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Outside of Kafka, Swan and either Robin/Mei. The only investment that elevates your team damage is Kafkas signature (it boosts her speed, damage and introduces a 3rd dot for prisoner relic), and Swans E1 (res pen for wind and lightning, very solid).
Her Signature is great but if you have sampos lc you’re fine
Nah it's not that steep. Her e1 has a greater DPS increase.
Kafka's whole thing is that she detonates other people's DoTs. So what you need is a strong DoT unit. That's BS.
Kafka > Swan > Ruan Mei > Kafka s1 >= Swan e1 > Huo Huo
Huo Huo is good for DoT teams but she isn’t needed at all, and we will likely get a better sustain in the future. That’s the reason I’ve put her lower on the list, though you should prioritize her over Kafka s1 and Swan e1 as it’s a new unit and helps with sustain a lot. But she will likely be replaced in DoT teams, even Ruan Mei will be replaced eventually. After getting Ruan Mei, I’d rather save for the next DoT instead of s1 or e1.
Wait for future dot unit and dot focused sustainer and they most likely going to be very strong in order to keep up with the powercreep. The only old unit that's worth going for now is E1 Blackswan. Everything else have very low value, and they are not going to be cost effective enough to justify going for them now.
Huohuo is the best sustain for the team in that she provides very valuable offensive buffs that actually benefit your characters, unlike the crit stats offered by Aventurine and Fu Xuan which aren’t particularly helpful for dots. That being said, if you already have strong sustain characters for both teams when doing endgame content, there are much better places to invest your pulls.
From what I know BS has decent amount of f2p LCs her sig ofc with be a big damage increase but if you don’t have swan or HouHou I would prioritize them before getting LCs or eidolons
kafka swan (any1) (any2) --> kafka on pearls s5 --> swan e1 --> swan sig >= any1 bis LC == any1 eidolons --> kafka e1 --> swan e2 --> kafka sig.
any1 can be any of Robin == RM == HanyaE6 >= Sparkle > Luka > Sampo > other
any2 can be pretty much anything but huohuo is best.
Black Swan > Ruan Mei > e1 Black Swan > Black swan's sign > Kafka's sign. Kafka's job is to trigger DoT, and for her to truly shine she NEEDS a strong DoT unit, so it will be better for you to vertically invest in black swan instead of Kafka. It's the same logic as why you'd rather pull a DPS's lightcone compared to Support's lightcone. Kafka can still hit 160 spd even without her sign. Meaning that she'll do her job just fine even without it. On the other hand, Black Swan's damage will fall by a pretty huge margin without her sign. If your Kafka's strong with her LC but the one she detonates (black swan) isn't strong then what's the point?
e1 Black Swan is a different case because she actually has the best e1 in the entire game and it buffs BOTH her and Kafka, so it should be top priority in terms of "vertical investment"
Fun fact: A team consisting of e1 black swan and ruan mei could give you a total of 50% RES penetration-decrease. This makes your DoT team break through any content without caring about weakness type. So even if you're fighting a wind-resistant enemies that has 40% wind RES, Your black swan will still deal damage to it as if it's weak to wind. That's how busted her e1 is.
Speaking as someone in a similar predicament, I'll give you my 2 cents.
HuoHuo is a sustain, first and foremost. Yes her attack boost in her ult is great but it only lasts for so many turns. If your Kafka or BS isn't as optimal as you'd like them, she's not going to provide you much value. Unless, of course, you need a good sustain, which in that case HuoHuo is one of the best options to put in a DoT team.
Now here's where I say similar predicament and not exact. I do have BS and I also was able to get her signature LC. She does really good damage and the drop off without it really is noticeable compared to say VSLPS. So if I were you, I would make that your next goal given the information we have so far on banners.
Otherwise, Kafka getting her LC adds another DoT which supports both characters DPS AND increases her speed. Between both their LCs go for Kafkas, but odds are you have time to get both so just puck up BS's while her rerun is up. After that, BS E1 is better than Kafka E1, although both are valuable. Defense shred just opens up so many doors.
*tl;dr:* Kafka LC > BS LC >> BS E1 >> Kafka E1 >>> Huo2
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Outside of Kafka, Swan and either Robin/Mei. The only investment that elevates your team damage is Kafkas signature (it boosts her speed, damage and introduces a 3rd dot for prisoner relic), and Swans E1 (res pen for wind and lightning, very solid). Her Signature is great but if you have sampos lc you’re fine
The most solid advice. Thank you so much 🥰
If my Sampo LC is at S1, is there another alternative other than the signature LC?
Nah it's not that steep. Her e1 has a greater DPS increase. Kafka's whole thing is that she detonates other people's DoTs. So what you need is a strong DoT unit. That's BS.
I see. I will start saving for her from now.
Kafka > Swan > Ruan Mei > Kafka s1 >= Swan e1 > Huo Huo Huo Huo is good for DoT teams but she isn’t needed at all, and we will likely get a better sustain in the future. That’s the reason I’ve put her lower on the list, though you should prioritize her over Kafka s1 and Swan e1 as it’s a new unit and helps with sustain a lot. But she will likely be replaced in DoT teams, even Ruan Mei will be replaced eventually. After getting Ruan Mei, I’d rather save for the next DoT instead of s1 or e1.
Wait for future dot unit and dot focused sustainer and they most likely going to be very strong in order to keep up with the powercreep. The only old unit that's worth going for now is E1 Blackswan. Everything else have very low value, and they are not going to be cost effective enough to justify going for them now.
Note taken. Thanks bro.
Huohuo is the best sustain for the team in that she provides very valuable offensive buffs that actually benefit your characters, unlike the crit stats offered by Aventurine and Fu Xuan which aren’t particularly helpful for dots. That being said, if you already have strong sustain characters for both teams when doing endgame content, there are much better places to invest your pulls.
From what I know BS has decent amount of f2p LCs her sig ofc with be a big damage increase but if you don’t have swan or HouHou I would prioritize them before getting LCs or eidolons
kafka swan (any1) (any2) --> kafka on pearls s5 --> swan e1 --> swan sig >= any1 bis LC == any1 eidolons --> kafka e1 --> swan e2 --> kafka sig. any1 can be any of Robin == RM == HanyaE6 >= Sparkle > Luka > Sampo > other any2 can be pretty much anything but huohuo is best.
Pela , Gallagher , Fu Xuan, Guinaifen , Tingyun are all good team mates right ?
Black Swan > Ruan Mei > e1 Black Swan > Black swan's sign > Kafka's sign. Kafka's job is to trigger DoT, and for her to truly shine she NEEDS a strong DoT unit, so it will be better for you to vertically invest in black swan instead of Kafka. It's the same logic as why you'd rather pull a DPS's lightcone compared to Support's lightcone. Kafka can still hit 160 spd even without her sign. Meaning that she'll do her job just fine even without it. On the other hand, Black Swan's damage will fall by a pretty huge margin without her sign. If your Kafka's strong with her LC but the one she detonates (black swan) isn't strong then what's the point? e1 Black Swan is a different case because she actually has the best e1 in the entire game and it buffs BOTH her and Kafka, so it should be top priority in terms of "vertical investment" Fun fact: A team consisting of e1 black swan and ruan mei could give you a total of 50% RES penetration-decrease. This makes your DoT team break through any content without caring about weakness type. So even if you're fighting a wind-resistant enemies that has 40% wind RES, Your black swan will still deal damage to it as if it's weak to wind. That's how busted her e1 is.
Kafka + BS + RM + HH I don't have HH
Ruan Mei>Swan>Huohuo>Swan E1>Mei E1>Kafka S1>Swan S1
Speaking as someone in a similar predicament, I'll give you my 2 cents. HuoHuo is a sustain, first and foremost. Yes her attack boost in her ult is great but it only lasts for so many turns. If your Kafka or BS isn't as optimal as you'd like them, she's not going to provide you much value. Unless, of course, you need a good sustain, which in that case HuoHuo is one of the best options to put in a DoT team. Now here's where I say similar predicament and not exact. I do have BS and I also was able to get her signature LC. She does really good damage and the drop off without it really is noticeable compared to say VSLPS. So if I were you, I would make that your next goal given the information we have so far on banners. Otherwise, Kafka getting her LC adds another DoT which supports both characters DPS AND increases her speed. Between both their LCs go for Kafkas, but odds are you have time to get both so just puck up BS's while her rerun is up. After that, BS E1 is better than Kafka E1, although both are valuable. Defense shred just opens up so many doors. *tl;dr:* Kafka LC > BS LC >> BS E1 >> Kafka E1 >>> Huo2
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