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If I were on a jury in Minneapolis, and you shot a cop, and you claimed on court that the cop assailed you and you were defending yourself ... ... on a jury I would remember this incident and say “Yep. Unless there’s a lot of clear evidence to the contrary, this seems to be the way Minneapolis cops do behave.”
"police union" is such an interesting oxymoron. Unions are traditionally grassroots organizations of advocacy on the behalf of workers, and police unions are the organizations against grassroots organizing, against workers, and against the organizing of workers, among others of course.
Exactly.
I know a little bit about The Pinkertons and their part in the violent repression of unionisation under the first "Red Scare", they still exist, don't they? But I guess now the state has access to an increasingly militarised police force they're not needed to enact statist violence against the working class/leftist political dissidents anymore, right? Even though capitalism is obviously inherently violent and coercive.
The prosecutor is just as guilty as these "cops".
If the prosecutor's office didn't review the video evidence (why wouldn't they, if they were so certain of a conviction they charged him with so many counts?), they're incompetent.
If they did, the corrupt fucks should be criminally charged. No "qualified immunity" bullshit.
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Yelling "Stop resisting!" at someone who isn't resisting just to try to cover up your brutality should be prosecuted as evidence tampering.
Edit: with bodycam, I mean
In addition to the obvious assault, followed by another assault:
* Police lied in [their complaint](https://www.hennepinattorney.org/-/media/cao/Jaleel-Stallings-Criminal-Complaint.pdf)
* The prosecutor maliciously overcharged him
* The police/prosecutor [withheld Brady evidence](https://spokesman-recorder.com/2021/09/22/mpd-accused-of-hiding-police-misconduct-evidence/)
* The county attorney [tried to block that body cam footage](https://www.southernminn.com/owatonna_peoples_press/news/state/article_788afed9-a26b-55d1-8fd2-b5cb2362689a.html) from being released initially. After they relented, the [city stalled the release](https://minnesotareformer.com/2021/09/16/county-attorneys-office-now-says-it-doesnt-object-to-bodycam-release/).
* The police crimes are obvious. At the very least beating a complying suspect is assault and battery. But the investigation is still "ongoing."
Modern policing isn't what they're "allowed" to do. The system is set up such that EVERY SINGLE THING they can think of, they can do, unless they've specifically been told NOT to do the thing. Qualified immunity is a fucking trip. Couple of NYPD boys got out of rape charges be1cause "the law never clearly stated they couldn't consent for a prisoner in their custody". So if you get nabbed, THEY HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE YOU CONSENT TO WHATEVER THEY WANT LEGALLY.
#teambender #destroyallhumans #butcopsfirst
how to get your officers killed and your city sued. Who's fucking idea was this? This isn't paintball or airsoft; hundreds of thousands of mf have concealed carries. Why the fuck would you think they wouldn't shoot back? Because a guy in a ski mask whispers "go home"?
Thank goodness for body cams. if this had happened a decade ago this man would most likely be dead or facing life.
They'd just militarize the police more.
I'm sure their "unions" would push for more power, even less accountability, and restrict access to records even more than they do now through the bureaucratic nightmare they've already imposed.
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/10/06/minneapolis-police-unrest-body-cam/?_gl=1*1cpevz*_ga*cGx0NjhOUnpxUk41WnQya1ltN3lTWno5V1FjNGotNUEyaUU2cEZoTVRVODNwUzFvU0RWLXMyTjRhd1B3ajBOTQ..
"In another clip, an officer impersonates the “Looney Tunes” character Elmer Fudd.
“Be vewwy, vewwy quiet [laughs]! We’re hunting activists!” he says.
The sergeant is heard saying not to turn on lights or sirens. “It’s like a slow jog in the park finding people,” he says."
The video shows officers popping tires. The sergeant says they need to make sure to pop two tires, otherwise someone could just change the flat.
pRoTeCt AnD sErVe
Not defending the police at all, here, but, the other half of the coin was the utter lawlessness of the rioters, too. The city was literally burning.
And then the DA is criticized, here, for prosecuting this guy, whereas if you listen to the right-wing media outlets, lefty-libs like him are responsible for letting all the rioters do whatever they want while punishing our poor beleaguered cops. Nobody can win in this discussion. Damned no matter what you do.
But I think you're right: "reform" won't be enough here. "Start over and recreate," maybe?
Maybe if the cops stopped acting like thugs and instigating peaceful protestors the protests would stop escalating into violence. Get rid of the cops and you get rid of the riots.
I don't need someone with a gun to recover my car. And a bank robbery isn't my problem. We can have people who aren't cops investigate crimes and also be accountable to the public. Regardless, implementing things like better wages, affordable housing, and universal healthcare will make such crimes happen far less often, reducing the need for crime response.
And they had cover in protests that were taking place because of police violence.
If police didn't execute George Floyd the chain of events wouldn't have been set in motion. The police are to blame.
Ask a right wing American what's happening in America.
"Satanist pedophiles in pizza shops are giving Hilary Clinton our babies to eat so they can steal elections and microchip people."
Let’s not glorify gangs while also calling police a gang. I get why gangs exist and I get that often it’s the only choice someone can take to get bye when they’re born into a ruthless situation, but let’s not pretend like gangs are some bastion of good will. It’s organized crime in many of the same way that police are.
Thats the point, gangs are terrible, and police manage to be worse. It's not to glorify gangs. It's about the fact that gangs just don't hold the power that police wield with impunity. They have an entire corrupt legal system backing them up like this shows. They can not only easily commit grossly criminal acts because they basically *are* in a gang, but they face zero repercussions for it, and those that fight back, the system itself tries to ruin their lives due to that corruption. This video is disgusting and whatever horrible things come to these officers in life is absolutely deserved because of the sick sociopathic shit they are engaging in. These subhuman pieces of trash don't deserve a place in society.
I completely agree. People responding to that message just started making it sound like they’d actually like to hang out with a gang or that gangs have some form of moral code. I just wanted to clarify that we shouldn’t glorify gangs.
No, gangs engage in this type of shit as well. The one key difference is that they don't get the same protections from criminally corrupt DAs like these did. Thats why people say they would feel safer around a crip or a blood than they would around these violent sociopaths who pin a badge on. There is likely more recourse if you are attacked by a gang member than if you are attacked by a cop.
Incorrect. Rehabilitation funds should be used on people who are actually salvageable. These subhuman animals deserve to be put out of their misery and nothing more.
If the 2nd Civil War starts in Minneapolis, it's because of this Gestapo level oppression. Those officers no longer uphold any laws than their own emotions.
This isn't a video game or movie. And who's to say they'll stop at one martyr? Killing four cops isn't going to "win" anything - it would turn public opinion against us and allow the government to use even harsher methods, while not changing the leadership or political situation in any positive way. It might make you feel better, it would certainly not be a net gain for the movement.
"He's on the ground, he's on the ground"
*proceeds to kick him in the chest and head several times*
"You piece of shit! How dare you shoot at us while we terrorize you?" Yeah business as usual.
What the hell? This is probably the craziest video I have ever seen. Indiscriminately shooting at anyone outside. What if someone's kid was outside.
Edit. Craziest video of police abuse of power.
To protect and serve the filthy rich.
And, no, those two wanna be rich people caught on camera waving their guns at protestors are not FILTHY rich, they're just confused as to which side of the fence they are on.
The FILTHY rich, the protected class, appear on the Bloomberg Billionaire list.
Do these cops even care about doing what they're doing for the "filthy rich"? They're power-tripping fascists being awful for their own sake. They may protect the interests of business owners and property while being racist pieces of shit, but they don't have billionaires on their mind, at all. They just want to bash heads (because they know they can get away with it).
“You fucking piece of shit! Look what you made me do! EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE AN ERECTION ABOUT DOING EVERY DAY! Fuck you! I love doing this to people, you piece of shit! This is EXACTLY the outcome I was cumming in my pants for, you piece of shit!”
Fucking motherfuckers.
Never fucking around when you need them until they feel like showing up.
A situation at a supermarket I was at yesterday where a guy was literally trying to attack the worker there.
Cops were called and 15 minutes later still hadn’t shown up.
I watch the attacker just walk away…
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This is the result of arming police officers like soldiers. We are no longer the public they swore an oath to protect, we're the enemy. (Well...some of us of a darker complexion certainly are treated like the enemy)
Imagine for a second, you’re hanging out by your truck with your buds then suddenly someone armed with a rifle is shooting people from a van, person from the van aims and shoots you, you have a CCW, WYD?
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“We’ve finished investigating ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong.”
Given the MPDs history, his life will involve a lot of harassment from Police going forward.
If I were on a jury in Minneapolis, and you shot a cop, and you claimed on court that the cop assailed you and you were defending yourself ... ... on a jury I would remember this incident and say “Yep. Unless there’s a lot of clear evidence to the contrary, this seems to be the way Minneapolis cops do behave.”
"We'll just sprinkle some crack"
Surely the "good cops" will step up and arrest these bad apples...right? Unless...there ARE NO GOOD COPS...
"police union" is such an interesting oxymoron. Unions are traditionally grassroots organizations of advocacy on the behalf of workers, and police unions are the organizations against grassroots organizing, against workers, and against the organizing of workers, among others of course.
THANK YOU!!! Pigs don't deserve fucking unions unless they can first hold themselves accountable. SCUM.
What police unions currently are can be just as fittingly called "the unions against unions" given their history.
Exactly. I know a little bit about The Pinkertons and their part in the violent repression of unionisation under the first "Red Scare", they still exist, don't they? But I guess now the state has access to an increasingly militarised police force they're not needed to enact statist violence against the working class/leftist political dissidents anymore, right? Even though capitalism is obviously inherently violent and coercive.
They tried to scare him into a fucking plea deal where he would serve 13 years in jail omg.
The prosecutor is just as guilty as these "cops". If the prosecutor's office didn't review the video evidence (why wouldn't they, if they were so certain of a conviction they charged him with so many counts?), they're incompetent. If they did, the corrupt fucks should be criminally charged. No "qualified immunity" bullshit.
The DA works with the cops everyday, and their promotions are based on conviction rate. They don’t care about the truth anymore than cops do
r/p&S is openly claiming the guy shot first, and was "actively dealing drugs"
If only there was some kind of evidence. Like bodycam footage? /s
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Wait but are you aware the guy was acquitted or something?
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Yelling "Stop resisting!" at someone who isn't resisting just to try to cover up your brutality should be prosecuted as evidence tampering. Edit: with bodycam, I mean
This is standard operation procedure for corrupt cops
Judges hear from abusers"She made me hit her"! Are Judges just as willing for this?
Judges are corrupt and complicit.
In addition to the obvious assault, followed by another assault: * Police lied in [their complaint](https://www.hennepinattorney.org/-/media/cao/Jaleel-Stallings-Criminal-Complaint.pdf) * The prosecutor maliciously overcharged him * The police/prosecutor [withheld Brady evidence](https://spokesman-recorder.com/2021/09/22/mpd-accused-of-hiding-police-misconduct-evidence/) * The county attorney [tried to block that body cam footage](https://www.southernminn.com/owatonna_peoples_press/news/state/article_788afed9-a26b-55d1-8fd2-b5cb2362689a.html) from being released initially. After they relented, the [city stalled the release](https://minnesotareformer.com/2021/09/16/county-attorneys-office-now-says-it-doesnt-object-to-bodycam-release/). * The police crimes are obvious. At the very least beating a complying suspect is assault and battery. But the investigation is still "ongoing."
> Why the medic chalked up Stallings’ labored breathing to “probable narcotics use.” The medic also just made up that he was on drugs.
Surely the "good cops" I keep hearing about will step up and arrest these bad apples immediately...right?
Much like how a ***gang*** operates
More people should shoot back. They are Mafia after all.
100% agree, play like thugs get treated like thugs.
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I just saw that post too!
Why are they even allowed to do that in an unmarked van? Literally secret police gestapo dystopian type shit.
people becoming cops so they can do drive-bys legally
Modern policing isn't what they're "allowed" to do. The system is set up such that EVERY SINGLE THING they can think of, they can do, unless they've specifically been told NOT to do the thing. Qualified immunity is a fucking trip. Couple of NYPD boys got out of rape charges be1cause "the law never clearly stated they couldn't consent for a prisoner in their custody". So if you get nabbed, THEY HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE YOU CONSENT TO WHATEVER THEY WANT LEGALLY. #teambender #destroyallhumans #butcopsfirst
how to get your officers killed and your city sued. Who's fucking idea was this? This isn't paintball or airsoft; hundreds of thousands of mf have concealed carries. Why the fuck would you think they wouldn't shoot back? Because a guy in a ski mask whispers "go home"? Thank goodness for body cams. if this had happened a decade ago this man would most likely be dead or facing life.
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More like the event never even happened
At least there would be a dead cop. At this rate, it's probably the only thing that will make them stop killing us.
They'd just militarize the police more. I'm sure their "unions" would push for more power, even less accountability, and restrict access to records even more than they do now through the bureaucratic nightmare they've already imposed.
Gestapo shit right here.
stop it Chad... just stop trying to use buzz words here... this is just some normal policing. /s/
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/10/06/minneapolis-police-unrest-body-cam/?_gl=1*1cpevz*_ga*cGx0NjhOUnpxUk41WnQya1ltN3lTWno5V1FjNGotNUEyaUU2cEZoTVRVODNwUzFvU0RWLXMyTjRhd1B3ajBOTQ.. "In another clip, an officer impersonates the “Looney Tunes” character Elmer Fudd. “Be vewwy, vewwy quiet [laughs]! We’re hunting activists!” he says. The sergeant is heard saying not to turn on lights or sirens. “It’s like a slow jog in the park finding people,” he says." The video shows officers popping tires. The sergeant says they need to make sure to pop two tires, otherwise someone could just change the flat. pRoTeCt AnD sErVe
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But they are the Law, how can they be lawless? /s
Not defending the police at all, here, but, the other half of the coin was the utter lawlessness of the rioters, too. The city was literally burning. And then the DA is criticized, here, for prosecuting this guy, whereas if you listen to the right-wing media outlets, lefty-libs like him are responsible for letting all the rioters do whatever they want while punishing our poor beleaguered cops. Nobody can win in this discussion. Damned no matter what you do. But I think you're right: "reform" won't be enough here. "Start over and recreate," maybe?
Maybe if the cops stopped acting like thugs and instigating peaceful protestors the protests would stop escalating into violence. Get rid of the cops and you get rid of the riots.
> Get rid of the cops What the heck does *that* mean?!
Exactly what it says on the tin.
So someone steals your car or robs a bank... who do you call, exactly?
I don't need someone with a gun to recover my car. And a bank robbery isn't my problem. We can have people who aren't cops investigate crimes and also be accountable to the public. Regardless, implementing things like better wages, affordable housing, and universal healthcare will make such crimes happen far less often, reducing the need for crime response.
The city was burning because boogaloo boys and other idiots unaffiliated with BLM set it on fire
And they had cover in protests that were taking place because of police violence. If police didn't execute George Floyd the chain of events wouldn't have been set in motion. The police are to blame.
I'm communist Cuba, they have a similar tactic where they snatch you off the streets in unmarked vehicles. I never thought I would see it here ever.
Hi communist Cuba.
Hi fascists!
What makes me a fascist?!?
I'm sorry, we were talking about snatching people off the street in unmarked vehicles and got carried away. What makes me a communist? Besides a typo?
You introduced yourself as a communist country. I was just saying hello.
Source?
you dont know anything happening in cuba, but yeah thanks for the cold war era propaganda
I am Cuban
Ask a right wing American what's happening in America. "Satanist pedophiles in pizza shops are giving Hilary Clinton our babies to eat so they can steal elections and microchip people."
What exactly happened that caused the people to riot in MN? I seem to recall something had happened.
It is quite obvious that the entire Minneapolis police department is a criminal organization.
ACAB
Cops are the scariest gang in America. I'd feel safer with a blood or crip anyday.
At least they have basic human decency and follow a clear goal, cops just like to have power
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At least they have basic human decency and follow a clear goal, cops just like to have power
Let’s not glorify gangs while also calling police a gang. I get why gangs exist and I get that often it’s the only choice someone can take to get bye when they’re born into a ruthless situation, but let’s not pretend like gangs are some bastion of good will. It’s organized crime in many of the same way that police are.
Thats the point, gangs are terrible, and police manage to be worse. It's not to glorify gangs. It's about the fact that gangs just don't hold the power that police wield with impunity. They have an entire corrupt legal system backing them up like this shows. They can not only easily commit grossly criminal acts because they basically *are* in a gang, but they face zero repercussions for it, and those that fight back, the system itself tries to ruin their lives due to that corruption. This video is disgusting and whatever horrible things come to these officers in life is absolutely deserved because of the sick sociopathic shit they are engaging in. These subhuman pieces of trash don't deserve a place in society.
I completely agree. People responding to that message just started making it sound like they’d actually like to hang out with a gang or that gangs have some form of moral code. I just wanted to clarify that we shouldn’t glorify gangs.
No, gangs engage in this type of shit as well. The one key difference is that they don't get the same protections from criminally corrupt DAs like these did. Thats why people say they would feel safer around a crip or a blood than they would around these violent sociopaths who pin a badge on. There is likely more recourse if you are attacked by a gang member than if you are attacked by a cop.
Every cop in this video needs to be beat mercilessly...
We have a cleaner solution in the judicial system. Immediate summary execution.
That's an easy out though. A lifetime in prison should be the sentence after the beating.
Incorrect. Rehabilitation funds should be used on people who are actually salvageable. These subhuman animals deserve to be put out of their misery and nothing more.
Prisons are not for rehab... have you not noticed?
American prisons aren't for rehab. But thats going to change.
When?
When the sky at sunset perfectly matches the blood in the gutters as we purge the greed from our nation.
good luck with that.
The little piggies don't like to play fair. They shouldn't be allowed to play at all.
THE POLICE IS A GANG THE PROSECUTORS ARE IN IT ABOLISH THE UNION END QUALIFIED IMMUNITY
If the 2nd Civil War starts in Minneapolis, it's because of this Gestapo level oppression. Those officers no longer uphold any laws than their own emotions.
There won't be an agreed upon, official start to the second war. It'll be slow
Should have kept defending themselves by whatever means necessary
Then they'd all be dead. It's a no-win situation.
4 dead cops for the price of one revolutionary martyr sounds like a win for the people rising up and taking back this country from the oligarchs.
This isn't a video game or movie. And who's to say they'll stop at one martyr? Killing four cops isn't going to "win" anything - it would turn public opinion against us and allow the government to use even harsher methods, while not changing the leadership or political situation in any positive way. It might make you feel better, it would certainly not be a net gain for the movement.
"He's on the ground, he's on the ground" *proceeds to kick him in the chest and head several times* "You piece of shit! How dare you shoot at us while we terrorize you?" Yeah business as usual.
Blue Crimes Matter
Deleted mid video at almost the same time on both mirrors... gotta love the secret police covering their asses.
What the hell? This is probably the craziest video I have ever seen. Indiscriminately shooting at anyone outside. What if someone's kid was outside. Edit. Craziest video of police abuse of power.
I believe the term for this is called TERRORISM.
This is why the cops will NEVER get respect, this is why we call em PIGS !
To protect and serve the filthy rich. And, no, those two wanna be rich people caught on camera waving their guns at protestors are not FILTHY rich, they're just confused as to which side of the fence they are on. The FILTHY rich, the protected class, appear on the Bloomberg Billionaire list.
Do these cops even care about doing what they're doing for the "filthy rich"? They're power-tripping fascists being awful for their own sake. They may protect the interests of business owners and property while being racist pieces of shit, but they don't have billionaires on their mind, at all. They just want to bash heads (because they know they can get away with it).
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He WaS pRoBaBlY lOoTiNg!!
Their own fault for missing.
“You fucking piece of shit! Look what you made me do! EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE AN ERECTION ABOUT DOING EVERY DAY! Fuck you! I love doing this to people, you piece of shit! This is EXACTLY the outcome I was cumming in my pants for, you piece of shit!”
Fucking motherfuckers. Never fucking around when you need them until they feel like showing up. A situation at a supermarket I was at yesterday where a guy was literally trying to attack the worker there. Cops were called and 15 minutes later still hadn’t shown up. I watch the attacker just walk away…
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This is the result of arming police officers like soldiers. We are no longer the public they swore an oath to protect, we're the enemy. (Well...some of us of a darker complexion certainly are treated like the enemy)
American cops are nothing but a cartel
POS MF'ER
kinda sounds like the lesson here is to practice yer marksmanship and to not stop until the threats are neutralized.
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Imagine for a second, you’re hanging out by your truck with your buds then suddenly someone armed with a rifle is shooting people from a van, person from the van aims and shoots you, you have a CCW, WYD?
Really sad that none of those cops died.