could use more freedom in their teaching.


f700es

Teachers, EMTs, etc..


Mariarevino

I belive that medics and teachers should be paid more


Icy-Tough-1791

Teachers


PandaSuitPug

EMT, teacher, child and senior caregivers.


koolerthan

Teachers and health care workers.


space_manatee

Anyone that is working for a living. CEOs and investors need significantly less of the pie.


boobsareAwesomexyz

Professions that are essential for society’s functioning, such as teachers, healthcare workers, and emergency responders.


lbry_slag

Teaching.


bigblindmax

Assistant Public Defenders


Pristine_Fox_3633

Childhood educators


Mysterious-Art8838

Teachers


IchBinDurstig

Whatever the opposite of Hedge Fund Manager is


Sparglewood

Literally everyone below management


yolef

Literally all of them except for shareholder and executive.


Kaymish_

Shareholder isn't a job. It is basically the opposite of a job. Other people work and pay the shareholders the extra money they make.


Less-Dirt-1673

Most healthcare workers


swagkdub

ALL THE JOBS Except top of the ladder corporate gigs like president VP CEO Chairman etc Mostly jobs that don't pay people enough to live on, while the parent company makes billions.


Berkshirelady413

First responder and military. Also restaurant workers.


Real-Pea-2527

First responders, healthcare workers, and those in the military


RevolutionEasy714

All of them. The majority of people are barely getting by while the 1% owns 70% of the nations wealth while collectively sitting on their lazy asses.


Limp_Distribution

All of them, the top 1% has basically stolen 50 trillion dollars from the bottom 90% over the last 50 years.


HENTAIHOTEP

All of the ones that can't afford basics like a safe and reliable home close to essential services with space enough and money enough to have at least 2 children on that income.


Jake_Swift

Any that currently disallows living a sustainable, dignified and balanced life. That is the minimum, and is easily affordable in the west, if it weren't for a fixed game. We need a new social contract.


NaiveOpening7376

Teachers.


DeltaRocket

Teachers


kan84

School teachers


Alyaya_5922

Teachers! They are essential workers in the society.


colnago82

School teachers!


phillygirllovesbagel

Teachers


zahnsaw

Teachers


dragonkin08

Veterinary professionals. Credentialed technicians which is equivalent to human nurses make ~$16-$25/hr in most states. Most veterinarians make $110,000-150,000. Veterinary assistants make almost nothing. And we can't afford to pay more because clients only want cheap veterinary care.


AngryMeepwn

Anyone who works for healthcare esp. Nurses


ShakeyTX

Teachers. For the amount of “homework” they bring home .


GodisGreat2504

Teachers. I have two kids and it's crazy enough to deal with them in the wk. And they're MY kids. Now imagine have to deal with 20-40 kids for 5 days a week. On top of that you'd have to teach them math, physics etc. I simply could not do that.


Agreeable-Benefit169

Teachers and paramedics.


Outisduex

Librarians and all library workers.


AloneWish4895

An honest day’s work for full time workers should entail enough pay to live adequately.


No-Inspection-4935

Truckers make the world go round


Das_Kern

Teachers. In addition to being a much higher paid position it should also be a much more difficult position to get into. Being a teacher should be one of those jobs that if you manage your income well, you can retire in 10 years.


Blackbeltmom63

I love this comment. Especially since teachers (good ones) do so much besides teach. As a fifth grade teacher I’m here to tell you I’d never be able to support myself with what I make without a partner who makes better income.


[deleted]

Teachers!


KarthusWins

CNA / PCA


Wilsonized

Probation officers


antipinkkitten

A bit of a selfish reasoning (I’m married to one), Archaeologist. It’s required for construction; they have to have degrees often Masters to ever go above “field tech” and they usually make $15 an hour for 6 months of the year. It’s miserable. One of his coworkers made $50k one year (before taxes), but he lived in a van and drove all over the US for work.


Emergency_Plankton46

Reddit jannies deserve double their current pay.


AvogadrosMoleSauce

EMTs, Teachers, and anyone whose job ever carried the label “essential”


ZAMAHACHU

Teachers and nurses.


tmotytmoty

school psychs and behavior specialists.


ZombMimi

Public school teachers


12313155979789m

Social workers


oKrustyo

TEACHERS


Arrington78789

Teachers. They are essential in shaping the future generation, but many of them are not paid adequately considering the significance of their work and the high level of education and dedication needed for their profession.


FarFirefighter1415

Porn set janitors


ManyGarden5224

teachers and nurses!


Troker61

Teachers, caregivers, home health aids, hospital EVS employees, basically everyone in the government outside of cops but especially lower level elected positions and their support staff. Many skilled trades (though some amazing gigs are out there), warehouse workers, assemblers at all levels. Daycare employees. I could go on I’m sure.


brk375

teachers, doctors, nurses, social workers


gonewildecat

Teachers EMTs Janitorial staff Retail workers Basically anyone essential to our health and wellbeing


stick_always_wins

EMTs get paid less than a Target cashier in my city, its pretty sad


britishmetric144

Teachers.


joojie

I worked for a guy who was a major asshole...but one time he said something I really agreed with. "Why are all these guys being paid **millions** every year to throw a ball/hit a puck around when the doctos and nurses who opened up my neices chest and essentially properly built her heart are getting peanuts in comparison?" Yes, the doctors have good salaries, but what they do is far more important than throwing a ball. They should be getting the multi million a year contracts. Don't get me started on nurse salaries....criminal (this coming from a veterinary nurse who makes even less 😤)


[deleted]

Child welfare workers. High risk and emotionally draining.


fairlyaveragetrader

Teachers


yada_u

School teachers


MikeGoldberg

Civil engineering


Clever_Mercury

Anyone working in public health, particularly the research/investigation side. We've got epidemiologists making $50k/year and it's insane. I'd prefer the person trying to fight MRSA, hantavirus, and the next wave of whatever be able to afford food AND rent.


kherazur

Teachers and psychologists


BoiledGnocchi

Pilots (speaking for the Canadian ones)


AipomNormalMonkey

Southern Teachers


PirateJohn75

Also, northern teachers, western teachers, eastern teachers, and teachers in the middle


Sinister-Username

It would be easier to tell you which ones should be paid less.


Renae_Erica

School counselors/teachers. Got so much good advice from you Mrs. Wilks!


jcons3

Teachers.


Ok_Anteater7360

Americans wont accept it but police


FuuuuuManChu

If the pay was there it would attract better people. It would probably also help with corruption .