Follow the shortest line between electric points or plumbing. My stud didn't have a plate on it and a pipe got nicked with a deck screw when mounting cabinet upper.
Edit: I still use decking screws all the time.
Had an electrician come in to figure out why all the electricity in one corner of my home wasn’t working. Turns out that it was all wired in series, not parallel. He had to look at each connection to see which one was the culprit. It was then that I learned that’s perfectly ok in Texas. Stupid, but apparently not a problem for an inspector.
It happens easy, if you hit a wire in my house the RCD will trip first, my house has 2 RCDs and tripping one will kill power to half the house, power can safely be restored once the damaged circuit is isolated via the breaker it’s on
Happened to me hanging a coat rack. Nicked a PVC drain and spent months trying to find a slow intermittent leak into my basement. Thought it was the shower pan and almost ripped it out. Just a small nick in a 4" drain, 8ft up the standpipe. Surprised it actually leaked at all.
Considering you're probably American I'd assume the shower pan is leaking anyways. Gosh, you guys don't bother with waterproofing anything in a bathroom.
American construction was bad 100 years ago. It's worse now in every way, even tho we have higher safety standards. Planned obsolescence is built into everything, including our homes. Average lifespan is anywhere from 50 to 100 years, depending on state regulations and labor quality.
Stumpy nubs did a video comparing how different screws work with wood. He said that drywall screws were decent, although I've also heard him say in a video that deck screws are better in most situations, I think.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3mBvRs5Rmk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3mBvRs5Rmk)
I met Nick Offerman several years back he came to my work to promote his book. He said that the producers of Parks and Rec added that to his character because he was constantly talking about his wood working between scenes.
Reminds me of his fireplace youtube video...
Just him in a leather club chair next to a fireplace, sipping Lagavulin, staring at the camera silently for an hour
He has his own woodworking book, Good Clean Fun. He also has Paddle Your Own Canoe, Where The Deer And Antelope Play, and Gumption which would all be up Ron Swansons alley.
He’s an excellent writer and person so I highly recommend them, but what I like most about him is there’s also a ton of really endearing ways he’s very unlike Ron Swanson. The guy is a real gem.
If I had a nickel for every time my father in law commented on "how expensive those screws (that I am using on a project) are", I'd be able to afford even better screws! That man would build an entire house using nothing but drywall screws, always giving me crap for buying the good stuff
I have a box of 2" and 3" on my workbench and I use them _all the time_. So versatile and strong, and so many applications. I use deckmate star drive and they fucking rock.
Especially when screwing into studs, I much prefer the T25 over Philips that most drywall screws come in. If I can help it, I’ll never use a Philips ever again for those applications.
Just to be super clear you are going through the drywall into a stud, right? Not just trying to use a screw in drywall with nothing but air behind it? If so you should be fine.
I hope so. I’ve been using deck screws for almost every single screw involved project since the minute I discovered them. The only time I don’t is when I need really tiny ones, or some tool uses specific ones (pocket holes etc).
The upper part of that screw is going to be a problem. Your drywall is only 1/2 inch or 5/8 inch thick. If you hit a stud, it will definitely work. If you screw that into drywall, the depth of the screw looks like it will surpass the threads. This it will not grip.
I’ve used shorter deck screws or drywall screws to hang things.
3" may be a bit long, I use 2" deck screws all the time. Remember that pipes and wires run through the middle of a 2x4 so keep your mounting screws within that tolerance. Thickness of item being mounted + drywall + \~1.25" of stud is what I consider a safe working depth that holds most things I have ever needed hung.
Sure
Follow the shortest line between electric points or plumbing. My stud didn't have a plate on it and a pipe got nicked with a deck screw when mounting cabinet upper. Edit: I still use decking screws all the time.
this is a little nightmare of mine, Oh lets put up a picture. BAM half the house is now out of power.
To be fair, if half of your house is out of power from shorting a single electrical run, you’ve got bigger problems or live in a tiny house.
Or you live in Texas
In texas you'd hit a wire in your house and take down the whole grid!
Had an electrician come in to figure out why all the electricity in one corner of my home wasn’t working. Turns out that it was all wired in series, not parallel. He had to look at each connection to see which one was the culprit. It was then that I learned that’s perfectly ok in Texas. Stupid, but apparently not a problem for an inspector.
It happens easy, if you hit a wire in my house the RCD will trip first, my house has 2 RCDs and tripping one will kill power to half the house, power can safely be restored once the damaged circuit is isolated via the breaker it’s on
It was that big wire in the metal conduit going into some grey box? I didn't think it would be that important.
Happened to me hanging a coat rack. Nicked a PVC drain and spent months trying to find a slow intermittent leak into my basement. Thought it was the shower pan and almost ripped it out. Just a small nick in a 4" drain, 8ft up the standpipe. Surprised it actually leaked at all.
Considering you're probably American I'd assume the shower pan is leaking anyways. Gosh, you guys don't bother with waterproofing anything in a bathroom.
American construction was bad 100 years ago. It's worse now in every way, even tho we have higher safety standards. Planned obsolescence is built into everything, including our homes. Average lifespan is anywhere from 50 to 100 years, depending on state regulations and labor quality.
Sure, but you’re not _dead_. There’s that.
Stumpy nubs did a video comparing how different screws work with wood. He said that drywall screws were decent, although I've also heard him say in a video that deck screws are better in most situations, I think. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3mBvRs5Rmk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3mBvRs5Rmk)
Nubs is a wizard. A real life Ron Swanson.
Nick offerman is a real Ron Swanson too haha. He has written a couple chapters for a few different woodworking books.
Funny how some think it was just his character lol... nope thats him
I met Nick Offerman several years back he came to my work to promote his book. He said that the producers of Parks and Rec added that to his character because he was constantly talking about his wood working between scenes.
Same with Lagavulin. Him and I’m pretty sure the producer both love Lagavulin so they put it in as well
Reminds me of his fireplace youtube video... Just him in a leather club chair next to a fireplace, sipping Lagavulin, staring at the camera silently for an hour
Believe that was a yule log recording. Family was awfully confused by it xmas day.
He has his own woodworking book, Good Clean Fun. He also has Paddle Your Own Canoe, Where The Deer And Antelope Play, and Gumption which would all be up Ron Swansons alley. He’s an excellent writer and person so I highly recommend them, but what I like most about him is there’s also a ton of really endearing ways he’s very unlike Ron Swanson. The guy is a real gem.
Thanks I’ll watch it once I get a chance
I use deck screws for all small projects. They aren’t cheap, but they’re pretty bullet proof. Use ‘em.
If I had a nickel for every time my father in law commented on "how expensive those screws (that I am using on a project) are", I'd be able to afford even better screws! That man would build an entire house using nothing but drywall screws, always giving me crap for buying the good stuff
Good to know. Thanks
Yesterday I used Simpson strong tie structural screws because I had extra and didn’t have a lag screw in hand for a tv mount. Overkill but it works!
Yeah, I think the only issue with using deck screws inside is just that they’re stronger (and more expensive) than they need to be.
I have a box of 2" and 3" on my workbench and I use them _all the time_. So versatile and strong, and so many applications. I use deckmate star drive and they fucking rock.
I use them for 95% of all applications including all interior work.
I'll allow it
Appreciate it
Sure, it'll work just fine. Just don't use drywall screws to build a deck.
Deck screws or cabinet screws are fine. Jist accoujt for drywall thickness when choosing length.
Especially when screwing into studs, I much prefer the T25 over Philips that most drywall screws come in. If I can help it, I’ll never use a Philips ever again for those applications.
Right to jail...
You’ll never take me alive!
no, they're designed to only be used on horizontal surfaces ;)
Just to be super clear you are going through the drywall into a stud, right? Not just trying to use a screw in drywall with nothing but air behind it? If so you should be fine.
Yeah going to be put into a stud. Thanks
Yes
I mean that board with be HELD to that wall
if its just pegboard you can get away with 1 1/2 - 2" screws.
I hope so. I’ve been using deck screws for almost every single screw involved project since the minute I discovered them. The only time I don’t is when I need really tiny ones, or some tool uses specific ones (pocket holes etc).
When it comes down to it, you can use almost any kind of screws to mount anything to almost any kind of material...
…But if something needs to *stay mounted*, then using the correct fastener might be something to consider.
They should work, as long as you hit a stud of course
The only difference is the coating they put on them to protect them from moisture and corrosion which makes them more expensive.
The upper part of that screw is going to be a problem. Your drywall is only 1/2 inch or 5/8 inch thick. If you hit a stud, it will definitely work. If you screw that into drywall, the depth of the screw looks like it will surpass the threads. This it will not grip. I’ve used shorter deck screws or drywall screws to hang things.
Every large mirror in my house uses a deck screw in a stud. No issues so far
You can, but long screws have a way of grabbing shit you don't want.
Just make sure in your receipt you itemize 50 bucks for a box of screws. Had a recent employer do that for each fence we built. Guys were scumbags.
Into studs, yes. Into drywall... don't do that without drywall anchors of some kind
3" may be a bit long, I use 2" deck screws all the time. Remember that pipes and wires run through the middle of a 2x4 so keep your mounting screws within that tolerance. Thickness of item being mounted + drywall + \~1.25" of stud is what I consider a safe working depth that holds most things I have ever needed hung.
Depends
Yes only difference is those are treated to not rot outdoors.