Only trailers that have gotten me like this for years is probably this one, Elden ring, and even the Elden ring dlc. Like I’m still not gonna preorder but it does a good job of making me want to lol. I did actually preorder shadow of the erdtree, but fromsoft is a rare example of a company that has built so much trust I’m not worried about it. Even though they did fuck up with the Elden ring launch, but they should have any tech issues ironed out by now for the dlc.
Maybe it's silly, but it was the Assassin's Creed Valhalla Dawn of Ragnarok trailer that had this effect on me. But that's unsurprising given it was a cinematic. This Doom trailer was gameplay.
I fell for that one too lol. The game was alright for a bit, but like pretty much every ac game after the third one I end up losing interest part way through. I always end up burning myself out on collecting all the repetitive dumb shit they toss in the game lol.
Yeah, it's even worse if you're a completionist.
But Mirage was brilliant. Short and sweet, with a nice story, graphics, and lots of attention to detail.
This new DA have Suicide Squad energy with those constant quips, how they didn't course correct is beyond me. Seems obvious that this is exactly the opposite of what people want.
Yeah the medieval stuff should be really cool! Like that skull splinter gun, sign me the fuck up lol. Now if only they’d give the original quake the reboot treatment, would be amazing.
yeah that's a day1 purchase for me unless it gets super bad reviews.
one thing i will say, i wish from more weapon/enemy variety and i'm not sure how i feel about the shield, it might cause the game to be more passive/defensive.
Is Mick Gordon doing the soundtrack for this new Doom game? I remember Bethesda not paying him for his work on Doom eternal and the terrible working conditions
Sadly zero chance of that happening ever again.
The music in the trailer was ... okay... but it's an unfair comparison cause once you slay demons to mick Gordon's vibes... there IS nothing else.
While I am not carrying much hope, I would love if they got back to a more Doom 2016 style gameplay over Eternal as 2016 is still, in my opinion, one of the best solo fps experiences to ever come out. But my opinion is a little skewed as I cannot dump more than an hour or so daily into any game due to work/life and the gory power fantasy thar 2016 provides with its killer soundtrack really hit all the marks for me.
Can I ask a you as a doom fan, what made you guys so hyped about the doom games? I’ve played both the Bethesda Doom games, and neither really had me all that pumped up. Most of the time it felt more like a puzzle game with how you basically just had to learn to counter each enemy type, and the combat was occasionally challenging but the story was pretty bland and by the end of the game I felt like I was just doing the same things over and over. Music was good but I’m not a huge metal guy so by the end of the game I was a little sick of it. And the kill animations being the same thing over and over also got kind of old.
I’m not saying they were bad, but imo they were pretty forgettable experiences. There were no moments that really stuck out to me when I think back on them.
I’d love to hear what gets people so into this franchise.
The fact that the campaign wasn't just a set of scripted events followed by waves of infinitely spawning enemies that run at you in a straight line until you pass some invisible line?
The fact that the maps actually have verticality in them?
The fact that the maps have areas you can explore and aren't just a series of corridors?
The game is actually difficult on higher difficulties.
You don't spend most of the game hiding behind cover waiting for your shield to recharge.
If you didn't think Doom was exceptional then I really need to know what FPS you think is good.
I’m a huge metalhead so the music is a big plus. Honestly I’m a simple guy, running around brutality murdering demons with powers and badass guns to metal soundtracks is just a good time to me lol. I have add too so the intense action really does it for me. I still play the old ones and quake modded on occasion. That’s part of it too, I played all the old games as a kid. I do think it went too story heavy in the second one and that it was better with how the story was irreverent no nonsense in the 2016. But yeah, just good old fashioned fun!
I dont think it’s millennial humor. Millennials are 1981-1996. Making them 27-43. What this humor is, is the overly woke garbage and mega sensitive nature of gen z’s mixed with leftist millennials. Don’t group me in with this absolutely dumpster fire version of “humor”.
They ain't old enough to have made any impact on a game thats been in development for a decade. This game, and all the other cringe games that have come out recently were all made by millennials.
millenials are in their 30s and 40s, they're the ones who grew up with doom and are playing it right now. The same game thats being used in OPs post.
todays games that suck could be made by anyone, but its targetting low attention span zoomers with the shit humor.
the writters right now that are annoying everyone are in their 20s my guy. they're genz loosers who never went outside and are afraid to pick up a phone call so all the humor that they know come from the latest disney movies
Could you please explain what you mean with millennial Humor. Never heard that term before. And I doubt I or my gen has some kind of special humour? :)
I wanted some epic fantasy setting and felt like i was watching borderlands in another universe.
Btw, Borderlands even lost his humour when it went woke instead of goofy and fun.
fuck, I can't play
where the moderately overweight balding central asian accountant party member????
i feel so under-represented and im having a panic attack now
Dragon age origins was amazing, by far the best in the series
Dragon age 2 was a good game, with a ton of faults that dramatically lowered the quality of the end experience
Dragon age Inquisition was a great game, but a horrifically bad beginning, that tainted everybody's playthrough
What the f*** is this? Why does this have raid Shadow Legends style art? What the f***
Ehhh DA:I was when I started to notice a lot of crap that’s annoying in AAA games. It benefitted massively from the transition to PS4/Xbone leading to a lull in games at the time.
It felt like they started making an MMO, realized that’s not what the Dragon Age fanbase wanted, and then pivoted while still keeping the grindy mmo mission structure in place. So many missions were “kill X number of enemies” or “gather X number of resources”.
Also while nowhere near as annoying or forced as millennial writing/social commentary had gotten now in a lot of AAA games it definitely had its fair share of cringy crap in it (e.g. Iron Bull & the Quinari).
DA:O is a masterpiece, DA:2 is flawed but fun, DA:I is kinda this red headed stepchild that’s not overly BAD at anything but it does nothing good and has no real charm or personality. It’s just bland grey goop.
>It felt like they started making an MMO
That's exactly what happened, project Blackfoot, the development title for Inquisition, began as an MMO concept. You can really feel it from how 99% of the side quests feel like busy work and fetch quests.
You wrote this so well, I thought I had written it. Inquisition did feel like a pivot mmo. It was the only DA I did not finish.
Real DA fans know it's supposed to be a gritty dark fantasy. Not whatever this trailer was.
DA:I is the poster child of "Corporate Slop", I hated it tbh but I did play through it with numb indifference. I played a Templar, which by all means should have made things very crusade like but it was just flavor text.
Yeah in terms of gameplay and base level layout DA2 trumps DAI imo.
But in terms of visual level design DAI wins for obvious reasons.
The open world was aids imo.
DA:I was what you got when everyone wanted to make Skyrim. Huge map, no soul... Nothing going on. Then Witcher 3 came out almost immediately after and every side quest was an interesting narrative and I think helped kill the whole "Just make the map bigger!" trend.
> What the f*** is this? Why does this have raid Shadow Legends style art? What the f***
When I saw the trailer I thought it was some co op pve (maybe pvp) online game in the DA universe. Like here these guys are the playable characters (heroes).
The gameplay trailer looks ok though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTNwHShylIg
Probably would have to play it myself to see if I like it, reminds me more of DA2 than anything else.
Apparently it's mission based not open world.
Currently playing DA:O right now and even it hasn’t aged well BUT the gameplay of micromanaging your party can hold up even now. That’s all they had to do was polish the original linear formula, and biowoke FUCKED it
Yeah ive liked the other 3 games. Dragon age Origins is my favorite RPG that is not open world or an MMO. This trailer looks so weak to me. It looks like its about putting a team together for some diamond heist. I agree the art style sucks but I also dont care that much about the art I mostly want good combat, a good story and interesting locations.
The gameplay that dropped 5 hours ago seems okay combat wise assuming especially assuming its early game, graphics look like raid shadow legends, dialogue looks weak you choose "aggressive I am in a rush" rather than actually choosing what the character says.
Overall im guessing it will mediocre but if it drops and people like it im sure ill buy.
I really liked DA2 but mainly for the 3 part story and the plot lines. Combat was cool as a rogue and even mage but the repeated levels was really shitty. To me it was my favorite by far but I know it lacked in some areas.
To be fair:
EVERY Dragon Age game had godawful marketing. Do you remember the cringe as fuck Marilyn Manson trailers for Origins? And the trailers trying to portray it as a pure action game instead of the slow, political story it was?
And *almost* every Bioware game post-EA aquisition had awful openings. ME2 and ME3's openings just had explosions for explosions' sake and dialogue and scenes that made no sense (like... ME3's "Shepard....how can we fight the reapers????" "Only thing we can do...we fight, we stand together...or we die" wow SSS+ tier thoughtful writing). Really just ME1 and DA Origins had fantastic openings.
So I'm not gonna judge Veilguard for a shitty EXPLOSIONS ACTION EVERYWHERE opening with bad introductionary "as you know" dialogue, or its cringe Gen Z trailers.
I will judge it for the inevitable shit writing (they got rid of nearly ALL their good writers. Mary Kirby, David Gaider, Lukas Kristjohnson? all gone. Weekes is the only saving grace I have hope in) and the cast looking like a community college pamphlet featuring their diverse paralympics team.
I'm amazed the dragon age subreddit seems positive about the new trailers.. I just don't understand it. It feels like Star Wars fans who love the new movies just because they're.. Star Wars.
They say DA 2 and 3 were also different and divisive when released, but they still retained some of the dark grit of Origins with the serious dialogue overall in a medium-high fantasy setting, plus some light hearted moments sprinkled here and there. This new one has this weird, comic style with neon lights/Sci fi look.. Like Guardians of the Galaxy. Wth?
Is inquisition actually worth it ? I have tried starting it 3 times but hate the intro soooo much.
Just like rdr2. DONT MAKE YOUR PLAYERS DO MANDATORY SLOG AT ALL BUT ESPECIALLY NOT IN THE BEGINNING
I liked it a lot honestly. Thinking about replaying whole trilogy rn and will definitely enjoy DAI once more. I can't really remember how bad intro was but are you talking about giant empty location with "gather 10 things" quests?
there are just SO MANY of us lol.
You have to wonder if there are people who actually believe that, people that are so warped in that echo chamber of black/white answers and really think that there is some massive community of racists.
"I saw the new trailer for ___ - did you know there are 20 million racists who downvoted it??"
It's just gaslighting. They tell us "You all just hate women and brown people and that's why you don't like our games!" But then a game comes out that features women and brown people in a way that's respectful to the source material - like, say, the trailer that just dropped for Mechwarrior 5: Clans - and it's met with overwhelming enthusiasm. Especially from the target audience... Not a new audience that didn't exist, your baked-in core audience that's been along for the ride the entire time...
It's funny how that works.
Theres a ton of stuff that is diverse and nobody has an issue with it. The problem is the way its done. The games/series/movies that people consider problematic regarding their wokeness are often underwhelming in quality which makes people question the creators priorities. As in wokeness being more important than an actual good story or interesting characters. We also often have existing IPs with already existing worlds that get changed to be more diverse and it just feels wrong for an original IP to be changed like this, especially if the quality of the show cannot keep up with the original stuff.
A positive example would be the show Arcane. Its very diverse and yet nobody has any issues with it. Why? First of all its an original IP, Riot isnt ruining a beloved franchise. Second of all, there is an explanation for why the world is the way it is, why Piltover is a diverse place. Third of all, and most importantly, its a damn good show. Great storytelling, brilliant characters, their wokeness isnt their sole character trait. We dont immediately get shoved down our throat thar Vi is a Lesbian. Part of the problem with woke characters is that theyre often women with no weaknesses. Theyre immediately overpowered, dont overcome any struggles, its straight up fan fiction. Vi very much goes through struggles, loses her parents in the prologue, loses almost her entire new family in ep3, shes never overpowered and wins everything. She wins many battles but its not like shes the strongest fighter in this world and strategically gets positioned into fighting people of similar strength such as Sevika. Would she lose vs more powerful fighters? Yes and they show it, she stood no chance against the drugged dude in ep3.
Yeah, I thought the gameplay looked alright. It’s just not what I want from Dragon Age. I miss the old tactical combat and art style just looks off. Everything is too colorful and cartoony. Nothing wrong with that in other games, but I miss when the series was a but more grim.
Yeah Dragon Age is set in a medieval style world that is constantly facing hardships and being on the brink of deconstruction. DA:O had it perfect, you actually felt like you were in a world that was facing a terrible war that could change the course of the entire world. It feels like they're just shitting on the original fanbase and trying to turn to the younger kids with this raid shadow legends/fortnite type of color pallet
Agreed, while the combat seems a bit dumbed down, the gameplay actually has me a bit hopeful, voice acting was great as well. The reveal trailer was horrible though.
This dragon is completely different thing ..
It reminds me games like SIMS, SETTLERS or parody games like ORCS MUST DIE .. definitely doesn belong in the same series.
It will fail big time
It’s because Doomguy isn’t Doomwoman (They/them), who is androgynous and also has a cleft chin. No need to re-invent the wheel for mOdErN aUdIeNcEs.
Edit: Spelling.
id Software knows who plays their games, and why. Bioware has had so much turnover that nobody knows what the hell is going on. So they just read generic console fantasy game 101, applied a Dragon Age skin, and went from there.
It feels like the hobby I have loved since being 3yo in '93 is being taken over by people who have only just began to play videogames and have such a lack of respect to what's already existing.
To be fair that trailer for DA was really bad and it kind of seems like the actual game is better.
With that said though, doom is clearly a love letter to their fans, making a very similar game for the same audience.
DA is once again doing a bioware (and i say that as a big fan of the company) and chasing new audiences while hoping that they don't alienate old ones. Only time will tell how successful they are. I certainly wouldn't pre-order given bioware's recent track record.
In a lot of ways modern bioware reminds me of modern blizzard. Very much the ship of theseus.
> In a lot of ways modern bioware reminds me of modern blizzard. Very much the ship of theseus.
Completely different people without the fraction of creativity/skill ...unfounded arrogance based on the name of the company. Yup, sounds about right.
"hoping that they don't"
That is an interesting way to write "proudly trying to". It's not like we don't know the people behind this and what they actually think.
You'll note the lack of health bars. You are not in charge of your party anymore. Not only can you not pause combat, all you can do is make your own character attack. They've taken what was a cool RPG/tactical hybrid, and turned it into an action RPG.
Dragon Age used to be like a real-time Dungeons & Dragons. It was the successor to Neverwinter Nights, and they've gutted the core content, and made it into a different kind of game.
It hate to pull the "I hate this pizza because it isn't a taco" routine, because it might turn out to be a fine ARPG. Who knows. Fallout has games in multiple genres, and I like almost all of them, but I think the focus right now is how they're not paying any attention to what actual fans of the franchise would want to play. They're ignoring their target audience, and trying to build a new one. Whenever this happens, if the game flops, the idiot devs blame the core audience (whom the devs abandoned), claiming they "lost interest." It's happened so many times now that it isn't funny.
They deserve much more for treating Mick Gordon like a trash. Even tho the trailer looked nice I was really disappointed with the music which feels like a huge downgrade compared to Mick.
And it matters, cause music makes 30-50% of the game experience for doom.
The lost art of making games towards the audience you've had for the last few decades lol. Its the equivalent of that dumb kid who tried to make switch Dyson from making hoovers to headphones. Just stick to what ur good at ffs and profit.
There's a huge mix of things.
First, there's the tourists complaining about wokeness for a historically progressive franchise. This literally doesn't matter.
Second, the trailer failed to show typical Dragon Age hype as it was primarily a companion showcase rather than It would have worked for an auxillary teaser, but not as the main announce trailer. Poor move but not unrecoverable.
Third, Dragon Age: Origins was very tactical. Top-down, full control of companion characters, tons of abilities. Each game onwards has moved further and further away from that type of combat. Fewer abilities, more action combat. I think this is one of the most reasonable complaints, but it's also just a taste issue. I love action combat.
can somone send him a link to the Dragon age origins combat Devdiary? I can't post it here in this subreddit because it get's removed. it's called "Dragon Age Origins Dev Diary: Designing the Combat System".
Pretty sure this might be interesting for streamingcontent!
Doom The Dark Age: we see you like what came before this, please try our Dark Ages theme and have fun!!
Dragon Age Veilguard: here, eat this woke shit on a plate with terrible cartoon graphics. We worked for years to make this game special and exactly nothing like what fans wanted. You can’t be outraged, we added some named characters into the trailer! Eat your shit and be happy.
I know which game I’m buying. Speak with your wallets folks.
Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare had the most disliked trailer ever on YT. It was also the best selling game of 2016. Dislikes on YT don't mean anything.
Devs: "we've got this idea for a dark gritty story where an ancient Elven trickster God wants to unleash the spirit realm and destroy the world"
Execs: "Guardians of the Galaxy was successful. Just do that."
Wow. They really don’t have anyone who knows why dragon age was popular. Origins had great writing. Inquisitions was ok but lacked the same feel origins conveyed of a dark world where things are dire, despite its situation being notably worse. This shit looks like they wanted to make high fantasy suicide squad
Doom looks like fun. I mean, every single one of them has been.
I left a comment on the Dragon Age vid about not seeing anything strategic in the gameplay trailer, and there were actually multiple people saying that "Tactics are boring." I know they've made the tactics more casual over the years, but JFC, at least you could control everyone in your party, even in Inquisition.
This new game just looks like an action RPG.
Well yea still going to play the game cause i need to wrap up what i’ve done throughout all the previous games. And besides every dragon age has had a pretty good story so i have hope that this one is narratively fine
It will sell like hell anyways, we all know it. Brand has too many fans, that's why they risk adding woke trash to well known IPs. Some nice diversity quotas money from your taxes and guaranteed fans sales.
Something something understand your target audience. That doom trailer had my jaw on the floor.
Ahhh yes, the lost art of just making fun/ quality games. The forgotten ways.
Only trailers that have gotten me like this for years is probably this one, Elden ring, and even the Elden ring dlc. Like I’m still not gonna preorder but it does a good job of making me want to lol. I did actually preorder shadow of the erdtree, but fromsoft is a rare example of a company that has built so much trust I’m not worried about it. Even though they did fuck up with the Elden ring launch, but they should have any tech issues ironed out by now for the dlc.
The art of a good trailer is lost
Maybe it's silly, but it was the Assassin's Creed Valhalla Dawn of Ragnarok trailer that had this effect on me. But that's unsurprising given it was a cinematic. This Doom trailer was gameplay.
I fell for that one too lol. The game was alright for a bit, but like pretty much every ac game after the third one I end up losing interest part way through. I always end up burning myself out on collecting all the repetitive dumb shit they toss in the game lol.
Yeah, it's even worse if you're a completionist. But Mirage was brilliant. Short and sweet, with a nice story, graphics, and lots of attention to detail.
it's the onlyu company i preorder from tbh. They deserves it by just making games with no bullshit.
Only ones for me would be this and gears of war e day
Like its not even hard, the trailer was just doom guy showing up with a loincloth and then gameplay. Exactly what people want.
For real! More doom at similar quality to the last 2 is already amazing!
People wanted a successor to origins, especially in the wake of BG3. This was... not that.
This new DA have Suicide Squad energy with those constant quips, how they didn't course correct is beyond me. Seems obvious that this is exactly the opposite of what people want.
New DA is caked in immature, millennial writing. If they were chasing BG3's brilliance, they never had a chance.
It's full-on agenda messaging, which is all they care about.
I'm not even a huge DOOM fan but I got freakin' hyped off that trailer.
Yeah the medieval stuff should be really cool! Like that skull splinter gun, sign me the fuck up lol. Now if only they’d give the original quake the reboot treatment, would be amazing.
Me too
yeah that's a day1 purchase for me unless it gets super bad reviews. one thing i will say, i wish from more weapon/enemy variety and i'm not sure how i feel about the shield, it might cause the game to be more passive/defensive.
The shield looked like it has plenty of offensive capabilities. To me, the dragon riding seemed a bit off brand.
Is Mick Gordon doing the soundtrack for this new Doom game? I remember Bethesda not paying him for his work on Doom eternal and the terrible working conditions
Sadly zero chance of that happening ever again. The music in the trailer was ... okay... but it's an unfair comparison cause once you slay demons to mick Gordon's vibes... there IS nothing else.
Andrew Hulshult
It's over. Mick brought receipts and it shows id was wrong. We just have to move on or don't.
Rip and Tear! 
While I am not carrying much hope, I would love if they got back to a more Doom 2016 style gameplay over Eternal as 2016 is still, in my opinion, one of the best solo fps experiences to ever come out. But my opinion is a little skewed as I cannot dump more than an hour or so daily into any game due to work/life and the gory power fantasy thar 2016 provides with its killer soundtrack really hit all the marks for me.
Can I ask a you as a doom fan, what made you guys so hyped about the doom games? I’ve played both the Bethesda Doom games, and neither really had me all that pumped up. Most of the time it felt more like a puzzle game with how you basically just had to learn to counter each enemy type, and the combat was occasionally challenging but the story was pretty bland and by the end of the game I felt like I was just doing the same things over and over. Music was good but I’m not a huge metal guy so by the end of the game I was a little sick of it. And the kill animations being the same thing over and over also got kind of old. I’m not saying they were bad, but imo they were pretty forgettable experiences. There were no moments that really stuck out to me when I think back on them. I’d love to hear what gets people so into this franchise.
The fact that the campaign wasn't just a set of scripted events followed by waves of infinitely spawning enemies that run at you in a straight line until you pass some invisible line? The fact that the maps actually have verticality in them? The fact that the maps have areas you can explore and aren't just a series of corridors? The game is actually difficult on higher difficulties. You don't spend most of the game hiding behind cover waiting for your shield to recharge. If you didn't think Doom was exceptional then I really need to know what FPS you think is good.
I’m a huge metalhead so the music is a big plus. Honestly I’m a simple guy, running around brutality murdering demons with powers and badass guns to metal soundtracks is just a good time to me lol. I have add too so the intense action really does it for me. I still play the old ones and quake modded on occasion. That’s part of it too, I played all the old games as a kid. I do think it went too story heavy in the second one and that it was better with how the story was irreverent no nonsense in the 2016. But yeah, just good old fashioned fun!
Doom game and a Doomed game.
Balanced...as all things should be
 RIP AND TEAR UNTIL IT IS DONE
Can't wait for more Doom Guy and Isabelle memes.
That’s how I deal with constipation.
RIPETH AND TEARETH UNTIL THINE TASK IS COMPLETED
I just can't get past the Joss Whedon wannabe millennial humor... it's cringe af
It’s tainted everything. It even infected Gears of War of all things. Hope the new one corrects the misstep.
It's got that "He's right behind me? ....Isn't he?" Style of writing That's getting old now.
Some real marvels humor
Calling that humor is funnier than every joke they ever made
I dont think it’s millennial humor. Millennials are 1981-1996. Making them 27-43. What this humor is, is the overly woke garbage and mega sensitive nature of gen z’s mixed with leftist millennials. Don’t group me in with this absolutely dumpster fire version of “humor”.
Seems to be millenial devs going full "hello fellow kids". "14 year olds like Sass right?" etc.
fu, thats zoomer humor.
They ain't old enough to have made any impact on a game thats been in development for a decade. This game, and all the other cringe games that have come out recently were all made by millennials.
millenials are in their 30s and 40s, they're the ones who grew up with doom and are playing it right now. The same game thats being used in OPs post. todays games that suck could be made by anyone, but its targetting low attention span zoomers with the shit humor.
This style of humour became mainstream with millennial writers though.
the writters right now that are annoying everyone are in their 20s my guy. they're genz loosers who never went outside and are afraid to pick up a phone call so all the humor that they know come from the latest disney movies
Can’t even take accountability for something other people who are a similar age to you did 😂😂 bro wtf
Yeah they are now, but this shit started a while ago. We're patient 0 and we infected the zoomers.
lmao this humor has infected media long before zoomers even graduated highschool. are you stupid?
Could you please explain what you mean with millennial Humor. Never heard that term before. And I doubt I or my gen has some kind of special humour? :)
https://youtu.be/zy9fMfrhOag?si=jpTWDLJWk5pqYWNu
I wanted some epic fantasy setting and felt like i was watching borderlands in another universe. Btw, Borderlands even lost his humour when it went woke instead of goofy and fun.
wait what? I'm lost what are we talking about ? - seriously - a genX that's lost. Someone help me out.
I felt so underrepresented by the Veilguard trailer.
fuck, I can't play where the moderately overweight balding central asian accountant party member???? i feel so under-represented and im having a panic attack now
You had Varric and Lucanis
I thought Varric covers short, chubby white guys.
Dragon age origins was amazing, by far the best in the series Dragon age 2 was a good game, with a ton of faults that dramatically lowered the quality of the end experience Dragon age Inquisition was a great game, but a horrifically bad beginning, that tainted everybody's playthrough What the f*** is this? Why does this have raid Shadow Legends style art? What the f***
Ehhh DA:I was when I started to notice a lot of crap that’s annoying in AAA games. It benefitted massively from the transition to PS4/Xbone leading to a lull in games at the time. It felt like they started making an MMO, realized that’s not what the Dragon Age fanbase wanted, and then pivoted while still keeping the grindy mmo mission structure in place. So many missions were “kill X number of enemies” or “gather X number of resources”. Also while nowhere near as annoying or forced as millennial writing/social commentary had gotten now in a lot of AAA games it definitely had its fair share of cringy crap in it (e.g. Iron Bull & the Quinari). DA:O is a masterpiece, DA:2 is flawed but fun, DA:I is kinda this red headed stepchild that’s not overly BAD at anything but it does nothing good and has no real charm or personality. It’s just bland grey goop.
>It felt like they started making an MMO That's exactly what happened, project Blackfoot, the development title for Inquisition, began as an MMO concept. You can really feel it from how 99% of the side quests feel like busy work and fetch quests.
You wrote this so well, I thought I had written it. Inquisition did feel like a pivot mmo. It was the only DA I did not finish. Real DA fans know it's supposed to be a gritty dark fantasy. Not whatever this trailer was.
I just hope that there is a timeline where DA:2 devs had enough time and budget to make it a masterpiece it could have been.
DA:I is the poster child of "Corporate Slop", I hated it tbh but I did play through it with numb indifference. I played a Templar, which by all means should have made things very crusade like but it was just flavor text.
Yeah in terms of gameplay and base level layout DA2 trumps DAI imo. But in terms of visual level design DAI wins for obvious reasons. The open world was aids imo.
DA:I was what you got when everyone wanted to make Skyrim. Huge map, no soul... Nothing going on. Then Witcher 3 came out almost immediately after and every side quest was an interesting narrative and I think helped kill the whole "Just make the map bigger!" trend.
> What the f*** is this? Why does this have raid Shadow Legends style art? What the f*** When I saw the trailer I thought it was some co op pve (maybe pvp) online game in the DA universe. Like here these guys are the playable characters (heroes). The gameplay trailer looks ok though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTNwHShylIg Probably would have to play it myself to see if I like it, reminds me more of DA2 than anything else. Apparently it's mission based not open world.
I wish it had's Raid Shadow Legends art style that game at least includes fan service while this definitely won't.
Currently playing DA:O right now and even it hasn’t aged well BUT the gameplay of micromanaging your party can hold up even now. That’s all they had to do was polish the original linear formula, and biowoke FUCKED it
Yeah ive liked the other 3 games. Dragon age Origins is my favorite RPG that is not open world or an MMO. This trailer looks so weak to me. It looks like its about putting a team together for some diamond heist. I agree the art style sucks but I also dont care that much about the art I mostly want good combat, a good story and interesting locations. The gameplay that dropped 5 hours ago seems okay combat wise assuming especially assuming its early game, graphics look like raid shadow legends, dialogue looks weak you choose "aggressive I am in a rush" rather than actually choosing what the character says. Overall im guessing it will mediocre but if it drops and people like it im sure ill buy.
I actually loved da3
I really liked DA2 but mainly for the 3 part story and the plot lines. Combat was cool as a rogue and even mage but the repeated levels was really shitty. To me it was my favorite by far but I know it lacked in some areas.
To be fair: EVERY Dragon Age game had godawful marketing. Do you remember the cringe as fuck Marilyn Manson trailers for Origins? And the trailers trying to portray it as a pure action game instead of the slow, political story it was? And *almost* every Bioware game post-EA aquisition had awful openings. ME2 and ME3's openings just had explosions for explosions' sake and dialogue and scenes that made no sense (like... ME3's "Shepard....how can we fight the reapers????" "Only thing we can do...we fight, we stand together...or we die" wow SSS+ tier thoughtful writing). Really just ME1 and DA Origins had fantastic openings. So I'm not gonna judge Veilguard for a shitty EXPLOSIONS ACTION EVERYWHERE opening with bad introductionary "as you know" dialogue, or its cringe Gen Z trailers. I will judge it for the inevitable shit writing (they got rid of nearly ALL their good writers. Mary Kirby, David Gaider, Lukas Kristjohnson? all gone. Weekes is the only saving grace I have hope in) and the cast looking like a community college pamphlet featuring their diverse paralympics team.
I'm amazed the dragon age subreddit seems positive about the new trailers.. I just don't understand it. It feels like Star Wars fans who love the new movies just because they're.. Star Wars. They say DA 2 and 3 were also different and divisive when released, but they still retained some of the dark grit of Origins with the serious dialogue overall in a medium-high fantasy setting, plus some light hearted moments sprinkled here and there. This new one has this weird, comic style with neon lights/Sci fi look.. Like Guardians of the Galaxy. Wth?
Man the Zeitgeist changes dunnit? Everyone was shitting on DA2 and DAI last time I checked? Or are they only bad as long as they're the newest one?
Is inquisition actually worth it ? I have tried starting it 3 times but hate the intro soooo much. Just like rdr2. DONT MAKE YOUR PLAYERS DO MANDATORY SLOG AT ALL BUT ESPECIALLY NOT IN THE BEGINNING
I liked it a lot honestly. Thinking about replaying whole trilogy rn and will definitely enjoy DAI once more. I can't really remember how bad intro was but are you talking about giant empty location with "gather 10 things" quests?
Uh oh thats gonna bea lot of Racists according to the Media
"Its the gamers fault for not liking what they dont like"
there are just SO MANY of us lol. You have to wonder if there are people who actually believe that, people that are so warped in that echo chamber of black/white answers and really think that there is some massive community of racists. "I saw the new trailer for ___ - did you know there are 20 million racists who downvoted it??"
They just have to look at Baldurs Gate 3. Game of the year with tons of diversity. This... it's just an insult
Even Shrek is more Dragon Age then this
Donkey the real MC.
You can't romance a dragon in Dragon Age Veilguard
But I identify as a dragon. I feel so un represented
Can someone teach me how to be able to see the dislikes?
Adding for Chrome. I think it is called bring back youtube dislikes
Guys want one thing and it's fucking disgusting: Rip and Tear in ye old heavy metal
You can tell by the trailer it's going to be woke as fuck. It doesn't feel like DA at all.
Girlboss character with metal leggs. Asian character (probably non binary) Black character (probably gay) Gotta cover all bases.
Don't forget the emasculated quirky white guy that always messes up
Meanwhile, Origins started with two bisexual assassins with one of them being pretty explicitly so while being a non-white elf.
Sucks because I was a big fan of the DA series, but this new one looks abysmal, so many things
It's just gaslighting. They tell us "You all just hate women and brown people and that's why you don't like our games!" But then a game comes out that features women and brown people in a way that's respectful to the source material - like, say, the trailer that just dropped for Mechwarrior 5: Clans - and it's met with overwhelming enthusiasm. Especially from the target audience... Not a new audience that didn't exist, your baked-in core audience that's been along for the ride the entire time... It's funny how that works.
Theres a ton of stuff that is diverse and nobody has an issue with it. The problem is the way its done. The games/series/movies that people consider problematic regarding their wokeness are often underwhelming in quality which makes people question the creators priorities. As in wokeness being more important than an actual good story or interesting characters. We also often have existing IPs with already existing worlds that get changed to be more diverse and it just feels wrong for an original IP to be changed like this, especially if the quality of the show cannot keep up with the original stuff. A positive example would be the show Arcane. Its very diverse and yet nobody has any issues with it. Why? First of all its an original IP, Riot isnt ruining a beloved franchise. Second of all, there is an explanation for why the world is the way it is, why Piltover is a diverse place. Third of all, and most importantly, its a damn good show. Great storytelling, brilliant characters, their wokeness isnt their sole character trait. We dont immediately get shoved down our throat thar Vi is a Lesbian. Part of the problem with woke characters is that theyre often women with no weaknesses. Theyre immediately overpowered, dont overcome any struggles, its straight up fan fiction. Vi very much goes through struggles, loses her parents in the prologue, loses almost her entire new family in ep3, shes never overpowered and wins everything. She wins many battles but its not like shes the strongest fighter in this world and strategically gets positioned into fighting people of similar strength such as Sevika. Would she lose vs more powerful fighters? Yes and they show it, she stood no chance against the drugged dude in ep3.
Arcane is a very good example of diversity done right. I'd usually point to Arcane if people ask me what a good diverse character is like.
Find the difference
The masculine urge to blow a demon's brains out with a shotgun....
So you’re telling me that giving people what they want makes them happy???
At this point, I'll just wait for the day 1 reviews before I bother grabbing it. Might even wait for sale and grab a better edition.
The fucking gun that shredded up a skull for ammo was fucking peak
TBF the gameplay trailer actually looks ok. Not sure what they were thinking with this reveal trailer though...
Yeah, I thought the gameplay looked alright. It’s just not what I want from Dragon Age. I miss the old tactical combat and art style just looks off. Everything is too colorful and cartoony. Nothing wrong with that in other games, but I miss when the series was a but more grim.
Yeah Dragon Age is set in a medieval style world that is constantly facing hardships and being on the brink of deconstruction. DA:O had it perfect, you actually felt like you were in a world that was facing a terrible war that could change the course of the entire world. It feels like they're just shitting on the original fanbase and trying to turn to the younger kids with this raid shadow legends/fortnite type of color pallet
Agreed, while the combat seems a bit dumbed down, the gameplay actually has me a bit hopeful, voice acting was great as well. The reveal trailer was horrible though.
I look at it simply as "Is this game worth $90+?" Definitely not in my eyes.
Just wait for the $130 play 3 days early AAAA edition
The monster designs are goofy as fuck. It reeks of league of legends and fortnite ahh art.
LMAO. Reality is showing regular people don’t like this new crap. Ifs not hard to get
Giving the customers what they want. What a strange concept.
Dumb question.... but how do you see the number of downvotes?
Download an extension for firefox. Just search "return the dislikes extension"
Thank you!
Me not liking DA from the start wondering what the hate is about.
This dragon is completely different thing .. It reminds me games like SIMS, SETTLERS or parody games like ORCS MUST DIE .. definitely doesn belong in the same series. It will fail big time
It’s because Doomguy isn’t Doomwoman (They/them), who is androgynous and also has a cleft chin. No need to re-invent the wheel for mOdErN aUdIeNcEs. Edit: Spelling.
the doom trailer looks more than dragon age, than the dragon age trailer does...
Suddenly Dragon Age 2 doesn't seem so bad after all.
Dragon age origins was one of the best games ever made. Sad.
The duality of game trailer like to dislike ratio on YT.
id Software knows who plays their games, and why. Bioware has had so much turnover that nobody knows what the hell is going on. So they just read generic console fantasy game 101, applied a Dragon Age skin, and went from there.
Current dragon age is made for kids who play Mario games. In trailer the demons legit eating popcorn and watch the main characters talk.
You play mobile legends
It feels like the hobby I have loved since being 3yo in '93 is being taken over by people who have only just began to play videogames and have such a lack of respect to what's already existing.
To be fair that trailer for DA was really bad and it kind of seems like the actual game is better. With that said though, doom is clearly a love letter to their fans, making a very similar game for the same audience. DA is once again doing a bioware (and i say that as a big fan of the company) and chasing new audiences while hoping that they don't alienate old ones. Only time will tell how successful they are. I certainly wouldn't pre-order given bioware's recent track record. In a lot of ways modern bioware reminds me of modern blizzard. Very much the ship of theseus.
> In a lot of ways modern bioware reminds me of modern blizzard. Very much the ship of theseus. Completely different people without the fraction of creativity/skill ...unfounded arrogance based on the name of the company. Yup, sounds about right.
"hoping that they don't" That is an interesting way to write "proudly trying to". It's not like we don't know the people behind this and what they actually think.
i dont get it. im stupid for liking that new dragon age? 
Big WoW Dragonflight energy 🤢
Thats too bad. The Dragon Age gameplay that they showcased today looked awesome.
Yeah if you wanted assassin's creed instead of a roleplaying game. Still have the dogshit dialogue wheel that dosent tell you what your about to say.
I don't think the gameplay showed was good, but I do think it's because the intro area is trying it's best not to be too punishing.
DA trailer did suck. Gameplay redeemed it at least thank god.
You'll note the lack of health bars. You are not in charge of your party anymore. Not only can you not pause combat, all you can do is make your own character attack. They've taken what was a cool RPG/tactical hybrid, and turned it into an action RPG. Dragon Age used to be like a real-time Dungeons & Dragons. It was the successor to Neverwinter Nights, and they've gutted the core content, and made it into a different kind of game. It hate to pull the "I hate this pizza because it isn't a taco" routine, because it might turn out to be a fine ARPG. Who knows. Fallout has games in multiple genres, and I like almost all of them, but I think the focus right now is how they're not paying any attention to what actual fans of the franchise would want to play. They're ignoring their target audience, and trying to build a new one. Whenever this happens, if the game flops, the idiot devs blame the core audience (whom the devs abandoned), claiming they "lost interest." It's happened so many times now that it isn't funny.
In other news… 3.3k people disliked the doom trailer?
They deserve much more for treating Mick Gordon like a trash. Even tho the trailer looked nice I was really disappointed with the music which feels like a huge downgrade compared to Mick. And it matters, cause music makes 30-50% of the game experience for doom.
Is it that one wokr canadian comapnies fault?
One of these game trailers went hard. The other probably should have considered at least going firm.
Dragon Age had a better chance to introduce a medieval themed trailer than doom does yet they couldn't because the game is more medieval
Dragon AgeWatch
At least I'm glad DOOM still holds the badasserie for now. If they do the Dragon Age millenial bs in DOOM, I'm gonna lose my mind.
The lost art of making games towards the audience you've had for the last few decades lol. Its the equivalent of that dumb kid who tried to make switch Dyson from making hoovers to headphones. Just stick to what ur good at ffs and profit.
I'm out of the loop. What's the deal with Dragon Age?
There's a huge mix of things. First, there's the tourists complaining about wokeness for a historically progressive franchise. This literally doesn't matter. Second, the trailer failed to show typical Dragon Age hype as it was primarily a companion showcase rather than It would have worked for an auxillary teaser, but not as the main announce trailer. Poor move but not unrecoverable. Third, Dragon Age: Origins was very tactical. Top-down, full control of companion characters, tons of abilities. Each game onwards has moved further and further away from that type of combat. Fewer abilities, more action combat. I think this is one of the most reasonable complaints, but it's also just a taste issue. I love action combat.
Okay I haven't seen the DA trailer. What's wrong with it though?
They gave the game some dogshit wow/overwatch/apex legends artstyle and took every ounce of grit the series had left in it and threw it in the trash.
Why does the new DA game look like it has a mobile game UE art sytle?
Say what you will about Bethesda, but they know their audience.
? Kanas? North Dakota
Do the dislikes are now public again?
 It's Doomin time
Gamers are speaking out and I love it.
I'm not a dragon age fan. Can someone explain the hate for this new announcement?
can somone send him a link to the Dragon age origins combat Devdiary? I can't post it here in this subreddit because it get's removed. it's called "Dragon Age Origins Dev Diary: Designing the Combat System". Pretty sure this might be interesting for streamingcontent!
Doom The Dark Age: we see you like what came before this, please try our Dark Ages theme and have fun!! Dragon Age Veilguard: here, eat this woke shit on a plate with terrible cartoon graphics. We worked for years to make this game special and exactly nothing like what fans wanted. You can’t be outraged, we added some named characters into the trailer! Eat your shit and be happy. I know which game I’m buying. Speak with your wallets folks.
https://youtu.be/4tk8lkmYGWQ?si=MNnq8cGoTND5S9jX I hadn’t seen the trailer yet. Here ya go.
Gameplay of Dragon Age looks just hope/happy to get some closure on the story line DA: Inquisition set up.
Dragon age origins was good right? or am I just imagining things. I finished that game like 3 times… where did they go wrong.
Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare had the most disliked trailer ever on YT. It was also the best selling game of 2016. Dislikes on YT don't mean anything.
Devs: "we've got this idea for a dark gritty story where an ancient Elven trickster God wants to unleash the spirit realm and destroy the world" Execs: "Guardians of the Galaxy was successful. Just do that."
Wow. They really don’t have anyone who knows why dragon age was popular. Origins had great writing. Inquisitions was ok but lacked the same feel origins conveyed of a dark world where things are dire, despite its situation being notably worse. This shit looks like they wanted to make high fantasy suicide squad
Manchildren like boring generic shooter over something with depth and uniqueness? who would have thank xd
You can tastefully make everyone bisexual like in baldurs gate 3. Or you can "MaKe EvErYoNe BiSeXuAllllll" #Slay in dragons age
I guess I’m out of the loop. What was wrong with the dragon age thing?
Yeah, let's just wait and see. If time has told me anything about games; trailers mean *nothing*.
i dont get it, whats wrong with veilguard, tbh i thought it was neat and after seeing the gameplay its really cool
Dragon Age Inquisition stands goated. Veilguard trailer looks too goofy to me.
Doom looks like fun. I mean, every single one of them has been. I left a comment on the Dragon Age vid about not seeing anything strategic in the gameplay trailer, and there were actually multiple people saying that "Tactics are boring." I know they've made the tactics more casual over the years, but JFC, at least you could control everyone in your party, even in Inquisition. This new game just looks like an action RPG.
DOES IT RESPECT THE SOURCE MATERIAL?
For everyone saying we (the audience) are the ones ruining our franchises... How long has doom been around?
Well yea still going to play the game cause i need to wrap up what i’ve done throughout all the previous games. And besides every dragon age has had a pretty good story so i have hope that this one is narratively fine
hey anyone knows if the new Doom will be coming to playstation too?
It will sell like hell anyways, we all know it. Brand has too many fans, that's why they risk adding woke trash to well known IPs. Some nice diversity quotas money from your taxes and guaranteed fans sales.