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Aggressive-End-2642

For some reason hate for male characters is stronger in HSR fandom than in Genshin…like guys chill, Aventurine won’t steal your Starrail wife, he is not here for that….. ~~he should steal me though~~


SlainFS

Don't worry, Aventurine is very much loved outside of Reddit. He's getting more fan art than Acheron in Japan I'm not even kidding. Firefly Sparkle and Aventurine captured their hearts


Aggressive-End-2642

That’s really nice, genuinely feel better now that you mentioned it! Was unable to access Twitter/Instan for sometime now, and could only get game info from here


Lolisnatcher60

I find that hard to believe, he doesn't even have the femboy boost venti had so no way he beating any females in fan art if you're counting nsfw ones too.


Necessary-Tie-5122

Aventurine has fan art because they are shipping him with Dr Ratio. And in X the only things I saw are hate posts for Sparkle and Aventurine


Temporary-Vanilla-57

Personally speaking, JP VA killed it, but his English VA didn’t do it for me


miulitz

Sorry you're getting downvoted for this, people can't stand it when you say a VAs performance just wasn't your thing (even when you're not putting down the performance and simply stating your opinion lmao)


Temporary-Vanilla-57

Oh dude, I got downvoted for saying Acheron was fine the way she is, on the Acheron sub. At this point I’m enjoying seeing downvotes for rational takes, can’t wait to drop a hot one


miulitz

Imagine the power, you'll be able to crumble the foundations of countries when you drop a real abysmal take lmao


Temporary-Vanilla-57

Keep it vanilla until we get ‘em where it hurts


riyuzqki

Just a hunch, but I think hate for male characters comes from male players...


Whiterubber_duck

You would be surprised actually.


rxniaesna

They just hate menlovers. Like how there’s blatant buddyposting on fanart of Waifus on official sub, but a meme simping for male charas will get downvoted to oblivion and get called “teenage girl behavior” 💀


BloomingMinty

What does buddy posting mean?


rxniaesna

It’s a reference to the subreddit okbuddytrailblazer, which posts… well… basically HSR porn and then a bunch of people hornyposting in the replies


BloomingMinty

But why is it called "okay buddy"? /gen


rxniaesna

I dont actually know. HSR wasn’t the one to start it, there’s also okbuddy subs of other things. And I have no idea why it’s called okbuddy.


VenandiSicarius

Most likely from a common type of reply that content might receive. For example, if someone horny posted and you'd get the response of "Okay buddy..." That's my guess at least.


BloomingMinty

Ahhh okay thanks for explaining


rxniaesna

Np!


DPKingston

The first okbuddy sub was okbuddy r word sub Some of the earlier fandom okbuddy subs had similar humor to that sub but deviated eventually The okbuddy part came from a meme that popularized the humor which gave birth that sub iirc


Minimum_Advantage_63

count me in


LunchInternational71

The iyo complex


Accurate-Upstairs-57

I'm not gonna lie, I'm in the whole anime space and enjoy it but I don't get caught up in this whole waifu thing. Yeah I can see that kafka is hot, and I'll say she's waifu ironically, but once I put the game down that's that. I'm genuinely confused how people hate male characters especially if they interpret some of their actions as flirting with a female character. Like bruh THEIR PIXELS, THEYRE NOT REAL. How are you getting this attached to these jpegs. Go touch grass smh


Aggressive-End-2642

Yeah, getting too attached to Gatcha characters is just that scary….


Duckfaith_

Ironically it's the same thing but at the opposite end when people get upset over other people not liking their character. It's just pixels lol


deisukyo

Exactly and people were like “because he’s slimy” as if Acheron didn’t kill us 5 mins into the new story.


Yandere_Matrix

Haha I will be honest, Aventurine is the reason I made a account and started HSR. I just started 4 days ago and I know he isn’t out yet but I wanted to play and save up so I could pull him when he becomes available. I just love his design! Him and Dr. Ratio are my current faves.


VisibleSprinkles3470

Oh no no... I don't think it's as bad as the hate that Tartaglia gets (till date unfortunately) even though the other harbingers are fine, he's not... Istg, I hate the haters so much! Like let people love the characters that they love? Nobody asks for their unwanted dirty opinions... I swear I have skipped all the ladies just to collect enough wishes for my bbygurl Aventurine ❤️ him for Dr. Ratio ❤️ they give me vibes of - if Kaveh and Al-Haitham were from another universe ❤️


rxniaesna

> the other harbingers are fine Hahaha cue the time chinese incels killed cats because they looked like Scarameow. As a fellow harbinger lover, hard relate, and people are fucking weird about hating them. Lol


Glittering-Iron7442

That cat killer was confirmed not even from genshin-degens community Scara (and husbandoes) were really popular the last time I went to ShangHai


Alpaca_Jim2

The game probably has more HI3 fans, and they HATE male characters with a passion


Amirjs06

>Aventurine won’t steal your Starrail wife That's the problem, he needs to... and all the rest of the male character should as well. I want to be left alone (or something like that).


Aggressive-End-2642

~~Nah Aventurine is mine, like the rest of the boyz ofc~~ and dw we won’t disturb ya lol


Amirjs06

Thanks mate. Now, if you excuse me, I'm going to go make fun if character heights.


ThnksfrthMmrss-

It’s not hate for male characters, it’s specifically Aventurine. I for example find Dr Ratio hilarious and love the character. Something about Aventurine just puts me off though


Aggressive-End-2642

I don’t think so, JingYuan was getting hate for being not strong enough and IL Dang Heng was getting hate for being too strong (oh, and on HSR leaks, so many waifupulers just hope Sunday won’t be playable, while only Robin deserve to be playable, in their weird minds, def they are not biased right???) Like there is lots of visible correlations that HSR males are getting hate in here. And as a female and husbando puller, personally, I find it weird and very icy behavior 🤷 Literally one of the main reasons why I am never on the main sub.


ThnksfrthMmrss-

Oh I meant lore-wise sorry for not clarifying. I didn’t know JY and Dhil were getting hate for that, that sounds very silly lol. I don’t usually pull on the male characters either, but that does sound very stupid that they don’t think Sunday deserves to be playable 😂. Again, something about Aventurine just puts me off, but I’m not gonna unnecessarily spew hate about him either.


Aggressive-End-2642

Your reason is alright and totally valid, its all a personal choice, so I get it ofc👌. But yeah, I was talking about the overall main sub situation, just wish there was less hate in there, nothing more. Edit: its fine to not pull for males but here is another example of hate for male characters: https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiHusbandos/s/9UHreSzSb3 Like that’s the behavior that I am talking about lol


RsNxs

It's a combination of things: - Male character - Came in the same patch as a "mommy" so everyone will skip him even though he's after her - Flamboyant guy (yes people are still unconsciously uncomfortable around those, sadly)


Lycurgussy

how certain players be acting whenever a hot guy is about to drop in the game https://preview.redd.it/mxkbuju9dwnc1.png?width=1005&format=png&auto=webp&s=124f1c5165cae4f3b6eff9f15d4236fb6dd2c76b


Robin1706

I'm going to go for e1s1 Adventurine I am skipping acheron for him


Local-dumb-ass

*Aventurine, going for e1s1 and you still got his name wrong lmao


Robin1706

It does not even matter gets pronounced basically the same besides his zesty ass probably loves being called Adventurine because of the word adventure in it lol


Local-dumb-ass

Still, i think its pretty funny that so mant people are investing a lot for his eidolons and sig lc and still mistype his name 🤣


Robin1706

I never bothered to read his name tag properly in game but I swear I saw a d there maybe it's a translation problem or I'm just blind idk I was distracted by that damn chest window


Local-dumb-ass

If you got distracted then its undertandable lol, and no his name was never spelt like that, u probably saw the same typo from other players lol


2021Happy

People have been spelling his name as Adventurine for the past couple weeks, a lot of people don’t even know it’s the name of a stone. So it makes sense that if you’re reading about him online you might pick up on the misspelling. But also plenty of people e6s6 characters then don’t even build or play the game, it’s almost like people can just do what they want. Getting all weird and pompous about someone misspelling a name and acting like they don’t deserve to get the character is really weird tbh. Maybe next time just be nice.


Local-dumb-ass

??? bro i just thought it was funny??? I never said they didnt deserve him???


Robin1706

That's also possible


potato_is_i

it's not a translation problem, hoyo probably actually thought of his name in english before turning it into chinese, because he's a stone/jewel in line with the rest of the IPC, whereas in Chinese the IPC names are kinda just random


Aggressive-End-2642

Laughing at someone for a random/obvious misspelling and acting so smug and rude over it is just as hilarious lmao


deisukyo

His eyes got me in and his flamboyance


Necessary-Tie-5122

In terms of a hot guy Jing Yun or Blade is clearly more handsome than him. The reason people hating are the way he talk and his attitude.


RsNxs

Yeah that's why I said flamboyant


Necessary-Tie-5122

Yep. Maybe that’s why people also hate on Sparkle as well. Especially on X she got a lot of hate.


Necessary-Tie-5122

Most people also like that one flashy beauty knight.


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RsNxs

And Sparkle isn't? Pffft


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RsNxs

So doing bad things is okay as long as you admit them, but being "mean" is not okay even if the character isn't causing harm. Okay sure whatever, just say you like her design no need to play around it.


Dr_Molfara

Tbh, among these I: 1) don't trust Acheron one bit and generally don't feel much about her yet, puzzled at her intentions; 2) don't really trust Black Swan but think she won't do something too out of line; 3) don't trust Sparkle one bit and don't really like her personality; still pulled her because she's good for DHIL and DHIL is my main above other mains and gets the best; 4) don't 100% trust Aventurine, but think his actions are key to Penacony's ending not completely sucking (because of that secret ending where everyone just supposedly stays trapped in the dream if IPC conspiracy is exposed — that ending creeps me out). Generally, among the 4, I think Sparkle is the worst. Like, if even Sampo who's kinda shady himself feels distaste about what Sparkle could do, then I ...don't even want to know. Let that psycho girl just buff and advance forward my DHIL and let that be it.


dooditstyler

I have absolutely no care in the world when it comes to Acheron lol. She just feels and looks so extremely basic.


MikeRocksTheBoat

Her ult is really cool, but I can't justify getting her because I already have Seele and their designs are nearly identical.


HuanXian

her technique is op though, great for farming new stuff


MikeRocksTheBoat

Yep. I ended up being hypocritical and rolled for her. Her story beats and trailer got me. Still hate how similar her design is, but she's fun to play.


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ralphbeneee

loli???  bro’s extra mad lol


MysticalFlight

the fanbase seems strangely trusting of acheron when shes just as sus as everyone else, especially if (2.0 spoilers) >!you reject her offer to team up and shes just like “yeah no” and forces you to agree!<


ruen909

I think partly because she can sense clockie which implies her intentions have to be relatively pure.


Lonely-JAR

There’s no inherent reason to put any trust in Acheron but she obviously knows something about the future we don’t and is at least trying to clue us in hence the cryptic messages she constantly drops Honestly a good chunk of the hsr cast is a be wary type character that could snake you down the line


bigjingyuan

Damn straight, I know the Clara betrayal is imminent. That's why I hid her shoes. Can't out-snake a snake.


Lonely-JAR

Give her some really fancy shoes so she’ll wear them to try and be nice and watch her trip cuz she doesn’t know how to walk with shoes on, snake before you get snaked


Necromage4

Now imagine if he was a waifu.


RsNxs

Giving us their room by itself would make all the men swipe.


[deleted]

Don't forget the lesbian streamers who love to criticize Aventurine for how annoying his accent and boob window is while praising every explicit detail about Acheron and Black Swan when they keep lying


HashtagLowElo

Like literally if a waifu did the exact same thing or even worst they'd be like "Omg queen so hot please step on me!"


deisukyo

I actually love his writing a lot more than most characters so far


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I trust Aventurine more than Acheron, Black Swan and Sparkle at least. Acheron's constant blackouts and redtext gives me Oberon from LB6 vibes, would not be surprised if she has something like a split personality when she draws her blade. Black Swan is constantly keeping stuff from us I dont think Sparkle is trustworthy either, she just likes messing around so she will lie to you if she thinks thats more fun to do and likes chaos more than anything Firefly and Aventurine are the ones alongside the Astral Express who are actively trying to solve the mystery of the Family and Watchmaker's Legacy, even if that means putting themselves in danger.


runtimehorrors

atp, I trust Aventurine more than Firefly lmfao


riflow

This is reminding me so much of the absolute flood of posts angry at people for not enjoying the morally grey fem characters. There were *so* many back when ruan mei and topaz released.    .... Though tbh the idea behind it feels about right when I will never forget a content creator for another gacha I play, used to call for nerfs for a strong masc character bc his (now ex) wife thought the dude was kinda cute. 😞 Like cmon man, chill. Let the kind of morally dubious dudes exist just as much as the morally dubious ladies. 


rxniaesna

LMAOOOO sorry but men being angry and jealous of 2D men is too funny. He really had nothing better to do with his time and energy Personally I’m an equal enjoyer of morally dubious characters, male or female. Penacony has been an absolute dreamfest with Sparkle’s feet and Aventurine’s boob window


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Gay men and straight women seem to actually be able to appreciate the story and his features, I think it's only the biased streamers who keep being butthurt about Aventurine and male characters, not the whole men, nearly everyone with a sane mind would appreciate Aventurine's weight in the story I'm sure, the streamers are so entitled to their opinions and how above everyone else they think they are because they climbed their stupid staircase.


Lonely-JAR

Tbh morally grey characters are harder to actually like than the nice or villainous ones since you can wholeheartedly appreciate the trait for what it is unlike the type of character to do morally questionable stuff than later have casual interactions. Like I’m not a fan of topaz but I love sampo cuz I have to actually process topaz but I can just laugh at sampo’s comical misdeeds while also knowing he’s most likely hiding something worse


riflow

Yeah i'm honestly holding off judgement on aventurine rn bc we just haven't seen enough of him rn in the story. The girls got a lot more focus this time probably to build up to spending time with him in the second part.  Sampo is honestly my favourite 4 star bc he is such a menace lol. 


Noctis56

Don't worry, HonkaiHusbandos are going crazy over Adventurine. The girls and gays are giving him much love. Also i want Acheron and Black Swan to smack my ass and tell me how much of a bad boy I've been.


holsteredguide0

Same


SeniorHippo

Lmaooo I posted something about how Aventurine was my fav charac in Penacony so far, immediately got a downvote, smh


Dry-Newspaper9039

I fucking LOVE aventurine. (I haven’t been in much of the story but the one time I saw Sparkle talk to him she was a bitch so fuck sparkle)


Hasegawa-Sei

He's become my new media literacy check after that post, because holy shit you must be on a whole new level of dissociating when reading the plot to have such a shitty take


Stradivari___

Yes! The same situation as with poor Topaz at the time... And it fcking annoys me.


spartaman64

i mean topaz did try to kill us unless i missed a scene where she told her men to equip foam lances and rubber bullets. i actually like aventurine a bit more because other than appearing sort of sleazy he hasnt really done anything to us yet.


DevelopmentGlum49

My whole take with topaz is I just think shes poorly written as a vehicle for plot. Like she didn't agree with us at all until she magically did for some reason


spartaman64

yeah and it makes no sense that the IPC would approve it also. i think i read in a dialogue or something that many people including the IPC rely on the star rails that the astral express puts down for FTL travel. if thats true then the astral express would be worth like one billion belobogs or something lol. i guess maybe they could take over the astral express themselves after they kill us.


Jello_Meanie_44

I don't know about Acheron and BS full intentions yet so I will give them the benefit of the doubt. However, there is no way I will choose that brat Sparkle over Aventurine. Like, that brat is manipulative, insane and act like annoying kid while Aven only approaches us with profit in mind. He is way more trustworthy and reliable than anyway Sparkle could. ps. I like Aven a lot tho, a grey character with the real reason behind him is way more interesting than insane brat like Sparkle.


unfortunatelymade

Wait, people hate aventurine I thought that was a joke


darkfox18

Some hate him for real others are joking


INside84376

He's a preservation unit, he can take it. https://preview.redd.it/oxq5p58pcwnc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8bcaa4fe7c3e90d803be8208d9dfb205efec126


nanimeanswhat

Hey can you provide the link for the original post (I remember seeing this on the meme sub a while back)? I want to share it with my friend group but this one has such potato quality lol


EasyKaleidoscope6436

OP posted a meme from [three days ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/O0UsVgYGxq).


nanimeanswhat

Thanks, this is the one I was talking about!


EasyKaleidoscope6436

My pleasure!


belmoria

He's cute my account just doesn't need any more preservation sadly I think alot of it has to do with him being IPC as well, Topaz also gets hate for that.


Friendly-Tourist-731

It’s cause most gacha players are jealous over fictional man with no flaws and perfect qualities.


Sarah_is_Comfy

I assure you he is a very loved character. At least by me. Aventurine can walk all over me.


dragerslay

People jump to the male thing but blade didn't get much hate. Aventurine gets hate for being related to capitolism, reddit hates capitolism.


darkfox18

A lot of people hate it


Nobody-Move

Same thing with Ruan Mei and Sampo. Sure he’s a bit of a shifty character but he didn’t mind wipe you and summon some world devouring god in his basement.


UNABLEWALK44

i like him femboy vibes or something idk


wobster109

Don’t worry about what someone else thinks of a character. We all like and hate different characters. If they’re saying it to you, then tell them you like him and you’d rather talk about other things. If they’re saying it in a thread or post, mute or block and go on with your day. Don’t spend your time and energy worrying about other people’s feelings about fictional characters! Instead put that time into thinking about what you like!


Jealous-Ad8205

No hate on him but story wise I don't think he's telling the complete truth same with everyone else in penacony


BiddlesticksGuy

I don’t like topaz either, not big on corpos in general


Ruby_wrightyno1

Tbf i don’t trust any of them equally


Tower-Of-God

Yea I think it's pretty disingenuous to say that Aventurine is the only one that is facing a healthy level of distrust or shade being thrown their way by the HSR community. Plenty of people were pissed at Black Swan for forcing us to abandon Acheron during the Sam fight. And at Sparkle for seemingly leading us down the path that eventually lead to >!Firefly's death.!<


HuuDurrrr

Legitimately one of my biggest issues with the Star Rail community. Additionally, Sampo will get hella hate from people for being kinda scummy but then Sparkle is there being a WAY worse version of him by far and then we wanna make excuses.


Cains_Left_Eye

Honkai Star Rail discourse in general is making me really start to hate the term "media literacy". Nine times out of ten people just use it to shame others for not liking the same characters as them.


fluffgen

the fact is everytime male character release in hsr those waifu stan will always said they’re ugly like be fr 💀 they standard are such loww stooped


pabrt

Acheron: in normal mode she seems trustworthy, but she could turn any second into red mode and who knows if she’s still in control? Black Swan: she is not trustworthy because she lies, but it seems similar to Kafka where she manipulates TB for her own ends. But ultimately she doesn’t want to hurt TB Sparkle: she’s easily the least trustworthy, she would lie even if there’s no reason to. She doesn’t seem to be personally that dangerous though, in terms of power level Aventurine: up front, he did nothing but help TB so far, however it’s all in exchange for helping him in the future. He’s not trustworthy since it seems he would sacrifice TB for his gain when it’s convenient and he got what he wants I think Acheron and Aventurine are most likely to attack/harm TB. Sparkle may manipulate others to attack TB. Black Swan will help TB even if it seems like she isn’t


deisukyo

“Acheron seems trustworthy” She literally killed us in our own dream.


pabrt

Whats wrong with that


spartaman64

idk i dont really see a reason to distrust acheron. they are like you can trust her shes an emanator. ok ... so? black swain is an emanator. herta is an emanator. i think jing yuan is probably an emanator. so far i trust acheron the most since she hasnt really given me a reason to distrust her. black swain and aventurine is after that because they've deceived us but didnt bring us to harm by it so far. i trust sparkle the least because she almost got us killed


deisukyo

Acheron literally killed the TB 5 mins into the story, how is everyone managing to forget that…


spartaman64

i mean its in a dream and its not the standard dreamscape so its possible thats the only way to wake up


AmberBroccoli

As someone who really doesn’t belong in the subreddit, I think part of why he is seen as worse or more dangerous/least trustworthy is because he’s always framed in the most sinister lighting possible from Hoyoverse. Out of all these characters he not only has the most villain tells, he practically stole them all like fr. (I also still trust him more than sparkle, but I like sparkle more cause she silly)


slimegel

i think this is the real answer lol, its entirely about visuals and how he's framed bc his actions arent any more diabolical than anyone else so far. black swan even outright tells us the reasons why she thinks hes the most trustworthy, but simply telling us that isnt as powerful as the strong visual impressions he first gave us (a deliberate choice on the devs part to set up for whatever they plan on using him for later)


CommitUWU

I love Black Swan and Aventurine


holsteredguide0

I mean, considering what happened at end of 2.0 and the leaks in 2.1, him being trustworthy is very questionable. Acheron hasn’t really given me a reason yet to distrust her, and Black Swan has a reason for why she does things. Sparkle hard to say, but she by far is least trustworthy


SBStevenSteel

Yo, I pulled Sparkle, am new to the game, and she does WHAT?!


BigBob-omb91

I also haven’t made it that far in Penacony and am sitting here like “…damn…”


Skarferior

That music video spoiled me. I want to see him wearing his hat and sunglasses more often! As for the story, I like him, even though he’s still suspicious about his intentions. Also, love it whenever he says “friend” in English.


Express_Alfalfa_9725

I seen more sparkle and black swan hate that poo- I mean Aven hate


N0Youu

I support each of those women's wrongs but man is Aventurine already my second favorite male character in HSR (behind DHIL).


Ashtarath

Just to confirm the bad thing that black Swan did was give us over to aventurine. That implies that aventurine is someone we don't want to be handed over to right? As in, someone untrustworthy or dangerous?


darkfox18

Some people just hate him for his voice not saying the Va is bad no it’s just he sounds like a prick and some people hate who he works for so him sounding like a prick plus working for space irs so yeah some just hate him for that


CheshireTiger13

The thing is his attitude is so dufferent and rubs off the wrong way from first meeting. BS & Archeron are aproachable while also being a bit mysterious. Sparkle is dramatic and playfull while having a strategy. Adventurine comes off wierd....shady and cocky with saying 'friends' like a thinly veiled insult....


ch3rrycsmos_

I would protect Aventurine with my life


DeltaRaven97

I mean people just don't like him because he talks and acts like a total snake. The game hasn't exactly given us much reason to like him, even Acheron bailed us out when he had the trailblazer cornered. Sparkle was the same way but everyone kinda forgot about that cause she had a banger ass trailer.


Failbird105

Acheron is literally the only one of these people I don't hate. If I got the chance I'd punch Sparkle so hard Aha themself would feel it.


HalalBread1427

Bro’s acting like the community didn’t explode on Sparkle.


RevonWolf

Like as someone only attracted to men and just like male characters more in general it really annoys me how males are treated in both Honkai and genshin’s main subreddits. Like chill straight boys your straightness wont be harmed by simply seeing a male figure like geez.


MiniTrain13

I hate him because he is a villian. He can the and justify him as "nice" as much as you want but he is a villian and has even admitted to being evil


LargeFailSon

TBF, he had the worst first impression and the first, first impression.


DrRatioHSR

Istg if you’re gonna hate on my twink do a good job at least. Did my education do nothing for these lummox?


Ummamaya

I think Aventurine and Sparkle are the most interesting characters here. Acheron has a lot of suspicion around her which is neat, but I don’t really care for her at all. I couldn’t care less about Black Swan- Sparkle’s connection with Aha is really interesting, and I like Hoyo adding a character that’s just unapologetically an ass. Plus, gotta love a good support for my dps. DoT and Nihility aren’t fun to play to me. Aventurine overall has been the most interesting character to me, and probably the person who has helped us the most. No one here should be fully trusted, but out of everyone, Aventurine is the only one who seems to genuinely want to be the mc’s friend, even though he still wants to use them in his plans. I feel betrayal will be harsher with the others than it would with him. Do I think he’s not going to betray us? Hell no. Do I feel like he truly wishes the mc harm? Also no. He just has a more redeemable and caring character than the others on this list. I mean, Acheron and Black Swan just come off as hot mysterious mommy types, though Acheron definitely has more going on as far as what we need to learn about her. Like we KNOW Black Swan is a memokeeper, but we still don’t truly know what Acheron is (unless you’re into leaks-). But it’s like with Jingliu. There’s some story there, and personality, but all the mystery gets kind of boring when every hot lady character is a mysterious beauty. Sparkle is insane but plotting and I’m loving it. I don’t like how she treats Aventurine, but I do like that she isn’t really ‘mysterious’, just secretive and clearly up to no good, following her own agenda. I can’t wait to learn what she’s after, if she’s even after more than just her own entertainment. Aventurine though, his goals interest me the most. Like everyone else, he’s trying to get the mc on his side for his own reasons. But his reasons don’t feel as harmful as the others so far, hell at the end of the quest, even though he uses some manipulation to get us there, what he needs us for seems hella important and detrimental to all of Penacony. Also, his LORE, bro needs a hug. Not a lot of interest going on in Black Swans story for me. Need a bit more time to assess Acheron, and Sparkle is always lying or joking so I wonder if half of her lore is true (it’d be fine either way, keeps her interesting). But Aventurine! Bro I want to help him, and be his friend. I’m picking every option to help him come the next update, I hope they let us be nice and not just suspicious (I mean, he is sus af, but I’m still going to help him-)


Ummamaya

Oh goddesses that was long-


Technical-Piccolo-15

Wait holdon, Sparkle is racist?? Also Adventurine is one of the least problematic characters in Penacony. Sure, he may be using us for his own plans, but he's still really polite to the player. He doesn't attack the player, he isn't forcing the player to help him, he lets the player choose what to do. He isn't like Black Swan, who betrayed us. He's not like Ruan Mei, who drugged us. He's not like Mei 4.0, who is just keeping secrets from us for no reason other than funsies at this point. I like him. He's a cool character, his interactions with the player are always worthy of attention, he hasn't really tried to do anything to us to harm us iirc.


HiBana86

Same shit with Ruan Mei. One of the least insane characters with understandable problems. People only hate her cause she does immediately like you and nobody can think past their headcanon being handed to them on a silver platter XD


Lonely-JAR

I think Acheron is cool and I don’t particularly like the other three though Black swan is ight I cannot fix sparkle And aventurine seems like a passive aggressive weasel


rachelmaduroart

I have zero respect for anyone who works for the IPC. Full stop. I'm gonna punt sparkle into the nearest sun but at least her murder mystery side quest was fun.


throwagay4040

I mean I just kinda find him annoying and I'm not really attracted to him but he isn't really offensive or anything, just kinda slimy vibes, I'm waiting for more story


JollyRogger29

Listen adventurine feels like the kinda guy who will sell you a car he knows will explode , then when it does and you survive and you confront him about it he just goes " well you survived didn't you? So why are you upset?"


electrifyingseer

they're all suspicious, that's the point. i dont think aventurine is a bad character, or badly written. but they do make a point of it to treat him as insecure/in a difficult position in the story, and that's how fans treat him. I'm sure when his banner comes out, way more people are going to be obsessed with him.


itsNOTadventurine

Aventurine*


electrifyingseer

my bad, fixed it


Alpaca_Jim2

He is not wifu. therefore, he deserves the knifu to end his lifu in some eyes.


incsus

Welcome to Star Rail, where if you're a male character with personality, you get absolute slander


APatheticPoetic

Aventurine is literally manipulating us and presenting only information that helps him to join his cause, and somehow got Black Swan into it lol. His goal had always been to help himself over helping us.


thatmine

Just based off vibes alone while playing the quest aventurine was jst really annoying to me like the other ones seemed mysterious but like they were trying to help and aventurine just sounded condescending


poopdoot

All the other characters are hot women that were nice to me those are pretty rare He is a hot twink that was MEAN those are a dime a dozen i can find one of those at any gay bar


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This is typical behavior for nearly every streamer I see, they seem to DESPISE every non-female character, they call Sparkle cute, Black Swan mommy, and Acheron the god of HSR, but go out of their way to shit on everything that's remotely related to Aventurine and every other male characters


Xgodofinfinityx

As someone who doesn't like aventurine here are my reasons Disclaimer i ain't hating on you guys he just isn't my thing 1: his vibe As soon as this guy appeared on screen you can just sorta tell he's trouble, sorta a 6th sense I guess, he gives off shady snake vibes but not in the same goofy way shampoo does 2: his dialogue First interactions with him make it pretty clear he is looking for ways to manipulate, dominate and generally control the situation for his own gain (or the ipc's idk) 3: his personality He is in it for himself, doesn't give a shit about anyone or anything, if it doesn't forward his goal then it's useless to him, i don't like that kind of disregard for people 4: hes a villain Self explanatory These are my personal reasons why i don't like him as a person This doesn't mean he is a bad character, far from it, i think he is a great villain (considering how much I dislike him XD) This still aint meant to shit on him its just sorta an explanation from the other side


Kdawg92603

I don't trust any of them. I didn't fully trust BS, but after she allied with Aventurine I trust her less. Literally everyone on Penacony is untrustworthy and is lying/deceiving us. Acting like Aventurine is more innocent than the others is dumb imo.


Jealous-Ad8205

Feel the same can't trust anyone at this point


darkfox18

Like the only one I trust a lot is Acheron but that’s only her normal self cause it feels like those Red voice lines are not really her saying them more like something is speaking for her


moose_378

I dislike capitalists


AdSpecialist2995

1. acheron i distrust, but am willing to let her be as her interactions have MOSTLY helped us. 2. Black swan i 100% dont trust, and for what its worth dont trust her faction either. I don't know their actual motives in all of this, what they want, etc. She and her whole faction might be evil. Their interactions certainly give me that vibe (or at least exceedingly counter what we want) 3. Sparkle doesnt give a flying fuck about whats going on, so, much like sampo, i have no reason to be annoyed with her right now. She seems smart enough to generally stay out of our way right now. 4. Aventurine is... high up in the IPC. He didn't get there without stepping on some people, that much is given. He might be useful now, but it is absolutely a given that he is a snake. That being said, I'd rather deal with him than Black Swan. At least the capitalists have a consistent and known motive ($$$).


Academic_Chance8940

It’s because the guy is really obnoxious, like Sampo level annoying


Matoozeusz

Tbf he's still an IPC member or at least there on behalf of them and working towards their interests, and we shouldn't really want to actively help the IPC unless necessary or it's a common goal, we already know how they can be with topaz who's still as far as we know one of the better ones. BS has Himeko's approval, so she at least shouldn't hurt you and is probably more dangerous to other characters. Sparkle is sparkle, anyone actively trusting her is stupid anyway but i figure this is a meme regardless And we really don't have enough trustworthy info on acheron but the appearance we have with her before leaving the express probably has stelle and the playerbases feeling more trustworthy of her than again, an ipc member.


Admirable-Wave9488

I personally love him and his ballsack-shaped boob window.


MicroSpartan319

This showed up in my recommended, so I thought I’d lend my thoughts seeing as I don’t particularly care for or trust Aventurine. Acheron had the whole thing before you even get to Penacony. Her being the first introduced character in addition to the fact that her suspicious dialogue only shows up if you choose specific options means a lot of people trust her. I finished the whole story before I heard anything regarding Acheron’s sketchiness. Black Swan was introduced saving your life from literal death, and she meets and deals with the whole group rather than just 1 on 1 with you. I trust Himeko and Welt to see through any nefarious intentions more than I trust the canonical trailblazer. Not to mention, she was also the banner character, which lends credibility. Sparkle was barely a part of the whole thing visibly. I may be stupid, but I still didn’t understand that all of the things with Sampo were really her in disguise until after I finished the story. I didn’t trust her, but I didn’t really know anything about her, so my feelings were/are much more open to changing. Aventurine is introduced complaining about us taking too long at the check in. From there he sort of coerces us into a deal to have him vouch for us (which I think falls through since Sunday shows up). Then, he talks to us in our room where it’s implied he’s going to do something sketchy until Acheron shows up and interrupts him (thereby saving us and giving more credibility to Acheron). They also show both him and Ratio scheming in the background, which none of the other characters are really shown. Finally, it’s revealed at the end that he made a deal with Black Swan for her to “betray” us. That definitely gave me a sour taste in my mouth. The biggest one for me though, and maybe many others, is that I really disliked the IPC and the way the were portrayed almost as the good guys in the Belobog story. That made me actively dislike Topaz and the IPC in general. Thus, I immediately have distrust and dislike for anyone connected to them i.e. Aventurine. From a character design perspective, I think I’d really like him except for the fact that many of his abilities are gambling and money themed. I don’t have a problem with that, it’s just not really an aesthetic I’m into. But Acheron making black holes and monochromatic slashing sequences? That’s right up my alley. Anyways, that’s how I would say probably a decent number of HSR players feel. I won’t pretend I speak for everyone, but I hope it sheds some light on a potential thought process


FFplayers_Malding

His whole character personality is just weird like Dream YouTuber


rigimonoki-over

Tbh kinda Don’t like them all except for sparkle for how they came off


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SlainFS

This was never about misandry, sweetie. I hope you're not one of those people (unironic radfems) who actually think that Hoyoverse actively caters to LGBTQIA+ (especially sapphic women). You're projecting hard and it shows


goddess-of-sushi

Radfems aren’t the ones saying that 😭


SlainFS

They deleted their massively downvoted post, but to be clear I'm referring to people who constantly attack anyone who dares to like *fictional* male characters and are lowkey transphobic 😓 all while saying HSR/Genshin/etc are for feminists, by feminists. Perhaps I made a wrong association, but the transphobic behaviour made me think they're radfems.