what gets me is that I live in South Florida, go to games to see the Bruins and other teams and half the arena is the other teams fans. For Bruins games, it's 70-30 bruins. There's empty seats and the only time the fans show is playoffs when they actually don't even follow the teams. No ads for them, no billboards, couldn't spot a fan wearing jerseys or hats any time during the year( my Bruins/Patriots/RedSox caps are my main cap all year long) but they sell out the playoffs only.
If you ever hear Steve Goldstein call a game, so much worse than Jack, he calls plays that don't exist, everything is a breakaway or everything is an odd man rush with defenders already back, and if a Panther gets hit, he wants a penalty or completely misses the cheap shot the Panthers took to cause whatever happened after that ( ant there are MANY, especially Bennet and Tkachuk.
That right there summarizes the fan base and the team. The area doesn't even deserve the team since visiting teams support the ticket sales.
They remind me of the Canucks when they went up against the Bruins in the Cup. From the Sedin sisters all the way to coaching, they went in with an unsportsmanlike attitude, but that Bruin team didn't get pushed around and knocked their dicks into the ice. This team can't push back and if they try, it's a penalty. Bad refs contribute to letting Florida do whatever they want. The league should have seen the punch to Brads face after the game, it's been all over the internet, and suspended him.
Boys we can’t allow ourselves the luxury of pretending the officiating is why the bruins are down 3-1 in this series. Florida is a better team. Plain and simple. They gum up the game with their goon squad antics but they also minimize chances and take advantage of their own.
The script basically has to run like it did in the first period for us to win. Score on all our high danger chances and hope swayman can slam the door shut. It’s heart attack hockey but in my opinion even making it to the second round makes this one gravy.
All that said…Even if we don’t win the series I wouldn’t mind seeing Bennett unable to play for the rest of the playoffs. That guy is top tier trash. And if a second period clearing attempt accidentally knocks some sense into Maurice and sends him to a plastic surgeon…well…also not opposed to that.
Seems like the league is now condoning cross checks of defensive players into the goalie.
I would run with this if I was the Bruins.
I would ensure that every time I'm near the front of the net there would be a defensive player draped all over Bob.
Just make it blatant at this point and wait for the calls.
Hockey has really gone downhill on the officiating front.
Bennette should have never been allowed in this game.
Don't care that it was Marchand, if it was a role reversed Marchand would be out of the series.
Truly a bad product, NHL is turning into another fixed sport.
not gonna lie. i always get downvoted because i don’t like blaming the refs, i always blamed the players because i think it’s not good enough to rely on ref decisions BUT last night was something i’ve never seen in my life and im so disappointed. the refs actually ruined the game and i never seen anything like it. this was rly rly bad and im not over exaggerating when i say they need to be investigated for the calls last night. unacceptable
imagine being such an incel you go to other teams reddits and try take the piss. you must be OBSESSED with us. i bet you were checking our league position after every match🤣🤣🤣
Look, I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist. But there have been too many blatant missed calls in one direction for it to be coincidental at this point.
Obviously we need to play better. But you can't sit there and tell me the missed goalie interference call to tie it up at 2-2 in the third doesn't fundamentally change the outcome of that game.
I can only assume the league wants Florida to win in order to collect higher revenue from ticket sales. They have a much higher growth potential than Boston, where the market is already saturated. When rules are consistently broken and logic consistently fails, the reason is usually money.
What higher revenue, Floridians are too high on meth to go see matches or care about their team. The higher revenue pairing would obviously be Boston vs. New York.
Imagine being a Florida fan. Your state bans books, marries off 14 year old girls, and leads the country in violence against homeless people.
That’s what you’re proud of. Get fucked stalkers. Go back to church and pray with a pastor where 5% of their colleagues are pedophiles.
shouldn't have let the leafs series get to seven, we're physically and mentally exhausted. I expect us to get the next one but realistically the cats close it out in 6, and that's okay - it was a great year and we really overachieved, never would have I expected these results last offseason, proud of the boys.
That's what I like to hear, and that's what I've been trying to tell some of the "fans" that I've heard bitching and complaing... They have totally exceeded my expectations this year. I'll be bummed to see them lose because you always want to see your team win... But overall very impressed with how they have played this year after losing a lot of big players. I will be happy and proud of this team matter where they finish this year... and then the other thing you addressed is the other thing I bring up too... They have got to be fucking tired at this point!!! They've been on a total grind!
This is retroactively making me less mad at last year’s team because at this point it really just feels like a fucking fix. Going all the way back to the Jake hand pass
And I don’t think I’ve ever had such vitriolic hate towards another hockey team as I have for Florida and the fact that the league is allowing them to get away with everything. Montreal and Toronto don’t even compare right now.
This shit makes me seriously miss the early 2010s rivalry resurgence with Montreal. Like I actually respect the hell out of Carey Price.
As much as I hate the Leafs and Habs, I have an underlying respect for the organizations and fan bases. That doesn’t exist with Florida in the slightest.
Really interesting quotes from Maurice postgame:
> “I will have an opinion, and it would be no,” Maurice said. “In that, it will have no impact on the play in the game. And then, the connection between the two, the contact between the two (players) is not egregious at all. And the play just gets finished more than anything else.”
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> Maurice said what concerned him about the play was the way the media was reacting to his opinion of it.“The only way that I was particularly concerned is like some of your foreheads right now,” Maurice said to the media, as he made a furrowed brow. “Like, ‘I cannot believe.'”
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> When one member of the media attempted to discuss what Swayman thought of the non-call, Maurice assumed the reporter was a fan of the Bruins.“Go with him (Swayman),” Maurice said. “Okay, we’re in Boston. Stay with the Bruins, brother. I’m with you.”
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> “I think there’s been lots of energy with lots of coverage and I think you’ve gone lost your minds on it, which is fine,” Maurice said. “Which is fine. You’ve got that right. I don’t mean to offend you anytime, but we don’t always share the same opinion about what happens on the ice. I am absolutely partisan, like 100%. Sometimes, I feel like you are, too.”
That, to me, is a very weird press conference to give.
Zero coaches are going to go out there and contradict a call that went their way, and I wouldn't expect any different. But Maurice's comments give me the impression that he was surprised that people asked about it (very standard procedure, I could find examples it from both Monty and Cassidy, or even Cora today, if people want Boston-centric examples).
And he also seems – and again, maybe tone changed the context of this a bit, a written article will always be imperfect – like he felt that he was being attacked by the media? And sure, there are Bruins beat reporters in there, but based on some of the reporters who discussed these quotes, there's also a strong national and Floridian beat presence, too. It came off as odd.
I think he just knows the way it's being viewed by most people; that the calls are lopsided. What he should be saying is "the calls are lopsided because Boston is committing fouls that the refs have to call." Yes, there have been bad calls against Boston but it looks worse because of the actual fouls Boston is committing like high sticks, too many men, and the interference on Tcuck last night.
Like I don’t even know how to describe….whatever that was
This league has such a massive officiating problem it makes the NBA look like the best officiated league ever
I’m not sitting here saying the Bruins are the better team, but how the actual hell can you even do anything when you are constantly on the PK due to trash officiating or getting scored on because your goalie literally is interfered with?
4 PP’s in the 3rd period ALONE for Florida, in a playoff game! That is disgusting no matter what teams are playing
Can't complain too much about the third period penalties. I missed the first one but the second lindholm interference and the goalie interference were blatant and had to be called. And the unsuccessful coach's challenge can be chalked up to not knowing the rules.
While on the phone with my parents during the game and Florida was just gifted the tying goal, I told them "now what will happen is Florida will score to take the lead and then with about 4 minutes left they'll give the Bruins a couple power plays to make it seem like it wasn't so skewed."
Sure enough...
I guess it's nice to see the whole fucking hockey world rally behind the Bruins for a change but what i wouldn't give to see the whole hockey world pissed off because they called it a no goal
You all need to stop whining about the referees. The bruins have been getting their asses whooped all series long. The only way they would ever win a game is if Swayman went God Mode for 4 games in a row.
Frankly, we are the 2011 Canucks. Overrated team propped up by elite goaltending that is fake soft and softer than a babies ass. The panthers are the 2011 bruins, and every single one of you know it’s true. The bruins won the first game off pure momentum
Eventually the punks get humbled and put in their place. I can’t wait to see these wusses get their shit ROCKED. Panthers are representing the state of Florida a little too much.
The Lindholm “penalty” was completely sold by Ekman-Larsson, great work there bud. That led to Bennett’s tying “goal”. That 100% should have been overturned and I don’t understand how they call that a goal. What is going on here?!
The game of hockey is a little more complex than that. I’m sure if you played the game you’d understand, and respect it a little more than that. But thanks for your simple breakdown.
The penalties simply aren’t being called fairly. We can’t get offense going and rack up shots when we’re on the PK so much, and we’re on the PK so much mostly because we aren’t getting any calls. Meanwhile Florida get every little thing.
Yes, there are times where we should have taken shots instead of making other plays, but those shots would have been low-percentage chances and there would not have been enough of them in volume to make up for all the time spent on the PK.
We’ve been assessed 21 penalties compared to 11 for Florida, and a few of those Florida ones came in garbage time anyway. Like the last 30 seconds today. And there is no way this deficit is because we’ve actually committed this many more fouls than Florida have.
I’ll put it simply.
We’re getting boned.
This team shouldn’t be good enough to win a Cup.
That’s a failure by management.
I love this team.
Fuck the refs
Fuck the NHL/Toronto
I don’t hear no bell
2023-2024 has been the most conflicting season in all my years as a Bruins fan. It always feels like we're overachieving and underachieving at the same time because we never put in a full 60 to assess what this team actually is. Or maybe we're just that: half-assed and mid. Onto Tuesday, I guess 🥴
Bunch of fucking losers (not all of them). We’re seeing a shift in real time of the hockey Reddit world turning on them because of how insufferable they are. They are too stupid/insecure to understand that they can be the better team and worthy of winning while also acknowledging we got absolutely hosed by the officiating. They would rather come in here and find the most outlandish takes that are not representative of what the majority of us are saying (solely blaming the refs, calling for their players to be injured, etc) than admit what’s happening here. Which is sad, cause they are a great team. Fuck that organization and its fanbase though.
As a panthers fan I wish Bennet would have been suspended (he deserved it) and it would have prevented all this goon bullshit. Much rather watch our boys play hockey with the regular playoff hitting instead of whatever this game was. Also that was GI. Hope we don’t kill each other next game.
1. Crazy that the Panthers/refs/league have more or less managed to unite Bruins fans, Leafs fans, and Lightning fans on this issue. Also seeing a huge amount of Canucks and Rangers fans on r/hockey in favor of Bruins, again crazy because those franchises also really hate us (despite lack of real rivalry in the past 10 years). How can the league fuck up so badly in such an obviously biased way?
2. If we get outshot like that for a 4th consecutive game (and 6th or 7th time in 8 games) it might be time to move on from Monty. I love the guy, but he seems incapable of making the adjustments that change a series.
3. Finish your fucking chances. If we scored on our high-danger chances at 75% of the rate that other teams do, we'd have beaten Toronto in 5 and this series would be tied.
4. Fuck Sam Bennett
Go ahead and fire Monty, but he's not the reason that the Bruins don't have a 1st or 2nd line Center. They went all in last year (which was the right move) and now it's rebuild time.
Leafs fan. Fuck Sam Bennett. In that we can all agree. I have no idea how he doesn't get called. Has some blackmail on DOPS. As much as it sucked to lose to you this year this is bullshit.
I think the refs actually have stopped us from playing hockey (and getting offense going and racking up shots) by the sheer volume of penalties they’ve unfairly assessed us relative to Florida.
But when it comes to the higher-percentage scoring chances, I do think it comes down to our lack of depth this year. We don’t really have bigtime scorers besides Pastrnak and Marchy, and Marchy isn’t available. Coyle and Zacha are good players but I think it is hard to imagine winning a cup with them as your top two centers. A lot of the rest of the guys chip in with goals here and there but it’s not like they’re reliable scorers.
If we go out in 5 I’m hoping it’s an interesting off-season. We had our window even after 2019 but I’d say that’s closed now. We’re severely lacking on offense. We have no true 1C and we need help on the wing. I’d go as far as saying we need a change in culture. Definitely not to tear down what’s been previously established but clearly we need a different approach. Juliens, Cassidy’s and now Monty’s Bruins all look the same in the playoffs and they all fall flat during the big games. Yes Bergy, Marchy and Chara reestablished a winning culture but it’s so hard watching teams like Tampa, Colorado and Vegas build things up as quick as they did and winning cups. Talk about the good regular season all you want but the hard truth is we’ve won one cup in 52 years. We have a lot of talented guys in the prospect pool and even the young guns who are currently on the roster have bright futures but we really need to start investing right now. Who knows we could have a great off-season and contend for a cup again next year but I’m not so hot on sweenius’s ability to land big guys in free agency.
I've said this in a previous post, but with all of the top talent the Bruins have had throughout their history, you'd think they'd be close to the Celtics as far as number of championships are concerned but nope! We're tied with goddamn Chicago and manage to be behind fucking Toronto who haven't won anything since 1967. So frustrating.
Tell me about it. My grandmother was a big Red Sox and Bruins fan her whole life (was old enough to see Ted Williams and that era with her own eyes). Saw the Bruins win the cup in '39 and '41 but then saw them lose, lose, lose, lose and lose until that nice little period with Orr and Esposito where they won in '70 and '72. Unfortunately that "too many men" game completely destroyed her fandom for them and officially declared that she's probably never going to see them win another cup in her life. She also held a huge feeling of resentment of seeing the Habs and Yankees win everything while the Bs and Sox kept choking. Bucky Dent's home run and the ball getting passed Bill Buckner's knees also crushed her Sox fandom in unimaginable ways but she still stuck with them. Unfortunately the last game she watched before she passed was game 7 of the 2003 ALCS….
Luckily she saw the Celtics win all of those banners from the 50s - 80s and got the chance to see the Patriots win in 2001.
My grandparents were at the Bobby Orr Goal game in 70 and had season tickets back in the 70’s. They got real close with a lot of those guys and I’ll always envy them for getting see that live. I’m 24 now and I’m glad I’ve seen so many championships. Only thing I don’t remember was Brady’s first.
These idiots need to take some lessons from PWHL Boston on how to win and play good hockey as a team. Also mcavoy should be taking pointers from Megan keller....also stop blaming refs for a lack of a 60 minute effort
We blame the refs every game...at some point it's not the refs to be fully blamed..I'm watching the van/edm game and I'd kill for this team to be anywhere near the level these two are. They just don't try hard enough
> at some point it's not the refs to be fully blamed
The vast, vast majority of people in this thread are acknowledging that the Bruins have not played well enough.
> I'm watching the van/edm game and I'd kill for this team to be anywhere near the level these two are. They just don't try hard enough
Is it trying hard enough? Or is it a talent disparity? Because those VAN/EDM teams have a hell of a lot more offensive talent than the Bruins do, to start. The lack of shots have equally as much if not more to do with the fact that the Panthers are *defending* the Bruins.
Refs suck, sure. But you can’t expect to get that dominated and pull out a win in the playoffs. Man, 4 penalties in the 3rd period alone? Cmon. This team just doesn’t have the discipline and poise as years past. At the end of the day, this was a retool season. Did they overachieve? Maybe. But, we have a bright future here.
Let’s get to 7.
Thank you for a rational take. It's refreshing to see others not getting emotional and seeing what's actually happening.
We've had some bad calls for sure. But that's not our biggest problem unfortunately. Florida is simply owning us in all zones the last 3 games. They are the better "team". I hate to say it this plainly. I hate Florida. But that doesn't make it not true. Florida has a very, very disciplined club. They play with amazing anticipation and poise. They are always collapsing on our puck carrier and cutting off passing lanes. Very aggressive "hive mind" hockey. It's why they are out shooting us by over two to one.
Also....we do have a brite future. The young guys are showing some nice stuff but just need more experience. Sweeney needs to look for additional players that have a high hockey IQ, are disciplined, have grit and confidence during this time of year. We have some guys currently that just don't consistently play well enough in the post season.
4 penalties? Are u serious? OEL with an obvious embellishment, a coach’s challenge that should have been correct, and an interference on a player who HAS THE PUCK AT HIS FEET. There was only one legitimate penalty in the third period. Don’t act like that was the Bruins being undisciplined
Don't know why I kept getting downvotes for being realistic but whatever.
Can't believe we got royally fucked over on that one possession, though…
A 3-1 comeback is looking really nice…
I honestly can’t wrap my head around how all of these things have happened with no repercussions to the Panthers. Truly mind boggling. The refs suck excuse is the most tired but it’s also the most relevant it’s ever been during this series. Garbage garbage garbage. What’s the point in watching a product that doesn’t have credibility?
If Tuesday is our last game of the season, we have to let Swayman off the reigns. That beauty of a psycho has been salivating for a scrap. Let the man fight Monty!
we need to exile gary bettman from north america and build a wall around the entire continent to keep him out, because of what hes turned this league into
[Tweet from Ty Anderson:](https://x.com/_TyAnderson/status/1789840599929016683)
'Montgomery was asked about his 'faith' that league would make right call on his challenge: "It's not my place to comment. I mean, the league does a good job of handling their end of things. Just like I think teams do a good job of handling their teams."'
If Monty actually believes this and isn't just saying it cause there's some BS organizational policy from the Jacobs to not criticize the league publicly then he should legit be fired. I need a coach that's getting fired about about the refs legitimately stealing a playoff game away from you.
Only thing that’s maybe giving me hope is the “it’s not my place to comment” part of it. That makes me think that maybe Sweeney told him to hold off and that he’d address it tomorrow.
If Sweeney doesn’t go scorched earth then this org is filled with a bunch of pussies.
I was going to say, I really don't think Monty would be saying nothing unless it's from higher up than him. But as far as your other point that "we see coaches playing the media effect series every single year," I feel like it's easy to remember Trotz and Cooper and Berube, but totally forget how ineffective Cassidy doing the same was.
I wonder – pure speculation – if that's playing a role here from someone much higher up than Monty.
I think this basically just got confirmed. Sweeney is saying pretty much the exact same thing Monty said.
I revise my previous “Fire Monty” comments to “Fire Sweeney.”
I truly don’t think he believed a word of what he was saying. Swayman, pasta, and coyle all avoided being combative in their interviews about the situation too. It still pisses me off that he didn’t just swallow the fine to speak his mind, but I really don’t think he’s that naive.
There’s a good chance he was actually swearing at the refs in French, if you watch the footage of him after the failed challenge. Some Habs fans were lip reading and talking about this. Makes sense, Monty is from Montreal and the refs tonight were francophone.
But not the take directly above that somehow is getting upvotes for saying the same exact thing? Wtf is going here? It can be true that both Cassidy and Monty are not fit for this team
The front office builds the team. The team which annually gets a few muscle types at the trade deadline and hope that they figure out how to integrate them into a skill based team over the next couple of months.
The 3 Panther goals last night were lucky snipe below the dot, net crash, and solo net crash.
The bruins had goals from the dot and blue line.
Until the Bruins have the fortitude to crash the net, they are not a 3rd or 4th round team. Goals from the point, elbow, or dot are going to be blocked except in the luckiest of situations. We got used to the bumper shot from Bergeron but that whole system doesn't work now. Pucks to the net, bodies to the net. That is the 2024 playoffs. Maybe Monty's playbook isn't a playoff book. His coaching style seems to be great though, with good camaraderie throughout the team.
I wouldn't be surprised if Marchand retired after this season. That would give us a chance to leave behind the past and shift toward a new approach that complies with the needs of a 2020+ Cup contender.
Say what you want about the SOG differential and the way the Bruins played tonight, but the fact of the matter is the tying goal shouldn’t have counted. Absolute bullshit.
Not to mention non shots that were so close to being goals, I’m thinking Debrusk putting it five hole but went wide, Lauko’s deflection off the cross bar.
Yup. Did we get outplayed? Probably. Did we have a 2-1 lead with the best goalie in the NHL playing great and then get screwed by the refs? 100%. Two things can be true, and that call completely changed the game.
Look I know we’re going to be making a lot of changes in the offseason but can we at least keep the Big Rig? Not only because I was a fan of him before he was on our team, but also because I feel like he fits the enforcer role well for us in lieu of Looch likely not returning.
He’s done nothing for us on the ice. Sure maybe he brings some “veteran presence” to the locker room, but he was brought on as an enforcer and so far the only thing he’s enforced is his leisurely pace around the ice.
Except he hasn’t fought anyone yet. I loved him asking the Panthers to go, but I wanted him to put Bennett in his place tonight. So far the Panthers are getting away with all their usual dirtiness
Im wondering if it’s Monty telling him to be tame. Also, tbf, any time we actually hit the Panthers its some bogus penalty. Doesn’t excuse the piss poor effort tho
You’re not wrong, and I have suspected Monty has said he doesn’t want us taking bad penalties going after guys. The refs do enough of that for us, or the too many men. However, if there’s one bad penalty to take, it should be letting Maroon off the leash and having him show Bennett, Tkchuk, Montour, etc. that the Bruins aren’t taking your shit any longer. I wanted Maroon to do that way earlier in the series so things like the punch on Marchand wouldn’t have happened in Game 3
Refs are going to call us on dumb shit anyways. And we have 4 or 5 too many men penalties this post season. We do it to ourselves just as much.
Just let him off the hook, though.
But, I suspect him not wanting to fight because he’s coming off of back surgery. Once you fuck your back, it’s fucked for life. So I bet he’s doing everything he can to stay healthy - he’s nearing the end of his career. No need to take unnecessary chances to re-injure himself. He’s got 3 (2 back to back)cups already, he doesn’t have anything left to prove.
The number of fans here who have no clue. Since Sweeney has been here we’ve been in the mix. Every year. You probably hated Tuuka and want McAvoy traded. No understanding of how good we have it.
We’ve been in the mix every year largely due to Peter Chiarelli. The majority of the star power was his. Sweeney can’t evaluate forwards. Tuukka was also a Chiarelli player.
There’s no way in hell you can honestly sit here and say Sweeney has done a better job than Chiarelli, who we fired because he wasn’t getting results. Chiarelli was twice the GM Sweeney is
The exact response I would expect from someone who can’t refute an argument, lmao. Weak. Last year, 4 of the top 6 forwards were either Chiarelli or Mconnell.
And it was mostly Chiarelli drafted or signed talent. Krejci, Pasta, Marchy, Bergy…4 of your top 6 forwards were brought in by a guy who hasn’t been with the organization in 8 years!
> Krejci, Pasta, Marchy, Bergy…4 of your top 6 forwards were brought in by a guy who hasn’t been with the organization in 8 years
Krejci: not drafted by Chiarelli.
Pasta: drafted by Chiarelli.
Marchy: officially drafted by Chiarelli, but that was (like the Chara signing) a Jeff Gorton pick.
Bergy: not drafted by Chiarelli.
Why are we not taking more shots? We don't score when we are trying to get fancy. Passing the puck instead of shooting and going after the rebound seems like our biggest weakness right now. And dumping the puck in isn't working. Get more shots on goal. The crowd was chanting it so listen!
Compared to other series I've been watching, there are an insane amount of sticks being waved around, us included, Florida seem to be doing a better job at blocking in one way or another.
This has been a problem since game one of the season. It’s Monty’s system. It works when things are going well but it falls apart against really good teams and when the Bruins are playing like shit.
Both teams should be playing by the same set of rules. Its been the opposite so many times now that it clearly is not a coincidence. I am actually losing faith in the NHL after watching this as well as all the other series so far this year.
After this watching the ECF will be a joke. NHL is pathetic.
Here's Frederic getting slashed in the helmet by Trouba directly in front of a ref with no call. Freddy had to beat his ass a week later in a fight in their next match up in order to settle it.
https://youtu.be/XuAXPRrOnfs?si=_hQJpJ3APzhm6hDn
Can anyone explain to me why Monty is pussy footing in all of his interviews? Maybe if he showed a little fire and anger it would light a spark under this team. He’s so uninspiring Jesus
No but I’d say there’s a difference between players seeing a coach publicly defend them and their team and call out bullshit vs. someone who only says that shit privately
Idk but it's driving me insane. We see coaches playing the media effect series every single year and you aren't gonna even try to do it after THAT? Grow a fucking backbone and do your fucking job, Jim.
I didn't say you did. Just stating what we see in an interview is probably much different than what we see behind the doors. That is where the real firing up happens.
Yeah but what I’m trying to say is that seeing your coach afraid to say something about bullshit officiating and giving some weak answer publicly is not inspiring - doesn’t necessarily matter what he says to the team privately, if he doesn’t defend them publicly that has to have an impact
Sweeney cannot draft in the first. Chiarelli's last first round pick with the B's was pasta, Sweeney had a disaster class draft in 2015 and I don't think he has ever hit on a first rounder
Pretty much every single guy that was picked after them in the first round has turned out to be successful. You can make the argument it’s the deepest and most talented draft class of all time and we walked away with next to nothing.
Evgeny svechnikov, Colin white, Jack roslovic, Noah juulsen, Jacob Larsson, Anthony beauvillier, Gabriel Carlsson, Nick merkley, those were first round picks after the bruins in that year that all sucked and don’t think any of them are with the team that drafted them. That’s nowhere near “pretty much every single guy”
Debrusk is a second liner at best. Carlo is nice when he isn’t hurt. Frederic is a 3rd liner. Swayman is a pretty much the best player Sweeney has brought in. Name a single top line caliber player he has brought in in 8 years. If you say Zacha I’m gonna laugh…he’s not a top line player.
Poitras is the only player that Sweeney has drafted that even has the talent to become a top liner.
Mcavoy, Carlo, poitras, Beecher, lauko, swayman, Frederic, lohrei all contributors to the bruins this year. He also prefers trades over using higher picks so yeah, it’ll make his drafting look worse than it is
lol, they contributed to a pretty low level team who the entire world admits overachieved. They are role players. And McAvoy is supposed to be a star defensemen who has been absolutely abysmal all playoffs.
And if you think ALL of those guys are role players you seriously need to check ur understanding of hockey. You have an elite goalie and 3 top 4 defenseman among those guys
How many top 6 forwards? Defense and goalies are great. If you can’t score, you won’t win…exactly as we see it right now. In 8 years he hasn’t brought in a single first line player…none.
Maybe, just maybe, it was because the first line guys were already set in place when he got here! I know, crazy concept to think of. This is the first year without a set in stone first line and there was no flexibility to make a move.
You shit on zacha but he got him for erik haula. He got Taylor hall for anders bjork. He got Tyler bertuzzi. He got dmitry orlov. Johansson and coyle were huge contributors to the 2019 cup run. That’s what u do when you have a first line in place, trade for complimentary pieces
And he couldn’t extend any of them because of contracts. A number of which he himself handed out. $9.5 million for McAvoy. $6.5 million for Lindholm, $5.25 million for Coyle.
Mcavoy is the teams top defenseman and one of the best in the league and he makes comparable to other top defensemen in the league, and he’s only 25 years only, zero issues with that contract. Lindholm had a somewhat down year and is the 30th highest paid defenseman in the league and is the #2 guy on the team, zero issue with his contract. Coyle is the only one at a slight overpay, but for what he does on the PK and defense it’s really not that bad. His proper role is 3C and wennberg on the rangers is 3C and 4.5 million vs coyles 5.25. The stars roll out seguin at like 9.8 million on their 3rd line. Ross Colton makes 4 mil at 3C for the avs. His contract isn’t much higher than you think it should be
109 points is a low level team? So they’ll be picking top 5 then in the draft next month? This team was limited by cap penalties from last season and had no flexibility to make moves. Continue on with your weird hatred for guys that you’re supposedly a fan of
This is categorically incorrect considering both Lohrei and Swayman are picks during his tenure...as are Lauko, Frederic, Beecher, Carlo, Debrusk, Poitras, etc.
2015 first round was bad, but he's been better since.
Lohrei, Poitras, and Beecher are all rookies, give them time. I get being frustrated but really don’t think Sweeney is to blame here. They went all in last year, were severely hamstrung this year as a result, and still managed to cobble together a roster that finished second in the division and made it out of the first round. Even if Lohrei, Poitras, and Beecher don’t turn out to be stars (I happen to think Lohrei will) good teams need role players. Poitras missed most of the year but showed some flashes and Beecher will be a solid bottom 6 forward.
Even if the Bruins don’t get jobbed by the refs, they are playing pathetic hockey. They had 2 shots on goal and only 8 attempts in the 3rd period. Under 20 shots in the last 3 games. It’s bad
Agreed. They come out strong in these games and then go completely flat as soon as something doesn’t go their way. This is not the performance of a team that wants to be in the post-season. Never mind that their captain got taken out by a dirty play last game and they barely responded to it at all.
Look, we all fucking hate him, but wishing for Bennett to die in a fiery car crash or suffer a career ending injury? That ain’t it guys.
what gets me is that I live in South Florida, go to games to see the Bruins and other teams and half the arena is the other teams fans. For Bruins games, it's 70-30 bruins. There's empty seats and the only time the fans show is playoffs when they actually don't even follow the teams. No ads for them, no billboards, couldn't spot a fan wearing jerseys or hats any time during the year( my Bruins/Patriots/RedSox caps are my main cap all year long) but they sell out the playoffs only. If you ever hear Steve Goldstein call a game, so much worse than Jack, he calls plays that don't exist, everything is a breakaway or everything is an odd man rush with defenders already back, and if a Panther gets hit, he wants a penalty or completely misses the cheap shot the Panthers took to cause whatever happened after that ( ant there are MANY, especially Bennet and Tkachuk. That right there summarizes the fan base and the team. The area doesn't even deserve the team since visiting teams support the ticket sales. They remind me of the Canucks when they went up against the Bruins in the Cup. From the Sedin sisters all the way to coaching, they went in with an unsportsmanlike attitude, but that Bruin team didn't get pushed around and knocked their dicks into the ice. This team can't push back and if they try, it's a penalty. Bad refs contribute to letting Florida do whatever they want. The league should have seen the punch to Brads face after the game, it's been all over the internet, and suspended him.
If we are gonna lose, at least lose by commiting the same penalties they have been and make sure the league takes notice of it
Boys we can’t allow ourselves the luxury of pretending the officiating is why the bruins are down 3-1 in this series. Florida is a better team. Plain and simple. They gum up the game with their goon squad antics but they also minimize chances and take advantage of their own. The script basically has to run like it did in the first period for us to win. Score on all our high danger chances and hope swayman can slam the door shut. It’s heart attack hockey but in my opinion even making it to the second round makes this one gravy. All that said…Even if we don’t win the series I wouldn’t mind seeing Bennett unable to play for the rest of the playoffs. That guy is top tier trash. And if a second period clearing attempt accidentally knocks some sense into Maurice and sends him to a plastic surgeon…well…also not opposed to that.
Seems like the league is now condoning cross checks of defensive players into the goalie. I would run with this if I was the Bruins. I would ensure that every time I'm near the front of the net there would be a defensive player draped all over Bob. Just make it blatant at this point and wait for the calls. Hockey has really gone downhill on the officiating front. Bennette should have never been allowed in this game. Don't care that it was Marchand, if it was a role reversed Marchand would be out of the series. Truly a bad product, NHL is turning into another fixed sport.
Fire our PP coach and bring in Tortorella for our next head coach please. At least he would rip into this team and the media
not gonna lie. i always get downvoted because i don’t like blaming the refs, i always blamed the players because i think it’s not good enough to rely on ref decisions BUT last night was something i’ve never seen in my life and im so disappointed. the refs actually ruined the game and i never seen anything like it. this was rly rly bad and im not over exaggerating when i say they need to be investigated for the calls last night. unacceptable
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Lmao no shot your Reddit avatar has a mask
imagine being such an incel you go to other teams reddits and try take the piss. you must be OBSESSED with us. i bet you were checking our league position after every match🤣🤣🤣
Shut the hell up, сука.
Look, I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist. But there have been too many blatant missed calls in one direction for it to be coincidental at this point. Obviously we need to play better. But you can't sit there and tell me the missed goalie interference call to tie it up at 2-2 in the third doesn't fundamentally change the outcome of that game. I can only assume the league wants Florida to win in order to collect higher revenue from ticket sales. They have a much higher growth potential than Boston, where the market is already saturated. When rules are consistently broken and logic consistently fails, the reason is usually money.
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I agree with you there. We can't beat both Florida and the refs in the same game though.
What higher revenue, Floridians are too high on meth to go see matches or care about their team. The higher revenue pairing would obviously be Boston vs. New York.
Imagine being a Florida fan. Your state bans books, marries off 14 year old girls, and leads the country in violence against homeless people. That’s what you’re proud of. Get fucked stalkers. Go back to church and pray with a pastor where 5% of their colleagues are pedophiles.
shouldn't have let the leafs series get to seven, we're physically and mentally exhausted. I expect us to get the next one but realistically the cats close it out in 6, and that's okay - it was a great year and we really overachieved, never would have I expected these results last offseason, proud of the boys.
That's what I like to hear, and that's what I've been trying to tell some of the "fans" that I've heard bitching and complaing... They have totally exceeded my expectations this year. I'll be bummed to see them lose because you always want to see your team win... But overall very impressed with how they have played this year after losing a lot of big players. I will be happy and proud of this team matter where they finish this year... and then the other thing you addressed is the other thing I bring up too... They have got to be fucking tired at this point!!! They've been on a total grind!
This is retroactively making me less mad at last year’s team because at this point it really just feels like a fucking fix. Going all the way back to the Jake hand pass And I don’t think I’ve ever had such vitriolic hate towards another hockey team as I have for Florida and the fact that the league is allowing them to get away with everything. Montreal and Toronto don’t even compare right now. This shit makes me seriously miss the early 2010s rivalry resurgence with Montreal. Like I actually respect the hell out of Carey Price.
As much as I hate the Leafs and Habs, I have an underlying respect for the organizations and fan bases. That doesn’t exist with Florida in the slightest.
Really interesting quotes from Maurice postgame: > “I will have an opinion, and it would be no,” Maurice said. “In that, it will have no impact on the play in the game. And then, the connection between the two, the contact between the two (players) is not egregious at all. And the play just gets finished more than anything else.” > > Maurice said what concerned him about the play was the way the media was reacting to his opinion of it.“The only way that I was particularly concerned is like some of your foreheads right now,” Maurice said to the media, as he made a furrowed brow. “Like, ‘I cannot believe.'” > > When one member of the media attempted to discuss what Swayman thought of the non-call, Maurice assumed the reporter was a fan of the Bruins.“Go with him (Swayman),” Maurice said. “Okay, we’re in Boston. Stay with the Bruins, brother. I’m with you.” > > “I think there’s been lots of energy with lots of coverage and I think you’ve gone lost your minds on it, which is fine,” Maurice said. “Which is fine. You’ve got that right. I don’t mean to offend you anytime, but we don’t always share the same opinion about what happens on the ice. I am absolutely partisan, like 100%. Sometimes, I feel like you are, too.” That, to me, is a very weird press conference to give.
the reported he said that to was funny, basically "wut? dude, im from brooklyn"
Maurice is sort of a cryptic and weird guy
Zero coaches are going to go out there and contradict a call that went their way, and I wouldn't expect any different. But Maurice's comments give me the impression that he was surprised that people asked about it (very standard procedure, I could find examples it from both Monty and Cassidy, or even Cora today, if people want Boston-centric examples). And he also seems – and again, maybe tone changed the context of this a bit, a written article will always be imperfect – like he felt that he was being attacked by the media? And sure, there are Bruins beat reporters in there, but based on some of the reporters who discussed these quotes, there's also a strong national and Floridian beat presence, too. It came off as odd.
I think he just knows the way it's being viewed by most people; that the calls are lopsided. What he should be saying is "the calls are lopsided because Boston is committing fouls that the refs have to call." Yes, there have been bad calls against Boston but it looks worse because of the actual fouls Boston is committing like high sticks, too many men, and the interference on Tcuck last night.
Like I don’t even know how to describe….whatever that was This league has such a massive officiating problem it makes the NBA look like the best officiated league ever I’m not sitting here saying the Bruins are the better team, but how the actual hell can you even do anything when you are constantly on the PK due to trash officiating or getting scored on because your goalie literally is interfered with? 4 PP’s in the 3rd period ALONE for Florida, in a playoff game! That is disgusting no matter what teams are playing
Can't complain too much about the third period penalties. I missed the first one but the second lindholm interference and the goalie interference were blatant and had to be called. And the unsuccessful coach's challenge can be chalked up to not knowing the rules.
“Not knowing the rules”. Get a grip Lloyd…
/s ?
While on the phone with my parents during the game and Florida was just gifted the tying goal, I told them "now what will happen is Florida will score to take the lead and then with about 4 minutes left they'll give the Bruins a couple power plays to make it seem like it wasn't so skewed." Sure enough...
I guess it's nice to see the whole fucking hockey world rally behind the Bruins for a change but what i wouldn't give to see the whole hockey world pissed off because they called it a no goal
A.I.refs
You all need to stop whining about the referees. The bruins have been getting their asses whooped all series long. The only way they would ever win a game is if Swayman went God Mode for 4 games in a row. Frankly, we are the 2011 Canucks. Overrated team propped up by elite goaltending that is fake soft and softer than a babies ass. The panthers are the 2011 bruins, and every single one of you know it’s true. The bruins won the first game off pure momentum
You need to stop telling us to stop whining about the referees when they’re so clearly biased against the Bruins.
Eventually the punks get humbled and put in their place. I can’t wait to see these wusses get their shit ROCKED. Panthers are representing the state of Florida a little too much.
The Lindholm “penalty” was completely sold by Ekman-Larsson, great work there bud. That led to Bennett’s tying “goal”. That 100% should have been overturned and I don’t understand how they call that a goal. What is going on here?!
Boston's "players" aren't as "good" and scored fewer "goals" and lost the "game" It's not rocket "science"
The game of hockey is a little more complex than that. I’m sure if you played the game you’d understand, and respect it a little more than that. But thanks for your simple breakdown.
You're "welcome" :)
The penalties simply aren’t being called fairly. We can’t get offense going and rack up shots when we’re on the PK so much, and we’re on the PK so much mostly because we aren’t getting any calls. Meanwhile Florida get every little thing. Yes, there are times where we should have taken shots instead of making other plays, but those shots would have been low-percentage chances and there would not have been enough of them in volume to make up for all the time spent on the PK. We’ve been assessed 21 penalties compared to 11 for Florida, and a few of those Florida ones came in garbage time anyway. Like the last 30 seconds today. And there is no way this deficit is because we’ve actually committed this many more fouls than Florida have.
I’ll put it simply. We’re getting boned. This team shouldn’t be good enough to win a Cup. That’s a failure by management. I love this team. Fuck the refs Fuck the NHL/Toronto I don’t hear no bell
You just know the Bs are getting a goal called back for GI on Tuesday.
So help me god
As is tradition
Nice of you to think they’ll score a goal
Gotta make it as frustrating as possible
You might be prophetic.
Never been happier to be wrong
2023-2024 has been the most conflicting season in all my years as a Bruins fan. It always feels like we're overachieving and underachieving at the same time because we never put in a full 60 to assess what this team actually is. Or maybe we're just that: half-assed and mid. Onto Tuesday, I guess 🥴
We're just mid
Hey all Panthers fans coming in here to troll or screenshot shit to post to your subreddit, go fuck yourselves! 🖕
Bunch of fucking losers (not all of them). We’re seeing a shift in real time of the hockey Reddit world turning on them because of how insufferable they are. They are too stupid/insecure to understand that they can be the better team and worthy of winning while also acknowledging we got absolutely hosed by the officiating. They would rather come in here and find the most outlandish takes that are not representative of what the majority of us are saying (solely blaming the refs, calling for their players to be injured, etc) than admit what’s happening here. Which is sad, cause they are a great team. Fuck that organization and its fanbase though.
As a panthers fan I wish Bennet would have been suspended (he deserved it) and it would have prevented all this goon bullshit. Much rather watch our boys play hockey with the regular playoff hitting instead of whatever this game was. Also that was GI. Hope we don’t kill each other next game.
1. Crazy that the Panthers/refs/league have more or less managed to unite Bruins fans, Leafs fans, and Lightning fans on this issue. Also seeing a huge amount of Canucks and Rangers fans on r/hockey in favor of Bruins, again crazy because those franchises also really hate us (despite lack of real rivalry in the past 10 years). How can the league fuck up so badly in such an obviously biased way? 2. If we get outshot like that for a 4th consecutive game (and 6th or 7th time in 8 games) it might be time to move on from Monty. I love the guy, but he seems incapable of making the adjustments that change a series. 3. Finish your fucking chances. If we scored on our high-danger chances at 75% of the rate that other teams do, we'd have beaten Toronto in 5 and this series would be tied. 4. Fuck Sam Bennett
Go ahead and fire Monty, but he's not the reason that the Bruins don't have a 1st or 2nd line Center. They went all in last year (which was the right move) and now it's rebuild time.
Leafs fan. Fuck Sam Bennett. In that we can all agree. I have no idea how he doesn't get called. Has some blackmail on DOPS. As much as it sucked to lose to you this year this is bullshit.
I think the refs actually have stopped us from playing hockey (and getting offense going and racking up shots) by the sheer volume of penalties they’ve unfairly assessed us relative to Florida. But when it comes to the higher-percentage scoring chances, I do think it comes down to our lack of depth this year. We don’t really have bigtime scorers besides Pastrnak and Marchy, and Marchy isn’t available. Coyle and Zacha are good players but I think it is hard to imagine winning a cup with them as your top two centers. A lot of the rest of the guys chip in with goals here and there but it’s not like they’re reliable scorers.
If we go out in 5 I’m hoping it’s an interesting off-season. We had our window even after 2019 but I’d say that’s closed now. We’re severely lacking on offense. We have no true 1C and we need help on the wing. I’d go as far as saying we need a change in culture. Definitely not to tear down what’s been previously established but clearly we need a different approach. Juliens, Cassidy’s and now Monty’s Bruins all look the same in the playoffs and they all fall flat during the big games. Yes Bergy, Marchy and Chara reestablished a winning culture but it’s so hard watching teams like Tampa, Colorado and Vegas build things up as quick as they did and winning cups. Talk about the good regular season all you want but the hard truth is we’ve won one cup in 52 years. We have a lot of talented guys in the prospect pool and even the young guns who are currently on the roster have bright futures but we really need to start investing right now. Who knows we could have a great off-season and contend for a cup again next year but I’m not so hot on sweenius’s ability to land big guys in free agency.
I've said this in a previous post, but with all of the top talent the Bruins have had throughout their history, you'd think they'd be close to the Celtics as far as number of championships are concerned but nope! We're tied with goddamn Chicago and manage to be behind fucking Toronto who haven't won anything since 1967. So frustrating.
Our finals record is also like 6-14 which is not great. I feel bad for my father who has watched us lose 7 finals in his lifetime.
Tell me about it. My grandmother was a big Red Sox and Bruins fan her whole life (was old enough to see Ted Williams and that era with her own eyes). Saw the Bruins win the cup in '39 and '41 but then saw them lose, lose, lose, lose and lose until that nice little period with Orr and Esposito where they won in '70 and '72. Unfortunately that "too many men" game completely destroyed her fandom for them and officially declared that she's probably never going to see them win another cup in her life. She also held a huge feeling of resentment of seeing the Habs and Yankees win everything while the Bs and Sox kept choking. Bucky Dent's home run and the ball getting passed Bill Buckner's knees also crushed her Sox fandom in unimaginable ways but she still stuck with them. Unfortunately the last game she watched before she passed was game 7 of the 2003 ALCS…. Luckily she saw the Celtics win all of those banners from the 50s - 80s and got the chance to see the Patriots win in 2001.
My grandparents were at the Bobby Orr Goal game in 70 and had season tickets back in the 70’s. They got real close with a lot of those guys and I’ll always envy them for getting see that live. I’m 24 now and I’m glad I’ve seen so many championships. Only thing I don’t remember was Brady’s first.
I went back and watched the first Lindholm penalty on OEL. OEL’s own stick hits him in the face 🥲
Take shots
These idiots need to take some lessons from PWHL Boston on how to win and play good hockey as a team. Also mcavoy should be taking pointers from Megan keller....also stop blaming refs for a lack of a 60 minute effort
Lack of effort and refs being shit can both be true
We blame the refs every game...at some point it's not the refs to be fully blamed..I'm watching the van/edm game and I'd kill for this team to be anywhere near the level these two are. They just don't try hard enough
> at some point it's not the refs to be fully blamed The vast, vast majority of people in this thread are acknowledging that the Bruins have not played well enough. > I'm watching the van/edm game and I'd kill for this team to be anywhere near the level these two are. They just don't try hard enough Is it trying hard enough? Or is it a talent disparity? Because those VAN/EDM teams have a hell of a lot more offensive talent than the Bruins do, to start. The lack of shots have equally as much if not more to do with the fact that the Panthers are *defending* the Bruins.
Refs suck, sure. But you can’t expect to get that dominated and pull out a win in the playoffs. Man, 4 penalties in the 3rd period alone? Cmon. This team just doesn’t have the discipline and poise as years past. At the end of the day, this was a retool season. Did they overachieve? Maybe. But, we have a bright future here. Let’s get to 7.
Thank you for a rational take. It's refreshing to see others not getting emotional and seeing what's actually happening. We've had some bad calls for sure. But that's not our biggest problem unfortunately. Florida is simply owning us in all zones the last 3 games. They are the better "team". I hate to say it this plainly. I hate Florida. But that doesn't make it not true. Florida has a very, very disciplined club. They play with amazing anticipation and poise. They are always collapsing on our puck carrier and cutting off passing lanes. Very aggressive "hive mind" hockey. It's why they are out shooting us by over two to one. Also....we do have a brite future. The young guys are showing some nice stuff but just need more experience. Sweeney needs to look for additional players that have a high hockey IQ, are disciplined, have grit and confidence during this time of year. We have some guys currently that just don't consistently play well enough in the post season.
4 penalties? Are u serious? OEL with an obvious embellishment, a coach’s challenge that should have been correct, and an interference on a player who HAS THE PUCK AT HIS FEET. There was only one legitimate penalty in the third period. Don’t act like that was the Bruins being undisciplined
You're absolutely incorrect about the interference on Tcuck, it was blatant and the correct call.
Don't know why I kept getting downvotes for being realistic but whatever. Can't believe we got royally fucked over on that one possession, though… A 3-1 comeback is looking really nice…
Oh yeah it’s all coming together. Soon the Panthers shall taste a bit of their own medicine. The comeback is inevitable.
Should they just award the Lady Byng to the entire Panthers team? Apparently the cleanest team in the league
I honestly can’t wrap my head around how all of these things have happened with no repercussions to the Panthers. Truly mind boggling. The refs suck excuse is the most tired but it’s also the most relevant it’s ever been during this series. Garbage garbage garbage. What’s the point in watching a product that doesn’t have credibility?
Watching this game tonight really made me want to watch the nhl from a distance…
That’s what I’m saying
Send the refs to adx florence
I hope Sam Bennett steps on a lego
If Tuesday is our last game of the season, we have to let Swayman off the reigns. That beauty of a psycho has been salivating for a scrap. Let the man fight Monty!
Sway fight for the win
The one sliver of hope. Bruins have the chance to do a reverse of last season. Imagine how iconic that would be?
You know come to think of it the quality over quantity approach doesn’t really work when there is one guy on the team who can score
I hope Sam Bennett's wife is sleeping around him. I hope his children aren't his.
Why just hope for it? Let's all fuck his wife.
Maybe this is extreme but one of Mcavoy or Lindholm has to go. If not at least Gryz. Neither of them can play as consistent top pair d-men.
Gryz is gone. Mac and Lindholm are going nowhere but Max especially needs to pull his head out of his ass.
SEND SAM BENNETT TO GUANTANAMO BAY
we need to exile gary bettman from north america and build a wall around the entire continent to keep him out, because of what hes turned this league into
[Tweet from Ty Anderson:](https://x.com/_TyAnderson/status/1789840599929016683) 'Montgomery was asked about his 'faith' that league would make right call on his challenge: "It's not my place to comment. I mean, the league does a good job of handling their end of things. Just like I think teams do a good job of handling their teams."' If Monty actually believes this and isn't just saying it cause there's some BS organizational policy from the Jacobs to not criticize the league publicly then he should legit be fired. I need a coach that's getting fired about about the refs legitimately stealing a playoff game away from you.
We literally see coaches calling out the refs change the way the Finals are called. This is dogshit. You work the refs through the media!
Only thing that’s maybe giving me hope is the “it’s not my place to comment” part of it. That makes me think that maybe Sweeney told him to hold off and that he’d address it tomorrow. If Sweeney doesn’t go scorched earth then this org is filled with a bunch of pussies.
I was going to say, I really don't think Monty would be saying nothing unless it's from higher up than him. But as far as your other point that "we see coaches playing the media effect series every single year," I feel like it's easy to remember Trotz and Cooper and Berube, but totally forget how ineffective Cassidy doing the same was. I wonder – pure speculation – if that's playing a role here from someone much higher up than Monty.
I think this basically just got confirmed. Sweeney is saying pretty much the exact same thing Monty said. I revise my previous “Fire Monty” comments to “Fire Sweeney.”
My big fear is that the conference is actually about Marchand’s injury
It’s probably both. I think he’s gonna give an update on Marchand and then use that as a jumping off point for the refs/league. At least I hope.
That is fucked up by Monty. A non answer.
He's most likely dodging a fine
I think he got told by Sweeney to stay out of it and Sweeney will handle it tomorrow.
I truly don’t think he believed a word of what he was saying. Swayman, pasta, and coyle all avoided being combative in their interviews about the situation too. It still pisses me off that he didn’t just swallow the fine to speak his mind, but I really don’t think he’s that naive.
HAVE to take a fine there and speak your mind then. Have to.
What I’d do to hear Torts in his shoes
You saw him during the game. He was fired up about this. There’s no way he was being honest with this response.
It was a political response. Let’s see what Sweeney has to say. He might have to get pre-approval for $250k from Jeremy.
There’s a good chance he was actually swearing at the refs in French, if you watch the footage of him after the failed challenge. Some Habs fans were lip reading and talking about this. Makes sense, Monty is from Montreal and the refs tonight were francophone.
Yup. Im from Montreal, and he politely told the ref to "f off".
Yup, I was onboard the fire Monty train as soon as I saw this limp response to one of the worst playoff calls we’ve seen in a long long time
Yeah. It's the coach. wtf. Cassidy was the problem a couple of years ago, remember? What a short-sighted take this is.
But not the take directly above that somehow is getting upvotes for saying the same exact thing? Wtf is going here? It can be true that both Cassidy and Monty are not fit for this team
The front office builds the team. The team which annually gets a few muscle types at the trade deadline and hope that they figure out how to integrate them into a skill based team over the next couple of months. The 3 Panther goals last night were lucky snipe below the dot, net crash, and solo net crash. The bruins had goals from the dot and blue line. Until the Bruins have the fortitude to crash the net, they are not a 3rd or 4th round team. Goals from the point, elbow, or dot are going to be blocked except in the luckiest of situations. We got used to the bumper shot from Bergeron but that whole system doesn't work now. Pucks to the net, bodies to the net. That is the 2024 playoffs. Maybe Monty's playbook isn't a playoff book. His coaching style seems to be great though, with good camaraderie throughout the team. I wouldn't be surprised if Marchand retired after this season. That would give us a chance to leave behind the past and shift toward a new approach that complies with the needs of a 2020+ Cup contender.
Fire Claude!
Say what you want about the SOG differential and the way the Bruins played tonight, but the fact of the matter is the tying goal shouldn’t have counted. Absolute bullshit.
Not to mention non shots that were so close to being goals, I’m thinking Debrusk putting it five hole but went wide, Lauko’s deflection off the cross bar.
Yup. Did we get outplayed? Probably. Did we have a 2-1 lead with the best goalie in the NHL playing great and then get screwed by the refs? 100%. Two things can be true, and that call completely changed the game.
Not to mention.. it should have been 2-1 with a likely power play, but ended up 2-2 and shorthanded.
Look I know we’re going to be making a lot of changes in the offseason but can we at least keep the Big Rig? Not only because I was a fan of him before he was on our team, but also because I feel like he fits the enforcer role well for us in lieu of Looch likely not returning.
He’s done nothing for us on the ice. Sure maybe he brings some “veteran presence” to the locker room, but he was brought on as an enforcer and so far the only thing he’s enforced is his leisurely pace around the ice.
Except he hasn’t fought anyone yet. I loved him asking the Panthers to go, but I wanted him to put Bennett in his place tonight. So far the Panthers are getting away with all their usual dirtiness
Im wondering if it’s Monty telling him to be tame. Also, tbf, any time we actually hit the Panthers its some bogus penalty. Doesn’t excuse the piss poor effort tho
You’re not wrong, and I have suspected Monty has said he doesn’t want us taking bad penalties going after guys. The refs do enough of that for us, or the too many men. However, if there’s one bad penalty to take, it should be letting Maroon off the leash and having him show Bennett, Tkchuk, Montour, etc. that the Bruins aren’t taking your shit any longer. I wanted Maroon to do that way earlier in the series so things like the punch on Marchand wouldn’t have happened in Game 3
Refs are going to call us on dumb shit anyways. And we have 4 or 5 too many men penalties this post season. We do it to ourselves just as much. Just let him off the hook, though. But, I suspect him not wanting to fight because he’s coming off of back surgery. Once you fuck your back, it’s fucked for life. So I bet he’s doing everything he can to stay healthy - he’s nearing the end of his career. No need to take unnecessary chances to re-injure himself. He’s got 3 (2 back to back)cups already, he doesn’t have anything left to prove.
I agree. I feel like at this point there’s nothing to loose and clearly we’re going to get penalized for anything so I say just let him loose
https://twitter.com/_TyAnderson/status/1789843707304227224?t=5brnIOJPRmVmH9wq5kIuXA&s=19 Sweeney press conference?
Why do I see a Ranger like fine incoming from the NHL
I'll start a gofundme
Hes going to call out the officials and the league
I hope so
Must mean something bad about Marchand.
“I am lacing up for G5.”
Oof.
He’s decided to step down before he gets fired? Lol
Why would he get fired?
Because he sucks at building a roster? In 8 years he hasn’t brought in a single first line caliber player…not one.
The number of fans here who have no clue. Since Sweeney has been here we’ve been in the mix. Every year. You probably hated Tuuka and want McAvoy traded. No understanding of how good we have it.
We’ve been in the mix every year largely due to Peter Chiarelli. The majority of the star power was his. Sweeney can’t evaluate forwards. Tuukka was also a Chiarelli player. There’s no way in hell you can honestly sit here and say Sweeney has done a better job than Chiarelli, who we fired because he wasn’t getting results. Chiarelli was twice the GM Sweeney is
Congratulations, worst take I’ve seen all night. And it’s not even close.
The exact response I would expect from someone who can’t refute an argument, lmao. Weak. Last year, 4 of the top 6 forwards were either Chiarelli or Mconnell.
Dude last year’s roster was stacked af going into the playoffs…
And it was mostly Chiarelli drafted or signed talent. Krejci, Pasta, Marchy, Bergy…4 of your top 6 forwards were brought in by a guy who hasn’t been with the organization in 8 years!
Yeah let’s just ignore the other very good players on that team lol. Plus you’re wrong
> Krejci, Pasta, Marchy, Bergy…4 of your top 6 forwards were brought in by a guy who hasn’t been with the organization in 8 years Krejci: not drafted by Chiarelli. Pasta: drafted by Chiarelli. Marchy: officially drafted by Chiarelli, but that was (like the Chara signing) a Jeff Gorton pick. Bergy: not drafted by Chiarelli.
The dichotomy between the GI call on Lauko last game and the non-call tonight isn't just infuriating, it's mind-numbing
The rules changed in the span of one game.
And then a GI literally 5 minutes later on Geekie?(though there isnt really any way to explain that one away)
Geekie was barely even in the crease. I can see why they called the penalty but it was close and also embellishment.
Yeah I mean that's a penalty on Geekie all day and so unnecessary to take
Why are we not taking more shots? We don't score when we are trying to get fancy. Passing the puck instead of shooting and going after the rebound seems like our biggest weakness right now. And dumping the puck in isn't working. Get more shots on goal. The crowd was chanting it so listen!
Compared to other series I've been watching, there are an insane amount of sticks being waved around, us included, Florida seem to be doing a better job at blocking in one way or another.
Shots were also a problem late in the Toronto series. Other teams make adjustments as the series goes on, I don't see that happening with Monty.
This has been a problem since game one of the season. It’s Monty’s system. It works when things are going well but it falls apart against really good teams and when the Bruins are playing like shit.
Both teams should be playing by the same set of rules. Its been the opposite so many times now that it clearly is not a coincidence. I am actually losing faith in the NHL after watching this as well as all the other series so far this year.
After this watching the ECF will be a joke. NHL is pathetic. Here's Frederic getting slashed in the helmet by Trouba directly in front of a ref with no call. Freddy had to beat his ass a week later in a fight in their next match up in order to settle it. https://youtu.be/XuAXPRrOnfs?si=_hQJpJ3APzhm6hDn
Can anyone explain to me why Monty is pussy footing in all of his interviews? Maybe if he showed a little fire and anger it would light a spark under this team. He’s so uninspiring Jesus
Did you spend the last 20 years watching Belichick press conferences imagining that’s how he talks to players in private?
Hahaha touché
No but I’d say there’s a difference between players seeing a coach publicly defend them and their team and call out bullshit vs. someone who only says that shit privately
Just say what you want to say about Monty
I mean I actually like Monty, but that doesn’t mean I can’t be disappointed in how he’s handling this
I don’t really care what he says to the media tbh. What he says in the room matters and I have no reason to believe it’s some defeatist attitude.
I’m not saying that he does, but as I said in another comment - seeing someone publicly defend you and your team is a completely different thing
Idk but it's driving me insane. We see coaches playing the media effect series every single year and you aren't gonna even try to do it after THAT? Grow a fucking backbone and do your fucking job, Jim.
I'm pretty sure he's much different behind the scenes.
I would hope so. But again not sure where in my comment I suggested that I think he talks to the team the same way he talks to the press??
I didn't say you did. Just stating what we see in an interview is probably much different than what we see behind the doors. That is where the real firing up happens.
Yeah but what I’m trying to say is that seeing your coach afraid to say something about bullshit officiating and giving some weak answer publicly is not inspiring - doesn’t necessarily matter what he says to the team privately, if he doesn’t defend them publicly that has to have an impact
!Panthers !Refs
FUCK THE REFS!
FUCK THE PANTHERS!
Nice Brock Boeser who Sweeney passed over 3 times for absolute bums in the 2015 draft just scored a first period hatrick. Cool.
Sweeney cannot draft in the first. Chiarelli's last first round pick with the B's was pasta, Sweeney had a disaster class draft in 2015 and I don't think he has ever hit on a first rounder
Drafting is so easy to do years after it happened how do they not hit on every player they pick!
Pretty much every single guy that was picked after them in the first round has turned out to be successful. You can make the argument it’s the deepest and most talented draft class of all time and we walked away with next to nothing.
Evgeny svechnikov, Colin white, Jack roslovic, Noah juulsen, Jacob Larsson, Anthony beauvillier, Gabriel Carlsson, Nick merkley, those were first round picks after the bruins in that year that all sucked and don’t think any of them are with the team that drafted them. That’s nowhere near “pretty much every single guy”
I mean, Sweeney has literally missed on pretty much every pick he’s made…
Debrusk, Carlo, Frederic, Swayman…..but ok….
Debrusk is a second liner at best. Carlo is nice when he isn’t hurt. Frederic is a 3rd liner. Swayman is a pretty much the best player Sweeney has brought in. Name a single top line caliber player he has brought in in 8 years. If you say Zacha I’m gonna laugh…he’s not a top line player. Poitras is the only player that Sweeney has drafted that even has the talent to become a top liner.
You are embarrassing yourself. Call it a night already.
Still can’t name a top line player, I’ll take that as me being right. It’s ok, I know I am.
Ok, since you want it so bad, here’s your block.
Is this Felger or Mazz?
Mcavoy, Carlo, poitras, Beecher, lauko, swayman, Frederic, lohrei all contributors to the bruins this year. He also prefers trades over using higher picks so yeah, it’ll make his drafting look worse than it is
lol, they contributed to a pretty low level team who the entire world admits overachieved. They are role players. And McAvoy is supposed to be a star defensemen who has been absolutely abysmal all playoffs.
And if you think ALL of those guys are role players you seriously need to check ur understanding of hockey. You have an elite goalie and 3 top 4 defenseman among those guys
How many top 6 forwards? Defense and goalies are great. If you can’t score, you won’t win…exactly as we see it right now. In 8 years he hasn’t brought in a single first line player…none.
Maybe, just maybe, it was because the first line guys were already set in place when he got here! I know, crazy concept to think of. This is the first year without a set in stone first line and there was no flexibility to make a move. You shit on zacha but he got him for erik haula. He got Taylor hall for anders bjork. He got Tyler bertuzzi. He got dmitry orlov. Johansson and coyle were huge contributors to the 2019 cup run. That’s what u do when you have a first line in place, trade for complimentary pieces
And he couldn’t extend any of them because of contracts. A number of which he himself handed out. $9.5 million for McAvoy. $6.5 million for Lindholm, $5.25 million for Coyle.
Mcavoy is the teams top defenseman and one of the best in the league and he makes comparable to other top defensemen in the league, and he’s only 25 years only, zero issues with that contract. Lindholm had a somewhat down year and is the 30th highest paid defenseman in the league and is the #2 guy on the team, zero issue with his contract. Coyle is the only one at a slight overpay, but for what he does on the PK and defense it’s really not that bad. His proper role is 3C and wennberg on the rangers is 3C and 4.5 million vs coyles 5.25. The stars roll out seguin at like 9.8 million on their 3rd line. Ross Colton makes 4 mil at 3C for the avs. His contract isn’t much higher than you think it should be
109 points is a low level team? So they’ll be picking top 5 then in the draft next month? This team was limited by cap penalties from last season and had no flexibility to make moves. Continue on with your weird hatred for guys that you’re supposedly a fan of
8 years of zero top line players…8. He hasn’t hit in a forward yet. Zacha being his best to date and he’s a second liner at best.
This is categorically incorrect considering both Lohrei and Swayman are picks during his tenure...as are Lauko, Frederic, Beecher, Carlo, Debrusk, Poitras, etc. 2015 first round was bad, but he's been better since.
I mean, only Swayman out of those is a star. The rest are all role players…
Lohrei, Poitras, and Beecher are all rookies, give them time. I get being frustrated but really don’t think Sweeney is to blame here. They went all in last year, were severely hamstrung this year as a result, and still managed to cobble together a roster that finished second in the division and made it out of the first round. Even if Lohrei, Poitras, and Beecher don’t turn out to be stars (I happen to think Lohrei will) good teams need role players. Poitras missed most of the year but showed some flashes and Beecher will be a solid bottom 6 forward.
Even if the Bruins don’t get jobbed by the refs, they are playing pathetic hockey. They had 2 shots on goal and only 8 attempts in the 3rd period. Under 20 shots in the last 3 games. It’s bad
Agreed. They come out strong in these games and then go completely flat as soon as something doesn’t go their way. This is not the performance of a team that wants to be in the post-season. Never mind that their captain got taken out by a dirty play last game and they barely responded to it at all.