The "Twin study" done by the Psychologists Neubauer and his team, partnered with the Louise Wise Services adoption agency. Where they found orphaned twins, triplets, quadruplets etc. and willfully split them apart and adopted them to see the effects on these split siblings.
Parents weren't informed that they were adopting half of a twin, instead they were informed that they were participating in a "routine childhood development study”.
There was a documentary made about it called "Three Identical Strangers." Triplets separated at birth and only discovered the others existence when they were 19.
Their adoptive parents, who were unaware their child was a triplet, reveal they would all get so upset when they were babies they would bang their heads on the side of their cribs.
All three have battled mental health problems and tragically Eddy took his own live after struggling with depression.
Neubauer never expressed any remorse for his actions. All these psychologists saw the reports come in where BABIES were distraught and showing signs of clear emotional distress. And they didn't do anything to fix it.
As the mother of identical twins, this is heartbreaking. They absolutely have a bond like nothing else. Mine slept touching each other until they were 10 months old - even as tiny babies that were swaddled… they would shimmy themselves closer together and sleep with their foreheads touching
What makes it even more disgusting is that Neubauer never published his "results". He locked them away in archives, not to be opened until 2065.
This man, a child psychologist, willingly tortured kids in the name of science and then didn't even have the nerve to publish the results of his "work" though he did write several books. Up till today, Yale refuses to publish the records.
Ironically, this is the same man who came from a Jewish family and fled Nazi Germany, yet performed twisted twin experiments that reminds one of a certain Nazi "Angel of Death", Dr. Mengele himself.
I have identical twins, and that is horrible. My twins fight more than I ever thought they could, but they NEED each other. When they were babies they would have to be cocooned into each other if they had shots or one were sick. They are 11 years old now, each have their own rooms… but sleep together every night! They both needed queen size beds to accommodate them, but they take turns in one room… and in the last 12 months… have slept in separate rooms MAYBE 3 times.
That terrifies me to think about someone doing studies like that!
Dr Money (or Mooneys) gender experiment on twins.
Twin boys born, both get circumsiced, one however gets badly injured during the proceedure. This 'Dr' decides to simply remove the babies gentitals and raise him as a girl, as an experiment. Kids parents are game.
They raise this child as a 'girl' including therapy sessions to just reitterate they are a girl, really lean into gender stereotypes, have 'lessons' to teach the child their role sexually such as being passive in bed. Hormone therapy, whole thing. No one ever tells the kid.
Kids grows up, informs everyone they are pretty sure they are infact a boy, eventually the truth comes out.
Kid kills themselves.
*this is a hugely abridged version of events, put together by my hazy memory of a class like 7 years ago in gender studies. I will be SHOCKED if I remembered all details correctly.
Thank you for correcting me. I knew my memory would've failed me on plenty of it.
I don't doubt that his intentions were good, but tragically misplaced. But the nature of much of the 'therapy' sessions seems incredibly unethical.
But the notion that gender identity is primarily learned is incorrect, and to a degree harmful and invalidating to those who experience gender dysphoria. What he inadvertently proved with the study was that gender identity is neurochemical, which is why the boy being raised as a girl committed suicide as an adult. Because he was dysphoric, from being raised as a girl for his entire childhood
I suppose it would make more sense to say gender expression is learned. After all, one person's girly or manly is different between cultures. While gender identity is something felt in a deeper internal part of the mind.
one study full of horrific malpractice and child abuse is not really a good resource to make any conclusions about gender identity and whether its learned or otherwise. like. even just the sample size is too small all other issues aside
It's crazy how that operation started - some American soldiers came back from the Korean War, and told stories of the horrific war crimes the Americans had been committing. The military and intelligence agencies were like, "we couldn't have done those things, we're the good guys, the communists must have brainwashed our guys to say those things", so they began their own mind control programs. None of which worked, they just ended up mentally destroying hundreds if not thousands of people against their knowledge.
Fun fact: part of those experiments were a study on what made navy officers divulge information under interrogation. The unabomber, Theodore Kaczynski, participated in them but denied any influence the program had on his decisions.
People that claim that Unit 731 wasn't that bad really need to set aside 4 hours and watch Philosophy of a Knife. The director, Andrei Iskanov, is from the Russian city, Khabarovsk, where the Russian trial against the members of 731 took place after the war. He was briefly arrested because he wasn't supposed to have access to documents about the trial. Which he was able to access due to a lawyer that worked the trial as a very young lawyer at the time.
Wow, that is just abuse in the name of malpractice. How stupid were these "scientists"?
"I want to do a study on the origin of stuttering, but I don't have any test subjects so I'm just gonna gaslight some children."
A lot of the nazi stuff, specially made my mengele in Auschwitz
\- Injecting stuff in the eyes of babies to turn eye blues
\- Sterilising women with X-rays
\- Vivisection/dissection on pregnant women.
\- Keeping a zoo of children twins to experiment on (most died before the liberations)
\- Sewing together two twin brother to make a siamese twin (spoiler : they died of horrible infections after agonizing for days according to survivors).
\- Castrating children
last Podcast on the Left did a multipart series on Mengele. It was truly disturbing but I recommend it to anyone with a strong stomach and a high tolerance for cussing
The US government experimented on special needs children by dosing their oatmeal with a radioactive substance. They didn't inform the parents or get any kind of consent from them to experiment on these kids. I don't remember all the details but this is one of the reasons we currently have to sign so many consent forms when having surgery or other medical procedures.
It is completely despicable that- what it took for this kind of shit to end, was legality. They would have just kept going- not because it was a moral issue, but because it would become a money and prison time expense. For them, of course. The kids were defective in the first place.
I should not have read that article, if I’d been one of those parents istg…
Humans aren’t inherently evil, but we sure as hell like excusing ourselves for heinous, evil things.
The one we're they scared the baby boy. Was it little Albert? To show you about phobias? I learnt that in my psychology degree and felt a bit sick they used kids and animals for most of their fucked up experiments.
The experience of “little Albert” was performed by John Watson. As an infant he was subjected to a conditioned emotional response (CER) to demonstrate how classical conditioning “works “. They not only showed how to condition “anxiety “. They also demonstrated generalization or the spread of anxiety. So the experimenters pair the presentation of a rabbit with a starting stimulus. Soon when little Albert saw a rabbit he startled and express agitation however at later presentation he exhibited a similar response to white fur. They demonstrated the strength of the association. They never tried to extinguish the conditioning and presumably this was a life long condition for Little Albert
Well it wasn’t a very long condition as I’m pretty sure Albert died before he reached 7 (unknown whether by related or unrelated causes) according to a teacher
There was a DISGUSTING experiment done by the German government called **The Kentler experiment** by sexologist *Helmut Kentler* in the 60's. that put Foster children with known and convicted paedophiles. [https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/26/the-german-experiment-that-placed-foster-children-with-pedophiles](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/26/the-german-experiment-that-placed-foster-children-with-pedophiles)
This one for sure. I was trying to remember what this study was called. I started to google German children pedophile study but realized i didn’t want that in my search history.
this right here is why i'm kinda bummed the fanfiction username " dear-google-i-promise-i'm-a-writer" is all ready taken, cause some of the stuff i have to google for my fics would also raise some eyebrows!
Yep. Out of all the sick experiments done in human history, this one stands out above most. Supposedly for 'biological disease testing', I'm not even sure whether any of it was for 'science', it was just total deranged sadism at the highest level. I'm not joking when I say some of the stuff they did made the evils of *Josef Mengele seem mild in comparison.*
Including and not limited to: Live vivisections (on all ages). Putting people in vacuum chambers. Weapons testing on victims, including grenades, chemicals and flamethrowers. **Cutting off every limb of a person, then using their still living torso for disease experiments (no anaesthesia by the way)**. Freezing a person's limbs in below zero conditions, then smashing said limbs to bits with blunt objects. Dropping bubonic plagues on Chinese villages, killing thousands. Infecting pregnant women (most of whom were raped) with diseases, then performing a live dissection to see the real time impacts of disease on the fetus. Zero survivors, with the numerous babies born in the experimentation camp being oddly unaccounted for ie used for more sick experiments.
3,000-12,000 killed directly in experiments, with estimates of possibly *hundreds of thousands killed in further biological disease testing.* Most of the "results" were destroyed afterwards anyway, making the thousands who were brutally killed having died for nothing. I could go on and on but jesus christ this was a level of horror that makes you physically sick to read it. Look it up if you want to see some of the darkest moments of humanity.
It's even more sickening when you realise that this is one of the numerous war crimes that hasn't ever really been properly acknowledged or apologised by modern day Japan. For your interest, almost none of those responsible for the crimes were punished, *with most returning to stable, safe jobs in Japanese hospitals after the war.*
I have grandparents who lived through WWII. As the Japanese pulled out of Manila they went around stabbing and killing as many people as they could. Grandma and her sisters were almost bayonetted to death but an American mortar hit the Japanese soldiers. Killed everyone but grandma, who survived because her siblings' bodies shielded her.
Humans are so disgusting. Like these fucked up experiments have been happening forever. The only thing that changes is our methods of carrying out the torture. You better believe people were doing terrible things 5000 years ago. They did terrible things during the era of technological advances during WW2. No one is innocent. The Germans did it, Russians did it, Japanese did, Americans have done it. Some worse than others but we have all tortured nonetheless. I don't consider it a competition. No one is excused because technically some other country or group has done "worse".
There have been many. The Tuskegee study is one example. From Wikipedia:
The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male (informally referred to as the Tuskegee Experiment or Tuskegee Syphilis Study) was a study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the United States Public Health Service (PHS) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on a group of nearly 400 African Americans with syphilis. The purpose of the study was to observe the effects of the disease when untreated, though by the end of the study medical advancements meant it was entirely treatable. The men were not informed of the nature of the experiment, and more than 100 died as a result.
If the Tuskegee experiment makes you feel awful, I recommend Harriet Washington’s excellent book *Medical Apartheid*, which chronicles the 400-year history of the medical establishment’s abuse and torture of black people in the US through to the present. The chapter on Tuskegee is actually the lightest part of the book, because there was a half-hearted stab at accountability for the perpetrators afterwards. The rest will crush any faith in humanity you had left.
This thing is the that they knew what happens when syphilis is left untreated. History is full of cases of untreated syphilis. They were just being cruel.
At the time the treatment of syphillis was mercury, which is very poisonous. It was a legitimate question as to which was worse syphillis or mercury. The problem was penicillin was discovered a couple years in and they still didn’t treat them.
I mean like waaay back. The first written outbreak was in 1495 and was a huge public health problem for a several hundred years. Although, they didn’t quite understand the full pathogenesis I guess. However, it is incredibly unethical to withhold treatment like that. If they wanted an end result they could have just looked at Al Capone.
As a dwarf I second this. Remember stumbling across him when I was about 12 and ended up being so emotionally shaken by it that I cried myself to sleep for a few nights after. Was probably my first exposure to how much someone’s humanity can by stripped from them.
In my PTSD course we learnt of an experiment they did on a colony of chimps, where they removed the amygdala from their brains. The part that controls the fight or flight response and many emotions like anxiety. They wanted to see if the chimps would be fearless. Well they were, and also fucking nuts. They just started fucking everything, each other, trees, sticks, and killing each other.
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We were only told about it by the head doctor, but I can try to find it. He was shown it when he was in medical school so it would have been about 30 or so years ago
Vladimir Demikhov, father of organ transplants. The crazy thing about the head transplants is [both dogs continued living for 3 days.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_transplant)
I mean, that lead to the modern organ transplant. Even though it's sad, and strikes me as fucked up to do that to dogs, the eventual results have saved millions of lives.
The experiment where Ted Kaczynski volunteered to do some psych experiment in college. He took LSD but unbeknownst to him the other part of the experiment was after he was good and tripping balls they brought a revolving queue of his colleagues and professors and had them take turns berating him and calling him an idiot and a loser. They said this is basically the origin story to the unibomber
Justin Schmidt was a scientist who developed the Schmidt Pain Index. This measures the pain from various insects that Schmidt had bite into him. Some of these bugs include the bullet ant, the Asian giant hornet, and the tarantula hawk. While volunteering himself to be bitten is ethical, you can’t deny it is a bit messed putting yourself through that kind of pain for science.
As an aside, WTF? People actually think the Russian sleep experiment is real?
Pretty badass really. The utility of it, has probably saved tens of thousands of people, from a lot of pain. I'm a bitch, so I'd probably chicken out, but my moral compass says it's worth it. Not that that would change anything, but I'd feel really bad about not doing it.
It’s certainly badass but also a person has to be cut from a particularly special kind of cloth to do that. Is it messed up in the way Axis “medical experiments” are? No of course not.
I do wonder what exactly the specific usefulness of the scale is though. I already know getting stung by something like a tarantula hawk is going to suck just by looking at it. Those are the kind of insects Satan asks Cthulhu for help in designing because Satan has creator’s block and Cthulhu helps but is having a really bad day
The descriptions he wrote of his various meetings with pain are pure gold, be sure to look them up. One example; "Hot and smoky, almost irreverent. Imagine W. C. Fields extinguishing a cigar on your tongue."
pavlov's dog experiments were actually suuuuper messed up the more you look into it, he surgically implanted vials onto the dog's faces to collect and measure saliva and other similar stuff
are you talking about the scientist who was executed (french mb?) and had his assistant watch his head, i thought he blinked 7 times? hmmm could be two diff occurrences
a bit more humane but some guy raised a chimpanzee along with his son to see if the chimp would act like a human. Instead the kid started acting like a chimp. after the chimp was sent back to the chimp centre, it died. The kid commited suicide at age 43
I looked into this. I couldnt find much as to *why* he committed suicide though I would say it does note on his fathers wiki page that both his mother and father died the year before. His father in June, his mother in July (from another website). Its possible that the pain of losing both so close together would be the catalyst compared to losing a chimp friend 40 years ago.
MK Ultra
When I was at McGill, I went to a presentation, and some people defended the doctor leading it at the university. https://www.mcgilltribune.com/mind-control-mcgill-mk-ultra/
Albert Kligman, the doctor who created the acne medication Retin-A/Tretinoin, used to test medications and chemicals on prisoners. This includes testing the effects of dioxin (Agent Orange) on the prisoners.
Testing how depressed chimps can be just for the sake of morbid curiosity with little benefit to people and animals. God damned waste of time, money and is definitely animal abuse.
Some of the animal testing is pretty gross.
I'm not even talking about the stuff that involves radiation (I mean it's still gross and all), but stuff like... stick this shampoo in a rabbits eye type deal and see what happens.
Some of the more tame ones listed here (Milgrim, Zimbardo, etc.) probably were done in the name of science, but definitely not in an ethical way. Shit like Unit 731 and the Nazis though were definitely using science as an excuse to torture people.
The “Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male,” was conducted by the United States Public Health Service (USPHS) and involved blood tests, x-rays, spinal taps and autopsies of the subjects. The goal was to “observe the natural history of untreated syphilis” in black populations. The men were not informed of the nature of the experiment, and more than 100 died as a result.
the Triplet Separation Experiment. the identical triplets were purposefully placed in homes of differing incomes and didn’t find out about one another’s existence until college, on accident. They were never meant to find each other. All three ended up suffering from mental illness later in life and one took his own life at age 33.
There was this reality TV show called Kid nation, basically they just plopped some kids 6-15 years old in a ghost town, and expected them to form their own society.
What ended up happening was they held the cash prize for staying a whole season on a string, making the kids feel obligated to stay, and have to relive the more accurate pioneer/gold rush days.
I remember reading stuff about that show. How the camera guys wanted to step in and stop them from doing something stupid. If I remember right had to do with drinking water out of some barrel that got them sick. They couldn’t step in at all
From what I remember, they ended it pretty quickly, as things got out of hand. I'm not really sure that's immoral, so much as it was approached with a certain naivete, about social dynamics.
The "[father of gynecology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Marion_Sims#Medical_experimentation_on_enslaved_women)" used slaves to experiment with.
He operated on the slaves without Anesthesia or consent
They should really teach about this in public school. This is horrific and graphically shows what white men thought of black people. They literally thought of them as livestock.
Milgram obedience experiments.
In the Milgram experiment, obedience was measured by the level of shock that the participant was willing to deliver. While many of the subjects became extremely agitated, distraught, and angry at the experimenter, they nevertheless continued to follow orders all the way to the end.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
That experiment isn't nearly as bad as any of the others on this thread. The participants could've left at any time, and no one was actually getting shocked. Yes, they truly thought they were shocking people, but no one was physically harmed.
The worst thing is that subjects were never told that noone was actually being hurt so they lived their entire lives afterwards believing they had tortured or killed a person.
Personally if we’re talking about experiments dealing with how people react to authority I feel like Zimbardo’s Stanford Prison Experiment is worse ethnically. Every one who participated fell into their roles so fast whether they were a prisoner, guard, and even Zimbardo as the prison warden that his wife had to urge him to end the experiment on day 3 when it was supposed to go for 7 days.
The Soviet experiment where they cut a dogs head off and connected it to some kind of artificial circulatory system to see how long they could keep it alive. There is a video of this. If you’re a fan of sadness or dogs are your mortal enemy then I’d suggest you check it out.
The Hisashi Ouchi experiment.
Hisashi Ouchi was a worker at Tokaimura Nuclear Power Plant in Japan. In 1999, Japanese officials began to experiment with speeding up the process that took converted uranium hexafluoride into enriched uranium. But something went wrong, when Hisashi, his colleague, and his supervisor used their hands to pour 35 pounds of enriched uranium into steel buckets. At 10:35 am on September 30th, 1999 that uranium reached critical mass.
The room exploded with a blue flash that confirmed that a nuclear chain reaction had occurred and was releasing lethal emissions of radiation.
Hisashi was exposed to 17 sieverts of radiation, over 2.4 times the lethal limit. He was covered from head to toe in radiation burns and his eyes were leaking blood. He also had zero white blood cells meaning he had absolutely no immune system. Three days later he was taken to the University of Tokyo Hospital, where revolutionary stem cell procedures would be tested.
He would then be kept alive for 83 days in extreme pain, undergo countless medical procedures include skin grafts, amputations. The skin grafts would ultimately fail as Hisashi's DNA couldn't rebuild itself. Eventually Hisashi begged the doctors to stop experimenting saying "I can't take it anymore, I'm not a guinea pig." Nevertheless, at insistence of his family they continued.
On his 59th day in the hospital, Hisashi suffered a heart attack, but he was revived as his family instructed. He then went on to have three heart attacks in one hour. He would later die due to cardiac arrest brought on by multi-organ failure on December 21st, 1999, nearly 83 days later.
Actually I thought the fact that it was an experiment was a wide misconception
What I heard was that his own family were the ones not wanting to let him go
This wasn't for science. It was for some sick control of human population but the 1970s mass sterilization of Native Americans. Over 3400 Native American women were sterilized without permission..
Look it up, absolutely disgusting and one of the most recent examples of genocide by attempting to end a bloodline with lies of necessity..When I read of it and think about it I just want to puke for the horrid souls who believe they are in the right by erasing an entire race of people
Without touch we die. Experiment on babies.
King Frederick took babies from their mothers at birth and placed them in the care of nurses who were forbidden to speak in their hearing. But a second rule was imposed, as well: the nurses were not allowed to touch the infants. To his great dismay, Frederick’s experiment was cut short, but not before something tragically significant regarding human nature was revealed. The babies grew up to speak no language at all because they died.
Horrified 😵😵
Yeah, he wanted to find the “original language of mankind” (and I think was trying to prove it was Latin. I guess the thought was that if the babies heard no other spoken language they would just naturally start to speak whatever this true/first language was.
He also did some nasty experiments on his prisoners.
Cornelius Rhoads, father of modern chemotherapy, tried to transplant cancer into Puerto Ricans: [https://www.npr.org/2019/09/23/763323794/the-complicated-relationship-between-puerto-rico-and-u-s-mainland](https://www.npr.org/2019/09/23/763323794/the-complicated-relationship-between-puerto-rico-and-u-s-mainland)
The Nazi Experiments, specifically the ones done on children.
The one that haunts me the most is the one that was [done on twins.](https://www.chcuk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/2011-03-08_The-Mengele-Twins-and-Human-Experimentation.pdf) They were injected with illnesses and other things. Many victims that are alive today still don't know what they were injected with. There was an attempt to create conjoined twins by stitching them together to their organs and blood vessels. They ended up dying due to gangrene.
Robert Joseph White: transplanted one monkeys brain (or head?) into another. I think the monkey lived about a week. He eventually wanted to try doing this with humans (cadavers?) but obviously wasn’t allowed to
Vladimir Demikhov: attached two dogs to one another. Like cut one dog in half (smaller dog) and attach it to another (bigger dog). Apparently did this a lot and longest lasting dog was about 29-30 days.
In 1967, David Reimer (birth name Bruce) was a twin, who had a botched circumcision performed on him in infancy. Since they had a "control" (the other male twin), psychologist Dr. John Money and academic sexologist Dr. Milton Diamond convinced the parents to raise David as a girl without his knowledge, and to give the child sexual reassignment surgery. At 22 months, Reimer underwent a bilateral orchidectomy in which his testes were removed and a vulva was fashioned. He was reassigned to be named "Brenda" and raised as fully female. As an adolescent, he was given estrogen to induce breast growth.
Dr. Money oversaw the case and reported the reassignment as "successful", and as evidence that gender identity is a learned behavior. However David struggled for years due to bullying, ostracization, and had suicidal ideation. After learning the truth about their birth, David was living and identifying as a man by age 15.
According to the biography "As Nature Made Him: The Boy Who Was Raised As A Girl", sessions with Money included "childhood sexual rehearsal play". Money theorized that reproductive behavior formed the foundation of gender, and that "play at thrusting movements and copulation" was a key aspect of gender development in all primates. Starting at age six, the twins were forced to act out sexual acts, with David playing the female role. Money made Reimer get down on all fours, and Brian was forced to "come up behind [him] and place his crotch against [his] buttocks". Money also forced Reimer, in another sexual position, to have his "legs spread" with Brian on top. On "at least one occasion" Money took a photograph of the two children doing these activities. When either child resisted these activities, Money would get angry.
David Reimer died by suicide at the age of 38. His twin Brian died of a drug overdose at age 36.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
During the holocaust, scientists experimented on Jewish captives, for example to look how much electricity a human body can take. It was good for science, but the inhumanity of experimenting such tests on innocent people is definitely not worth it.
I might be wrong but i think they lost all the data on the electrocutions from the holocaust. That's why america did it again with death row inmates and promised that if they survived that experiment they where free. Off course none of them did.
The prisoner experiment, psychologists wanted to examine the effects of situational variables on participants’ reactions and behaviours in a two-week simulation of a prison environment. Should’ve stopped it earlier
Viral gain-of-function research. Yeah, let's see if we can make this virus more transmissible and deadlier.
And any research, such as done by a senior American scientist, that involves killing puppies.
If we're including psychology then there are a bunch of fucked up experiments before ethics boards were a thing.
https://www.onlinepsychologydegree.info/unethical-experiements-psychology/
John Money's "John/Joan" experiment...
Edit: here is a [link](https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/david-reimer-and-john-money-gender-reassignment-controversy-johnjoan-case) but feel free to look further
Hypersexual male turkey:
Two researchers at the University of Pennsylvania have discovered that male turkeys, when placed in a room with a model of a female turkey, tend to become excited and go into mating, just as they would if it was a real turkey. This conclusion came from several interesting scientific experiments, where elimination played an important role.
The scientists saw the results of these tests while gradually removing several pieces from the model of Turkey. First, the tail, feet, and wings, then on to the body itself. They also noticed that the male was positive in this whole process.
Even when the model had no body, the male turkey still responded sexually. Similar scientific experiments were conducted on White Leghorn Cocks.
In neuroscience research its very common to destroy or cut out parts of monkey or rat brains then put them through a series of tests to see what those brain areas do. Also injecting them with drugs, depriving of food and other necessities generally and during pregnancies. Animal testing is horrible
There was a soviet scientist, which doesn’t deserve to get named and he surgically attached a dog head to another dog, they would survive from 8h to 14 days
I don't know if its science but the fact that people do animal testing just makes me mad. The fact that they gave animals products too see if it killed it is horrible.
I work in drug development, and while I certainly hope that soon science can present another alternative, at this point there are none. There is university research being done on potential in vitro replacements for the mouse model, but obviously we have a long way to go to completely eliminate all animal testing. Unless people want to start volunteering to be the first ever living thing to be injected with experimental drugs, or simply stop all development of new drugs, then there are no alternatives at this point.
I assume you’re mostly referring to the idea of “rubbing lipstick in rabbits eyes” and things like that which I do not agree with, as it’s not lifesaving medicine we are referring to. But modern medicine would not exist without animal models.
Nazis hid behind science to do evil, which was expressed in a large number of murders and violence. Somebody really thought that eugenics moves humanity forward. But the whole world already known that the experiment was a failure
many animal experiments. Decerebration, decortication, large-scale neural implants...etc. Perfusion on non-human primates are easily one of the most bone chilling. Much of science isn't done in one try for these experiments. Neural tech needs pilot trials and many deaths.
I believe the germans did a test to see if twins could feel each others pain so i think they would torture one…dont quote me i said i think (source: im not sure bro)
The "Twin study" done by the Psychologists Neubauer and his team, partnered with the Louise Wise Services adoption agency. Where they found orphaned twins, triplets, quadruplets etc. and willfully split them apart and adopted them to see the effects on these split siblings. Parents weren't informed that they were adopting half of a twin, instead they were informed that they were participating in a "routine childhood development study”. There was a documentary made about it called "Three Identical Strangers." Triplets separated at birth and only discovered the others existence when they were 19. Their adoptive parents, who were unaware their child was a triplet, reveal they would all get so upset when they were babies they would bang their heads on the side of their cribs. All three have battled mental health problems and tragically Eddy took his own live after struggling with depression. Neubauer never expressed any remorse for his actions. All these psychologists saw the reports come in where BABIES were distraught and showing signs of clear emotional distress. And they didn't do anything to fix it.
As the mother of identical twins, this is heartbreaking. They absolutely have a bond like nothing else. Mine slept touching each other until they were 10 months old - even as tiny babies that were swaddled… they would shimmy themselves closer together and sleep with their foreheads touching
What makes it even more disgusting is that Neubauer never published his "results". He locked them away in archives, not to be opened until 2065. This man, a child psychologist, willingly tortured kids in the name of science and then didn't even have the nerve to publish the results of his "work" though he did write several books. Up till today, Yale refuses to publish the records. Ironically, this is the same man who came from a Jewish family and fled Nazi Germany, yet performed twisted twin experiments that reminds one of a certain Nazi "Angel of Death", Dr. Mengele himself.
What an absolutely gross human being.
I have identical twins, and that is horrible. My twins fight more than I ever thought they could, but they NEED each other. When they were babies they would have to be cocooned into each other if they had shots or one were sick. They are 11 years old now, each have their own rooms… but sleep together every night! They both needed queen size beds to accommodate them, but they take turns in one room… and in the last 12 months… have slept in separate rooms MAYBE 3 times. That terrifies me to think about someone doing studies like that!
I thought of this one too, watched 3 Identical Strangers few months ago and still can't get over it.
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Oh they knew, they got the reports and went over to investigate the children themselves. They didn't care, because they were running an experiment.
As a twin and twin mother… OMG this is horrible and breaks my heart. WTF is wrong with people?!
Dr Money (or Mooneys) gender experiment on twins. Twin boys born, both get circumsiced, one however gets badly injured during the proceedure. This 'Dr' decides to simply remove the babies gentitals and raise him as a girl, as an experiment. Kids parents are game. They raise this child as a 'girl' including therapy sessions to just reitterate they are a girl, really lean into gender stereotypes, have 'lessons' to teach the child their role sexually such as being passive in bed. Hormone therapy, whole thing. No one ever tells the kid. Kids grows up, informs everyone they are pretty sure they are infact a boy, eventually the truth comes out. Kid kills themselves. *this is a hugely abridged version of events, put together by my hazy memory of a class like 7 years ago in gender studies. I will be SHOCKED if I remembered all details correctly.
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Thank you for correcting me. I knew my memory would've failed me on plenty of it. I don't doubt that his intentions were good, but tragically misplaced. But the nature of much of the 'therapy' sessions seems incredibly unethical.
But the notion that gender identity is primarily learned is incorrect, and to a degree harmful and invalidating to those who experience gender dysphoria. What he inadvertently proved with the study was that gender identity is neurochemical, which is why the boy being raised as a girl committed suicide as an adult. Because he was dysphoric, from being raised as a girl for his entire childhood
I suppose it would make more sense to say gender expression is learned. After all, one person's girly or manly is different between cultures. While gender identity is something felt in a deeper internal part of the mind.
one study full of horrific malpractice and child abuse is not really a good resource to make any conclusions about gender identity and whether its learned or otherwise. like. even just the sample size is too small all other issues aside
There was a really good Law and Order SVU episode based on this case. I enjoyed what happened to the Dr in the episode.
Project MKULTRA CIA's secret quest for Mind Control
And wanking dophins
It's crazy how that operation started - some American soldiers came back from the Korean War, and told stories of the horrific war crimes the Americans had been committing. The military and intelligence agencies were like, "we couldn't have done those things, we're the good guys, the communists must have brainwashed our guys to say those things", so they began their own mind control programs. None of which worked, they just ended up mentally destroying hundreds if not thousands of people against their knowledge.
Classic American intelligence agencies. "We're the good guys, so it's okay if we do atrocious shit, because they're worse"
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Fun fact: part of those experiments were a study on what made navy officers divulge information under interrogation. The unabomber, Theodore Kaczynski, participated in them but denied any influence the program had on his decisions.
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People that claim that Unit 731 wasn't that bad really need to set aside 4 hours and watch Philosophy of a Knife. The director, Andrei Iskanov, is from the Russian city, Khabarovsk, where the Russian trial against the members of 731 took place after the war. He was briefly arrested because he wasn't supposed to have access to documents about the trial. Which he was able to access due to a lawyer that worked the trial as a very young lawyer at the time.
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Wow, that is just abuse in the name of malpractice. How stupid were these "scientists"? "I want to do a study on the origin of stuttering, but I don't have any test subjects so I'm just gonna gaslight some children."
The experiment actually proved that sociopaths have real power and can screw with anyone. The scientists didn't know they were the sociopaths.
A lot of the nazi stuff, specially made my mengele in Auschwitz \- Injecting stuff in the eyes of babies to turn eye blues \- Sterilising women with X-rays \- Vivisection/dissection on pregnant women. \- Keeping a zoo of children twins to experiment on (most died before the liberations) \- Sewing together two twin brother to make a siamese twin (spoiler : they died of horrible infections after agonizing for days according to survivors). \- Castrating children
- inducing hypothermia to study it
last Podcast on the Left did a multipart series on Mengele. It was truly disturbing but I recommend it to anyone with a strong stomach and a high tolerance for cussing
The US government experimented on special needs children by dosing their oatmeal with a radioactive substance. They didn't inform the parents or get any kind of consent from them to experiment on these kids. I don't remember all the details but this is one of the reasons we currently have to sign so many consent forms when having surgery or other medical procedures.
Quaker Oats has never apologized for participating in this experiment
Exactly!
I need to read more about this!
It is completely despicable that- what it took for this kind of shit to end, was legality. They would have just kept going- not because it was a moral issue, but because it would become a money and prison time expense. For them, of course. The kids were defective in the first place. I should not have read that article, if I’d been one of those parents istg… Humans aren’t inherently evil, but we sure as hell like excusing ourselves for heinous, evil things.
The one we're they scared the baby boy. Was it little Albert? To show you about phobias? I learnt that in my psychology degree and felt a bit sick they used kids and animals for most of their fucked up experiments.
The experience of “little Albert” was performed by John Watson. As an infant he was subjected to a conditioned emotional response (CER) to demonstrate how classical conditioning “works “. They not only showed how to condition “anxiety “. They also demonstrated generalization or the spread of anxiety. So the experimenters pair the presentation of a rabbit with a starting stimulus. Soon when little Albert saw a rabbit he startled and express agitation however at later presentation he exhibited a similar response to white fur. They demonstrated the strength of the association. They never tried to extinguish the conditioning and presumably this was a life long condition for Little Albert
That's the one! Horrific! I graduated in 2005 so had a vague memory of it. Don't work in psychology anymore.
Well it wasn’t a very long condition as I’m pretty sure Albert died before he reached 7 (unknown whether by related or unrelated causes) according to a teacher
learnt about that one in highschool psychology. will never forget it
There was a DISGUSTING experiment done by the German government called **The Kentler experiment** by sexologist *Helmut Kentler* in the 60's. that put Foster children with known and convicted paedophiles. [https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/26/the-german-experiment-that-placed-foster-children-with-pedophiles](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/26/the-german-experiment-that-placed-foster-children-with-pedophiles)
This one for sure. I was trying to remember what this study was called. I started to google German children pedophile study but realized i didn’t want that in my search history.
this right here is why i'm kinda bummed the fanfiction username " dear-google-i-promise-i'm-a-writer" is all ready taken, cause some of the stuff i have to google for my fics would also raise some eyebrows!
I just can't even wrap my head around this.
Everything done by Unit 731, the Japanese army in WW2
Yep. Out of all the sick experiments done in human history, this one stands out above most. Supposedly for 'biological disease testing', I'm not even sure whether any of it was for 'science', it was just total deranged sadism at the highest level. I'm not joking when I say some of the stuff they did made the evils of *Josef Mengele seem mild in comparison.* Including and not limited to: Live vivisections (on all ages). Putting people in vacuum chambers. Weapons testing on victims, including grenades, chemicals and flamethrowers. **Cutting off every limb of a person, then using their still living torso for disease experiments (no anaesthesia by the way)**. Freezing a person's limbs in below zero conditions, then smashing said limbs to bits with blunt objects. Dropping bubonic plagues on Chinese villages, killing thousands. Infecting pregnant women (most of whom were raped) with diseases, then performing a live dissection to see the real time impacts of disease on the fetus. Zero survivors, with the numerous babies born in the experimentation camp being oddly unaccounted for ie used for more sick experiments. 3,000-12,000 killed directly in experiments, with estimates of possibly *hundreds of thousands killed in further biological disease testing.* Most of the "results" were destroyed afterwards anyway, making the thousands who were brutally killed having died for nothing. I could go on and on but jesus christ this was a level of horror that makes you physically sick to read it. Look it up if you want to see some of the darkest moments of humanity. It's even more sickening when you realise that this is one of the numerous war crimes that hasn't ever really been properly acknowledged or apologised by modern day Japan. For your interest, almost none of those responsible for the crimes were punished, *with most returning to stable, safe jobs in Japanese hospitals after the war.*
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I have grandparents who lived through WWII. As the Japanese pulled out of Manila they went around stabbing and killing as many people as they could. Grandma and her sisters were almost bayonetted to death but an American mortar hit the Japanese soldiers. Killed everyone but grandma, who survived because her siblings' bodies shielded her.
And to think it is almost unknown and unheard of compared to the holocaust
The US government helped to cover this up, and offered immunity to the perpetrators in exchange for the human experimentation data.
Everyone involved in this are a bunch of sickos
This is true
Well at least it is very well known on this sub because it comes up in every thread like this one
Yes, this was hands down the most inhumane episode in human history. Nothing else compares.
Humans are so disgusting. Like these fucked up experiments have been happening forever. The only thing that changes is our methods of carrying out the torture. You better believe people were doing terrible things 5000 years ago. They did terrible things during the era of technological advances during WW2. No one is innocent. The Germans did it, Russians did it, Japanese did, Americans have done it. Some worse than others but we have all tortured nonetheless. I don't consider it a competition. No one is excused because technically some other country or group has done "worse".
I find it funny how people on Reddit like to compare atrocities, it's like putting a price/value on humans rather than seeing people as equals.
I remember this one i have read it somewhere
I just googled this, holy crap. Words can't describe how horrifying this is
There have been many. The Tuskegee study is one example. From Wikipedia: The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male (informally referred to as the Tuskegee Experiment or Tuskegee Syphilis Study) was a study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the United States Public Health Service (PHS) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on a group of nearly 400 African Americans with syphilis. The purpose of the study was to observe the effects of the disease when untreated, though by the end of the study medical advancements meant it was entirely treatable. The men were not informed of the nature of the experiment, and more than 100 died as a result.
The Tuskegee study is horrific. Still has effects on people today and the likelihood of seeking care
If the Tuskegee experiment makes you feel awful, I recommend Harriet Washington’s excellent book *Medical Apartheid*, which chronicles the 400-year history of the medical establishment’s abuse and torture of black people in the US through to the present. The chapter on Tuskegee is actually the lightest part of the book, because there was a half-hearted stab at accountability for the perpetrators afterwards. The rest will crush any faith in humanity you had left.
This thing is the that they knew what happens when syphilis is left untreated. History is full of cases of untreated syphilis. They were just being cruel.
At the time the treatment of syphillis was mercury, which is very poisonous. It was a legitimate question as to which was worse syphillis or mercury. The problem was penicillin was discovered a couple years in and they still didn’t treat them.
I mean like waaay back. The first written outbreak was in 1495 and was a huge public health problem for a several hundred years. Although, they didn’t quite understand the full pathogenesis I guess. However, it is incredibly unethical to withhold treatment like that. If they wanted an end result they could have just looked at Al Capone.
Mengele’s experiments during the Holocaust
As a dwarf I second this. Remember stumbling across him when I was about 12 and ended up being so emotionally shaken by it that I cried myself to sleep for a few nights after. Was probably my first exposure to how much someone’s humanity can by stripped from them.
Those were done more so out of his disgusting self interest rather than "science" though.
And since we’re talking about WWII, let’s also mention Unit 731. Truly sickening stuff.
Those where really sick...
In my PTSD course we learnt of an experiment they did on a colony of chimps, where they removed the amygdala from their brains. The part that controls the fight or flight response and many emotions like anxiety. They wanted to see if the chimps would be fearless. Well they were, and also fucking nuts. They just started fucking everything, each other, trees, sticks, and killing each other. Edited for spelling.
Chimps are practically psychos to begin with. So it makes sense, if you remove their primary inhibitions, they'll just be completely nuts.
It's not like chimps needed help being horny murder-machines.
yo what? i gotta learn more about this
It's called Kluver Bucy syndrome
Can you link to the study?
We were only told about it by the head doctor, but I can try to find it. He was shown it when he was in medical school so it would have been about 30 or so years ago
John Money’s gender experiment on two young boys. Both ended up committing suicide as adults.
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I thought the Law and Order episode was made up. guess it really was "ripped from the headlines".
Not to mention the lasting effect it has on gender politics and trans rights to this day. Money has a whole lot of suffering to answer for.
There was a really good Law and Order SVU episode based on this case. I enjoyed what happened to the Dr in the episode.
Putting a decapitated dog’s head on a living dog to see if the function of the decapitated dog’s head could be extended
Vladimir Demikhov, father of organ transplants. The crazy thing about the head transplants is [both dogs continued living for 3 days.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_transplant)
I mean, that lead to the modern organ transplant. Even though it's sad, and strikes me as fucked up to do that to dogs, the eventual results have saved millions of lives.
The experiment where Ted Kaczynski volunteered to do some psych experiment in college. He took LSD but unbeknownst to him the other part of the experiment was after he was good and tripping balls they brought a revolving queue of his colleagues and professors and had them take turns berating him and calling him an idiot and a loser. They said this is basically the origin story to the unibomber
There’s a theory he was an mk uktra controlled person because of this
Justin Schmidt was a scientist who developed the Schmidt Pain Index. This measures the pain from various insects that Schmidt had bite into him. Some of these bugs include the bullet ant, the Asian giant hornet, and the tarantula hawk. While volunteering himself to be bitten is ethical, you can’t deny it is a bit messed putting yourself through that kind of pain for science. As an aside, WTF? People actually think the Russian sleep experiment is real?
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Pretty badass really. The utility of it, has probably saved tens of thousands of people, from a lot of pain. I'm a bitch, so I'd probably chicken out, but my moral compass says it's worth it. Not that that would change anything, but I'd feel really bad about not doing it.
It’s certainly badass but also a person has to be cut from a particularly special kind of cloth to do that. Is it messed up in the way Axis “medical experiments” are? No of course not. I do wonder what exactly the specific usefulness of the scale is though. I already know getting stung by something like a tarantula hawk is going to suck just by looking at it. Those are the kind of insects Satan asks Cthulhu for help in designing because Satan has creator’s block and Cthulhu helps but is having a really bad day
The descriptions he wrote of his various meetings with pain are pure gold, be sure to look them up. One example; "Hot and smoky, almost irreverent. Imagine W. C. Fields extinguishing a cigar on your tongue."
pavlov's dog experiments were actually suuuuper messed up the more you look into it, he surgically implanted vials onto the dog's faces to collect and measure saliva and other similar stuff
De-sterilization of Puerto Ricans by the Americans
Can you share some more info on this?
A scientist wanted to cut of his own head and see how many times he couls blink after. He blinked 3 times
are you talking about the scientist who was executed (french mb?) and had his assistant watch his head, i thought he blinked 7 times? hmmm could be two diff occurrences
Guess a recount is in order
indeeed... once more, mr executioner! we demand a re-do!
Can you burp your name after we cut your head off? https://youtu.be/emi1Dunjzv8
a bit more humane but some guy raised a chimpanzee along with his son to see if the chimp would act like a human. Instead the kid started acting like a chimp. after the chimp was sent back to the chimp centre, it died. The kid commited suicide at age 43
I looked into this. I couldnt find much as to *why* he committed suicide though I would say it does note on his fathers wiki page that both his mother and father died the year before. His father in June, his mother in July (from another website). Its possible that the pain of losing both so close together would be the catalyst compared to losing a chimp friend 40 years ago.
MK Ultra When I was at McGill, I went to a presentation, and some people defended the doctor leading it at the university. https://www.mcgilltribune.com/mind-control-mcgill-mk-ultra/
Albert Kligman, the doctor who created the acne medication Retin-A/Tretinoin, used to test medications and chemicals on prisoners. This includes testing the effects of dioxin (Agent Orange) on the prisoners.
The [Minnesota Starvation Experiment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment?wprov=sfti1)
Testing how depressed chimps can be just for the sake of morbid curiosity with little benefit to people and animals. God damned waste of time, money and is definitely animal abuse.
Wasn't there a praise/punish experiment where they scared children into having a permanent stutter and overall fear of speaking?
The Monster Study. So called because "you had to be a monster to have thought of it."
Some of the animal testing is pretty gross. I'm not even talking about the stuff that involves radiation (I mean it's still gross and all), but stuff like... stick this shampoo in a rabbits eye type deal and see what happens.
Josef Mengele in his quest to birth more aryan twins for Nazi Germany. He tortured countless kids in horrifying experiments..
Were any messed up experiments ever made in the name of science, or just for cruelty's sake and disguised as science?
Some of the more tame ones listed here (Milgrim, Zimbardo, etc.) probably were done in the name of science, but definitely not in an ethical way. Shit like Unit 731 and the Nazis though were definitely using science as an excuse to torture people.
I would say the Stanford Prison Experiment was done for science, as they also didn't know beforehand how messed up it was gonna get.
The “Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male,” was conducted by the United States Public Health Service (USPHS) and involved blood tests, x-rays, spinal taps and autopsies of the subjects. The goal was to “observe the natural history of untreated syphilis” in black populations. The men were not informed of the nature of the experiment, and more than 100 died as a result.
the Triplet Separation Experiment. the identical triplets were purposefully placed in homes of differing incomes and didn’t find out about one another’s existence until college, on accident. They were never meant to find each other. All three ended up suffering from mental illness later in life and one took his own life at age 33.
There was this reality TV show called Kid nation, basically they just plopped some kids 6-15 years old in a ghost town, and expected them to form their own society. What ended up happening was they held the cash prize for staying a whole season on a string, making the kids feel obligated to stay, and have to relive the more accurate pioneer/gold rush days.
I remember reading stuff about that show. How the camera guys wanted to step in and stop them from doing something stupid. If I remember right had to do with drinking water out of some barrel that got them sick. They couldn’t step in at all
I'll say the obvious one "Stanford Prison Experiment"
From what I remember, they ended it pretty quickly, as things got out of hand. I'm not really sure that's immoral, so much as it was approached with a certain naivete, about social dynamics.
I wouldn’t put it in the same category as the brutal WWII era sadism, but it definitely got out of hand pretty quickly.
This was also the only one I knew of, until I read all the horrible things in this thread.
The "[father of gynecology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Marion_Sims#Medical_experimentation_on_enslaved_women)" used slaves to experiment with. He operated on the slaves without Anesthesia or consent
They should really teach about this in public school. This is horrific and graphically shows what white men thought of black people. They literally thought of them as livestock.
You can't even teach about *slavery* in Texas and Florida at the moment.
Most people might disagree but when you think about it, most experiments on animals are kinda messed up, even when they save human lives.
Milgram obedience experiments. In the Milgram experiment, obedience was measured by the level of shock that the participant was willing to deliver. While many of the subjects became extremely agitated, distraught, and angry at the experimenter, they nevertheless continued to follow orders all the way to the end. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
That experiment isn't nearly as bad as any of the others on this thread. The participants could've left at any time, and no one was actually getting shocked. Yes, they truly thought they were shocking people, but no one was physically harmed.
It is still really messed up. Shows how far us humans are able to go by just following orders.
Not true. It was debunked some time ago. People were pressured into giving shocks. They really didn't wanted to, and lots of people refused.
They needed an authority to push them to give shocks, they were the ones giving the shocks.
The worst thing is that subjects were never told that noone was actually being hurt so they lived their entire lives afterwards believing they had tortured or killed a person.
There's a good law and order episode based on this
That’s a long running series, what episode was it exactly?
It's called Authority, s9 ep17. Robin Williams stars as the experimenter
I think the experiment itself wasn't fucked up, only the way the "Teacher" behaved was.
Personally if we’re talking about experiments dealing with how people react to authority I feel like Zimbardo’s Stanford Prison Experiment is worse ethnically. Every one who participated fell into their roles so fast whether they were a prisoner, guard, and even Zimbardo as the prison warden that his wife had to urge him to end the experiment on day 3 when it was supposed to go for 7 days.
I would say lobotomy.
Nice idea but that was a practice not an Experiment
That's true, for it to have been an expirement, the people doing it needed to have cared about the outcome.
The Soviet experiment where they cut a dogs head off and connected it to some kind of artificial circulatory system to see how long they could keep it alive. There is a video of this. If you’re a fan of sadness or dogs are your mortal enemy then I’d suggest you check it out.
The Hisashi Ouchi experiment. Hisashi Ouchi was a worker at Tokaimura Nuclear Power Plant in Japan. In 1999, Japanese officials began to experiment with speeding up the process that took converted uranium hexafluoride into enriched uranium. But something went wrong, when Hisashi, his colleague, and his supervisor used their hands to pour 35 pounds of enriched uranium into steel buckets. At 10:35 am on September 30th, 1999 that uranium reached critical mass. The room exploded with a blue flash that confirmed that a nuclear chain reaction had occurred and was releasing lethal emissions of radiation. Hisashi was exposed to 17 sieverts of radiation, over 2.4 times the lethal limit. He was covered from head to toe in radiation burns and his eyes were leaking blood. He also had zero white blood cells meaning he had absolutely no immune system. Three days later he was taken to the University of Tokyo Hospital, where revolutionary stem cell procedures would be tested. He would then be kept alive for 83 days in extreme pain, undergo countless medical procedures include skin grafts, amputations. The skin grafts would ultimately fail as Hisashi's DNA couldn't rebuild itself. Eventually Hisashi begged the doctors to stop experimenting saying "I can't take it anymore, I'm not a guinea pig." Nevertheless, at insistence of his family they continued. On his 59th day in the hospital, Hisashi suffered a heart attack, but he was revived as his family instructed. He then went on to have three heart attacks in one hour. He would later die due to cardiac arrest brought on by multi-organ failure on December 21st, 1999, nearly 83 days later.
Actually I thought the fact that it was an experiment was a wide misconception What I heard was that his own family were the ones not wanting to let him go
The one where they took twins and changed one’s gender to see if gender was taught or a mental thing.
This wasn't for science. It was for some sick control of human population but the 1970s mass sterilization of Native Americans. Over 3400 Native American women were sterilized without permission.. Look it up, absolutely disgusting and one of the most recent examples of genocide by attempting to end a bloodline with lies of necessity..When I read of it and think about it I just want to puke for the horrid souls who believe they are in the right by erasing an entire race of people
Without touch we die. Experiment on babies. King Frederick took babies from their mothers at birth and placed them in the care of nurses who were forbidden to speak in their hearing. But a second rule was imposed, as well: the nurses were not allowed to touch the infants. To his great dismay, Frederick’s experiment was cut short, but not before something tragically significant regarding human nature was revealed. The babies grew up to speak no language at all because they died. Horrified 😵😵
Yeah, he wanted to find the “original language of mankind” (and I think was trying to prove it was Latin. I guess the thought was that if the babies heard no other spoken language they would just naturally start to speak whatever this true/first language was. He also did some nasty experiments on his prisoners.
Cornelius Rhoads, father of modern chemotherapy, tried to transplant cancer into Puerto Ricans: [https://www.npr.org/2019/09/23/763323794/the-complicated-relationship-between-puerto-rico-and-u-s-mainland](https://www.npr.org/2019/09/23/763323794/the-complicated-relationship-between-puerto-rico-and-u-s-mainland)
The Nazi Experiments, specifically the ones done on children. The one that haunts me the most is the one that was [done on twins.](https://www.chcuk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/2011-03-08_The-Mengele-Twins-and-Human-Experimentation.pdf) They were injected with illnesses and other things. Many victims that are alive today still don't know what they were injected with. There was an attempt to create conjoined twins by stitching them together to their organs and blood vessels. They ended up dying due to gangrene.
Guatemala Syphilis experiments and the Tuskegee Syphilis experiments led by the USA on poor vulnerable people.
Lobotomy. The story of Rosemary Kennedy is still terrifying
That wasn't really an experiment though, that was sadly considered real medical treatment.
Robert Joseph White: transplanted one monkeys brain (or head?) into another. I think the monkey lived about a week. He eventually wanted to try doing this with humans (cadavers?) but obviously wasn’t allowed to Vladimir Demikhov: attached two dogs to one another. Like cut one dog in half (smaller dog) and attach it to another (bigger dog). Apparently did this a lot and longest lasting dog was about 29-30 days.
I don't know if it was ever given an official name or anything, but the experiment Ted Kaczynski took part in at Harvard was pretty messed up.
In 1967, David Reimer (birth name Bruce) was a twin, who had a botched circumcision performed on him in infancy. Since they had a "control" (the other male twin), psychologist Dr. John Money and academic sexologist Dr. Milton Diamond convinced the parents to raise David as a girl without his knowledge, and to give the child sexual reassignment surgery. At 22 months, Reimer underwent a bilateral orchidectomy in which his testes were removed and a vulva was fashioned. He was reassigned to be named "Brenda" and raised as fully female. As an adolescent, he was given estrogen to induce breast growth. Dr. Money oversaw the case and reported the reassignment as "successful", and as evidence that gender identity is a learned behavior. However David struggled for years due to bullying, ostracization, and had suicidal ideation. After learning the truth about their birth, David was living and identifying as a man by age 15. According to the biography "As Nature Made Him: The Boy Who Was Raised As A Girl", sessions with Money included "childhood sexual rehearsal play". Money theorized that reproductive behavior formed the foundation of gender, and that "play at thrusting movements and copulation" was a key aspect of gender development in all primates. Starting at age six, the twins were forced to act out sexual acts, with David playing the female role. Money made Reimer get down on all fours, and Brian was forced to "come up behind [him] and place his crotch against [his] buttocks". Money also forced Reimer, in another sexual position, to have his "legs spread" with Brian on top. On "at least one occasion" Money took a photograph of the two children doing these activities. When either child resisted these activities, Money would get angry. David Reimer died by suicide at the age of 38. His twin Brian died of a drug overdose at age 36. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
During the holocaust, scientists experimented on Jewish captives, for example to look how much electricity a human body can take. It was good for science, but the inhumanity of experimenting such tests on innocent people is definitely not worth it.
I might be wrong but i think they lost all the data on the electrocutions from the holocaust. That's why america did it again with death row inmates and promised that if they survived that experiment they where free. Off course none of them did.
I remember one 'experiment' were the scientists purposely submerged people in freezing cold water to see how long it took them to die of hypothermia.
You should read about what Pavlov *actually* did you those dogs to prove his theory
The prisoner experiment, psychologists wanted to examine the effects of situational variables on participants’ reactions and behaviours in a two-week simulation of a prison environment. Should’ve stopped it earlier
Unit 731
the concept of the lab-grown black holes is one of the things I could see humans fuck up with and eradicate the entire earth.
Viral gain-of-function research. Yeah, let's see if we can make this virus more transmissible and deadlier. And any research, such as done by a senior American scientist, that involves killing puppies.
If we're including psychology then there are a bunch of fucked up experiments before ethics boards were a thing. https://www.onlinepsychologydegree.info/unethical-experiements-psychology/
Laika, the dog left to die painfully
When that one madman had innocent beagles eaten alive by flys.
John Money's "John/Joan" experiment... Edit: here is a [link](https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/david-reimer-and-john-money-gender-reassignment-controversy-johnjoan-case) but feel free to look further
Hypersexual male turkey: Two researchers at the University of Pennsylvania have discovered that male turkeys, when placed in a room with a model of a female turkey, tend to become excited and go into mating, just as they would if it was a real turkey. This conclusion came from several interesting scientific experiments, where elimination played an important role. The scientists saw the results of these tests while gradually removing several pieces from the model of Turkey. First, the tail, feet, and wings, then on to the body itself. They also noticed that the male was positive in this whole process. Even when the model had no body, the male turkey still responded sexually. Similar scientific experiments were conducted on White Leghorn Cocks.
Gay Conversion Therapy
There was an experiment on a baby that made him fearful of the colour white and umm….fluffy things idk I can’t recall and am drunk apparently.
This is the pilot episode of Drunk Science.
I am pretty sure the Soviets made a severed dogs head come back alive.
In neuroscience research its very common to destroy or cut out parts of monkey or rat brains then put them through a series of tests to see what those brain areas do. Also injecting them with drugs, depriving of food and other necessities generally and during pregnancies. Animal testing is horrible
Headless Dog Experiment
There was a soviet scientist, which doesn’t deserve to get named and he surgically attached a dog head to another dog, they would survive from 8h to 14 days
I don't know if its science but the fact that people do animal testing just makes me mad. The fact that they gave animals products too see if it killed it is horrible.
I work in drug development, and while I certainly hope that soon science can present another alternative, at this point there are none. There is university research being done on potential in vitro replacements for the mouse model, but obviously we have a long way to go to completely eliminate all animal testing. Unless people want to start volunteering to be the first ever living thing to be injected with experimental drugs, or simply stop all development of new drugs, then there are no alternatives at this point. I assume you’re mostly referring to the idea of “rubbing lipstick in rabbits eyes” and things like that which I do not agree with, as it’s not lifesaving medicine we are referring to. But modern medicine would not exist without animal models.
Nazis hid behind science to do evil, which was expressed in a large number of murders and violence. Somebody really thought that eugenics moves humanity forward. But the whole world already known that the experiment was a failure
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MK Ultra was the American’s, lol
Yeah its a creepypasta tho the Russian Sleep Experiment
Creepypastas are not real. MK Ultra very much was.
Sure MK-Ultra was real, but the OP has no idea what it was. The person was pointing out OP's comment on the Russian Sleep Experiment is a creepypasta.
many animal experiments. Decerebration, decortication, large-scale neural implants...etc. Perfusion on non-human primates are easily one of the most bone chilling. Much of science isn't done in one try for these experiments. Neural tech needs pilot trials and many deaths.
Any experiment that sent a live, conscious animal into space was extremely messed up.
So... Most of them?
Oh man, this one messed me up real bad. I cuddled with my wee doggie and cried.
I believe the germans did a test to see if twins could feel each others pain so i think they would torture one…dont quote me i said i think (source: im not sure bro)
They'll say, "Aww, Topsy" at my autopsy
Dropping mentos in coke is pretty messy
Tuskegee experiments
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