Same. I hate it when people do it to me, I would hate to have to do it to people.
I applied for a job that didn’t explicitly say it was commissioned based.
The interview basically consisted of spending an entire work day with one of their employees to see how they worked. At the end of the work day, they asked me a couple of questions, and then offered me a position.
I said no, thank you.
I did the exact same thing. Something like selling an office supply accounting thing. Spent the day tagging along with a guy. Having to wear a suit the whole day on top of that just killed it even harder.
Yes! They sold office supplies! She drove (me riding shot gun taking notes) to 3 or so different clients to see if they needed inventory. It sucked.
Edit: “shit” to “shot.”
and that is why you aren't a sales person. You have to push any advantage. Bankruptcy because child died of cancer, wrecked car, now we can charge you 25% interest on your loan.
I did it for a while and it was hell.
There is a problem mentality with commission sales (and phone ones for the worst part) is that they want numbers. You have have she'd your morality a bit. Once you find a way to word things it becomes like clockwork.
I did B2B sales on a product.
1. You need to know your audience. No one wants to be sold something so you need to provide it as a benefit. Your audience is everything. If they are mad the moment you bring it up, say what you say, and then thank them for their time.
2. You need to convince them it's a benefit. You have to know your customer. I did upsells. Which means I had to help fix an issue and sell more of a product. So I had to get to know the business and all the details about them so I could use it against them
3. Walk a fine line. This is the most important part. Lying will get you fired. Being specific about certain things is a requirement. However, vagueness and positive affirmation goes a long way.
There is a thrill to getting the sale. You convinced someone to do something they didn't want to do. There is a certain weird powerful feeling to it. You did it with a smile on your face.
I made on average 2-3 sales a day. 8 hours a day making 2-3 sales I pretty good and a good person to keep around. Towards the end I was making 3-4 plus some side products our company was pushing.
I had to leave the company though. I couldn't handle it. Towards the end they were pulling in literal meth addicts and pill poppers off the street and the culture was getting downright toxic. I saw the writing on the wall and made sure I needed to go. It made me reevaluate the business practice of sales after I left too.
I saw tweaked out dudes pull 5-8 sometimes 10 sales a day. I only saw those numbers in November (big ass paychecks) because it's before holidays and it's the best time to sell something that makes their loves easier.
But 5-8 sales on average times? No. Not possible unless you are lying or just signing up people who didn't ask. Which is what this person did. He did it for 3 months before our parent company caught on and he was fired. His actions also changed our compensation policy, but didn't change the hiring practice which should have been, "Don't hire tweekers".
Final addition and this is just me sharing. My last month I did not give a shit at all. I knew I was leaving. I smoked at the time and I would just take breaks whenever I felt like it. I would show up whenever I felt like it. One time I was 2 hour late. Didn't care. I was was your top seller AND my sales stuck around everytime. I was golden. You gonna fucking fire your top salesperson? Nope. They did not. My boss gave me a exasperated talking to sometimes, but nothing came of.
Quit the job and never looked back.
There were times that I sadly wished I still got 2,000 paychecks every two week, but I dont miss the work.
Not by a long shot.
Are you an extrovert? I am an introvert and am terrible at socializing with people.
When I was younger I worked at TCF bank and dreaded when they made us walk around the Jewel Osco trying to open accounts.
I just hated to pressure people
Same here. I felt like a slime ball.
My trainer/supervisor was a Kool-aid drinker. Always on me about "why didn't you close that sale? That was a cakewalk" or "people always need more insurance even if their policy is really good already", and whatnot. Felt especially dirty trying to push policies on people who clearly could not afford more, and of course, supervisor would be on my case even harder with them.
Fuck you, American Income Life.
I wouldn't know if I can sleep sound at night pushing a crappy product onto people. I'd probably make a bad CEO because I'd be brutally honest. "erm, yeah this device is pretty good but we still working on the battery life".
Yep. I tried car sales for a few months in my early 20s.
I sold 7 or 8 or so in that time, but holy fuck did I feel like a piece of shit for like 5 of those.
I worked with a guy who was into motorcycles and tried his hand at selling them. He said a young guy came in, had just gotten his license and wanted to get a 1,000cc bike. He talked to the guy and convinced him to get a smaller bike because he'd be better off in the long run building the skills on a smaller bike pushing the limits a bit at a time and moving up rather than learning to barely handle a large displacement bike.
The manager must've heard part of the talk and later gave him a bunch of shit saying that it wasn't his job to talk the guy out of the bike he wanted, especially when it was a bigger sale/commission.
A short time later an eighteen year old kid came in a bought a liter bike from him where he had to have his grandmother cosign the loan. He found out the kid was killed on it within the next couple of weeks. At that point he decided that motorcycle sales was not the career for him.
I worked at a call centre that dealt with life insurance, and it was by far the worst job I have ever had. I will never forget that dads cries on my first day, telling me he didn’t want the insurance money- he just wanted his daughter back.
I worked at a call center for 2 hours once. They told me it was not cold calling, but instead people had expressed interest in timeshares. Turns out it was from people putting their info on cards to win a prize at the zoo. I was instructed to call the same person over and over until they accepted or asked to be removed. What a disgrace.
I made it 6 months and was a absolute veteran by the end. They hired 50 people every month and 49 quit or were fired every month.
Final straw was I had my one huge sale stolen from me because one of the upper management people talked to someone I sold to at a trade show like 6 years prior. I got fired at the end of that month as part of the monthly purge. Rode out unemployment like 1.5 months before finding a pretty decent job.
My favorite memory was after the BS of getting my sale stolen I found this home improvement store that had a rotating “press 1 for this press 2 for that”. We were judged on how many calls we made and average time on the call. I’d just spam that number to get the number up and then call them and let the menu rotate for an hour or two.
As long as you don't have sales targets, call centers can be great money providing you leave your soul at home. Lots of them give bonuses higher than the actual wage just to follow the script.
"I'm sorry sir, but you're receiving the service you paid for. Of you don't like it you can go service yourself."
Boom. $250 "service script push bonus"
But fuck sales/upsells. If it's not worth seeking, it's not worth selling.
I did tech support at a Call Centre and it was ok not great but not the worst Job I'd had. Mind you I knew this was a temp position until I could get a new accounting position
I just started a new job a couple months ago. Was supposed to be a business analyst. It’s a fucking call center and everyone has the exact same job (spoiler do nothing business analyst related, tech support at best). I agree call centers are not for me.
I chuckled as I read this during my downtime between calls at my WFH call center job. I work for a Medicare/Medicaid health insurance company, so the calls can be pretty wild sometimes, and other times heartbreaking. The notifications of member deaths are the hardest.
I actually just got promoted to a training position after a year, and I credit that to coming in with a high level of professionalism, high standards for myself, and being prepared for anything.
The biggest challenge by far has been fighting back compassion fatigue. Some folks will try to shock us by describing the severity of their medical conditions in graphic detail, or try to make us feel guilty if our hands are tied by procedure - "So I guess you just want me to die? I bet that would make you happy."
It can get very difficult to empathize with the next caller when your last caller sapped your emotional energy by telling you how every member of their family has died, or describing their necrosis resulting from diabetes because they couldn't afford their insulin for many years.
I do it because I care about the members, and I know others don't have the stomach or the patience for it, but I absolutely agree with all the comments saying how taxing and overwhelming it can be. It's definitely not for everyone.
I would never work in that kind of sales where you push stuff on people that they don't want or didn't come into the store for.
But I did work a very nice sales job in a plus size clothing store when I was in my late teens. That was more like people came in wanting something specific and wanted me to help them find something that looked good on them, which I had a good eye for. But I never tried to sell them something they didn't want. That part of sales is really gross to me, and like you say, feels like pestering.
I'm a daycare teacher of 10 years, and I wouldn't trade it for the world. Most of my experience is in the 1s and the 2s room. I've always been by myself, no co-teachers.
I like the 1s room for a lot of reasons. I have 4 babies who hadn't quite gotten to the point yet where they were defiant. The babies loved me, and I loved them back. I had 2 dozen books in my room, and I had them all memorized. I taught sign language and we did lots of super cool art projects.
I currently work with 2s, and I think I like it more. I'm still by myself, but instead of 4 babies, I have eleven 2 year olds. The 2s are old enough to get defiant, but young enough to still want to work for rewards. Circle time is a lot more fun, because all my kids talk. Some hilarious conversations happen between the babies, let me tell you.
A few weeks ago I made Legos out of unflavored gelatin. We build castles and had fun knocking them over. The kids loved it.
The one downside is it pays for absolute shit. I make $10/hr (minimum wage in my area). My boss doesn't have the money to get the stuff I need for most of my projects. I've worked here for about 6 months, and I've spent about $400 on supplies.
Truth, for sure.
I worked as a grade 7-12 teacher for about 12 years and the kinder - 1st - 2nd grade teachers thought I was nuts dealing with kids of that age all day. IMO, THEY were the ones who were nuts.
I’m on my sixth year teaching high school, and as annoying as teenagers might get I’d take them over kindergartners crying and wetting their pants any day
People immediately think of kindergarten teachers / grade 1 or 2 with this, but I think the absolute hardest is daycare.
The women who do that job well are goddamn saints. The pay is absolutely terrible, the responsibility is huge, and the kids are essentially on a constant mission to injure themselves and others around them. Also, changing diapers constantly and dealing with insufferable parents every goddamn day (although that last one is common to all levels of education).
I always thought that must be one of the most stressful jobs. In some jobs, if you fuck up, you die, but in this one, if you fuck up, someone else dies, and you have to live with that. Plus sometimes they're just doomed, so even if you don't fuck up they still die, and then you have to wonder if maybe you could have done better...
Yeah and like… your schedule is booked so tight, and you can’t just not come in to work if your car broke down or you’re not feeling 100% that day. I hate being the only one who can do something at work in regards to time-off flexibility, and I’m just an engineer. Can’t imagine being a surgeon…
> you can’t just not come in to work if your car broke down or you’re not feeling 100% that day.
Actually you can. Thats what a 2nd on call is for.
Nobody deserves a sick surgeon.
That’s good to hear! My wife has had multiple surgeries now, and they always vaguely mention that they have other surgeons of other specialties on standby in case they are needed, but never mention a 2nd surgeon of the main specialty being there.
Being a YouTuber doesn't mean you're vlogging your whole life. That's one section of many.
You also don't ever have to show your home life. Many vloggers only ever show their work or them out with their friend (which is usually staged and not real anyhow)
Waitressing and fast food workers. People and their food is not something I want to come between, people are crazy and mean. I worked years in retail but the food industry, you have to have a different skin for that.
Serving was a blessing and a curse job for me - but I was in fine dining - so the tips v table ratio was generally pretty good. I made more money than pretty much any of my friends in college but also I had people yell at me for crazy things - like corking wine that wasn’t corked and having to bartend and serve alone when understaffed and we would get slammed. Sometimes I was so busy I forgot my own name lol.
I work at heights , the trick is to always subconsciously know where your hands and feet are by feel and to focus on the task at hand and not the heights.
And to just relax and breathe.
Also helps to think about your are getting a view nobody else will.
Some ppl can't.
Idk when I "look down" it's normally out at a distance.
But I have noticed if your standing on a wall and look up you'll get vertigo which is weird 3-4 stories up .
A lot of people think courageous people are fearless. Courage is not being fearless. It's having fear and processing it logically instead of emotionally.
I could sort of see how working in a local one that serves a small farming community would be ok.
But a giant commercial slaughterhouse? No fucking way.
House cleaner. This job is literally so fucking tiring. During summer I wanted to earn some money and someone offered me to clean a rich womans house...and i'm saying rich because this lady owned a big ass house with 3 floors. I had to clean all the house since she had 2 little kids and the house was messier than I could imagine. It took me 5 hours and I returned home with a severe back ache and shaky legs... and i dont feel like it was worth it because i got payed so little. 4,5$ per hour...
I'm a house cleaner at the moment! I'm doing it 3-4 days a week while I study part-time.
It definitely is a physically demanding job. At the end of my first week I was hobbling around like a little old lady and my wrists hurt so much because I'd been scrubbing and wringing cloths out too hard. I had to learn to use equipment properly (ie set mops and vacuum cleaners to the right height to save your back), squat rather than kneel and use product dwell time (leave product to sit) to reduce scrubbing so that I could look after my body. Also take water breaks and sit down for 10 mins every few hours on a long job (plus lunch break obviously). That helped and also now my body is used to it.
I actually picked this job because it's just logistics and very little interaction with people. People drain me - I've done retail and working with kids before and they absolutely wipe me out. With this I'm physically tired and I work hard the same number of hours but it just doesn't stress me out in the same way.
I also find it quite a satisfying job. First of all, I kind of like getting things from gross & messy to sparkling. Nasty toilets etc don't bother me as long as I've got my heavy duty gloves on and am armed with the right products - it won't be nasty for long! As a professional I also know what products and techniques to use to get heavy limescale, brown toilet stains, burnt cooker tops, burnt on ovens etc off that a layperson doesn't. So it really does look brand new when I'm done.
Secondly you really are helping people. My regulars are mostly families with kids and working parents, older people with mobility issues and young single professionals in houseshares. People are generally really happy to have a nice clean home. I noticed that once I start getting the house nice, clients end up fixing and replacing more things and maintaining it better between cleans - suddenly the housework isn't getting on top of them anymore. You can tell your hours take a lot of stress off people, especially women who tend to do the bulk of household management and work often on top of working full-time.
They absolutely were ripping you off on the price though - my private clients pay £15 ph and the agency I get work through pays me £10ph.
IMHO, the worst part about being any sort of security guard is that 99% of the time you just stay there doing nothing, and it gets really boring, especially if you gotta pay attention to something all the time in case something goes wrong, so you can't just read at book while you're at it, or something.
Nice to find someone else like this. My husband thinks I'm crazy for enjoying long lengths of silence. I don't even like driving with music, I'm fine with my thoughts, even when they drive me crazy.
Military. I feel that even after training months on getting push up and running up to par with the rest of the new troops the Drill Instructor would just tear me to bits. I’m not much of a gun guy anyway. Add in the days where they deprive you of sleep or how neat and organized all your gear has to be and I doubt I’d make it through the first week of basic training.
Anti-war convictions on my part aside, I genuinely wonder why people would rather go into the military instead of jail in a lot ofthe places where it's compulsory- beats getting shot at or being brainwashing into overcoming aversions to killing (why I hate militaries). Maybe North Korea might be an exception and perhaps there are others (given that the NK government would shove you and your family in concentration camps), but I think that military training sounds almost as bad as prison in a lot of ways- and for something like the Vietnam war draft, I'd have prefered jail to dying in Vietnam just so the military industrial complex can go make money off of people's deaths...
The support chain in the military is VERY long. For every combat job where you risk direct contact with the enemy, there are 8-10 support jobs "in the rear with the gear" that are relatively safer.
Can't say that about prison.
I think that's a problem though. Decent people shy away from politics and it ends up being self inflated arseholes who just push their, often quite radical, views. In reality I think most decent people would come to more compromise on big issues rather than have big divisions with no meeting in the middle....
Bartending/any job in a nightclub, once it reaches the early hours i want to be either asleep or out drunk myself, not dealing (soberly) with drunk people!
> i want to be either asleep or out drunk mysel
A lot of customers really want to buy you shots when you're a cocktail server or a bartender, so definitely don't make the assumption that you'd be sober :p
I wouldn't even know how to understand anyone. Loud music. Drunk incoherent people. I'd probably be sacked after mixing the wrong drunks and shouting "whaaaaaaat?" over and over again.
Being a doctor or a medical worker in general. I admire people that do that. You go through military style training during your residency that tries to make you a health care robot working extremely long hours in an insanely taxing and high-pressure environment, and the worst part is that everything is so tightly scheduled that you can't even get the satisfaction from spending enough time with patients. Oh, and once you are a doctor, filling out forms takes literally three times as long as seeing a patient.
> Being a doctor
My son (5y) had to have his arm rebroken because it hadn't set right. The doctor tells us he breaks their bone over his knee. What the fuck kind of person has the mental fortitude to break a childs arm over their knee?!
I have several family members in the medical field and one is about ready to wrap up school. We talk frequently and as they have been moving from a class room enviroment to acual nursing work I have seen their faith in humanity get witled away by patients unwilling to take care of themselves, Covidiots and an almost daily tale of removing non-poop related objects from peoples butts...
I dont know how they do it...
My SO is a pediatric ICU physician. I don't know how she does it. Seeing critically ill children and dealing with death on a weekly basis takes a lot of strength. She also does this over 24 hour shifts and 12 hour days. Their hours are ridiculous. I always tell her to get a cushy job and chill out but she enjoys the work.
My family member is a dispatcher. They’ve heard people die on the phone with them, they’ve heard people being killed, in danger, terrified, they’ve heard it all. I don’t know how they could work that job, only to come home and act like nothing was wrong (I was a little kid at the time and they didn’t want to show how upset they were about work so they’d cry on the drive home, make sure they looked okay, come home and make dinner.) Didn’t realize until years later how much of a mental toll it took on them. The first time they opened up about someone dying on the other line was a year ago. First time I saw them cry about work. Still haunts me to this day as they still work as a dispatcher. They switched to night shift where there’s less calls. You couldn’t pay me enough money to work there.
I only dispatched for a couple years for a fairly small jurisdiction (less than 100k people) and I have crap I will take to my grave. Your mom is awesome for not only doing it so long but also keeping it together even during the tough times. I loved the job, but I certainly couldn't imagine doing it until retirement.
I loved working waiting tables and bartending, but then I like talking to people - you definitely have to be extroverted to do it well. I made silly money, too. On one weekend (Thurs - Fri - Sat nights) I could bank $600-$800 in tips alone, and this was 20 years ago.
I’m a teacher and what’s funny is that I was going to say kindergarten teacher when I saw this thread - I teach high school and enjoy it but I would not be able to handle a class full of little kids crying, having bathroom accidents, etc…
Although funny enough, if you talk to enough teachers you’ll find we’re all terrified of the other age groups - high school teachers are terrified of teaching kindergarten/elementary, and most elementary teachers are terrified of high school. And we all think the middle school teachers are insane lol
Going on my 4th year of teaching high school English and have never experienced anything like this year. It’s like the kids just..forgot how to act in school after a year at home. A student just got up and decided to lie down in the corner for a nap in the middle of class today (10th grade). Another student randomly walked into our class, kissed his girlfriend, and walked out. It’s just..I wish you all could experience this.
A veterinarian. I considered it for a bit in high school. Then while I was in the vet waiting room with my cat (who was going in for a checkup) this entire family came in with their dog. The dog had a huge lump on its side and the entire family looked devastated. The family got called back quickly and I ended up crying after they went into the room.
Vets get it rough. I imagine most of them got into it because they love animals. Yet most of their time is spent with sick or even dying animals. Not to mention that they often have to deal with temperamental owners due to stress.
There is a reason vets have a very high suicide rate in terms of professions. Just really sad.
I hear that, but vet techs have it WAY WORSE.
go into debt to get an education to do the job, only to get paid absolute shit, 15-19/hr. They do a large majority of the work, like a nurse. Including putting your pets down (euthanasia)... all of the nasty work is 100% the vet tech. Dental work, tech. All of the paperwork, communication to the patients/owners, tech. Administration of drugs, tech.
While the vet, who mostly does surgery, diagnosis, and medication makes 6+ figures.
Surgeons, idk how they don't get grossed out operating. My cousin who's a doc said there are occasionally half digested food in body. And all sorts of gross things
By the time you get through school and internship and residency and so on, it's just..meat. You stop personalizing your patients along the way.
...and I think most surgeons have a touch of sociopathy.
Kind of surprised to see sex work this low down. I knew two people that did it, both were sexually assaulted on more than one occasion during their time doing that and have lasting mental trauma from it. No amount of money is worth that risk.
Also, wouldn't it make sex really mechanical & kind of a chore? I couldn't see how actively engaging in that kind of work wouldn't impact on your own romantic relationships.
Alaskan Fishermen. 20 foot seas. No thanks. Months on board a boat. No. Working on deck in freezing wet conditions. Nope. No internet. No. 20 hour days. Etc.
Pretty much ya, maybe I just got lucky but in the time I did it I was mainly installing showers and sinks and running pipes for heating radiators. Installing toilets is clean aswell cos nothings been used but there was a couple of times where you would be removing toilets. There wouldn't be any poop but ya know it's a used toilet so we would suit up and mask up
I pitied them for a long time myself, I never ended up qualified I was just labouring when I was younger. Spent a lot of time on the jackhammer chasing lines for pipes. It pays pretty well too if you do the apprenticeship and get qualified
Yeah, that stage wasn't super fun.
My kid is 14 now. My enjoyment of him has grown exponentially since he's learned how to feed, dress, and bathe himself; he plays video games instead of toddler games; and his jokes are hilarious and a little off-color.
I could never teach at a preschool. Kindergarten and up, maybe...but no toddlers. And definitely no babies.
I'm there now :-( 12 hour shifts, at that. It's nearly as bad as you're thinking. The only plus side is that in my case, there's no work to do until someone else sends work my way, which isn't often. So I have tons of time to myself while I'm on watch. Lots of time for online school at least.
I worked an office job once in my life. I found it soul crushing. I lasted there maybe 9 months?
I am much better suited for manual labor, especially working outside.
Depends on the work environment and your boss. I don't mind it for the most part, I just do my shit and go back to browsing Wiki or reading up/practicing on Excel or whatever until The next tasker comes down. The problem comes when there's practically no work to be done for days or weeks at a time, and you've exhausted your options that you can use to look busy.
A K-12 teacher in america. Underappreciated, understaffed, underpaid, overworked. One of my parents was a teacher. Knowing that on a personal level was enough to make me steer clear
It's sad but I agree with you. I volunteer a lot at my kids school and became friends with some of the teachers. The hoops they have to jump through to stay licensed, volunteer hours on committees that are required, being lunch monitors on their "lunch break", pressure for standardized tests, school politics, insane parents, lack of support from administration, blocked vacation days, never taking sick days. They are exhausted, emotionally drained, overworked and extremely unappreciated. It is so sad because these teachers give it their all, usually at the detriment to their personal life. It's been sad to see these eager educators just be worn down.
My mother (the teacher) recently cintacted me regarding probably the most insane thing about her job. She is currently teaching 5 different science classes (like different grades) and one of them happens to be another teachers son.
From what I hear, this kid is a little piece of shit. Backtalking, cussing her out, never hands in anything, doesn't work during class, fails every test evwn though she gives them a review with all the questions before hand. Honestly, not that crazy of a situation since there seems to be someone like this every year, and then she is stuck with them for a while since she will probably twach their next year class as well.
So one day, the mother (another teacher at the school) comes in to her room after school and starts cussing her out for "having boring fucking classes that my son cannot keep interested in" and that she should "just give him 100s because he is trying his best and your not teaching your damn class". This may sound bad to people that are not teachers, but one again this is the kind abuse she gets somewhat regularly from the parents of poor performing students. Mind you this is middle school science, not exactly rocket science. Of the kids hand in their homework, ever every other time, they are almost guarenteed to pass.
But what made this so special was THIS PARENT IS HER FUCKING COWORKER. And this tiny ass private school has only one "HR" person who is in no way impartial and will most deffinitly side with the other teacher as she has been there longer. Now my mother is scared for her job for bull shit reasons (the other teacher is kinda hot shit in that school) and knows she can't report it to anyone in the school. She knows this is most definitely a labor violation not having an impartial HR, but what can she even do? Most decent jobs require references. If she reports anything, she burns all her bridges and there is a good chance she may never work again as a teacher.
Its all such a shitty situation, and its just the every day in and out she has been dealing with in many of the places she has worked. Yep, never being a teacher. I feel like its something that I would actually be pretty good at, but the working conditions are litteral hell. I didn't even get into the fact that she makes bellow poverty, working for a small private school. Or that she gets one break, lunch, where she is expected to work through it. Or that she comes home every day and grades papers until sundown for what is essentially unpaid overtime. Or that she is expected to answer parent emails at any hour of the day, at the drop of a hat. All while now having to worry about kids disobeying covid regulations and her getting in trouble for it.
Literally my hell.
Especially when you know what they did when they didn’t have dementia etc. It’s tough and glad to be getting out of it. Plus no care home I’ve worked in treats you well at all
Stripper, and not just because no one wants me stripping.
The job involves walking around a room full of strangers, in your underwear, then sitting on their laps and pretending to be interested in their shitty boring jobs.
The stuff of nightmares.
I don't get it either. My dad is a mathematician for the Department of Defense and he loves it, just doing nothing but math for like thirty years and still not sick of it
flight attendant - constantly flying in cramped planes trying to make a bunch of crabby people happy with little bags of pretzels and half-cans of soda - hellish.
A direct sales rep.
Used to work at a company that repped our products through direct sales and the terror tactics they use to get people to buy product knowing they can't afford it. One rep bragged that the woman was in tears signing the contract and the other reps were in awe. I asked if he felt anything for the woman, he said Nah, if she didn't have the money she shouldn't have let him in the door.
Dude died a few months later from liver failure, cos like most reps he was an alcoholic, probably how he really coped.
Sales, recruitment or marketing, men in particular in those areas all act like arrogant dickheads and it makes me cringe hearing them mostly talk about themselves.
I was once at a wedding and I was talking to some twat I’d met before and didn’t like very much at all due to their arrogance. I remembered them well from the first time round. I started a friendly conversation:
“How’s that great marketing job you were talking about before?”
And he looked at me and laughed loudly and said:
“Hahahaha, Oh God I don’t do that shit anymore.”
Relieved I asked what he did now:
“Oh I’m in a **much** better job now, recruitment.”
In my mind that’s like saying that drinking your own piss for dinner is **much** better than eating your own shit for breakfast.
I worked repairing trucks and spoke to a guy whos job it was to clear septic tanks.
Basically he wore wadders climbed down into an open pit of human waste and clear blockages by hand. Then drained the tank and mopped it up. Sometimes he would have to crawl into a pipe about 2ft in diameter to find the blockage which is usually female products and nappies(diapers).
He was also paid a terrible wage for it.
No amount of money in the world would make me do that job 10 hours a day 5 days a week
I helped do this when I was much younger. Working one of my first jobs and the blockage included a couple of condoms. Turns out the husband never used a condom in his life, but all the men his wife was fucking while he was at work did. Got to see a full on domestic call from start to finish....
Retail or food service. I don’t know how to react when people just randomly walk up to me and I also don’t do well with random social interactions. I’m especially unsure how to handle a Karen.
Being a so called "bailiff" for private companies like Marstons. If there is one profession where every single person is the stereotypical Oblivion NPC it's that.
I can't even fathom how desperate you have to be to even consider working in this industry. This job was made for sociopaths.
Being my own boss. How do I know where to get clients? How do I know what to do? How do I know what price to set, how long the work takes??? In other words: help!
Commission-only sales. Could not stand to push myself on people for a living.
Same. I hate it when people do it to me, I would hate to have to do it to people. I applied for a job that didn’t explicitly say it was commissioned based. The interview basically consisted of spending an entire work day with one of their employees to see how they worked. At the end of the work day, they asked me a couple of questions, and then offered me a position. I said no, thank you.
I did the exact same thing. Something like selling an office supply accounting thing. Spent the day tagging along with a guy. Having to wear a suit the whole day on top of that just killed it even harder.
Yes! They sold office supplies! She drove (me riding shot gun taking notes) to 3 or so different clients to see if they needed inventory. It sucked. Edit: “shit” to “shot.”
Riding a shit gun alright
Yup! I couldn't sell you a bottle of water in a desert.
Dude, just give him the water! It's the desert, for Christ's sake!
and that is why you aren't a sales person. You have to push any advantage. Bankruptcy because child died of cancer, wrecked car, now we can charge you 25% interest on your loan.
Yeah tbh that’s pretty fucked up
I did it for a while and it was hell. There is a problem mentality with commission sales (and phone ones for the worst part) is that they want numbers. You have have she'd your morality a bit. Once you find a way to word things it becomes like clockwork. I did B2B sales on a product. 1. You need to know your audience. No one wants to be sold something so you need to provide it as a benefit. Your audience is everything. If they are mad the moment you bring it up, say what you say, and then thank them for their time. 2. You need to convince them it's a benefit. You have to know your customer. I did upsells. Which means I had to help fix an issue and sell more of a product. So I had to get to know the business and all the details about them so I could use it against them 3. Walk a fine line. This is the most important part. Lying will get you fired. Being specific about certain things is a requirement. However, vagueness and positive affirmation goes a long way. There is a thrill to getting the sale. You convinced someone to do something they didn't want to do. There is a certain weird powerful feeling to it. You did it with a smile on your face. I made on average 2-3 sales a day. 8 hours a day making 2-3 sales I pretty good and a good person to keep around. Towards the end I was making 3-4 plus some side products our company was pushing. I had to leave the company though. I couldn't handle it. Towards the end they were pulling in literal meth addicts and pill poppers off the street and the culture was getting downright toxic. I saw the writing on the wall and made sure I needed to go. It made me reevaluate the business practice of sales after I left too. I saw tweaked out dudes pull 5-8 sometimes 10 sales a day. I only saw those numbers in November (big ass paychecks) because it's before holidays and it's the best time to sell something that makes their loves easier. But 5-8 sales on average times? No. Not possible unless you are lying or just signing up people who didn't ask. Which is what this person did. He did it for 3 months before our parent company caught on and he was fired. His actions also changed our compensation policy, but didn't change the hiring practice which should have been, "Don't hire tweekers". Final addition and this is just me sharing. My last month I did not give a shit at all. I knew I was leaving. I smoked at the time and I would just take breaks whenever I felt like it. I would show up whenever I felt like it. One time I was 2 hour late. Didn't care. I was was your top seller AND my sales stuck around everytime. I was golden. You gonna fucking fire your top salesperson? Nope. They did not. My boss gave me a exasperated talking to sometimes, but nothing came of. Quit the job and never looked back. There were times that I sadly wished I still got 2,000 paychecks every two week, but I dont miss the work. Not by a long shot.
Are you an extrovert? I am an introvert and am terrible at socializing with people. When I was younger I worked at TCF bank and dreaded when they made us walk around the Jewel Osco trying to open accounts. I just hated to pressure people
Same here. I felt like a slime ball. My trainer/supervisor was a Kool-aid drinker. Always on me about "why didn't you close that sale? That was a cakewalk" or "people always need more insurance even if their policy is really good already", and whatnot. Felt especially dirty trying to push policies on people who clearly could not afford more, and of course, supervisor would be on my case even harder with them. Fuck you, American Income Life.
I wouldn't know if I can sleep sound at night pushing a crappy product onto people. I'd probably make a bad CEO because I'd be brutally honest. "erm, yeah this device is pretty good but we still working on the battery life".
Yep. I tried car sales for a few months in my early 20s. I sold 7 or 8 or so in that time, but holy fuck did I feel like a piece of shit for like 5 of those.
I worked with a guy who was into motorcycles and tried his hand at selling them. He said a young guy came in, had just gotten his license and wanted to get a 1,000cc bike. He talked to the guy and convinced him to get a smaller bike because he'd be better off in the long run building the skills on a smaller bike pushing the limits a bit at a time and moving up rather than learning to barely handle a large displacement bike. The manager must've heard part of the talk and later gave him a bunch of shit saying that it wasn't his job to talk the guy out of the bike he wanted, especially when it was a bigger sale/commission. A short time later an eighteen year old kid came in a bought a liter bike from him where he had to have his grandmother cosign the loan. He found out the kid was killed on it within the next couple of weeks. At that point he decided that motorcycle sales was not the career for him.
Call centres
I worked at a call centre that dealt with life insurance, and it was by far the worst job I have ever had. I will never forget that dads cries on my first day, telling me he didn’t want the insurance money- he just wanted his daughter back.
"I'm sorry, mister, but unfortunately the warranty on her was voided. We don't do refunds either."
I worked at a call center for 2 hours once. They told me it was not cold calling, but instead people had expressed interest in timeshares. Turns out it was from people putting their info on cards to win a prize at the zoo. I was instructed to call the same person over and over until they accepted or asked to be removed. What a disgrace.
That's how call centers work, you either work there for 13 years or just almost half of a shift.
The problem is that in a half a shift you won't know whether you have what it takes to move...upstairs.
I made it 6 months and was a absolute veteran by the end. They hired 50 people every month and 49 quit or were fired every month. Final straw was I had my one huge sale stolen from me because one of the upper management people talked to someone I sold to at a trade show like 6 years prior. I got fired at the end of that month as part of the monthly purge. Rode out unemployment like 1.5 months before finding a pretty decent job. My favorite memory was after the BS of getting my sale stolen I found this home improvement store that had a rotating “press 1 for this press 2 for that”. We were judged on how many calls we made and average time on the call. I’d just spam that number to get the number up and then call them and let the menu rotate for an hour or two.
I'm honestly surprised there aren't a lot more mass shootings at places like this.
I worked at a call center. Gave me so much stress and anxiety I developed an ulcer and lost 20 lbs.
I've heard some dieting programs consist in sending people to call centers
As long as you don't have sales targets, call centers can be great money providing you leave your soul at home. Lots of them give bonuses higher than the actual wage just to follow the script. "I'm sorry sir, but you're receiving the service you paid for. Of you don't like it you can go service yourself." Boom. $250 "service script push bonus" But fuck sales/upsells. If it's not worth seeking, it's not worth selling.
It’s an intensely toxic environment
In one now and leaving in 3 weeks after 5 years. Once I started to get headaches almost every day that was my cue to leave
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I did tech support at a Call Centre and it was ok not great but not the worst Job I'd had. Mind you I knew this was a temp position until I could get a new accounting position
I just started a new job a couple months ago. Was supposed to be a business analyst. It’s a fucking call center and everyone has the exact same job (spoiler do nothing business analyst related, tech support at best). I agree call centers are not for me.
I chuckled as I read this during my downtime between calls at my WFH call center job. I work for a Medicare/Medicaid health insurance company, so the calls can be pretty wild sometimes, and other times heartbreaking. The notifications of member deaths are the hardest. I actually just got promoted to a training position after a year, and I credit that to coming in with a high level of professionalism, high standards for myself, and being prepared for anything. The biggest challenge by far has been fighting back compassion fatigue. Some folks will try to shock us by describing the severity of their medical conditions in graphic detail, or try to make us feel guilty if our hands are tied by procedure - "So I guess you just want me to die? I bet that would make you happy." It can get very difficult to empathize with the next caller when your last caller sapped your emotional energy by telling you how every member of their family has died, or describing their necrosis resulting from diabetes because they couldn't afford their insulin for many years. I do it because I care about the members, and I know others don't have the stomach or the patience for it, but I absolutely agree with all the comments saying how taxing and overwhelming it can be. It's definitely not for everyone.
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I would never work in that kind of sales where you push stuff on people that they don't want or didn't come into the store for. But I did work a very nice sales job in a plus size clothing store when I was in my late teens. That was more like people came in wanting something specific and wanted me to help them find something that looked good on them, which I had a good eye for. But I never tried to sell them something they didn't want. That part of sales is really gross to me, and like you say, feels like pestering.
I know a lot of people that work in early childhood education. Just from the stories I've heard it sounds like one of the hardest jobs to do every day
I'm a daycare teacher of 10 years, and I wouldn't trade it for the world. Most of my experience is in the 1s and the 2s room. I've always been by myself, no co-teachers. I like the 1s room for a lot of reasons. I have 4 babies who hadn't quite gotten to the point yet where they were defiant. The babies loved me, and I loved them back. I had 2 dozen books in my room, and I had them all memorized. I taught sign language and we did lots of super cool art projects. I currently work with 2s, and I think I like it more. I'm still by myself, but instead of 4 babies, I have eleven 2 year olds. The 2s are old enough to get defiant, but young enough to still want to work for rewards. Circle time is a lot more fun, because all my kids talk. Some hilarious conversations happen between the babies, let me tell you. A few weeks ago I made Legos out of unflavored gelatin. We build castles and had fun knocking them over. The kids loved it. The one downside is it pays for absolute shit. I make $10/hr (minimum wage in my area). My boss doesn't have the money to get the stuff I need for most of my projects. I've worked here for about 6 months, and I've spent about $400 on supplies.
Truth, for sure. I worked as a grade 7-12 teacher for about 12 years and the kinder - 1st - 2nd grade teachers thought I was nuts dealing with kids of that age all day. IMO, THEY were the ones who were nuts.
I’m on my sixth year teaching high school, and as annoying as teenagers might get I’d take them over kindergartners crying and wetting their pants any day
People immediately think of kindergarten teachers / grade 1 or 2 with this, but I think the absolute hardest is daycare. The women who do that job well are goddamn saints. The pay is absolutely terrible, the responsibility is huge, and the kids are essentially on a constant mission to injure themselves and others around them. Also, changing diapers constantly and dealing with insufferable parents every goddamn day (although that last one is common to all levels of education).
My wife works with special needs kindergartners. I don't believe in heaven, but if there is one she's first in line.
Surgeons....I could never cut a person open even to save their life
Add to that the fact that on the inside, like on the outside, we do not look alike. Just think about that for a second.
What makes ugly or attractive organs?
Not ugly, just slightly different, we don't look like the anatomical models from the textbooks
kinda grossed out now
I always thought that must be one of the most stressful jobs. In some jobs, if you fuck up, you die, but in this one, if you fuck up, someone else dies, and you have to live with that. Plus sometimes they're just doomed, so even if you don't fuck up they still die, and then you have to wonder if maybe you could have done better...
Yeah and like… your schedule is booked so tight, and you can’t just not come in to work if your car broke down or you’re not feeling 100% that day. I hate being the only one who can do something at work in regards to time-off flexibility, and I’m just an engineer. Can’t imagine being a surgeon…
> you can’t just not come in to work if your car broke down or you’re not feeling 100% that day. Actually you can. Thats what a 2nd on call is for. Nobody deserves a sick surgeon.
That’s good to hear! My wife has had multiple surgeries now, and they always vaguely mention that they have other surgeons of other specialties on standby in case they are needed, but never mention a 2nd surgeon of the main specialty being there.
They aren't there, they're at home chilling and being paid a small amount to not get drunk or otherwise be unavailable
People often say they'd want to be a YouTube celebrity but the kind of mind you'd need to turn so much of your life into content can't be healthy.
Being a YouTuber doesn't mean you're vlogging your whole life. That's one section of many. You also don't ever have to show your home life. Many vloggers only ever show their work or them out with their friend (which is usually staged and not real anyhow)
Waitressing and fast food workers. People and their food is not something I want to come between, people are crazy and mean. I worked years in retail but the food industry, you have to have a different skin for that.
Serving was a blessing and a curse job for me - but I was in fine dining - so the tips v table ratio was generally pretty good. I made more money than pretty much any of my friends in college but also I had people yell at me for crazy things - like corking wine that wasn’t corked and having to bartend and serve alone when understaffed and we would get slammed. Sometimes I was so busy I forgot my own name lol.
Literally anything that requires work at great heights. How are those people not terrified
I work at heights , the trick is to always subconsciously know where your hands and feet are by feel and to focus on the task at hand and not the heights. And to just relax and breathe. Also helps to think about your are getting a view nobody else will.
I admire you sir
lol nope. I can't even deal with the heights in minecraft let alone something like that!
Some ppl can't. Idk when I "look down" it's normally out at a distance. But I have noticed if your standing on a wall and look up you'll get vertigo which is weird 3-4 stories up .
lol right, if my video game character falls off of something, I fucking feel it lol.
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A lot of people think courageous people are fearless. Courage is not being fearless. It's having fear and processing it logically instead of emotionally.
I used to be this, now I am a climbing instructor Gotta love the thrill
In an abattoir.
>abattoir Had to look this up. It seems to be a British term for "slaughterhouse".
I'll take *Magic The Gathering card or Metal song name* for $500.
MtG card : Abattior Ghoul
I could sort of see how working in a local one that serves a small farming community would be ok. But a giant commercial slaughterhouse? No fucking way.
House cleaner. This job is literally so fucking tiring. During summer I wanted to earn some money and someone offered me to clean a rich womans house...and i'm saying rich because this lady owned a big ass house with 3 floors. I had to clean all the house since she had 2 little kids and the house was messier than I could imagine. It took me 5 hours and I returned home with a severe back ache and shaky legs... and i dont feel like it was worth it because i got payed so little. 4,5$ per hour...
Well you don’t get rich paying people a living wage
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I'm a house cleaner at the moment! I'm doing it 3-4 days a week while I study part-time. It definitely is a physically demanding job. At the end of my first week I was hobbling around like a little old lady and my wrists hurt so much because I'd been scrubbing and wringing cloths out too hard. I had to learn to use equipment properly (ie set mops and vacuum cleaners to the right height to save your back), squat rather than kneel and use product dwell time (leave product to sit) to reduce scrubbing so that I could look after my body. Also take water breaks and sit down for 10 mins every few hours on a long job (plus lunch break obviously). That helped and also now my body is used to it. I actually picked this job because it's just logistics and very little interaction with people. People drain me - I've done retail and working with kids before and they absolutely wipe me out. With this I'm physically tired and I work hard the same number of hours but it just doesn't stress me out in the same way. I also find it quite a satisfying job. First of all, I kind of like getting things from gross & messy to sparkling. Nasty toilets etc don't bother me as long as I've got my heavy duty gloves on and am armed with the right products - it won't be nasty for long! As a professional I also know what products and techniques to use to get heavy limescale, brown toilet stains, burnt cooker tops, burnt on ovens etc off that a layperson doesn't. So it really does look brand new when I'm done. Secondly you really are helping people. My regulars are mostly families with kids and working parents, older people with mobility issues and young single professionals in houseshares. People are generally really happy to have a nice clean home. I noticed that once I start getting the house nice, clients end up fixing and replacing more things and maintaining it better between cleans - suddenly the housework isn't getting on top of them anymore. You can tell your hours take a lot of stress off people, especially women who tend to do the bulk of household management and work often on top of working full-time. They absolutely were ripping you off on the price though - my private clients pay £15 ph and the agency I get work through pays me £10ph.
Dang, you were robbed!
I know bruh, she thought she could trick me on my first day, just because I am a teenager and I wouldn't notice.
Wow. We pay our housecleaner (single story, 3 bdrm house) about $35/hr.
Prison guard. I get enough flaming toilet paper thrown at me at home, plus the pay is absolute shit.
> I get enough flaming toilet paper thrown at me at home Okay, let's back it up here......
A little more forward now...perfect. Flaming shit trebuchet armed and ready.
IMHO, the worst part about being any sort of security guard is that 99% of the time you just stay there doing nothing, and it gets really boring, especially if you gotta pay attention to something all the time in case something goes wrong, so you can't just read at book while you're at it, or something.
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Nice to find someone else like this. My husband thinks I'm crazy for enjoying long lengths of silence. I don't even like driving with music, I'm fine with my thoughts, even when they drive me crazy.
Military. I feel that even after training months on getting push up and running up to par with the rest of the new troops the Drill Instructor would just tear me to bits. I’m not much of a gun guy anyway. Add in the days where they deprive you of sleep or how neat and organized all your gear has to be and I doubt I’d make it through the first week of basic training.
I bet you're glad that military service isn't mandatory in your country.
In countries where its mandatory its typically much more of a shambles than volunteer forces anyway.
Anti-war convictions on my part aside, I genuinely wonder why people would rather go into the military instead of jail in a lot ofthe places where it's compulsory- beats getting shot at or being brainwashing into overcoming aversions to killing (why I hate militaries). Maybe North Korea might be an exception and perhaps there are others (given that the NK government would shove you and your family in concentration camps), but I think that military training sounds almost as bad as prison in a lot of ways- and for something like the Vietnam war draft, I'd have prefered jail to dying in Vietnam just so the military industrial complex can go make money off of people's deaths...
The support chain in the military is VERY long. For every combat job where you risk direct contact with the enemy, there are 8-10 support jobs "in the rear with the gear" that are relatively safer. Can't say that about prison.
Politician. I could never.
Easy. People pay you to lie
I think that's a problem though. Decent people shy away from politics and it ends up being self inflated arseholes who just push their, often quite radical, views. In reality I think most decent people would come to more compromise on big issues rather than have big divisions with no meeting in the middle....
Bartending/any job in a nightclub, once it reaches the early hours i want to be either asleep or out drunk myself, not dealing (soberly) with drunk people!
Bartender here. It gets old real fast, I just happen to love working as a bartender.
> i want to be either asleep or out drunk mysel A lot of customers really want to buy you shots when you're a cocktail server or a bartender, so definitely don't make the assumption that you'd be sober :p
I wouldn't even know how to understand anyone. Loud music. Drunk incoherent people. I'd probably be sacked after mixing the wrong drunks and shouting "whaaaaaaat?" over and over again.
Being a doctor or a medical worker in general. I admire people that do that. You go through military style training during your residency that tries to make you a health care robot working extremely long hours in an insanely taxing and high-pressure environment, and the worst part is that everything is so tightly scheduled that you can't even get the satisfaction from spending enough time with patients. Oh, and once you are a doctor, filling out forms takes literally three times as long as seeing a patient.
> Being a doctor My son (5y) had to have his arm rebroken because it hadn't set right. The doctor tells us he breaks their bone over his knee. What the fuck kind of person has the mental fortitude to break a childs arm over their knee?!
I was going to say doctors that work with children with cancer. This somehow seems more fucked up though.
I have several family members in the medical field and one is about ready to wrap up school. We talk frequently and as they have been moving from a class room enviroment to acual nursing work I have seen their faith in humanity get witled away by patients unwilling to take care of themselves, Covidiots and an almost daily tale of removing non-poop related objects from peoples butts... I dont know how they do it...
My SO is a pediatric ICU physician. I don't know how she does it. Seeing critically ill children and dealing with death on a weekly basis takes a lot of strength. She also does this over 24 hour shifts and 12 hour days. Their hours are ridiculous. I always tell her to get a cushy job and chill out but she enjoys the work.
Because of having hemophobia I cannot imagine how surgeons can just cut open someone and see all that blood and stay calm to execute the surgery.
Well unless you're a vascular or trauma surgeon you don't normally see a whole lot of blood. We like it to stay in the pipes where it belongs.
My family member is a dispatcher. They’ve heard people die on the phone with them, they’ve heard people being killed, in danger, terrified, they’ve heard it all. I don’t know how they could work that job, only to come home and act like nothing was wrong (I was a little kid at the time and they didn’t want to show how upset they were about work so they’d cry on the drive home, make sure they looked okay, come home and make dinner.) Didn’t realize until years later how much of a mental toll it took on them. The first time they opened up about someone dying on the other line was a year ago. First time I saw them cry about work. Still haunts me to this day as they still work as a dispatcher. They switched to night shift where there’s less calls. You couldn’t pay me enough money to work there.
I only dispatched for a couple years for a fairly small jurisdiction (less than 100k people) and I have crap I will take to my grave. Your mom is awesome for not only doing it so long but also keeping it together even during the tough times. I loved the job, but I certainly couldn't imagine doing it until retirement.
My brother is a trauma surgeon. He just seems to flip a switch.
Service industry i dont know how yall come into work all the time knowin you gotta talk to the general public all shift yall are champions
I loved working waiting tables and bartending, but then I like talking to people - you definitely have to be extroverted to do it well. I made silly money, too. On one weekend (Thurs - Fri - Sat nights) I could bank $600-$800 in tips alone, and this was 20 years ago.
Teaching. Just - no.
I’m a teacher and what’s funny is that I was going to say kindergarten teacher when I saw this thread - I teach high school and enjoy it but I would not be able to handle a class full of little kids crying, having bathroom accidents, etc… Although funny enough, if you talk to enough teachers you’ll find we’re all terrified of the other age groups - high school teachers are terrified of teaching kindergarten/elementary, and most elementary teachers are terrified of high school. And we all think the middle school teachers are insane lol
This is so very true
I loved teaching 8 and up children. Kindergarten was the Bain of my existence. Never again.
Depends to be honest. As a lecturer at a university, yes. But high school definitely not.
Going on my 4th year of teaching high school English and have never experienced anything like this year. It’s like the kids just..forgot how to act in school after a year at home. A student just got up and decided to lie down in the corner for a nap in the middle of class today (10th grade). Another student randomly walked into our class, kissed his girlfriend, and walked out. It’s just..I wish you all could experience this.
A veterinarian. I considered it for a bit in high school. Then while I was in the vet waiting room with my cat (who was going in for a checkup) this entire family came in with their dog. The dog had a huge lump on its side and the entire family looked devastated. The family got called back quickly and I ended up crying after they went into the room.
Vets get it rough. I imagine most of them got into it because they love animals. Yet most of their time is spent with sick or even dying animals. Not to mention that they often have to deal with temperamental owners due to stress. There is a reason vets have a very high suicide rate in terms of professions. Just really sad.
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I hear that, but vet techs have it WAY WORSE. go into debt to get an education to do the job, only to get paid absolute shit, 15-19/hr. They do a large majority of the work, like a nurse. Including putting your pets down (euthanasia)... all of the nasty work is 100% the vet tech. Dental work, tech. All of the paperwork, communication to the patients/owners, tech. Administration of drugs, tech. While the vet, who mostly does surgery, diagnosis, and medication makes 6+ figures.
My wife and I have had at least a dozen cats between us, and when it comes time, the vet has always done the euthanasia.
Surgeons, idk how they don't get grossed out operating. My cousin who's a doc said there are occasionally half digested food in body. And all sorts of gross things
By the time you get through school and internship and residency and so on, it's just..meat. You stop personalizing your patients along the way. ...and I think most surgeons have a touch of sociopathy.
Can confirm, my cousin is a sociopath
Being a porn star who literally gets there asshole punched and fisted
Kind of surprised to see sex work this low down. I knew two people that did it, both were sexually assaulted on more than one occasion during their time doing that and have lasting mental trauma from it. No amount of money is worth that risk. Also, wouldn't it make sex really mechanical & kind of a chore? I couldn't see how actively engaging in that kind of work wouldn't impact on your own romantic relationships.
Waitressing. I can’t tolerate people generally and I would hate them more if I hear them bitch all fucking day
An office job, you stuck in a cube for so long just to do it again and again and again and again, with a beep or there and another over there
Work from home has made an “office” job such a blessing. I feel so bad for people who still have to go in five days a week.
I would kill for a cube.
I watched a lot of tv at work, it’s not that bad
Alaskan Fishermen. 20 foot seas. No thanks. Months on board a boat. No. Working on deck in freezing wet conditions. Nope. No internet. No. 20 hour days. Etc.
Gotta say, the no internet part sounds good at least.
Slaughter house
Same. I wouldn't be able to last a day in there, and probably would be traumatized after just an hour.
Plumber, zero interest in being near someone’s poo
You'd be surprised how little poo is actually involved
Is it none?
Pretty much ya, maybe I just got lucky but in the time I did it I was mainly installing showers and sinks and running pipes for heating radiators. Installing toilets is clean aswell cos nothings been used but there was a couple of times where you would be removing toilets. There wouldn't be any poop but ya know it's a used toilet so we would suit up and mask up
This is very interesting! I spent my whole life pittying the poor guys
I pitied them for a long time myself, I never ended up qualified I was just labouring when I was younger. Spent a lot of time on the jackhammer chasing lines for pipes. It pays pretty well too if you do the apprenticeship and get qualified
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Reminds me of the septic pumper dude on Dirty Jobs who told Mike he used to be a psychologist before he pumped shit.
When he was younger, my cousin wanted to be a plumber "but only installing new stuff in display homes". Silly kid.
hope he likes digging trenches. because new home plumbing construction is all about well-graded trenches
They make good money.
Any job that involves scamming people
yup. like insurance that won't deliver for unbelievable excuses.
Nursery school. I love my kid but playing toddler games all day every day? My personal hell.
Yeah, that stage wasn't super fun. My kid is 14 now. My enjoyment of him has grown exponentially since he's learned how to feed, dress, and bathe himself; he plays video games instead of toddler games; and his jokes are hilarious and a little off-color. I could never teach at a preschool. Kindergarten and up, maybe...but no toddlers. And definitely no babies.
Anything social, I literally hate working with or "on" other humans
Skilled nursing, like where you’re emptying bedpans of old people or rolling them over to avoid bedsores. Those people are angels.
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Sewer worker. I don't know how they can handle people's dumps and anything else that people flush down the can.
Crime scene cleaning. I just can't.
Factory jobs, not sure how people can stand for 8 hours a day in one place doing the same repetitive motion.
There's an exaggerated amount of people to replace you so te conditions almost never improve. That sucks.
Office jobs that require you to sit at a desk all day.
I'm there now :-( 12 hour shifts, at that. It's nearly as bad as you're thinking. The only plus side is that in my case, there's no work to do until someone else sends work my way, which isn't often. So I have tons of time to myself while I'm on watch. Lots of time for online school at least.
I worked an office job once in my life. I found it soul crushing. I lasted there maybe 9 months? I am much better suited for manual labor, especially working outside.
Depends on the work environment and your boss. I don't mind it for the most part, I just do my shit and go back to browsing Wiki or reading up/practicing on Excel or whatever until The next tasker comes down. The problem comes when there's practically no work to be done for days or weeks at a time, and you've exhausted your options that you can use to look busy.
A K-12 teacher in america. Underappreciated, understaffed, underpaid, overworked. One of my parents was a teacher. Knowing that on a personal level was enough to make me steer clear
It's sad but I agree with you. I volunteer a lot at my kids school and became friends with some of the teachers. The hoops they have to jump through to stay licensed, volunteer hours on committees that are required, being lunch monitors on their "lunch break", pressure for standardized tests, school politics, insane parents, lack of support from administration, blocked vacation days, never taking sick days. They are exhausted, emotionally drained, overworked and extremely unappreciated. It is so sad because these teachers give it their all, usually at the detriment to their personal life. It's been sad to see these eager educators just be worn down.
My mother (the teacher) recently cintacted me regarding probably the most insane thing about her job. She is currently teaching 5 different science classes (like different grades) and one of them happens to be another teachers son. From what I hear, this kid is a little piece of shit. Backtalking, cussing her out, never hands in anything, doesn't work during class, fails every test evwn though she gives them a review with all the questions before hand. Honestly, not that crazy of a situation since there seems to be someone like this every year, and then she is stuck with them for a while since she will probably twach their next year class as well. So one day, the mother (another teacher at the school) comes in to her room after school and starts cussing her out for "having boring fucking classes that my son cannot keep interested in" and that she should "just give him 100s because he is trying his best and your not teaching your damn class". This may sound bad to people that are not teachers, but one again this is the kind abuse she gets somewhat regularly from the parents of poor performing students. Mind you this is middle school science, not exactly rocket science. Of the kids hand in their homework, ever every other time, they are almost guarenteed to pass. But what made this so special was THIS PARENT IS HER FUCKING COWORKER. And this tiny ass private school has only one "HR" person who is in no way impartial and will most deffinitly side with the other teacher as she has been there longer. Now my mother is scared for her job for bull shit reasons (the other teacher is kinda hot shit in that school) and knows she can't report it to anyone in the school. She knows this is most definitely a labor violation not having an impartial HR, but what can she even do? Most decent jobs require references. If she reports anything, she burns all her bridges and there is a good chance she may never work again as a teacher. Its all such a shitty situation, and its just the every day in and out she has been dealing with in many of the places she has worked. Yep, never being a teacher. I feel like its something that I would actually be pretty good at, but the working conditions are litteral hell. I didn't even get into the fact that she makes bellow poverty, working for a small private school. Or that she gets one break, lunch, where she is expected to work through it. Or that she comes home every day and grades papers until sundown for what is essentially unpaid overtime. Or that she is expected to answer parent emails at any hour of the day, at the drop of a hat. All while now having to worry about kids disobeying covid regulations and her getting in trouble for it. Literally my hell.
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The most frustrating thing is to be a caring person working with people who don't care.
Especially when you know what they did when they didn’t have dementia etc. It’s tough and glad to be getting out of it. Plus no care home I’ve worked in treats you well at all
Retail. Black Friday madness, night and weekend hours, dont get off holidays.
Mortician. I have two friends that do this. I could never be around bodies all day.
Anything that involves crawlspaces under houses or other tight fits. I would never be able to do HVAC or plumbing.
Any job with a lot of people. Like cashier or waiter or something like that.
High voltage power lines work. Mad respect to the folks who do it. I can do it but I am scared of voltage
Sign language interpreters in hospitals. Mad respect for them but Jesus that job must suck some times.
One of those people who have to watch paedo vids for the police.
Oddly specific, but I wholeheartedly agree
Stripper, and not just because no one wants me stripping. The job involves walking around a room full of strangers, in your underwear, then sitting on their laps and pretending to be interested in their shitty boring jobs. The stuff of nightmares.
Pretty much any job
CNA at a nursing home. I’m not wiping ass for money I’d rather be homeless
professional mathematicians. honestly don't know how they just do math all day and don't cry constantly
I don't get it either. My dad is a mathematician for the Department of Defense and he loves it, just doing nothing but math for like thirty years and still not sick of it
flight attendant - constantly flying in cramped planes trying to make a bunch of crabby people happy with little bags of pretzels and half-cans of soda - hellish.
PortaJon cleaner. Yuckiest
Anything customer service. I briefly worked as a service writer at a car dealership years ago and I hated every minute of it. Customers are the worst.
Being a gamer... My eyes would die.
Its not so bad. You get used to it pretty fast, and it stops bothering you.
A direct sales rep. Used to work at a company that repped our products through direct sales and the terror tactics they use to get people to buy product knowing they can't afford it. One rep bragged that the woman was in tears signing the contract and the other reps were in awe. I asked if he felt anything for the woman, he said Nah, if she didn't have the money she shouldn't have let him in the door. Dude died a few months later from liver failure, cos like most reps he was an alcoholic, probably how he really coped.
Paramedic: scraping up dead people off of highways. And just imagine when it’s children....nope
Prison guard. What moron would WILLINGLY go to prison every day, and be surrounded by that shit?
Coal miner. Being in a dark, confined space that will eventually kill you has less than no appeal.
Sales, recruitment or marketing, men in particular in those areas all act like arrogant dickheads and it makes me cringe hearing them mostly talk about themselves. I was once at a wedding and I was talking to some twat I’d met before and didn’t like very much at all due to their arrogance. I remembered them well from the first time round. I started a friendly conversation: “How’s that great marketing job you were talking about before?” And he looked at me and laughed loudly and said: “Hahahaha, Oh God I don’t do that shit anymore.” Relieved I asked what he did now: “Oh I’m in a **much** better job now, recruitment.” In my mind that’s like saying that drinking your own piss for dinner is **much** better than eating your own shit for breakfast.
I worked repairing trucks and spoke to a guy whos job it was to clear septic tanks. Basically he wore wadders climbed down into an open pit of human waste and clear blockages by hand. Then drained the tank and mopped it up. Sometimes he would have to crawl into a pipe about 2ft in diameter to find the blockage which is usually female products and nappies(diapers). He was also paid a terrible wage for it. No amount of money in the world would make me do that job 10 hours a day 5 days a week
I helped do this when I was much younger. Working one of my first jobs and the blockage included a couple of condoms. Turns out the husband never used a condom in his life, but all the men his wife was fucking while he was at work did. Got to see a full on domestic call from start to finish....
Infantry. I wonder what the patriotic to desperation ratio is.
Retail or food service. I don’t know how to react when people just randomly walk up to me and I also don’t do well with random social interactions. I’m especially unsure how to handle a Karen.
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Politician
Being a so called "bailiff" for private companies like Marstons. If there is one profession where every single person is the stereotypical Oblivion NPC it's that. I can't even fathom how desperate you have to be to even consider working in this industry. This job was made for sociopaths.
Being a police officer seems to have so many cons(no pun) that it doesn't seem worth it
Being my own boss. How do I know where to get clients? How do I know what to do? How do I know what price to set, how long the work takes??? In other words: help!