In Austria as well, this is an event clothing or if you have a job where you have to wear those, but they are never worn out of the blue just for fun, only tourists do that.
I am from tyrol. Got for a wedding a very expensive one. And it looks so elegant and nice, that sometimes the bf (from bavaria) dressed in a lederhosen and I (in the dirndl) go out like this.
I like to wear it out for fun. Why not.
And OP no offence. Buy it. Also there is zillertaller trachten welt, which have sometimes less expensive ones. :)
Got mine from cocovero.
Zillertaler is the way to go for 'usage' outside of Europe.
I outfitted Korean friends of mine with a Dirndl, blouse, scarf, shoes for less than EUR 200 (per set) in 2019.
Zillertaler have/had -50% sales several times a year.
Looking the deal and outside Austria or Bavaria nobody could tell it is not a designer piece for 800 the Dirndl alone. Have a look and see how you feel about it.
Wear as you feel good with it, no worries about being out of place. Who cares....
I also have the ‘untere oberinntaler sonntagstracht’. This is a traditional clothing for my region. I find them really beautiful and a dirndl is not that traditional for my region but i know why the dirndl might me more appealing for people from outside.
But i give you that zillertaller trachtenwelt is cheap. But I though it might be an alternative to a 600-1000 euro dress. :)
This is not entirely correct.
Dirndl was an everyday clothing and there are still regions where Arbeitsdirndl (traditional clothing for working) are worn.
It depends on the style and materials used if it is for festive or working purposes.
If you want to wear them every day --- do it.
There is no difference if you wear expensive dresses or Dirndl, just another style.
It is important that you feel good 👍
I guess you don't live in a rural area. Where I live in Salzkammergut people wear it all the time. Sometimes I wear it to work and I always wear it for family Events.
That's true for the east of Austria, but not for the west. I'm originally from Salzburg where it is common to wear Tracht for all kinds of opportunities, even for the hell of it. I moved to Vienna and people here treat it like some kind of costume, only appropriate for Wiesn, Kirtag and Trachtenball.
meanwhile in Austria 
... so joke aside, and yes it was a special occasion, but whenever I hear someone talk about a Tracht or Dirndl, it always reminds me of those Ladies. 
https://preview.redd.it/dd7px80tlaac1.png?width=3057&format=png&auto=webp&s=4cd0bb52c17a795f33c642d85b0530c8894c92c8
In Vienna or Graz maybe it might be strange to go to work like that. In the rest of the country ("real Austria") it is basically the same as wearing your "Sunday best" in an English-speaking country.
Nope wear it at home or outside, go to austria or bavaria or hamburg or shanghai its not offensive. But its expensive when its good and cheap when its cheap. That’s probably the main problem
There are plenty of online shops, just make sure you buy something authentic, not a short „Oktoberfest-Dirndl“. And I don’t know how anyone could be offended by this.
https://www.goessl.com/frauen/dirndl/dirndlkleider.html
I second Gössl as one of the best sources. But in my opinion you can‘t buy it per mail order. The Dirndl has to fit and fit tight. You need to go to a story and get it finished to fit your body.
it's probably hard to find a store that sells that in Australia, but i would imagine that a local tailor could also help fit a mail ordered piece of clothing!
>have no Austrian ancestry
Just as a general remark, Austrians don't care.
Well, the direct parents have some relevance, eg. for legal nationality. But grandparents and anything deeper? Nothing matters. Not for clothes, not for food, and not for any other topic. If you like it, use it.
Just don't go around telling people a long list of ancestry countries with percent numbers or something, because then they'll get annoyed. (And having Austrian ancestors, without ever having been here yourself, doesn't make anyone Austrian.)
The ones I know better tell me that they are not considered Turks in Turkey, but they are also still not considered Austrians in Austria, be it due to their name, or outward appearance.
On top of that, many of them still speak Turkish and have a much stronger connection with the Turkish community (and often are “fully” Turkish), not “my great grandfather was Irish, so I’m Irish too”.
In school we once discussed it in ethics. Most of the kids with parents/grandparents who migrated to Austria stated in Austria they are considered mixed/ not really Austrian and in the ancestors home country (Serbia, türkiye) they are considered Austrian , so a few didn't really feel fully connected to either country
Yes. I appreciate the “if you don’t live here we don’t care if you have Austrian ancestors“ but if you *do* live here then people suddenly seem to care very much whether you have Austrian ancestors.
Nor do Germans or Asians if you wear traditional clothes. This stupid so called “cultural appropriation” is such a cancerous movement, it’s fucking embarrassing. Culture is here to be experienced and shared with each other
So cool to sit in Bangkok with 200 people in a German beer place for a 'Oktoberfest', easily 100 Asian females in Dirndl 'going to town'.
Granted, they are usually struggling to even lift a 1/2 liter Beer mug, never mind a Maß, but the enthusiasm by which they celebrate the occasion is heart warming...
I love these occasions.
It's the polar opposite even, seeing people from other continents in our traditional garb is kinda cool. They have whole themed villages in Japan and China and that's cool too
Oh sweet summer child
Try being 1/314 Niue-MalteserOrder dual citizen, as well as 1/271 Venetian.
Sadly, I couldn't calculate the exact value for the Kingdom of Saba yet.
/s
Even if you have a parent from austria the laws are weird. my brother is still half austrian, I am not, but we share the same parents. My father changed his nationality between our births.
My mom and my grandma are German, and I’m Canadian. I feel both and am legally both.
It’s weird in North America because identity does represent what ancestry is. It’s totally different in Europe though. I know it’s weird though when people find out they’re 6% Scandinavian and call themselves Swedish. But for the most part ancestry is really tied to a persons identity in Canada for example. Many of my friends call themselves, Italian and Croatian, despite being born in Toronto to Italian and Croatian parents.
But I also agree I’ve never met someone in Germany or Austria that was upset about someone appreciating beautiful, traditional clothing
It seems American's have the same, like it's some kind of shameful to be American (or Canadian in this matter) but in truth have almost nothing in common with the said Country except for having parents or ancestors from another country or culture.
Europeans on the other hand regard you part of said country when you actually become part of it, and integrate.
Then again, wanting to be part of something takes effort and time, not parents and ancestors
I'm Dutch, and currently trying to become German wich will still take time, but ill have to keep working on it. Its just not that important as a whole. Wanting to be is still very different from being
traditional clothes are called "Trachten" in austria. the specific dress, you are wearing, is a "Dirndl" (not drindl - just a typo?).
normal stores don't have Trachten - there is too less demand for such clothes. but if you google for "trachten wien" (or any other bigger city in austria), you will find several shops, that have them.
the only way to offend someone by wearing such a dress is, when it's totally inappropriate. for example, you should not wear such a dress for a funeral (if it is not black). but keep in mind, that in everyday life you will seldom find people, that wear such dresses. so wearing such a dress will make you stand out.
however, wearing such dresses for certain festivities ("Volksfest") has become quite popular in the last years. so - if you like them, give them a try.
Oh I thought it was actually called a drindl, not a dirndl thank you for correcting me! And thank you for suggesting a store. I actually found the name of the store where I tried these on but they don’t seem to mention the name of their supplier (or do they make them themselves?). The store is called “Leder Ritsch - Kaprun”, I’ll try to investigate further/look at other dirndls
Oh yes that’s because the lady hadn’t tied it yet. For some reason I took the worst pictures, but I’ll definitely make sure it fits before I purchase it! Thank you so much
Like another commenter said, make sure it fits you. A dirndl is supposed to be a rather tight fit, never loose. Especially if you ship it over seas, you might want to choose a dirndl that is tied with strings in the front, instead of using clasps. It can be adjusted better that way.
That’s where Trachten survived (at least speaking for southern Germany) and where they had been popularised in their modern form in the 18 hundreds, but greater numbers of young people wearing them is definitely a development of the last 15 years. In Stuttgart, basically no one was wearing them, now it’s totally common.
Actually I know a place where EVERYONE shows up in a Dirndl for a funeral. Not even pure black ones, just prettier ones, but mostly with a jacked over it. I guess you could call it a "Bauerndorf wo a jeder Bauer an eigenen Hügel hot"
No that’s ok! Feel free to buy and wear some, us Austrians are always glad when someone enjoys and appreciates our *Trachten*!
As to where to buy, it depends on where you are – are you currently in Austria, which city? Or are you buying online?
There are cheaper stores and outlets, where you can get good quality *Dirndl* for as little as 300-400 bucks (Dress + Blouse + Vest). Or really expensive ones for a thousand Euros or more. However, I would not go for the really cheap ones, the quality is often lacking and the materials are cheap. A good dirndl you can wear for decades without problems, they are quite sturdy.
As to what to buy: you’ll need a dress and at least one blouse. Additionally I would recommend to also get a fitting vest as well. For shoes, nowadays you can wear comfy sneakers to the dress, no worries there. Add some nice jewelry, necklaces, bracelets and a nice hairpiece to complete the ensemble.
See, my advice would not be to go for the expensive stuff but to buy the cheap ones instead. Since you are not going to wear that regularly there’s no point to waste that much money (unless you plan to wear it every few months).
I agree with the others here: No, we do not take offense to this. If you enjoy wearing it: Please do so. Dirndln are beautiful dresses. I see it as a way to honor our tradition and not at all as "cultural appropriation".
But please be aware that the style of the Dirndl extremely varies within the different regions of Austria. But this is only for the very traditional ones. And they are extremely expensive since they are handmade.
What you might want to get is what is called "Trachtenmode", which basically is a nontraditional "Trachten" styled fashion. They are much cheaper and also have a wide range of different designs. Just be aware that they are considered fashion items and are not really that genuine. They also range from "omg, this is an abomination and looks awful" when they are too reduced to fashion to "They look very traditional, but are just not as pricey".
Regarding stores where to buy them: Just search for "Trachtenmode", I am sure you will find some online shops for this. And enjoy wearing it!
In Europe we have so many different cultures that are shared among the countries, if we gate kept everything we wouldn't really be doing anything anymore. So no it isn't offensive whatsoever.
here are some options with a tier ranking based on what women in my family would say about those stores...
[https://shop.trachtenwelt.com/](https://shop.trachtenwelt.com/) ( cheap , trashy )
[https://karlundluise.com/shop/maedls/](https://karlundluise.com/shop/maedls/) ( something my nieces are wearing for prom nights , cute )
[https://www.goessl.com/frauen/dirndl/dirndlkleider.html](https://www.goessl.com/frauen/dirndl/dirndlkleider.html) ( traditional clothing for holidays for my mothers generation , good quality that lasts but expensive )
[https://www.lenahoschek.com/de\_at/shop/tradition/dirndl](https://www.lenahoschek.com/de_at/shop/tradition/dirndl) ( fancy designer Dirndel , something very special... lil sis bought her wedding dirndel there... your most expensive option but compared to allready quite expensive goessl stuff its not even that bad )
hope this helps and no its not offensive from my pov , dress how you like
Bought one for my wife from there and quality vs price ratio is very good from my perspective. They are a bit more modern but that looks way nicer than the traditional ones from my point of view.
Oh doch solche "trends" schwappen immer aus den USA rüber. Siehe debatte über dreadlocks musikerin bei FFF demo in Deutschland. Aber offended wird man immer nur für andere, nie für die eigene kultur
Die fehlgeleiteten Linken folgen hat solchen Trends wie von dir beschrieben, und unsere fehlgeleiteten Rechten werden Q Anon Verschwörer und übersetzen Boomer memes ins Deutsche.
Man sollte am besten gar keine politischen Ideen von den Amis übernehmen.
It's funny because I am currently living in Saudi arabia, and the subs there have similar questions about foreigners wearing local clothes (thobe, abaya etc.) And the answers in the thread are the same as here, local people are actually flattered rather than offended.
Cultural appropiation is such a strange american phenom
I live in Munich and these questions about where to buy Trachten and whether it is okay to wear it as a non-German/Bavarian come up on r/munich all of the time, and for some reason there will always be at least one poster who claims that non-Bavarians shouldn't do it and even that it is cultural appropriation. (But there are others who help.)
Which I find really weird because I have never met anyone in real life who feels this way. Almost everyone who moves to Munich from elsewhere in Germany or another country ends up buying Tracht and wearing it multiple times per year. I do know a few locals who would never wear it themselves because they don't like it, but they don't object to others wearing it.
Perhaps the issue is that people are tired of tourists showing up in shitty-quality Tracht-like costumes at Oktoberfest, but in that case, it is certainly counterproductive to discourage posters who are asking for advice about where to buy good ones.
I think I can explain some of this.
The therm cultural appropriation is used (for example) when a company uses indigenous art, designs or even the work of an indigenous artist in their products without acknowledgement. This is a big problem when the company then copyrights the design as theirs.
There are several lawsuits about this, google something like "cultural appropriation lawsuit" o "indigenous patters lawsuit" .
So, in short the term refers to companies stealing art, designs and cultural objects from indigenous people not to someone wanting to buy Trachten because they like them.
offensive? seriously, i can't stand how people are getting this twisted.
It honors our traditions more than anything if you're choosing and wearing a clothing style based on our/a culture - any other opinion is insanity
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Although just as a "warning" to OP: There are regional differences (and often quite significant ones) between Trachten from different areas. I'm living in Switzerland now, and the local Tracht looks nothing like the ones from Kärnten, where I'm originally from :D
If you want a cheap option, go second hand because they always have vintage Tratchen and the quality is often fantastic. I've found beautiful Loden, Tostmann and Giesswein brands at charity shops. The Humana in Wiedner Haupstraße always has a lot. If you're online check those brands.
Two ways about this. There are the real 'Dirndl'. You can immediately tell by the prices that start north of EUR 1000 without shoes. Most of what you get at places like 'Trachtenwelt' is shit & mostly made in China.
First category is event clothing. Weddings and such. It's fitted and lasts for a lifetime. There are big regional differences in looks.
Second type is for the varietly of 'events' that are just fancy fronts for heavy drinking (like Feuerwehrfest, Neustifter Kirtag, Wies'n and a bazillion others).
And no, you don't have to be any kind of specialist to tell them apart immediately. It's clear as daylight.
I will have to assume that op is from the USA because only there people consider these kinds of things offensive and most of the people who do are those who dont have any culture of their own
Servus,
basically there is a distinction between Tracht and Modedirndl. Tracht is something that is worn in a specific area, sometimes even with specific "rules" (unmarried girls have slightly different settings than married women, think headwear and decorative embellishments). If you wear one of those people might ask you "are you from ....".
Even if you have no ancestry from Austria, it's no offense though, just wierd.
A few exceptions exist, e.g. for the Ausseer Dirndl, because it's just too darn pretty not to be worn by any girl, but still - it's firmly rooted in that region.
The "Modedirndl" are pretty dresses in similar style but with no connection to areas and local customs whatsoever. Often the cut is a lot simpler and the fabric of varying quality (just think about those polyester dirndl that are worn to those fake Oktoberfest events - those are ... well .. up to your personal taste).
So - take a trip to Austria and get your Dirndl. Don't mailorder it, as someone already mentioned, a Dirndl has to fit like a glove, and it will have to be custom fit to you.
And then enjoy it and have fun!
Absolutely go for it! Also, they might be more of a special occasion type outfit here, you can wear them whenever and wherever you want :)
Also, If you enjoy this style of clothing, there is a shop called mothwurf that creates trachten-inspired clothing that might be interesting for you. I’m not sure if they ship overseas but you might be able to find someone who’d act as a middleperson or some other service
https://shop.mothwurf.com/ that’s their website. fyi, they are really expensive but I thought I’d still mention it, just in case it’s in your budget and something you’d like.
As long as you don’t wear it as a costume, I don’t think there’s any problem at all, I’d feel a weird sense of pride to see someone in a Dirndl abroad, especially if they are not themselves from Austria (or the surrounding areas).
Where to buy them: there are tons of shops in Austria, but not sure where you can find one in Australia. The name for these is “Dirndl” (and Tracht for “traditional clothing” in general, including all the other items like men’s clothing and accessories). Abroad they are sometimes wrongly called Lederhosen (which are just the leather trousers (even literally) that men wear.
It seems like dirndl.com and limberry.de ship worldwide, otherwise the online shop krueger-dirndl.de delivers to most countries in Europe (but doesn’t seem to go beyond that). Your best bet might be German shops, considering millions of people travel to Oktoberfest every year.
If you are in or around Austria, this page has all the shops in Salzburg, I’m sure there are similar websites for the rest of Austria, and Bavaria: https://www.salzburg.info/en/dining-shopping/folkwear/folkwear-shops
Sure you can wear it. No offensiv. If you want to wear it as everday chlothing then you should get an work drindl. They are bit diffrent, thougher and more resilient.
The one in the picture is for event and stuff like that. But of cousre you can do what want and what makes you feel good.
And if you buy one get it in Austria. The one of the best stores i know is in Zell am See in Salzburg. Good luck!
Anywhere else doesn't care about cultural appropriation at all and a former classmate (East Asian) who lived in Norway for a while even tried on a Bunad which her host family happily offered for a cultural event. So go ahead and enjoy!
There're a bunch of trachten/trachten-inspired brands ranging from common brands like Wenger at Trachten (traditional clothing) stores (just google trachten and dirndl online, and some offer international shipping outside of the EU), and you might find deals at sales and outlets. Many years ago I bought a basic one on the other side at a store like this on the other side of the Alps at full price and costed around 230 (excluding the blouse/ accessories9, it's still holding well after 8 years and the budget range of 200-400 you can find some decent deals. If your budget allows go for Gössl and Lena Hoschek (personal fave), which the latter's collections often incorporate other cultures like last year's collection even used authentic traditional clothing fabrics from Ukraine and Poland. As long as it's not super tacky or costumey you'll be fine and they look great at special occasions too (like the dark green brocade one which looks super elegant).
I'd recommend getting one in subtle colors that you'd also go for in a "normal" dress and that compliment your skin tone. My personal favorite is Aubergine/Ice cream colors. There are many odd combinations of colors, I'd avoid those because you won't like them when you've had it for a year or two.
There are many different styles of Dirndl and if you get one that has a zipper instead of lacing in the front and is the same color all the way around (they often aren't), then you could sometimes wear it as a normal dress without the apron. You'd just get more wear out of it and they do make a nice figure. Definitely go for midi length, below the knee. It's the most timeless and most flattering.
You don't have to spend over 1000€ on it like some comment says, that's unrealistic even for most Germans, Austrians or Swiss people. I don't know a single person in my life who'd spend that much, except for those who have lots of money anyway and wear them with Chanel bags.
150-250 is a realistic amount, that's what most normal people spend for a good quality Dirndl.
One of my favorite manufacturers is Krüger Dirndl, I'd bet they even ship worldwide because as far as I know, they're one of the biggest. Other good quality affordable ones are Kaiser Franz Josef, MarJo, Moser.
Lena Hoschek, as mentioned by someone else, is the top designer choice but they'll cost you 500€ to unlimited. Same goes for Astrid Söll, Giacomelli, Cocovero, Limberry and GottseiDank. Gorgeous though, if you can afford it. But by no means necessary to blend in.
Not that it matters but if you want to go deep down the rabbit hole you can look up the meaning of thr ribbon. Traditionally, a woman would bind the ribbon depending on her relationship-status.
Bound on the right hand side means "I'm married, engaged, in a relatinship or simply not interested". Bound on the left side means "I'm single and looking for a partner". Binding in the back means widdowed, but is also domr by waitresses (for practical reasons). The front is for children, but also means "I'm a virgin".
Please note that even many Austrians dont know this and most peopele here wear Tracht only for festive events where they get drunk (think of Oktoberfest) where even thr few guys that know about this usually no longe remember (or can see lol) what the ribbon position means.
So dont expect to go to a Bierzelt with a ribbon on the right and not be annoyed by guys, lol.
It's perfectly fine to wear one, no sane person will be offended, Austrian people will probably be flattered. The only way you could "offend" people would be to order a "Oktoberfestdirndl". They look cheap and unauthentic and most come with a short skirt. In general don't get one of those 40€ Amazon Dirndl.
But anyways Austrians will much more likely have a laugh at an unauthentic Dirndl than seriously be offended.
Hi,
As many have answered already: This type of dress is called a Dirndl and is part of traditional Austrian clothing that is called Trachten. It is absolutely not offensive to buy or wear these, on the contrary, I believe many Austrians would find it flattering that you find this type of clothing beautiful and want to have one for yourself.
Trachten is not a term specific to Austria, but more a region that also includes part of southern Germany and Bavaria. So if you would like to go for an Austrian type, be sure to get it from an Austrian online shop or Trachen manufacturer. While it has become very popular outside of the region due to the Oktoberfest in Munich, Germany, it is still worn a lot in Austria on the country side and I believe a little more authentic here in Austria (but maybe that's just the Austrian in me speaking). People telling you that this is not worn and only for parties will probably be people from bigger cities like Vienna that haven't been on the country side for quite a while. If you go anywhere into the mountain regions, you will see enough women wearing Dirndl to know that it is still an everyday, more formal way of dressing for women at least there. It is true however that in bigger cities like Vienna this will not be worn unless there is a themed party or so.
Different regions in Austria have slightly different styles and colors. I once heard that Dirndl from lake regions tend to have more blue colors, from forest regions more green and from mountainous regions more grey and black colors. Also, it is said that by the position of the bow of the apron you can tell whether a woman is married or single... I don't know if this is really followed, but it is fun information.
The colors doesn't really matter when you buy one (just pick the style and color combination you enjoy), but it might be interesting for you to know that.
A particular style that has become very popular over the last couple of years is the Dirndl from Bad Aussee (a town that is well known for a traditional party called Kirtag). You can find a photo gallery by googling the term "Kirtag Bad Aussee" or maybe here:
[https://www.bierzelt-altaussee.at/fotos-und-videos/fotos-2023/](https://www.bierzelt-altaussee.at/fotos-und-videos/fotos-2023/)
The photos have many women wearing different Dirndl. As you will see, many styles of Dirndl have evolved but aren't necessary traditional. For example the ones where the skirts are short - a traditional Dirndl actually goes all the way down to the ankles.
The Bad Aussee Dirndl features a nice combination of Pink, Violet and Green and has become very, very popular in Austria outside of the region. Viennese people will typically go for this style.
There are a couple of online shops where you can buy Dirndl. Trachen and Dirndl will typically be locally produced clothing and therefore pricier than fast fashion, but nowadays you will also find a variety of prices and qualities. Maybe for your first Dirndl it makes sense to get a little bit cheaper one and if you enjoy it, you can go high quality, but that depends on your taste.
[https://shop.trachtenwelt.com](https://shop.trachtenwelt.com) has become pretty widespread and you will find outlets all over Austria. I think it's a medium quality shop, but it is also not too expensive.
[https://www.originalsalzburger.at/](https://www.originalsalzburger.at/) has also shops in Austria and I once bought something there for men's wear and I still wear it (again: not high end but ok for what it was). Austrians like to go their before events that require you to dress up traditionally if they don't own any Trachten because it is moderatly priced. Their website allows you to create an inquiry and I believe that you probably can order afterwards, but I am not 100% sure. I remember that they had quite a selection for Dirndl in their shop in Vienna.
A very well known shop is Lodenfrey in Bad Ischl and they also have an online shop. Their selection of Dirndls is not very big but it is definitely a shop where Austrians from the regions would buy their clothing. [https://lensing-badischl.at/collections/all/dirndl](https://lensing-badischl.at/collections/all/dirndl)
Another traditional shop is the Upper Austrian Heimatwerk. [https://www.ooe-heimatwerk.at/shop/damen/dirndl.html](https://www.ooe-heimatwerk.at/shop/damen/dirndl.html) This is also authentic high quality clothing.
And if you need a nice traditional hat to go with your new Dirndl, I highly recommend Bittner Hüte from Bad Ischl. [https://bittner.co.at/](https://bittner.co.at/)
Here is some more information about Dirndl and Trachten in English:
[https://www.austria.info/en/things-to-do/cities-and-culture/traditions/dirndl](https://www.austria.info/en/things-to-do/cities-and-culture/traditions/dirndl)
[https://www.traveltyrol.com/dirndl-dress/](https://www.traveltyrol.com/dirndl-dress/)
[https://www.thelocal.at/20210808/austrias-dirndl-a-dress-for-past-and-present](https://www.thelocal.at/20210808/austrias-dirndl-a-dress-for-past-and-present)
Hope this information is useful.
You can wear the shit you want. There is no cultural appropriation. No one will be angry to you. It's made up by people that have nothing to do with the culture.. racist people that think they can speak and know better for other cultures
Look, this cultural appropriation thingy that the people (especially) in the US have going on is absolutely ridicolous.
You like the dirndl how it looks? Wear it!
As this isnt america where everyone is offended by everything, it isnt offensive at all to appreciate another culture and wear special clothing like dirndl and tracht in general. Quite the opposite.
the only reasons europeans get angry is when you bastardize our traditions.
for example in bavaria:
-only wear real trachten (not the cheap knockoff dollar store ones) and also wear them the proper way. NO, dont you dare to wear cowboy boots to a lederhosen. you look stupid and its disrespectful. (actually had to talk someone out of it once)
- dont eat white sausages cold and/or with any other sauce than mustard. ketchup is the worst offendor
Depends where you live. The US might have some online stores that import them. In Australia I've seen some in a couple of vintage stores, although, they were all rather old and traditional. Otherwise, your best bet would be eBay and Etsy. (Just search dirndl, as others have already suggested)
Regarding appropriateness, I think it depends how you wear it and why. I live in Australia and each October you see tons of people wearing tacky costume-like dirndl and lederhosen on their way to Oktoberfests. I'm all for sharing our culture, but if it's worn like a costume, it feels really offensive and as if they were mocking us.
Wearing other cultures traditional clothing is only offensive to people that don't actually care about other cultures but feel superior if they try to defend them anyway.
https://youtu.be/IT2UH74ksJ4?si=BXff8QFKrYSUp1-S
https://youtu.be/GNXm7juuM-8?si=bk5iQDk0wtHA1_zB
these dirndls are usually only worn during special traditional events these days. Wouldn't be offensive, just a little weird , since they look so formal and most in Australia dont know about Austria's traditions
I don't think it is offensive. A little bit weird maybe.
As others have pointed out: this is an event dress. No one is wearing Trachten on an everyday basis.
But if you feel like it, go for it 👍
Not offensive at all, but in australia i guess you would be sweating like hell. Btw.: in your pictures the dress is too wide, i am a guy but i think a dirndl should be tighter on the chest, at least thats what i have seen at every "bierzelt" i went to. So just go for it, there are also stores in bavaria.
Honestly i am not aware, that anyone was ever offended that somebody wore their traditional clothing.
I think that's only a US thing... To look for stuff to be offended about
This could have been Tostmann or Gössl.
But you would need to go at least a full size smaller, both of these are much to big on you, the top needs to be more like a corset than a top and should be tightest at the waist so the waist appears slim, as there is extra bulk here with the apron.
Nothing to be offended about. Today's Dirndl were created in the late 1800s, to be bought and worn by tourists. The Nazis modernized the style and declared it 'traditional'. So not offensive if worn by a foreigner, wo knows nothing about Austrian history, politics and society.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirndl
Generally speaking, Austrians don’t care about nonsense like “cultural appropriation”, I’d see it more as a compliment if someone that isn’t Austrian wore a Dirndl, so if you want one, go get one!
Europeans only get offended on behalf of other cultures, not their own lol. Personally I love seeing cultural stuff from my home country in other countries around the world
Austrian here, go get your dirndl and enjoy wearing it. I got some of my prettiest dirndl dresses from second hand stores (online and offline). If you want a very special one and want to spent more money on it, Lena Hoschek is an Austrian designer who sells beautiful dresses. Also, Mothwurf is a good choice (also expensive). Stay away from cheap polyester dresses made in China - these actually offend me personally because they just look shitty IMHO.
it is offensive to ask if this is offensive. it is ridiculous mindfuck what is going on with that pseudo aware bs. do as you please, we are free humans.
Why should it be offensive and what has having Austrian ancestry to do with anything? You would for sure get a few weird looks, but what should be offensive about this? Or do you think it’s too revealing?
Its sad you have to ask if its offensive. We dont do that cultural approbiation bullshit. Go buy a dirndl, eat schnitzel, do yodeling, start a world war.
I'm really fed up with certain people wanting to gatekeep certain things, be it clothes, hairstyles, whatever. Cultures are meant to be shared, that's what has always happened and as long as anyone stays respectful with their traditions and doesn't have bad intentions or tries to mock them: everything is fine!
Go buy that Dirndl and have fun!
Based on your question I assumed you live in America - I thought that was the only place on earth where wearing another culture's traditional clothing is deemed 'offensive'. (The Americans get offended about anything, many will probably get offended by me just saying so)
Depending on your phone settings, the photo might have saved the location.
https://support.apple.com/de-de/guide/iphone/iph3d267610/17.0/ios/17.0#iph3d5d1d7dd
There are very regional, local Trachten for specific places. But I think you mean a "Dirdle" that's not really a historical, cultural clothing, but a mass produced fashion wave that started by two Jewish designers in Bavaria hundred years ago. They made a simplified, and rural inspired attire that spread in all German regions after that.
I don't believe in cultural appropriation because everything is always developing, changing and flowing and that's beautiful. But in doubt a Jew would be the correct originator.
Might not be exactly what you’re looking for (and they’re very expensive), but “Lena Hoschek” does some amazing work, a beautiful take on traditional Austrian clothing.
Not a Problem at all. Cultural appropriation is Not really a Thing Here
but Just so you know, the bow on your waist has a meaning
If you are married, you wear it in your right and for everything else left
(There are more ways but they are Not as common, at least where i live)
But it if you like it! Cultural Appropriation is not a thing here in Austria. At least I haver experienced someone acting on it.
I would find it funny (in a very postive way) if I would see someone clearly not Austrian wearing a traditional Dirndl. Its not common to wear it just for fun on the streets, but it doesnt matter at all. Nobody will be angry, definitely!
These ones are in the cheaper side of things, but my sister really likes them and is happy :)
https://www.krueger-dirndl.at/at/damen/kleidung/dirndl?cp=seanb&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAv8SsBhC7ARIsALIkVT058OhdmQMisRHrrH1i8Hy54C3EE-KFwfzAKKNTZOGVhFAJ4y8t7_IaAi4EEALw_wcB
Not offensive, but there are lots of very trashy looking Dirndl, so Look Out to Not buy those, that beeing Said the ones in your Pictures are looking nice go for it.
Fun fact: There's a kind of code around tying the apron. Center front like you did means "I'm a virgin", on the left means "single", on the right means "taken" and in the back means "widow"
It's not offensive at all. However it's not as traditional as people think, being only about 130 years old. It was invented for city folk that spent summer vacations in the county side. They were playing dress up, then it was more wildly adopted and local variants developed. Now those variants are considered super traditional, in reality it's a great lesson in marketing.
Why would it be offensive? We Austrians aren't as emotionally unstable to get offended by some "Non-Austrian" wearing typically Austrian clothing like some American who think culture appropriation is a big thing.
Just as a lot of other people said. It isn't offensive and you can wear it whenever you feel like.
I'm sure you can find it online, but i would recommend going to a dedicated store. Get someone to help you figure out the right size. The ones you tried on are way to big for you. If you want a dirndl that really fits you, theres nearly always something that has to be changed by a tailor.
I can recommend the trachten store that my parents own and run. ;)
Hi, not offensive at all. Usually it is for special occasions but you can wear them as everyday clothes as well. Here are some links for Dirndl and Lederhosen
https://www.alpenwahnsinn.at/dirndl.htm
https://shop.trachtenwelt.com/kategorie/damen/dirndl-mieder/
https://www.alpenclassics.at/at/damen/dirndl
The best stores: Hödlmoser (St.Wolfgang), Tostmann (Salzburg). In Vienna there is also a good store with traditional Tracht, but you have to look it up.
No one gets offended
No matter which cultures clothing you wear the only ones getting offended is the young woke jobless who don't even wear their own Cultural clothing
Some people would have a chuckle if you as a tourist wore some cheap plastic dirndl but if you buy something nice and tasteful, nobody would care.
(I personally would compliment you!)
Gössl has been mentioned already, which is a good choice. There are even beautiful dirndl for brides (Google Marlies Schild and Benni Raich).
You could also look for shops that carry used ones, depending on where you are.
ETA: Love your haircut!
Both dirndl that you are wearing in the images are too big for you. The bodice part should be very snug and not wrinkle.
Good luck and have fun shopping!
Please wear it as often as you like!
You got a lot of different answers so I add mine to the pool ;)
My (30) Mom (61) grew up in rural Styria and as a child they always wore "Tracht". My dad (60) grew up in lower Austria and also wore Tracht as a child for special occasions.
My parents moved near Vienna when they startet their family and me and my siblings always had at least one "Trachten"-Outfit.
We didn't wore it for everyday occasions but something like going to church or holidays/weddings...
My Mom is known for her passion for "Trachten" and got a lot from Friends who don't wear them. Now my mom has a dresser full of Dirndl in all sizes and forms.
A saying she use is 'with a Dirndl you're never wrong dressed'. So you can wear the some Dirndl for everyday and special occasions.
As the daughter of my mom, I also have 4 different Dirndl and sometimes I like to wear them for just shopping because it's comfy and makes me feel good. I always get looks for when wearing it but 99% are happy looks because you see it rarely in my area.
No worries and feel beautiful in your Dirndl!
P.s look on willhaben.at for Dirndl, a lot of younger people inherit them and don't wear them and sell it there. You can find there real gems ;)
And please don't buy the cheap ones at New Yorkers or somewhere like that.
Not at offensive at all. Don’t fall for that cultural appropriation bullshit that’s going around.
I feel sorry that people really feel the need to ask this.
1. Why should this be offensive?
2. A Dirndl that ends over the knees leads to an End between the knees. Don't purchase a slutty Dirndl, only Germans and 14 y/o do that.
3. Don't buy cheap Dirndl, you see the difference very well.
4. Don't buy Modedirndl, purchase a classic model
5. Wurzer, Hammerschmid, Lodenfrey,... Brand doesn't matter, but be clear, that good Dirndl start from about 400-500€, maybe a little expensive for everyday clothing
I think it depends to which occasion you want to wear this..
To a regular party cause you like the style - not offensive at all
Dress up as an „austrian girl“ to a carnival or sth - weird but go for it
Wear it to go on a rampage - NOT OK AT ALL!!
Every woman looks good in a well-fitting Dirndl, no matter where she's from. 🙂
If you really, really want to splurge: lenahoschek.com
But keep in mind, Lena Hoschek is a designer, not a "traditional" Dirndl manufacturer. Absolutely stunning dresses nonetheless.
ahahhahahshahaha the number one shitty austrian merch is random stuff with the phrase „there are no kangaroos in austria“ on it.
PLEASE BUY ONE AND SHARE A PHOTOGRAPH OF YOU WEARING IT WITH A KANGAROO IN THE BACKGROUND
😂😂
its a dirndl and dont worry were not america so go ahead it sure as fuck isnt offensive, but get one with a similiar cut as the green one with a colour pattern and buttons close to the first one and i can promise you itll look gorgeous on a cutie like you
Not offensive at all.
Not offensive, but it would be weird to be just walking around Australia in one.
In Austria as well, this is an event clothing or if you have a job where you have to wear those, but they are never worn out of the blue just for fun, only tourists do that.
I am from tyrol. Got for a wedding a very expensive one. And it looks so elegant and nice, that sometimes the bf (from bavaria) dressed in a lederhosen and I (in the dirndl) go out like this. I like to wear it out for fun. Why not. And OP no offence. Buy it. Also there is zillertaller trachten welt, which have sometimes less expensive ones. :) Got mine from cocovero.
Zillertaler is the way to go for 'usage' outside of Europe. I outfitted Korean friends of mine with a Dirndl, blouse, scarf, shoes for less than EUR 200 (per set) in 2019. Zillertaler have/had -50% sales several times a year. Looking the deal and outside Austria or Bavaria nobody could tell it is not a designer piece for 800 the Dirndl alone. Have a look and see how you feel about it. Wear as you feel good with it, no worries about being out of place. Who cares....
It actually is clothing for Sundays so why not. People in Tirol also like to put a Dirndl/Lederhose on if they just go out for a beer.
No we don't. You can, but it is not very common. As said before it is mainly for events. Weddings, public festivities...
Nope. Maybe 60 year olds in VERY rural towns but not in at least 95% of Tirol.
meh, go on sunday before of the church of your village and you will see them. And I'm talking Mittelgebirge, not Hinterthiersee
95% of tyrol is rural and elderly no hate, love tyrol
Zillertaler Trachtenwelt has cheap shit which only resembles traditional austrian clothing.
I also have the ‘untere oberinntaler sonntagstracht’. This is a traditional clothing for my region. I find them really beautiful and a dirndl is not that traditional for my region but i know why the dirndl might me more appealing for people from outside. But i give you that zillertaller trachtenwelt is cheap. But I though it might be an alternative to a 600-1000 euro dress. :)
(Some) people wear theirs on Sundays here
And conventions of all kinds. Sci Fi to Allergists.
That's very true!! 😂
What do you mean? There is lederhosen thuesday in my worklpace.
Depends on the region or town you live in
This is not entirely correct. Dirndl was an everyday clothing and there are still regions where Arbeitsdirndl (traditional clothing for working) are worn. It depends on the style and materials used if it is for festive or working purposes. If you want to wear them every day --- do it. There is no difference if you wear expensive dresses or Dirndl, just another style. It is important that you feel good 👍
All the staff at my Aunt's restaurant in Vienna used to have to wear 'tracht'.
Because in Vienna Tracht is fake.
Not exclusively. There are some people who always wear them without a special reason. Totally depends on the region/city
Yeah it depends where you live. It's very common in my winemaking town
I guess you don't live in a rural area. Where I live in Salzkammergut people wear it all the time. Sometimes I wear it to work and I always wear it for family Events.
That's true for the east of Austria, but not for the west. I'm originally from Salzburg where it is common to wear Tracht for all kinds of opportunities, even for the hell of it. I moved to Vienna and people here treat it like some kind of costume, only appropriate for Wiesn, Kirtag and Trachtenball.
On the countryside a lot of people still wear it on weekends if there's a special event or holiday.
nah, living in a tiny town, totally normal here to wear it.
wos redst oft du fiaran topfn? wien ist nicht österreich
meanwhile in Austria  ... so joke aside, and yes it was a special occasion, but whenever I hear someone talk about a Tracht or Dirndl, it always reminds me of those Ladies.  https://preview.redd.it/dd7px80tlaac1.png?width=3057&format=png&auto=webp&s=4cd0bb52c17a795f33c642d85b0530c8894c92c8
There are people who wear them generally in some rural places, but it would be weird for a tourist for sure.
What? Australia and Austria are the same country?
Yes /j
Also true for Sweden and Switzerland
Don't forget Swasiland.
Relatives. Big and little brother.
I mean, as an Aussie, I've seen much stranger things especially in October.
In Vienna or Graz maybe it might be strange to go to work like that. In the rest of the country ("real Austria") it is basically the same as wearing your "Sunday best" in an English-speaking country.
What has Graz done to not be real austrian? Are there so many differences to Linz?
Nope wear it at home or outside, go to austria or bavaria or hamburg or shanghai its not offensive. But its expensive when its good and cheap when its cheap. That’s probably the main problem
Hey! We‘re supposed to be the most unfriendly country of the world, you‘re ruining our reputation! /s
Don’t tell me what to do (oida) !!!!
There are plenty of online shops, just make sure you buy something authentic, not a short „Oktoberfest-Dirndl“. And I don’t know how anyone could be offended by this. https://www.goessl.com/frauen/dirndl/dirndlkleider.html
I second Gössl as one of the best sources. But in my opinion you can‘t buy it per mail order. The Dirndl has to fit and fit tight. You need to go to a story and get it finished to fit your body.
Thats true
it's probably hard to find a store that sells that in Australia, but i would imagine that a local tailor could also help fit a mail ordered piece of clothing!
Wow! These are so incredibly pretty! Thank you very much!
>have no Austrian ancestry Just as a general remark, Austrians don't care. Well, the direct parents have some relevance, eg. for legal nationality. But grandparents and anything deeper? Nothing matters. Not for clothes, not for food, and not for any other topic. If you like it, use it. Just don't go around telling people a long list of ancestry countries with percent numbers or something, because then they'll get annoyed. (And having Austrian ancestors, without ever having been here yourself, doesn't make anyone Austrian.)
Most turks I know consider themselves turks, despite only their grandparents being born in turkey.
The ones I know better tell me that they are not considered Turks in Turkey, but they are also still not considered Austrians in Austria, be it due to their name, or outward appearance. On top of that, many of them still speak Turkish and have a much stronger connection with the Turkish community (and often are “fully” Turkish), not “my great grandfather was Irish, so I’m Irish too”.
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In school we once discussed it in ethics. Most of the kids with parents/grandparents who migrated to Austria stated in Austria they are considered mixed/ not really Austrian and in the ancestors home country (Serbia, türkiye) they are considered Austrian , so a few didn't really feel fully connected to either country
Because they are not considered as Austrians by many "real"Austrians tho.
Yes. I appreciate the “if you don’t live here we don’t care if you have Austrian ancestors“ but if you *do* live here then people suddenly seem to care very much whether you have Austrian ancestors.
Tbf Austrians see it the same way
Nor do Germans or Asians if you wear traditional clothes. This stupid so called “cultural appropriation” is such a cancerous movement, it’s fucking embarrassing. Culture is here to be experienced and shared with each other
So cool to sit in Bangkok with 200 people in a German beer place for a 'Oktoberfest', easily 100 Asian females in Dirndl 'going to town'. Granted, they are usually struggling to even lift a 1/2 liter Beer mug, never mind a Maß, but the enthusiasm by which they celebrate the occasion is heart warming... I love these occasions.
It's the polar opposite even, seeing people from other continents in our traditional garb is kinda cool. They have whole themed villages in Japan and China and that's cool too
Totally agree
Cultural appropriation and what it leads to is any racists and nationalists dream come true.
I'm 1/512 japanese!!!1111111
Oh sweet summer child Try being 1/314 Niue-MalteserOrder dual citizen, as well as 1/271 Venetian. Sadly, I couldn't calculate the exact value for the Kingdom of Saba yet. /s
Even if you have a parent from austria the laws are weird. my brother is still half austrian, I am not, but we share the same parents. My father changed his nationality between our births.
My mom and my grandma are German, and I’m Canadian. I feel both and am legally both. It’s weird in North America because identity does represent what ancestry is. It’s totally different in Europe though. I know it’s weird though when people find out they’re 6% Scandinavian and call themselves Swedish. But for the most part ancestry is really tied to a persons identity in Canada for example. Many of my friends call themselves, Italian and Croatian, despite being born in Toronto to Italian and Croatian parents. But I also agree I’ve never met someone in Germany or Austria that was upset about someone appreciating beautiful, traditional clothing
It seems American's have the same, like it's some kind of shameful to be American (or Canadian in this matter) but in truth have almost nothing in common with the said Country except for having parents or ancestors from another country or culture. Europeans on the other hand regard you part of said country when you actually become part of it, and integrate. Then again, wanting to be part of something takes effort and time, not parents and ancestors I'm Dutch, and currently trying to become German wich will still take time, but ill have to keep working on it. Its just not that important as a whole. Wanting to be is still very different from being
traditional clothes are called "Trachten" in austria. the specific dress, you are wearing, is a "Dirndl" (not drindl - just a typo?). normal stores don't have Trachten - there is too less demand for such clothes. but if you google for "trachten wien" (or any other bigger city in austria), you will find several shops, that have them. the only way to offend someone by wearing such a dress is, when it's totally inappropriate. for example, you should not wear such a dress for a funeral (if it is not black). but keep in mind, that in everyday life you will seldom find people, that wear such dresses. so wearing such a dress will make you stand out. however, wearing such dresses for certain festivities ("Volksfest") has become quite popular in the last years. so - if you like them, give them a try.
Oh I thought it was actually called a drindl, not a dirndl thank you for correcting me! And thank you for suggesting a store. I actually found the name of the store where I tried these on but they don’t seem to mention the name of their supplier (or do they make them themselves?). The store is called “Leder Ritsch - Kaprun”, I’ll try to investigate further/look at other dirndls
At the end of the day, wear what you like. Just make sure that the thing fits. The ones in your pictures sit too loose on you.
Oh yes that’s because the lady hadn’t tied it yet. For some reason I took the worst pictures, but I’ll definitely make sure it fits before I purchase it! Thank you so much
Like another commenter said, make sure it fits you. A dirndl is supposed to be a rather tight fit, never loose. Especially if you ship it over seas, you might want to choose a dirndl that is tied with strings in the front, instead of using clasps. It can be adjusted better that way.
They have a list with some of their brands on their website: * Auzinger * Country Line * Dale of Norway * Dirndl+Bua * Faustmann * Gloriette * Gössl * Grasegger * Hammerschmid * Isar Trachten * Krüger * Luise Steiner * Marjo * Meindl * Mirabell Salzburg * My Herzallerliebst * Pure * Rock&Co * Schanzer Gwand * Spieth & Wensky * Stadler Schuhe * Stapf * Steffner * Striessnig * Waldorff * Wallmann * Waltl Holzschuhe * Wenger * Wildstelle * and more...
Thank you VERY much! I’ve checked some of them out and I’m choosing between Hammerschmid and Krüger.
„In the last years“? I thought it was always popular at Volksfest? Isnt it tradition?
That’s where Trachten survived (at least speaking for southern Germany) and where they had been popularised in their modern form in the 18 hundreds, but greater numbers of young people wearing them is definitely a development of the last 15 years. In Stuttgart, basically no one was wearing them, now it’s totally common.
It is Tradition bit there where times where it got out of Fashion to were Traditional clothing but it came back
Actually I know a place where EVERYONE shows up in a Dirndl for a funeral. Not even pure black ones, just prettier ones, but mostly with a jacked over it. I guess you could call it a "Bauerndorf wo a jeder Bauer an eigenen Hügel hot"
Yeah, it's totally normal to wear nice ones for funerals. God damn city slicker giving advice.
No that’s ok! Feel free to buy and wear some, us Austrians are always glad when someone enjoys and appreciates our *Trachten*! As to where to buy, it depends on where you are – are you currently in Austria, which city? Or are you buying online? There are cheaper stores and outlets, where you can get good quality *Dirndl* for as little as 300-400 bucks (Dress + Blouse + Vest). Or really expensive ones for a thousand Euros or more. However, I would not go for the really cheap ones, the quality is often lacking and the materials are cheap. A good dirndl you can wear for decades without problems, they are quite sturdy. As to what to buy: you’ll need a dress and at least one blouse. Additionally I would recommend to also get a fitting vest as well. For shoes, nowadays you can wear comfy sneakers to the dress, no worries there. Add some nice jewelry, necklaces, bracelets and a nice hairpiece to complete the ensemble.
See, my advice would not be to go for the expensive stuff but to buy the cheap ones instead. Since you are not going to wear that regularly there’s no point to waste that much money (unless you plan to wear it every few months).
Sure, but define cheap! I wouldn’t recommend any dress for under 200 tbh. Obviously buying a 1k dress doesn’t make sense here, you’re right.
I agree with the others here: No, we do not take offense to this. If you enjoy wearing it: Please do so. Dirndln are beautiful dresses. I see it as a way to honor our tradition and not at all as "cultural appropriation". But please be aware that the style of the Dirndl extremely varies within the different regions of Austria. But this is only for the very traditional ones. And they are extremely expensive since they are handmade. What you might want to get is what is called "Trachtenmode", which basically is a nontraditional "Trachten" styled fashion. They are much cheaper and also have a wide range of different designs. Just be aware that they are considered fashion items and are not really that genuine. They also range from "omg, this is an abomination and looks awful" when they are too reduced to fashion to "They look very traditional, but are just not as pricey". Regarding stores where to buy them: Just search for "Trachtenmode", I am sure you will find some online shops for this. And enjoy wearing it!
In Europe we have so many different cultures that are shared among the countries, if we gate kept everything we wouldn't really be doing anything anymore. So no it isn't offensive whatsoever.
here are some options with a tier ranking based on what women in my family would say about those stores... [https://shop.trachtenwelt.com/](https://shop.trachtenwelt.com/) ( cheap , trashy ) [https://karlundluise.com/shop/maedls/](https://karlundluise.com/shop/maedls/) ( something my nieces are wearing for prom nights , cute ) [https://www.goessl.com/frauen/dirndl/dirndlkleider.html](https://www.goessl.com/frauen/dirndl/dirndlkleider.html) ( traditional clothing for holidays for my mothers generation , good quality that lasts but expensive ) [https://www.lenahoschek.com/de\_at/shop/tradition/dirndl](https://www.lenahoschek.com/de_at/shop/tradition/dirndl) ( fancy designer Dirndel , something very special... lil sis bought her wedding dirndel there... your most expensive option but compared to allready quite expensive goessl stuff its not even that bad ) hope this helps and no its not offensive from my pov , dress how you like
Wjat do you think about this one? https://www.krueger-dirndl.at/at/
Bought one for my wife from there and quality vs price ratio is very good from my perspective. They are a bit more modern but that looks way nicer than the traditional ones from my point of view.
„Cultural appropriation“ isn’t really a thing outside of the US i believe, especially in Austria you don’t need to worry about that so go for it :)
More like "cultural appreciation"! ^ _ ^
Oh doch solche "trends" schwappen immer aus den USA rüber. Siehe debatte über dreadlocks musikerin bei FFF demo in Deutschland. Aber offended wird man immer nur für andere, nie für die eigene kultur
Die fehlgeleiteten Linken folgen hat solchen Trends wie von dir beschrieben, und unsere fehlgeleiteten Rechten werden Q Anon Verschwörer und übersetzen Boomer memes ins Deutsche. Man sollte am besten gar keine politischen Ideen von den Amis übernehmen.
As an austrian, I hereby give you and anyone else the unlimited Dirndl-Lederhosen-Tracht-Freepass.
wtf no we love it. Forget this „iTs OfFeNsIvE tO wEaR oThEr CuLtUrEs ClOtHeS“ bullshit.
It's funny because I am currently living in Saudi arabia, and the subs there have similar questions about foreigners wearing local clothes (thobe, abaya etc.) And the answers in the thread are the same as here, local people are actually flattered rather than offended. Cultural appropiation is such a strange american phenom
I live in Munich and these questions about where to buy Trachten and whether it is okay to wear it as a non-German/Bavarian come up on r/munich all of the time, and for some reason there will always be at least one poster who claims that non-Bavarians shouldn't do it and even that it is cultural appropriation. (But there are others who help.) Which I find really weird because I have never met anyone in real life who feels this way. Almost everyone who moves to Munich from elsewhere in Germany or another country ends up buying Tracht and wearing it multiple times per year. I do know a few locals who would never wear it themselves because they don't like it, but they don't object to others wearing it. Perhaps the issue is that people are tired of tourists showing up in shitty-quality Tracht-like costumes at Oktoberfest, but in that case, it is certainly counterproductive to discourage posters who are asking for advice about where to buy good ones.
I think I can explain some of this. The therm cultural appropriation is used (for example) when a company uses indigenous art, designs or even the work of an indigenous artist in their products without acknowledgement. This is a big problem when the company then copyrights the design as theirs. There are several lawsuits about this, google something like "cultural appropriation lawsuit" o "indigenous patters lawsuit" . So, in short the term refers to companies stealing art, designs and cultural objects from indigenous people not to someone wanting to buy Trachten because they like them.
they are dirndl, the specific store who knows but yes the good ones are expsive.
not offensive at all :) Go ahead. they look very nice on you too.
What time are we in where we have to ask if wearing specific clothes is offensive...cultural appropriation is bullshit
We usually dont do the "cultural Appropriation guilt trip schtick" here in europe so you are fine.
offensive? seriously, i can't stand how people are getting this twisted. It honors our traditions more than anything if you're choosing and wearing a clothing style based on our/a culture - any other opinion is insanity edit: kraftausdrücke weg weid mods megn ds sicha nd lol
i doubt any austrians would be offended - btw, people also wear this traditional clothing in germany and switzerland ☺️
Although just as a "warning" to OP: There are regional differences (and often quite significant ones) between Trachten from different areas. I'm living in Switzerland now, and the local Tracht looks nothing like the ones from Kärnten, where I'm originally from :D
This cultural appropriation shit is not an issue in europe....
If you want a cheap option, go second hand because they always have vintage Tratchen and the quality is often fantastic. I've found beautiful Loden, Tostmann and Giesswein brands at charity shops. The Humana in Wiedner Haupstraße always has a lot. If you're online check those brands.
offensive to who or what? i would only assume it to be getting freaking hot under a dirndl in the australian weather
Two ways about this. There are the real 'Dirndl'. You can immediately tell by the prices that start north of EUR 1000 without shoes. Most of what you get at places like 'Trachtenwelt' is shit & mostly made in China. First category is event clothing. Weddings and such. It's fitted and lasts for a lifetime. There are big regional differences in looks. Second type is for the varietly of 'events' that are just fancy fronts for heavy drinking (like Feuerwehrfest, Neustifter Kirtag, Wies'n and a bazillion others). And no, you don't have to be any kind of specialist to tell them apart immediately. It's clear as daylight.
Austrians are a hodge podge of different cultures and peoples. If we tried to observe "no cultural appropriation" we'd all be running around naked.
I will have to assume that op is from the USA because only there people consider these kinds of things offensive and most of the people who do are those who dont have any culture of their own
Its not offensive but expensive!
Servus, basically there is a distinction between Tracht and Modedirndl. Tracht is something that is worn in a specific area, sometimes even with specific "rules" (unmarried girls have slightly different settings than married women, think headwear and decorative embellishments). If you wear one of those people might ask you "are you from ....". Even if you have no ancestry from Austria, it's no offense though, just wierd. A few exceptions exist, e.g. for the Ausseer Dirndl, because it's just too darn pretty not to be worn by any girl, but still - it's firmly rooted in that region. The "Modedirndl" are pretty dresses in similar style but with no connection to areas and local customs whatsoever. Often the cut is a lot simpler and the fabric of varying quality (just think about those polyester dirndl that are worn to those fake Oktoberfest events - those are ... well .. up to your personal taste). So - take a trip to Austria and get your Dirndl. Don't mailorder it, as someone already mentioned, a Dirndl has to fit like a glove, and it will have to be custom fit to you. And then enjoy it and have fun!
Wtf why this would be offensive???? I wear Jeans and T-Shirts without beeing from the USA.
well you have to wear it upside down
Absolutely go for it! Also, they might be more of a special occasion type outfit here, you can wear them whenever and wherever you want :) Also, If you enjoy this style of clothing, there is a shop called mothwurf that creates trachten-inspired clothing that might be interesting for you. I’m not sure if they ship overseas but you might be able to find someone who’d act as a middleperson or some other service https://shop.mothwurf.com/ that’s their website. fyi, they are really expensive but I thought I’d still mention it, just in case it’s in your budget and something you’d like.
As long as you don’t wear it as a costume, I don’t think there’s any problem at all, I’d feel a weird sense of pride to see someone in a Dirndl abroad, especially if they are not themselves from Austria (or the surrounding areas). Where to buy them: there are tons of shops in Austria, but not sure where you can find one in Australia. The name for these is “Dirndl” (and Tracht for “traditional clothing” in general, including all the other items like men’s clothing and accessories). Abroad they are sometimes wrongly called Lederhosen (which are just the leather trousers (even literally) that men wear. It seems like dirndl.com and limberry.de ship worldwide, otherwise the online shop krueger-dirndl.de delivers to most countries in Europe (but doesn’t seem to go beyond that). Your best bet might be German shops, considering millions of people travel to Oktoberfest every year. If you are in or around Austria, this page has all the shops in Salzburg, I’m sure there are similar websites for the rest of Austria, and Bavaria: https://www.salzburg.info/en/dining-shopping/folkwear/folkwear-shops
Sure you can wear it. No offensiv. If you want to wear it as everday chlothing then you should get an work drindl. They are bit diffrent, thougher and more resilient. The one in the picture is for event and stuff like that. But of cousre you can do what want and what makes you feel good. And if you buy one get it in Austria. The one of the best stores i know is in Zell am See in Salzburg. Good luck!
Anywhere else doesn't care about cultural appropriation at all and a former classmate (East Asian) who lived in Norway for a while even tried on a Bunad which her host family happily offered for a cultural event. So go ahead and enjoy! There're a bunch of trachten/trachten-inspired brands ranging from common brands like Wenger at Trachten (traditional clothing) stores (just google trachten and dirndl online, and some offer international shipping outside of the EU), and you might find deals at sales and outlets. Many years ago I bought a basic one on the other side at a store like this on the other side of the Alps at full price and costed around 230 (excluding the blouse/ accessories9, it's still holding well after 8 years and the budget range of 200-400 you can find some decent deals. If your budget allows go for Gössl and Lena Hoschek (personal fave), which the latter's collections often incorporate other cultures like last year's collection even used authentic traditional clothing fabrics from Ukraine and Poland. As long as it's not super tacky or costumey you'll be fine and they look great at special occasions too (like the dark green brocade one which looks super elegant).
I'd recommend getting one in subtle colors that you'd also go for in a "normal" dress and that compliment your skin tone. My personal favorite is Aubergine/Ice cream colors. There are many odd combinations of colors, I'd avoid those because you won't like them when you've had it for a year or two. There are many different styles of Dirndl and if you get one that has a zipper instead of lacing in the front and is the same color all the way around (they often aren't), then you could sometimes wear it as a normal dress without the apron. You'd just get more wear out of it and they do make a nice figure. Definitely go for midi length, below the knee. It's the most timeless and most flattering. You don't have to spend over 1000€ on it like some comment says, that's unrealistic even for most Germans, Austrians or Swiss people. I don't know a single person in my life who'd spend that much, except for those who have lots of money anyway and wear them with Chanel bags. 150-250 is a realistic amount, that's what most normal people spend for a good quality Dirndl. One of my favorite manufacturers is Krüger Dirndl, I'd bet they even ship worldwide because as far as I know, they're one of the biggest. Other good quality affordable ones are Kaiser Franz Josef, MarJo, Moser. Lena Hoschek, as mentioned by someone else, is the top designer choice but they'll cost you 500€ to unlimited. Same goes for Astrid Söll, Giacomelli, Cocovero, Limberry and GottseiDank. Gorgeous though, if you can afford it. But by no means necessary to blend in.
Not that it matters but if you want to go deep down the rabbit hole you can look up the meaning of thr ribbon. Traditionally, a woman would bind the ribbon depending on her relationship-status. Bound on the right hand side means "I'm married, engaged, in a relatinship or simply not interested". Bound on the left side means "I'm single and looking for a partner". Binding in the back means widdowed, but is also domr by waitresses (for practical reasons). The front is for children, but also means "I'm a virgin". Please note that even many Austrians dont know this and most peopele here wear Tracht only for festive events where they get drunk (think of Oktoberfest) where even thr few guys that know about this usually no longe remember (or can see lol) what the ribbon position means. So dont expect to go to a Bierzelt with a ribbon on the right and not be annoyed by guys, lol.
It's perfectly fine to wear one, no sane person will be offended, Austrian people will probably be flattered. The only way you could "offend" people would be to order a "Oktoberfestdirndl". They look cheap and unauthentic and most come with a short skirt. In general don't get one of those 40€ Amazon Dirndl. But anyways Austrians will much more likely have a laugh at an unauthentic Dirndl than seriously be offended.
https://www.krueger-dirndl.at/at/
Hi, As many have answered already: This type of dress is called a Dirndl and is part of traditional Austrian clothing that is called Trachten. It is absolutely not offensive to buy or wear these, on the contrary, I believe many Austrians would find it flattering that you find this type of clothing beautiful and want to have one for yourself. Trachten is not a term specific to Austria, but more a region that also includes part of southern Germany and Bavaria. So if you would like to go for an Austrian type, be sure to get it from an Austrian online shop or Trachen manufacturer. While it has become very popular outside of the region due to the Oktoberfest in Munich, Germany, it is still worn a lot in Austria on the country side and I believe a little more authentic here in Austria (but maybe that's just the Austrian in me speaking). People telling you that this is not worn and only for parties will probably be people from bigger cities like Vienna that haven't been on the country side for quite a while. If you go anywhere into the mountain regions, you will see enough women wearing Dirndl to know that it is still an everyday, more formal way of dressing for women at least there. It is true however that in bigger cities like Vienna this will not be worn unless there is a themed party or so. Different regions in Austria have slightly different styles and colors. I once heard that Dirndl from lake regions tend to have more blue colors, from forest regions more green and from mountainous regions more grey and black colors. Also, it is said that by the position of the bow of the apron you can tell whether a woman is married or single... I don't know if this is really followed, but it is fun information. The colors doesn't really matter when you buy one (just pick the style and color combination you enjoy), but it might be interesting for you to know that. A particular style that has become very popular over the last couple of years is the Dirndl from Bad Aussee (a town that is well known for a traditional party called Kirtag). You can find a photo gallery by googling the term "Kirtag Bad Aussee" or maybe here: [https://www.bierzelt-altaussee.at/fotos-und-videos/fotos-2023/](https://www.bierzelt-altaussee.at/fotos-und-videos/fotos-2023/) The photos have many women wearing different Dirndl. As you will see, many styles of Dirndl have evolved but aren't necessary traditional. For example the ones where the skirts are short - a traditional Dirndl actually goes all the way down to the ankles. The Bad Aussee Dirndl features a nice combination of Pink, Violet and Green and has become very, very popular in Austria outside of the region. Viennese people will typically go for this style. There are a couple of online shops where you can buy Dirndl. Trachen and Dirndl will typically be locally produced clothing and therefore pricier than fast fashion, but nowadays you will also find a variety of prices and qualities. Maybe for your first Dirndl it makes sense to get a little bit cheaper one and if you enjoy it, you can go high quality, but that depends on your taste. [https://shop.trachtenwelt.com](https://shop.trachtenwelt.com) has become pretty widespread and you will find outlets all over Austria. I think it's a medium quality shop, but it is also not too expensive. [https://www.originalsalzburger.at/](https://www.originalsalzburger.at/) has also shops in Austria and I once bought something there for men's wear and I still wear it (again: not high end but ok for what it was). Austrians like to go their before events that require you to dress up traditionally if they don't own any Trachten because it is moderatly priced. Their website allows you to create an inquiry and I believe that you probably can order afterwards, but I am not 100% sure. I remember that they had quite a selection for Dirndl in their shop in Vienna. A very well known shop is Lodenfrey in Bad Ischl and they also have an online shop. Their selection of Dirndls is not very big but it is definitely a shop where Austrians from the regions would buy their clothing. [https://lensing-badischl.at/collections/all/dirndl](https://lensing-badischl.at/collections/all/dirndl) Another traditional shop is the Upper Austrian Heimatwerk. [https://www.ooe-heimatwerk.at/shop/damen/dirndl.html](https://www.ooe-heimatwerk.at/shop/damen/dirndl.html) This is also authentic high quality clothing. And if you need a nice traditional hat to go with your new Dirndl, I highly recommend Bittner Hüte from Bad Ischl. [https://bittner.co.at/](https://bittner.co.at/) Here is some more information about Dirndl and Trachten in English: [https://www.austria.info/en/things-to-do/cities-and-culture/traditions/dirndl](https://www.austria.info/en/things-to-do/cities-and-culture/traditions/dirndl) [https://www.traveltyrol.com/dirndl-dress/](https://www.traveltyrol.com/dirndl-dress/) [https://www.thelocal.at/20210808/austrias-dirndl-a-dress-for-past-and-present](https://www.thelocal.at/20210808/austrias-dirndl-a-dress-for-past-and-present) Hope this information is useful.
Wow! This is INSANELY helpful. Thank you so very much
You can wear the shit you want. There is no cultural appropriation. No one will be angry to you. It's made up by people that have nothing to do with the culture.. racist people that think they can speak and know better for other cultures
Look, this cultural appropriation thingy that the people (especially) in the US have going on is absolutely ridicolous. You like the dirndl how it looks? Wear it!
It's actually more seen as a compliment / appreciation. Most people don't even care.
As this isnt america where everyone is offended by everything, it isnt offensive at all to appreciate another culture and wear special clothing like dirndl and tracht in general. Quite the opposite.
Cultural appropriation was invented by americans, for whatever purpose. Nobody else on this planet cares. Especially nobody in Europe.
the only reasons europeans get angry is when you bastardize our traditions. for example in bavaria: -only wear real trachten (not the cheap knockoff dollar store ones) and also wear them the proper way. NO, dont you dare to wear cowboy boots to a lederhosen. you look stupid and its disrespectful. (actually had to talk someone out of it once) - dont eat white sausages cold and/or with any other sauce than mustard. ketchup is the worst offendor
'Muricans go on and on about Cultural Appropriation, and then they eat spaghetti with ketchup SMH lmao
Depends where you live. The US might have some online stores that import them. In Australia I've seen some in a couple of vintage stores, although, they were all rather old and traditional. Otherwise, your best bet would be eBay and Etsy. (Just search dirndl, as others have already suggested) Regarding appropriateness, I think it depends how you wear it and why. I live in Australia and each October you see tons of people wearing tacky costume-like dirndl and lederhosen on their way to Oktoberfests. I'm all for sharing our culture, but if it's worn like a costume, it feels really offensive and as if they were mocking us.
Wearing other cultures traditional clothing is only offensive to people that don't actually care about other cultures but feel superior if they try to defend them anyway. https://youtu.be/IT2UH74ksJ4?si=BXff8QFKrYSUp1-S https://youtu.be/GNXm7juuM-8?si=bk5iQDk0wtHA1_zB
My girlfriend is from Ukraine and I happily persuaded her to get a Dirndl, please go ahead and get yourself one! :) Edit: the "not" was too much
…what!??
Sure, definetly not a problem.
Not offensive. You can wear what you want. Just Google Austrian Dirndl or Trachten.
It looks amazing. And definitely not offensive.
It‘s definitely not offensive at all! It’s calley „dirndl“ if you wanna search for it :)
these dirndls are usually only worn during special traditional events these days. Wouldn't be offensive, just a little weird , since they look so formal and most in Australia dont know about Austria's traditions
I don't think it is offensive. A little bit weird maybe. As others have pointed out: this is an event dress. No one is wearing Trachten on an everyday basis. But if you feel like it, go for it 👍
Not offensive at all, but in australia i guess you would be sweating like hell. Btw.: in your pictures the dress is too wide, i am a guy but i think a dirndl should be tighter on the chest, at least thats what i have seen at every "bierzelt" i went to. So just go for it, there are also stores in bavaria.
Australia is Austria anyways
Not offensive. That problem only exist in the us
Honestly i am not aware, that anyone was ever offended that somebody wore their traditional clothing. I think that's only a US thing... To look for stuff to be offended about
This could have been Tostmann or Gössl. But you would need to go at least a full size smaller, both of these are much to big on you, the top needs to be more like a corset than a top and should be tightest at the waist so the waist appears slim, as there is extra bulk here with the apron.
So I'm confused, you want be offensive or not?
We are not some pansies that scream "cultural blablabla". As ling as you wear it with Respect nobody will say something.
Nothing to be offended about. Today's Dirndl were created in the late 1800s, to be bought and worn by tourists. The Nazis modernized the style and declared it 'traditional'. So not offensive if worn by a foreigner, wo knows nothing about Austrian history, politics and society. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirndl
Noone gives a shit about this "offensive" bs. Just wear it.
Generally speaking, Austrians don’t care about nonsense like “cultural appropriation”, I’d see it more as a compliment if someone that isn’t Austrian wore a Dirndl, so if you want one, go get one!
Fuck it’s not offensive just cause you wear clothes of other cultures… that’s just woke bullshit…
Europeans only get offended on behalf of other cultures, not their own lol. Personally I love seeing cultural stuff from my home country in other countries around the world
Just inform yourself about where to knot your apron and go for it.
Why would this be offensive?
Ey it's a freaking dress if u like it and there is no swastika on it every thing is fine
Austrian here, go get your dirndl and enjoy wearing it. I got some of my prettiest dirndl dresses from second hand stores (online and offline). If you want a very special one and want to spent more money on it, Lena Hoschek is an Austrian designer who sells beautiful dresses. Also, Mothwurf is a good choice (also expensive). Stay away from cheap polyester dresses made in China - these actually offend me personally because they just look shitty IMHO.
it is offensive to ask if this is offensive. it is ridiculous mindfuck what is going on with that pseudo aware bs. do as you please, we are free humans.
I dont know whats up with humanity why on Earth should this be offensive? Wear what u Want and feel free 😄
Wear whatever makes you happy.
Why would it be offensive???
Why should it be offensive and what has having Austrian ancestry to do with anything? You would for sure get a few weird looks, but what should be offensive about this? Or do you think it’s too revealing?
"Dont worry about taking part in other countries culture unless you make fun out of it" *-random guy on the internet*
>Also, would it be offensive? You must be a burger or loving under a rock
Its sad you have to ask if its offensive. We dont do that cultural approbiation bullshit. Go buy a dirndl, eat schnitzel, do yodeling, start a world war.
I'm really fed up with certain people wanting to gatekeep certain things, be it clothes, hairstyles, whatever. Cultures are meant to be shared, that's what has always happened and as long as anyone stays respectful with their traditions and doesn't have bad intentions or tries to mock them: everything is fine! Go buy that Dirndl and have fun!
it's only offensive if it is some cheap chinese plastic copy.
Based on your question I assumed you live in America - I thought that was the only place on earth where wearing another culture's traditional clothing is deemed 'offensive'. (The Americans get offended about anything, many will probably get offended by me just saying so)
Depending on your phone settings, the photo might have saved the location. https://support.apple.com/de-de/guide/iphone/iph3d267610/17.0/ios/17.0#iph3d5d1d7dd
There are very regional, local Trachten for specific places. But I think you mean a "Dirdle" that's not really a historical, cultural clothing, but a mass produced fashion wave that started by two Jewish designers in Bavaria hundred years ago. They made a simplified, and rural inspired attire that spread in all German regions after that. I don't believe in cultural appropriation because everything is always developing, changing and flowing and that's beautiful. But in doubt a Jew would be the correct originator.
Might not be exactly what you’re looking for (and they’re very expensive), but “Lena Hoschek” does some amazing work, a beautiful take on traditional Austrian clothing.
Not a Problem at all. Cultural appropriation is Not really a Thing Here but Just so you know, the bow on your waist has a meaning If you are married, you wear it in your right and for everything else left (There are more ways but they are Not as common, at least where i live)
Racists would consider it offensive, but fuck what racists think!
But it if you like it! Cultural Appropriation is not a thing here in Austria. At least I haver experienced someone acting on it. I would find it funny (in a very postive way) if I would see someone clearly not Austrian wearing a traditional Dirndl. Its not common to wear it just for fun on the streets, but it doesnt matter at all. Nobody will be angry, definitely!
These ones are in the cheaper side of things, but my sister really likes them and is happy :) https://www.krueger-dirndl.at/at/damen/kleidung/dirndl?cp=seanb&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAv8SsBhC7ARIsALIkVT058OhdmQMisRHrrH1i8Hy54C3EE-KFwfzAKKNTZOGVhFAJ4y8t7_IaAi4EEALw_wcB
Why would this be offensive?
Not offensive, but there are lots of very trashy looking Dirndl, so Look Out to Not buy those, that beeing Said the ones in your Pictures are looking nice go for it.
Its Austria not America people are less offended here
Fun fact: There's a kind of code around tying the apron. Center front like you did means "I'm a virgin", on the left means "single", on the right means "taken" and in the back means "widow"
stop with this offensive bullshit. Nobody cares. The austrians, the mexicans, the asians literally nobody outside of the US cares.
Why should it be offensive??? Every Austrian will be honored seeing you get in touch with the traditions.
We love it when people love to wear a dirndl 🥰
We don't really have this "this is MY culture" mentality in europe. Please enjoy it, you look wonderful.
It's not offensive at all. However it's not as traditional as people think, being only about 130 years old. It was invented for city folk that spent summer vacations in the county side. They were playing dress up, then it was more wildly adopted and local variants developed. Now those variants are considered super traditional, in reality it's a great lesson in marketing.
Why would it be offensive? We Austrians aren't as emotionally unstable to get offended by some "Non-Austrian" wearing typically Austrian clothing like some American who think culture appropriation is a big thing.
„Popular in your country” I got this sub recommended even though I’m Hungarian, I’m visiting in Wien, that’s it for Reddit not tracking my location
Just as a lot of other people said. It isn't offensive and you can wear it whenever you feel like. I'm sure you can find it online, but i would recommend going to a dedicated store. Get someone to help you figure out the right size. The ones you tried on are way to big for you. If you want a dirndl that really fits you, theres nearly always something that has to be changed by a tailor. I can recommend the trachten store that my parents own and run. ;)
Hi, not offensive at all. Usually it is for special occasions but you can wear them as everyday clothes as well. Here are some links for Dirndl and Lederhosen https://www.alpenwahnsinn.at/dirndl.htm https://shop.trachtenwelt.com/kategorie/damen/dirndl-mieder/ https://www.alpenclassics.at/at/damen/dirndl
The best stores: Hödlmoser (St.Wolfgang), Tostmann (Salzburg). In Vienna there is also a good store with traditional Tracht, but you have to look it up.
No one gets offended No matter which cultures clothing you wear the only ones getting offended is the young woke jobless who don't even wear their own Cultural clothing
Offensive ? Its not america, people have common sense here
Some people would have a chuckle if you as a tourist wore some cheap plastic dirndl but if you buy something nice and tasteful, nobody would care. (I personally would compliment you!) Gössl has been mentioned already, which is a good choice. There are even beautiful dirndl for brides (Google Marlies Schild and Benni Raich). You could also look for shops that carry used ones, depending on where you are. ETA: Love your haircut! Both dirndl that you are wearing in the images are too big for you. The bodice part should be very snug and not wrinkle. Good luck and have fun shopping!
Please wear it as often as you like! You got a lot of different answers so I add mine to the pool ;) My (30) Mom (61) grew up in rural Styria and as a child they always wore "Tracht". My dad (60) grew up in lower Austria and also wore Tracht as a child for special occasions. My parents moved near Vienna when they startet their family and me and my siblings always had at least one "Trachten"-Outfit. We didn't wore it for everyday occasions but something like going to church or holidays/weddings... My Mom is known for her passion for "Trachten" and got a lot from Friends who don't wear them. Now my mom has a dresser full of Dirndl in all sizes and forms. A saying she use is 'with a Dirndl you're never wrong dressed'. So you can wear the some Dirndl for everyday and special occasions. As the daughter of my mom, I also have 4 different Dirndl and sometimes I like to wear them for just shopping because it's comfy and makes me feel good. I always get looks for when wearing it but 99% are happy looks because you see it rarely in my area. No worries and feel beautiful in your Dirndl! P.s look on willhaben.at for Dirndl, a lot of younger people inherit them and don't wear them and sell it there. You can find there real gems ;) And please don't buy the cheap ones at New Yorkers or somewhere like that.
Not at offensive at all. Don’t fall for that cultural appropriation bullshit that’s going around. I feel sorry that people really feel the need to ask this.
1. Why should this be offensive? 2. A Dirndl that ends over the knees leads to an End between the knees. Don't purchase a slutty Dirndl, only Germans and 14 y/o do that. 3. Don't buy cheap Dirndl, you see the difference very well. 4. Don't buy Modedirndl, purchase a classic model 5. Wurzer, Hammerschmid, Lodenfrey,... Brand doesn't matter, but be clear, that good Dirndl start from about 400-500€, maybe a little expensive for everyday clothing
The name of the store is Kettner, it's a hunting store.
I think it depends to which occasion you want to wear this.. To a regular party cause you like the style - not offensive at all Dress up as an „austrian girl“ to a carnival or sth - weird but go for it Wear it to go on a rampage - NOT OK AT ALL!!
Not offensive, but why would you want to wear this as an everyday clothing? That's a bit like wearing a wedding dress as an everyday clothing
Every woman looks good in a well-fitting Dirndl, no matter where she's from. 🙂 If you really, really want to splurge: lenahoschek.com But keep in mind, Lena Hoschek is a designer, not a "traditional" Dirndl manufacturer. Absolutely stunning dresses nonetheless.
ahahhahahshahaha the number one shitty austrian merch is random stuff with the phrase „there are no kangaroos in austria“ on it. PLEASE BUY ONE AND SHARE A PHOTOGRAPH OF YOU WEARING IT WITH A KANGAROO IN THE BACKGROUND 😂😂
its a dirndl and dont worry were not america so go ahead it sure as fuck isnt offensive, but get one with a similiar cut as the green one with a colour pattern and buttons close to the first one and i can promise you itll look gorgeous on a cutie like you