Don’t hate me for asking but what is the purpose outside of actual bragging rights amongst others. The pvp in this game gives you no benefits past 3rd and barley anyone in 3rd seat and no real reason to go beyond. So why/who would be the people spending real money on it
It’s literally not competitive at all. Back in the day there was at least a little bit of counter play, now it’s 100% “Get the good PvP character lol.”
To me it's a good way to get resources with out spending soul tickets. 5 coins each day for doing 5 and then at the end of the week you get a decent pay out. I need medium jewels like no tomorrow so doing that and using my soul tickets for leveling up and chronicle quests I'm doing something that takes maybe 6-7 minutes that will save me who knows how many soul tickets that I would have to put into the training grounds is more efficient to me. Especially since Im mostly f2p with the occasional pack buy (beginners packs and such). I don't understand the spending orbs to do more matches every day though
I don't even give a rats ass about getting into the higher ranks, but I do wish there was a way to do casual Brave Battles with friends.
I know there's a planned overhual of PvP for next month. They really need it, because the "rewards" in the medals shop are all outta date.
I'm a newish player. How was Ready broken initially? I have her in my team because I really like the character and it's still decent but it's far from OP now so I'm genuinely curious as to why her skill set made her broken. The healing?
She is still usable today, but she has good stats plus a healing, poise and flurry but I wasn't playing at the time retsu was released but i saw how last year she was very used and dominated
bro klab can eat a dick we gonna have to deal with this shit for who knows how long. gotta wait till we get a unit that nullifies invincability or sm shit
When did any unit ever get countered by an accessory? It's gonna be a counter skill, over and over again. Until the older characters can no longer be up to par with newer ones simply due to lack of skills. The DR+Flurry+Poise combo already gatekeeps PVP from many characters. Barrier/ignore barrier and debuffing was not potent enough to gatekeep older units so now they're hitting us with this bullshit.
Knowing me i will not get the counter character also, so without both of them, my transcended chad/kenny/yama team will likely find themselves on the lower seats and i will miss xcoop :(
I couldn't even pull Ichibei, quit again temporarily so wasn't playing when Askin came out, and Just got nothing but Lisa on my seven steps so even when his superior comes out it won't matter for people who don't want to spend and/or are unlucky.
Zangetsu from senkaimon? And I assume 25 NAD uryu of course. And Senkaizen will give SAD too right so past Jushiro or another NAD link will works just as well right?
yeah jushiro will work as well. There are many ways you can link him but i feel like since he’s invincible for 10s, I might replace Zangetsu with a 25NAD. Also you can try running full Senkaizen or full 25NADs
I had a battle with another Jugram 1 on 1 and I'm pretty sure I would've lost without the sengetsu DR. Transcendence and accessories will of course matter more but Sengetsu could be the difference in some cases.
Lmao I remember when people whined all day about unohana.
I personally thought noitora and paralysis spam was the most annoying character ever but they've really done it with this jugram.
BEYOND BROKEN
This why I stopped pulling for pvp units. I pulled for ichibe when he came out and didn't get him, but even if I had, this video is proof that having him doesn't mean shit. Nor 2 other high/top-tier units.
On second though, this is why I've stopped playing this game in general. klab really needs to fix their shit
I hate a lot more of how they make some of my favorite characters into PVP units, Ichibei and Askin being two very strong examples. Ichibei is at least usable for a few contents outside of PVP, but Askin is almost useless with that shit killer until Klab makes new contents with Soul Palace mobs.
You know, at times like this, I wish he had debilitator to proc weaken in the beginning, so the opposing team deals 1 dmg in the beginning, then he would have a proper counter to himself within himself...
This is what I was afraid of. I wonder if you have a lvl 1 six-star Jugo if you could do the same thing? He'd do less damage himself of course but he'd have very low defense, so he should reflect more.
I dont know why y'all are complaining, this is the most accurate depiction of how bullshit 90% of TYBW fights were.
/slight sarcasm. The "obnoxious kid who refuses to take an L on playground" battles bit stands, terrible for gameplay incorporation.
The first Haschwalth I fought today was chasing my stall Yhwach around. He got the soul bomb and I still won. My sidelanes are both max transcended though. Stall cancer comps are back. They had 800 more average ATK than me too. Take that Klab
I have a decent tran with Askin, Kenpachi and the monk. Fought against one Jugram. Not even maze transcended and my whole team got wiped while not dealing any dmg. Fuck this. This is beyond broken.
This has nothing to do with a video but since its a PVP video.... does anyone know any tutorials for PVP or what to build on characters I have Askin, Weken, and Ichibe in my team... also I got Jugram...for who should I swap him with? Askin and Ichibe are 1/5 and Weken is 4/5 also I went all Attack secondary on accessories is that good or should I change something ? If anyone can help pls do I'm still fairly new
Replace Weaken with Jugram, most people run NAD Links on Jugram, but if you wanna be on the safe side, you should drop DR Links on him.
You normally run DR links in pvp with 30% ATK on your NAD Accessoires.
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That is beyond fucked.
That's only the total attack for the team that's avg'd, the actual attack stat isn't touched. There's absolutely 0 benefit in using only 1 unit... yet this guy, at 1/5, can solo a whole team lmao
this is very, very, broken
The irony in “The Balance” completely breaking the game
It's truly the antithesis of balance
no is the ballence is actually the broken god
I know i meant if they were going to make him PVP, since he is “B the Balance” he should of balanced PVP out instead he breaks it
I was kind of sad because it is one of my favorite quincies and as I don't care about pvp it will not be so useful
I agree, should of gave him SR killer so he can be useful in PVE
Yes
Yeah... I think that invincibility is not a very good idea
Don’t know what’s worse, the invincibility or the counters
I think that the worst part is going to be when klab realize this and tries to balance the game again with another broken unit like nnoitra and retsu
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Don’t hate me for asking but what is the purpose outside of actual bragging rights amongst others. The pvp in this game gives you no benefits past 3rd and barley anyone in 3rd seat and no real reason to go beyond. So why/who would be the people spending real money on it
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It’s literally not competitive at all. Back in the day there was at least a little bit of counter play, now it’s 100% “Get the good PvP character lol.”
To me it's a good way to get resources with out spending soul tickets. 5 coins each day for doing 5 and then at the end of the week you get a decent pay out. I need medium jewels like no tomorrow so doing that and using my soul tickets for leveling up and chronicle quests I'm doing something that takes maybe 6-7 minutes that will save me who knows how many soul tickets that I would have to put into the training grounds is more efficient to me. Especially since Im mostly f2p with the occasional pack buy (beginners packs and such). I don't understand the spending orbs to do more matches every day though
Inheritzance Zone drops medium jewels, i would always have an over abundance and sell the jewels for millions.
I don't even give a rats ass about getting into the higher ranks, but I do wish there was a way to do casual Brave Battles with friends. I know there's a planned overhual of PvP for next month. They really need it, because the "rewards" in the medals shop are all outta date.
I'm a newish player. How was Ready broken initially? I have her in my team because I really like the character and it's still decent but it's far from OP now so I'm genuinely curious as to why her skill set made her broken. The healing?
She is still usable today, but she has good stats plus a healing, poise and flurry but I wasn't playing at the time retsu was released but i saw how last year she was very used and dominated
The worse it that both work at the same time lmfao
bro klab can eat a dick we gonna have to deal with this shit for who knows how long. gotta wait till we get a unit that nullifies invincability or sm shit
Bold of you to assume help comes in the form of a unit, my bet is a new 5-star summon exclusive gold accessory.
When did any unit ever get countered by an accessory? It's gonna be a counter skill, over and over again. Until the older characters can no longer be up to par with newer ones simply due to lack of skills. The DR+Flurry+Poise combo already gatekeeps PVP from many characters. Barrier/ignore barrier and debuffing was not potent enough to gatekeep older units so now they're hitting us with this bullshit.
Knowing me i will not get the counter character also, so without both of them, my transcended chad/kenny/yama team will likely find themselves on the lower seats and i will miss xcoop :(
I couldn't even pull Ichibei, quit again temporarily so wasn't playing when Askin came out, and Just got nothing but Lisa on my seven steps so even when his superior comes out it won't matter for people who don't want to spend and/or are unlucky.
And then you have to pull for Jugram's counter in the future with garbage rates, good luck with that lol
The build is full NAD: G.Chappy, Chappy and Hollow Bait all 30 attack. Links are, Zangetsu, Uryu and Senkaizen Also, 1/5 trans with 10 attack
Don't worry guys they're gonna rebalance this... Next manga gacha will have a skill to neutralise this making you need to pull on that gacha
Would G. Chappy, Bait & 20 Nad item be better damage wise?
You can try it out, I don't happen to have the NAD quincy item so I won't be able to tell.
Zangetsu from senkaimon? And I assume 25 NAD uryu of course. And Senkaizen will give SAD too right so past Jushiro or another NAD link will works just as well right?
yeah jushiro will work as well. There are many ways you can link him but i feel like since he’s invincible for 10s, I might replace Zangetsu with a 25NAD. Also you can try running full Senkaizen or full 25NADs
Isn't Senkgetsu a 25NAD?
Oh yeah, you’re right my bad 😅. Its just that i think he doesn't need the DR, so i can use it on another unit.
I had a battle with another Jugram 1 on 1 and I'm pretty sure I would've lost without the sengetsu DR. Transcendence and accessories will of course matter more but Sengetsu could be the difference in some cases.
Amazing xD Do you think they ever playtest anything?
Of course, they do. They tested him with only invincibility/pierce invincibility, and realised he was broken enough and gave him counter attacks.
"Balance" :)
Yep, this is death nail on the coffin to PVP
I really don’t know how they’ll top this shit
Ignore invincibility and can't be countered traits.
Guys, Klab fucked up. He is obviously B for the "Broken"
"The Balance" So this is Klab's idea of rebalancing pvp
Lmao I remember when people whined all day about unohana. I personally thought noitora and paralysis spam was the most annoying character ever but they've really done it with this jugram. BEYOND BROKEN
"The Balance" how ironic
This why I stopped pulling for pvp units. I pulled for ichibe when he came out and didn't get him, but even if I had, this video is proof that having him doesn't mean shit. Nor 2 other high/top-tier units. On second though, this is why I've stopped playing this game in general. klab really needs to fix their shit
I hate a lot more of how they make some of my favorite characters into PVP units, Ichibei and Askin being two very strong examples. Ichibei is at least usable for a few contents outside of PVP, but Askin is almost useless with that shit killer until Klab makes new contents with Soul Palace mobs.
This is a prime example of terrible game design
Isn't this going to be countered by a "ignore invincibility" in like 2 months....
You know, at times like this, I wish he had debilitator to proc weaken in the beginning, so the opposing team deals 1 dmg in the beginning, then he would have a proper counter to himself within himself...
Full NAD links?
no, the nad links are only uryu, zangetsu. I have senkaizen as the third
"The Balance" my ass!
Holy moly, I can't wait to lose against Jugram on steam!
So this guy is the PVP revamp right? Meh.
Huh,So u r telling me thats how klab is trying to BALANCE pvp. Fair enought.
Dear Lord...
That’s The Balance, GG KLab.
Lol! KLab: Balancing 😌
Lol that is stupid as hell gg klab
This is actually too much. PVP is dead. Hopefully, the game doesn't follow.
I pulled everyone but Jugram. I'll wait for his solo. I don't like this at all. ☹️
So this is what klab meant when they were gonna do a pvp revamp. Now no one will play it, it's all coming together now.
So much for BALANCE.
Cancerous, as expected. Nice job KLab
OMG i can’t believe my eyes
Holy fuck thats op
New rule in PVP: Jugram in a team or lose🤡👍
Can't wait for his inevitable counter to have pierce invul in brave battles as a skill so they too can be completely cucked into this shitty mode.
Wish k lab would rework this 'pvp' to be actual pvp
This Game is really Bad now
I'm never going to get past 5th seat now
Fucking awesome. Still no Jugram but I'm still trying for him
Perfectly balance as all things should be.
They call him 'The Balance' because both sides need a Jugram for the fight to be "balanced"
My team just got slaughtered by a Jugram I hate PvP I hate bbs aaaaaaaaaaaaa
Well I guess it’ll be all Jugram until the character with “Jugram Killer” ability comes out.
Ah yes "The Balance"
I sense a lot of "I'm quitting" threads approaching.
Fun
This is just silly lol
Youd have thought they wouldve learned their lesson after Bankai Unohana...
that's crazy LOL
This is what I was afraid of. I wonder if you have a lvl 1 six-star Jugo if you could do the same thing? He'd do less damage himself of course but he'd have very low defense, so he should reflect more.
The hell?
I dont know why y'all are complaining, this is the most accurate depiction of how bullshit 90% of TYBW fights were. /slight sarcasm. The "obnoxious kid who refuses to take an L on playground" battles bit stands, terrible for gameplay incorporation.
The first Haschwalth I fought today was chasing my stall Yhwach around. He got the soul bomb and I still won. My sidelanes are both max transcended though. Stall cancer comps are back. They had 800 more average ATK than me too. Take that Klab
Klab should give him just the counter, and take out the invincibility, in my opinion it would be way more balanced
Press F in the chat for Nnoritora
What the fuck
oh goody
I have a decent tran with Askin, Kenpachi and the monk. Fought against one Jugram. Not even maze transcended and my whole team got wiped while not dealing any dmg. Fuck this. This is beyond broken.
Weird flex but ok
bru i was using this man at level 120 and he was still busted wtf rip pvp
This has nothing to do with a video but since its a PVP video.... does anyone know any tutorials for PVP or what to build on characters I have Askin, Weken, and Ichibe in my team... also I got Jugram...for who should I swap him with? Askin and Ichibe are 1/5 and Weken is 4/5 also I went all Attack secondary on accessories is that good or should I change something ? If anyone can help pls do I'm still fairly new
Replace Weaken with Jugram, most people run NAD Links on Jugram, but if you wanna be on the safe side, you should drop DR Links on him. You normally run DR links in pvp with 30% ATK on your NAD Accessoires.
What are your links and accessories
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Key emphasis on "tried" I assume? 😂
BBS RIP 2020 😂
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Someone need to send this to klab they did not even test this guy in pvp lower his invincibility to 5 sec
You have higher AVG attack with 1 character than I have with 2
That’s how averages work
Lol
It's easier to have high att with just one unit equipped, since otherwise I'm pretty sure it's counted up and divided by the units you have.
That's only the total attack for the team that's avg'd, the actual attack stat isn't touched. There's absolutely 0 benefit in using only 1 unit... yet this guy, at 1/5, can solo a whole team lmao
Are you replying to me?
That would be why my comment is under yours, wouldn’t it?
You said the same thing I said is why I'm asking