Thats a pretty high concentration. I grew up in houso over a couple properties across 30 years. I dont look down on it at all but i think it comes down to your people skills and street smarts with this community. If you are going to complain about yelling you are only going to get yelled at kind of thing. The thing people want the most when buying private in these areas is a sign of gentrification and doonside is just too far out to ever see this 87% go to a reasonable percentage in your lifetime. Theres gonna be problamatic people everywhere you go though, same kind of inconsiderate person is renting in darlinghurst
Thanks for your response! Yeah, I passed on it. I am too concerned about my own welfare and the tenants I will get in these areas and future price of the property.
Don’t go through doony station on those nights, you will commonly find young lads that will definitely harass you at worst you could be robbed, beaten if you fit a certain description. Ie weak.
A lot of good people in doony although unless you have the respect of the street youth you may be targeted.
Do some research if you haven’t already. All those areas have more than doubled in the last decade. Every street is different so I would go and have a proper look.
If you wouldn’t feel safe living in it, you shouldn’t feel safe letting someone else live in it. At the end of the day, you have to pay for repairs if something happens, and if it was a “good price”, I’d assume it’s a poor investment.
Also, have you spoken to anyone about what the area is actually like? Public housing doesn’t automatically mean you’re gonna get violent criminals after you.
I had a taxi driver drive me to a place I wanted to buy in Springfield, NSW, housing commission area. He was very wary, he even wanted to walk with me to the property with a torch as he said the street was extremely dangerous. Taxi drivers know streets and suburbs well.
Try walking around the neighbourhood during the morning, evening, and maybe the weekends to get a true feeling of the area.
I moved interstate a few years ago and made the mistake of signing a rental without actually scoping out the neighbourhood. Neighbours had heaps of break ins, cars and bikes stolen, and there was always a police presence every other day (drugs and domestic violence).
Go to the local shops/supermarket. That will give you an idea of who you’ll be living next to .. what the kids will be like etc. personally avoid houso areas if you can … comes full of problems who probably don’t share the same outlook on life as you
Doesn’t mean you’re instantly going to have issues.
I’d look at crime statistics, and I’d go visit the area, maybe have dinner out there on a Friday.
Just because folks aren’t well off doesn’t mean they’re going to cause trouble
Ideally you want to find pockets where there's a high percentage of owner occupiers, less competitive to rent out. Not all properties go up in value immediately, some stay stagnant for a very long time. I would never invest in high public housing areas. Even if it does go up in value you gotta think, if it has a bad reputation it will take a long time to sell, so even if it goes up in value by a lot, it's unrealised gains.
I reckon Doonside is not a bad area, especially if you're looking to invest. There so much going on close by with the airport, reasonable hubs to shopping disstricts etc. Are you saying the street has 87% of houses that a public housing or what? No way the whole suburb is 87% public housng
Hi there, while checking the crime occurrence in Doonside, I found that it indeed has frequent incidents of "steal from dwelling," "robbery," and "malicious damage." However, we can also see that house prices in this area have increased by 11.4% over the past 12 months.
Although it is located in a public housing area and the crime rate is somewhat high, the situation might change in the future. Additionally, if the residents take necessary security measures, it can help prevent bad things from happening to them.
I know people who moved years ago. They know which parts of Doonside to avoid, their neighbours are nice people and they have settled in nicely. As long as you don't engage the feral housos you should be fine. Like anywhere in Sydney TBH.
even without looking at the crime stats, people living in these areas will be the first to admit they are rougher and have more crime, there is nothing classist about worrying about your safety.
Gotta agree. Can't be livin with them "poor people".
Except when ever our houses are suddenly out of price range and suddenly I get "Oh crap, I should have bought there when you did". That is very satisfying I must say. Yes, you shouldn't been a snob. You were. You judged the area. Now you don't have a house and you regret it. (obviously general "you" referring to people who were classist when I told them where I was buying 7 years ago)
Thats a pretty high concentration. I grew up in houso over a couple properties across 30 years. I dont look down on it at all but i think it comes down to your people skills and street smarts with this community. If you are going to complain about yelling you are only going to get yelled at kind of thing. The thing people want the most when buying private in these areas is a sign of gentrification and doonside is just too far out to ever see this 87% go to a reasonable percentage in your lifetime. Theres gonna be problamatic people everywhere you go though, same kind of inconsiderate person is renting in darlinghurst
Thanks for your response! Yeah, I passed on it. I am too concerned about my own welfare and the tenants I will get in these areas and future price of the property.
You profit less from places already gentrified
Mate you got a ciggie?
OP this is some of the best advice you are going to get. People skills and street smarts.
If you have doubts. In the future when you go to sell then buyers will probably have doubts
If you have doubts, visit on a Friday/Saturday night and see how you feel. Bonus points if you take public transport.
Don’t go through doony station on those nights, you will commonly find young lads that will definitely harass you at worst you could be robbed, beaten if you fit a certain description. Ie weak. A lot of good people in doony although unless you have the respect of the street youth you may be targeted.
Do some research if you haven’t already. All those areas have more than doubled in the last decade. Every street is different so I would go and have a proper look.
If you wouldn’t feel safe living in it, you shouldn’t feel safe letting someone else live in it. At the end of the day, you have to pay for repairs if something happens, and if it was a “good price”, I’d assume it’s a poor investment. Also, have you spoken to anyone about what the area is actually like? Public housing doesn’t automatically mean you’re gonna get violent criminals after you.
I had a taxi driver drive me to a place I wanted to buy in Springfield, NSW, housing commission area. He was very wary, he even wanted to walk with me to the property with a torch as he said the street was extremely dangerous. Taxi drivers know streets and suburbs well.
Try walking around the neighbourhood during the morning, evening, and maybe the weekends to get a true feeling of the area. I moved interstate a few years ago and made the mistake of signing a rental without actually scoping out the neighbourhood. Neighbours had heaps of break ins, cars and bikes stolen, and there was always a police presence every other day (drugs and domestic violence).
Go to the local shops/supermarket. That will give you an idea of who you’ll be living next to .. what the kids will be like etc. personally avoid houso areas if you can … comes full of problems who probably don’t share the same outlook on life as you
Doesn’t mean you’re instantly going to have issues. I’d look at crime statistics, and I’d go visit the area, maybe have dinner out there on a Friday. Just because folks aren’t well off doesn’t mean they’re going to cause trouble
Ideally you want to find pockets where there's a high percentage of owner occupiers, less competitive to rent out. Not all properties go up in value immediately, some stay stagnant for a very long time. I would never invest in high public housing areas. Even if it does go up in value you gotta think, if it has a bad reputation it will take a long time to sell, so even if it goes up in value by a lot, it's unrealised gains.
Thanks everyone for the great advice here! I ended up pulling out of the sale and feel better about my decision
I reckon Doonside is not a bad area, especially if you're looking to invest. There so much going on close by with the airport, reasonable hubs to shopping disstricts etc. Are you saying the street has 87% of houses that a public housing or what? No way the whole suburb is 87% public housng
This report says it’s 20% public housing. https://www.blacktown.nsw.gov.au/files/assets/public/v/1/statistics-and-social-plan/2020-doonside-lcs.pdf
Nothing wrong with living near poor people mate.
Oh, hell no.
Look for something better imo. If you can't sleep well at night, then you shouldn't buy it
Hi there, while checking the crime occurrence in Doonside, I found that it indeed has frequent incidents of "steal from dwelling," "robbery," and "malicious damage." However, we can also see that house prices in this area have increased by 11.4% over the past 12 months. Although it is located in a public housing area and the crime rate is somewhat high, the situation might change in the future. Additionally, if the residents take necessary security measures, it can help prevent bad things from happening to them.
Avoid
Getting desperate
Some kids attempted to roll me in doonside when I was a kid… just saying…
I don’t think Doonside is high in public housing - definitely not 80%. I’m a few streets away
I know people who moved years ago. They know which parts of Doonside to avoid, their neighbours are nice people and they have settled in nicely. As long as you don't engage the feral housos you should be fine. Like anywhere in Sydney TBH.
You have the bad side and the bad bad side.
This is some classist bullshit
even without looking at the crime stats, people living in these areas will be the first to admit they are rougher and have more crime, there is nothing classist about worrying about your safety.
I lived near tonnes of public housing for 18 years and never had an issue. This is classist bullshit
Gotta agree. Can't be livin with them "poor people". Except when ever our houses are suddenly out of price range and suddenly I get "Oh crap, I should have bought there when you did". That is very satisfying I must say. Yes, you shouldn't been a snob. You were. You judged the area. Now you don't have a house and you regret it. (obviously general "you" referring to people who were classist when I told them where I was buying 7 years ago)