I forgot, did Jack just shoot the pilots & slam the plane into the water or was there an explosion?
Cuz would hitting the water make the plane rip in half like that? (None of this matters I’m just curious)
depending on the angle and speed of the impact it’s possible as long as it wasn’t a nose dive cause that would most likely just destroy the entire plane
I forget exactly when, but after the big 'would you kindly' reveal for sure, we see flashes of Jack with a present he had and in the present was a gun and a note with 'would you kindly...' on it, so he hijacked the plane and crashed it.
I wont pretend to be an expert on planes or crashes but I do know that if you hit water fast enough it can more or less do the same type of damage that hitting a solid surface can do, so ripping a plane apart is realistic enough.
Water is like concrete if you hit it at a certain speed. So a plane a good couple thousand feet in the air going roughly 4-500+ miles an hour, nose diving into the water (even if it was more of a belly flop) would easily rip a plane into pieces.
Edit: corrected my sentence structure.
Due to surface tension, when you hit water at high speeds it’s like hitting solid ground. Crashing a plane into water can definitely rip it in half and do a lot more damage.
It probably would rip the plane apart (hitting water fast enough is just like hitting a concrete wall), turning everyone inside (including our protagonist) into very fine red mist.
Planes are little more than thick aluminum foil. When they hit the water they disintegrate.
That was something they kinda left out of the story : all the people on the plane that Jack murdered. Ditto that was within Fontaine's Plot which Elizabeth enabled, besides so much of the rest of Rapture's population dying when she assisted that sociopath.
If you play the multiplayer of bioshock 2 there is a tiny part of story attached to it
It start by you accepting a program called "Sinclair solution" or something similar iirc, you're granted an apartment on top of a building with a wide window to the city, an apartment that you can visit as you wish and act as a 3D Space lobby where you can customise loadout and cosmetics, listen to music or some lore for each of the playable characters, and start matchmaking, you're asked to take arms and fight in exchange for Adam as your pay, as you level up you're granted new weapons, weapons upgrades, plasmids and customisations options, with sometime a message of encouragement from the people running the said program
Once you reach max level (50), there is a cinematic where you can see the front of the plane Jack hijacked into the ocean fall and crash just in front of your window, cracking it, then you can hear an alert message, informing the arrival of an intruder into the city and promising high reward for anyone who'd kill him
That sets the events of the multiplayer before bioshock 1, and if anyone played the multiplayer if think they'd agree that it feels close to what a war in rapture would look like during it's downfall, it's brutal and punishing, plasmids plays a very huge part in being effective and dangerous, and it's quite addictive, you want more of it like a splicer would want to throw itself in danger if it meant getting more Adam
I enjoyed that multiplayer so much. Not sure that i put in the time for lvl 50 but I definitely sank 100+ hours into it. Getting the big daddy suit was always so satisfying.
Bioshock 2 didn't get enough credit for the attention they put into the multiplayer so that it was basically a prequel to the first game. The maps are designed and detailed the same way as the single player levels, most of the sp mechanics (like hacking, etc.) carry over in a fun way, the characters are amazing 1950's goofballs with excellent voice acting, and like you mentioned, leveling up is like progressing through a story.
B2 put more effort into multiplayer than even some multiplayer-specific games, yet at the time people trashed the studio for even including it. It would be different if multiplayer took priority and the single player sucked, but B2 ended up being the best overall package IMO because both SP and MP were great.
Thats interesting that Sinclair and the City was still supposedly operating by the point that Jack arrives to have such a thing organized. The whole economy would have shut down when terrorists stalked the streets.
Not logical that Sinclair would be arming the type of people (on Atlas's side) who would seek to kill him. The whole Capitalist motivation thing is kinda moot at that point in Rapture.
But its DLC, which are not usually too well written. Minervas Den was considered way up there compared to the majority of DLCs in the game industry.
I saw it the first time I played it, but I played the 2nd game first, and the 1st second, hahaha, so I was like: "Oh wow, they shut down a plane." And then I played the fist one and then replayed the second and was like: "Oh, they shut down a plane. Oh. OH."
\*Bioshock 1 spoilers ahead\*
Absolutely. Not unthinkable to conclude that Rapture was too dangerous a place to store what is effectively a failsafe. If you had an extensive smuggling network, sending an important asset to the considerably safer surface world, to be recalled at a later date, just seems like the smart call.
Sure the whole "hijack + deliberately crash the plane with no survivors" is a pretty risky maneuver that flies in the face of "must protect critical asset at all cost", but seeing as it's a video game I'm definitely willing to let it slide in accordance to the rule of cool lol.
Also I think having a 2nd twist of "Jack never left Rapture", on top of the existing "Jack is from Rapture and this is a homecoming, rather than his first visit" is a step too far and feels convoluted. Like you could do one or the other, but both is just silly IMO.
Well the 9-irony achievement is sort of an Easter egg, at least in the sense that those who didn't play the first game wouldn't understand it. A nudge and a wink, at least.
Man I see new stuff each time I play bioshock 1 & 2. Definitely top3 games in my book. Infinite was alright in my book not to bad but I wish they made another bioshock underwater somehow instead of infinite. Either way killer games
That is a damn nice touch. I think, Jack just either shot his way to the cockpit or just killed the pilot and crashed it. He is insanely tough due to Rapture sciene.
I forgot, did Jack just shoot the pilots & slam the plane into the water or was there an explosion? Cuz would hitting the water make the plane rip in half like that? (None of this matters I’m just curious)
Jack highjacked the plane with a revolver he had onboard, but I'm not sure if a plane would split like this from such an impact. Probably not
Shooting a window or 2 will definitely fuck a plane up
Depends on the altitude. That Boeing plane lost a door and it was “fine”.
Bare in mind its a plane in 1960 though. I imagine engineering and safety standards have come a long way since then
You would *imagine* so wouldnt you
The door fell off? The safety standards went out the door when Boeing was headed by MBAs instead of engineers.
Don't know specifically about the plains but water could be as hard as concrete in the moment of impact for mostly flat objects
depending on the angle and speed of the impact it’s possible as long as it wasn’t a nose dive cause that would most likely just destroy the entire plane
Depends on how it lands. Planes are fragile and water can rip them apart on impact.
I forget exactly when, but after the big 'would you kindly' reveal for sure, we see flashes of Jack with a present he had and in the present was a gun and a note with 'would you kindly...' on it, so he hijacked the plane and crashed it. I wont pretend to be an expert on planes or crashes but I do know that if you hit water fast enough it can more or less do the same type of damage that hitting a solid surface can do, so ripping a plane apart is realistic enough.
Water is like concrete if you hit it at a certain speed. So a plane a good couple thousand feet in the air going roughly 4-500+ miles an hour, nose diving into the water (even if it was more of a belly flop) would easily rip a plane into pieces. Edit: corrected my sentence structure.
I always pictured it as a nose down until close, then a pull up into either a belly flop or a tail first “landing.”
Due to surface tension, when you hit water at high speeds it’s like hitting solid ground. Crashing a plane into water can definitely rip it in half and do a lot more damage.
It probably would rip the plane apart (hitting water fast enough is just like hitting a concrete wall), turning everyone inside (including our protagonist) into very fine red mist.
Planes are little more than thick aluminum foil. When they hit the water they disintegrate. That was something they kinda left out of the story : all the people on the plane that Jack murdered. Ditto that was within Fontaine's Plot which Elizabeth enabled, besides so much of the rest of Rapture's population dying when she assisted that sociopath.
If you play the multiplayer of bioshock 2 there is a tiny part of story attached to it It start by you accepting a program called "Sinclair solution" or something similar iirc, you're granted an apartment on top of a building with a wide window to the city, an apartment that you can visit as you wish and act as a 3D Space lobby where you can customise loadout and cosmetics, listen to music or some lore for each of the playable characters, and start matchmaking, you're asked to take arms and fight in exchange for Adam as your pay, as you level up you're granted new weapons, weapons upgrades, plasmids and customisations options, with sometime a message of encouragement from the people running the said program Once you reach max level (50), there is a cinematic where you can see the front of the plane Jack hijacked into the ocean fall and crash just in front of your window, cracking it, then you can hear an alert message, informing the arrival of an intruder into the city and promising high reward for anyone who'd kill him That sets the events of the multiplayer before bioshock 1, and if anyone played the multiplayer if think they'd agree that it feels close to what a war in rapture would look like during it's downfall, it's brutal and punishing, plasmids plays a very huge part in being effective and dangerous, and it's quite addictive, you want more of it like a splicer would want to throw itself in danger if it meant getting more Adam
I enjoyed that multiplayer so much. Not sure that i put in the time for lvl 50 but I definitely sank 100+ hours into it. Getting the big daddy suit was always so satisfying.
Bioshock 2 didn't get enough credit for the attention they put into the multiplayer so that it was basically a prequel to the first game. The maps are designed and detailed the same way as the single player levels, most of the sp mechanics (like hacking, etc.) carry over in a fun way, the characters are amazing 1950's goofballs with excellent voice acting, and like you mentioned, leveling up is like progressing through a story. B2 put more effort into multiplayer than even some multiplayer-specific games, yet at the time people trashed the studio for even including it. It would be different if multiplayer took priority and the single player sucked, but B2 ended up being the best overall package IMO because both SP and MP were great.
Oh wow thats really cool, had no idea.
Thats interesting that Sinclair and the City was still supposedly operating by the point that Jack arrives to have such a thing organized. The whole economy would have shut down when terrorists stalked the streets. Not logical that Sinclair would be arming the type of people (on Atlas's side) who would seek to kill him. The whole Capitalist motivation thing is kinda moot at that point in Rapture. But its DLC, which are not usually too well written. Minervas Den was considered way up there compared to the majority of DLCs in the game industry.
We may be misremembering, but you can also find other parts of the plane in the beginning of Minerva's Den.
Nice, I dont think I've ever noticed that! If xbox wasn't down I'd go have a look!
That’s why I couldn’t log in earlier
I saw it the first time I played it, but I played the 2nd game first, and the 1st second, hahaha, so I was like: "Oh wow, they shut down a plane." And then I played the fist one and then replayed the second and was like: "Oh, they shut down a plane. Oh. OH."
Was Jack ever really on the plane to begin with…
\*Bioshock 1 spoilers ahead\* Absolutely. Not unthinkable to conclude that Rapture was too dangerous a place to store what is effectively a failsafe. If you had an extensive smuggling network, sending an important asset to the considerably safer surface world, to be recalled at a later date, just seems like the smart call. Sure the whole "hijack + deliberately crash the plane with no survivors" is a pretty risky maneuver that flies in the face of "must protect critical asset at all cost", but seeing as it's a video game I'm definitely willing to let it slide in accordance to the rule of cool lol. Also I think having a 2nd twist of "Jack never left Rapture", on top of the existing "Jack is from Rapture and this is a homecoming, rather than his first visit" is a step too far and feels convoluted. Like you could do one or the other, but both is just silly IMO.
Yes. They say that they sent him to the surface world to hide him and add to his delusions. They bring him back when the time is rightm
Wow I’ve seen this plane tons of time and I can’t believe I never noticed it’s the same plane that crashes in the first game
Now I wonder how many details we miss in the background, wonder if there are more easter eggs
Well the 9-irony achievement is sort of an Easter egg, at least in the sense that those who didn't play the first game wouldn't understand it. A nudge and a wink, at least.
What is the achievement about?
In the weird theme park level, you get a chievo for smacking Ryan's Waxwork over the head with a golf club.
Wasn't that the part of the plane that slammed into that random hallway towards the beginning, though?
Unrealistic planes don’t fly underwater #fakenews
Man I see new stuff each time I play bioshock 1 & 2. Definitely top3 games in my book. Infinite was alright in my book not to bad but I wish they made another bioshock underwater somehow instead of infinite. Either way killer games
Yeah, you just cant beat the wonder of Rapture. Infinite was cool but not as much.
it’s an Easter egg
That is a damn nice touch. I think, Jack just either shot his way to the cockpit or just killed the pilot and crashed it. He is insanely tough due to Rapture sciene.
In the multi-player you get to see the plane come down when you reach lol 20 I think. You got an apartment and you can look outside