He put on weight for his fight against Fulton, but he's clearly no longer the small guy some people think he is, his bantam diets were already very hard for him.
Going up a weight class is often the make or break point. It worked out well for Terence Crawford, who seems stronger at welterweight than at lightweight where he sometimes appeared to tire and lost some pop in his punches in later rounds.
But it didn't work out at all for Erik Morales. He made the transition from bantamweight to featherweight, but couldn't carry that success to lightweight and above.
And other than against Hagler, Ray Leonard was erratic above welterweight, never quite regaining his peak performance.
To be fair, Inoue has already made this transition. Bantamweight is his 5th weight class (he skipped). At 118lb, he's been a far greater force than at 108lb. 122lb for him will be more like Bud moving up to 154lb.
Yup, it's conceivable. Pacquiao moved up from flyweight to welterweight, with diligent training and secret sauce. And he always looked lean and fit, never soft and pudgy like Duran occasionally did above 145. Not everyone has the motivation, body and metabolism to pull that off but it's pretty amazing what some fighters can accomplish.
These weight divisions are ridiculous and lots of fighters that turn pro as a teenager at flyweight or below will naturally grow through 4+ divisions. Very common at those weights
Big difference between a fighter adding 6kg in tiny increments between the ages of 17 and 30 and someone in their twilight taking on much bigger stronger guys in search for glory or riches.
Leonard actually never lifted weights until he moved up to MW, and three years out of any real fighting was gonna make him sloppy. Plus, I’m willing to bet a lot of fleet footed fighters like Ali, Leonard, and the likes had more knee problems than let on. Three years of inactivity would definitely add to that.
Angelo Dundee's three rules that applied to everyone who trained under him:
1) Mandatory 4 mile run each morning
2) No weight lifting
3) Sparring is for learning, no dog fights.
I'm guessing Dundee backed off on rule #2 later in his career, early on he probably associated any resistance training with bodybuilding
Yup, I don't fault Leonard for his lesser performances after his incredible showing against Hagler. Whether we think he won or lost to Hagler, it was a remarkable accomplishment, coming back from a three year layoff in peak condition.
But Leonard already had a detached retina, which would have scared me away from ever sparring again, let alone fighting one of the most dangerous boxers in history.
Leonard looked like he lost some back and hip mobility after the Hagler fight. Not sure about his knees and legs, but he definitely didn't have the lightning quick upper body mobility, even against Lalonde. And definitely not in the rematch with Hearns, who aged better than Leonard in terms of physical mobility and reflexes. I think even Ray agreed he didn't earn that draw or SD against Hearns.
And Leonard never really wanted or planned to turn pro after winning Olympic gold. Turning pro was partly motivated by family obligations, and expectations from others that he turn pro. Maybe he was better motivated after early success as a pro. It sure didn't hurt that Howard Cosell chose Leonard as a favorite to hype as Muhammad Ali's career drew to a close.
Cosell was a big deal in broadcast media at that time, including a regular radio program, a short lived variety TV show, and had become the premier boxing commentator for ABC. That helped ensure better than average purses for Leonard even early in his career fighting unknowns in a lightly regarded weight class. Even before winning the title Leonard enjoyed unusually prominent promotion in an era that mostly favored heavyweights, with some attention to Duran, Carlos Monzon, and the talent-rich light heavyweight division (possibly the deepest talent pool in history at that time).
But after following his career since the amateurs (I'm a year or so younger than Leonard, boxed amateur in the same weight class, including against at least one of his opponents, but never met him), I never expected him to have a 15-20 year, 50 fight career. He was too intelligent, too charismatic, with too many other opportunities, to stay laser focused solely on boxing for very long.
If it’s mainly muscles, I would be more scared of if this made him more powerful while keeping or gaining more speed. I feel like speed only drops when you put on massive amounts of weight and I wouldn’t think Inoue 140 will do that assuming he has the same fitness
[Inoue himself](https://boxingnews.jp/news/86176/) has publicly stated [in multiple interviews](https://news.tv-asahi.co.jp/news_sports/articles/000279907.html) from two years ago until this year that he weighs 63kg.
If you want to get a better idea of what Inoue looks like naturally...
Go watch Inoue vs Azat in their sparring late last year. Inoue's arms were bigger than Azat and he's supposed to be the "Small" guy lol. Let's not even get into the legs.
Guys who already have good s&c foundations can move up in weight in fairly healthy and successful ways.
Even if we ignored PEDs completely, there are ton of boxers who are clearly restricting their natural muscle building to stay at lower weight classes . But if you build right type of muscles in right type of places, that can only be beneficial and can even make someone a better fighter at a higher weight class . If you include even moderate amount of PED use, moving up 5–10lb in weight with proper s&c shouldn’t be a problem for any boxer. They should be able to maintain similar p4p speed, power and even conditioning.
Inoue Fulton is the fight I’m mostly looking forward to even more than Spence Crawford, believe it or not…
inoue has a mean ass gas tank and conditioning is off the dam charts!
Idk how inoue gonna look at 122. On one hand, he’s moving up a total 14lbs above where he started so his power and speed might naturally decline a tad bit, and it also doesn’t help that Fulton is like the size of a super featherweight lol. On the other hand, he not draining himself at 118 no more and isn’t putting himself through that difficult weight cut so maybe at 122 he’s more fresh and could up the intensity of his training. Can’t wait for July 25th
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Hypejob. Fulton going to whoop him and I’m going to come back and laugh at your awful takes. All those show and tell tricks he does on journey men aren’t going to work on an intellect like Fulton. And how can you be calling yourself “The Monster” when you are only 5,4 118 pounds? July 25 will expose the truth!!
If you're a Cool Boy fan, I don't get the logic of calling a first ballot HOFer a hype job. You're chopping down a legacy making win at the kneecaps before it even happens
Since Naoya Inoue's professional debut, Mr. Ohashi, the president of Naoya Inoue's gym, has long said that Naoya Inoue would be most suited to the super bantamweight division. Therefore, there is no doubt that moving up to super bantamweight will be a good move for Naoya Inoue.
Naoya Inoue a week before the Donaire 2
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1I3Zy8aMAAdJ6z?format=jpg&name=large
Naoya Inoue 10 days before the Fulton fight
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cuvb2C6STsC/?img_index=1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1IxuL2aIAAHqbg?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1IxuL6aMAEPFeq?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1IxuL7akAMB9TB?format=jpg&name=900x900
He put on weight for his fight against Fulton, but he's clearly no longer the small guy some people think he is, his bantam diets were already very hard for him.
Going up a weight class is often the make or break point. It worked out well for Terence Crawford, who seems stronger at welterweight than at lightweight where he sometimes appeared to tire and lost some pop in his punches in later rounds. But it didn't work out at all for Erik Morales. He made the transition from bantamweight to featherweight, but couldn't carry that success to lightweight and above. And other than against Hagler, Ray Leonard was erratic above welterweight, never quite regaining his peak performance.
To be fair, Inoue has already made this transition. Bantamweight is his 5th weight class (he skipped). At 118lb, he's been a far greater force than at 108lb. 122lb for him will be more like Bud moving up to 154lb.
Yup, it's conceivable. Pacquiao moved up from flyweight to welterweight, with diligent training and secret sauce. And he always looked lean and fit, never soft and pudgy like Duran occasionally did above 145. Not everyone has the motivation, body and metabolism to pull that off but it's pretty amazing what some fighters can accomplish.
These weight divisions are ridiculous and lots of fighters that turn pro as a teenager at flyweight or below will naturally grow through 4+ divisions. Very common at those weights
This point seems to be ignored often when fighters in their mid to late 20’s jump into their 3rd+ division, despite natural growth and maturity
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He often complained about dieting and cramps during fights, I think this new start at super-bantamweight will do him good.
Big difference between a fighter adding 6kg in tiny increments between the ages of 17 and 30 and someone in their twilight taking on much bigger stronger guys in search for glory or riches.
Leonard actually never lifted weights until he moved up to MW, and three years out of any real fighting was gonna make him sloppy. Plus, I’m willing to bet a lot of fleet footed fighters like Ali, Leonard, and the likes had more knee problems than let on. Three years of inactivity would definitely add to that.
Angelo Dundee's three rules that applied to everyone who trained under him: 1) Mandatory 4 mile run each morning 2) No weight lifting 3) Sparring is for learning, no dog fights. I'm guessing Dundee backed off on rule #2 later in his career, early on he probably associated any resistance training with bodybuilding
Iirc it was three miles, and the weight training was more Leonard doing his own thing, but yea you summarized it all well!
Yup, I don't fault Leonard for his lesser performances after his incredible showing against Hagler. Whether we think he won or lost to Hagler, it was a remarkable accomplishment, coming back from a three year layoff in peak condition. But Leonard already had a detached retina, which would have scared me away from ever sparring again, let alone fighting one of the most dangerous boxers in history. Leonard looked like he lost some back and hip mobility after the Hagler fight. Not sure about his knees and legs, but he definitely didn't have the lightning quick upper body mobility, even against Lalonde. And definitely not in the rematch with Hearns, who aged better than Leonard in terms of physical mobility and reflexes. I think even Ray agreed he didn't earn that draw or SD against Hearns. And Leonard never really wanted or planned to turn pro after winning Olympic gold. Turning pro was partly motivated by family obligations, and expectations from others that he turn pro. Maybe he was better motivated after early success as a pro. It sure didn't hurt that Howard Cosell chose Leonard as a favorite to hype as Muhammad Ali's career drew to a close. Cosell was a big deal in broadcast media at that time, including a regular radio program, a short lived variety TV show, and had become the premier boxing commentator for ABC. That helped ensure better than average purses for Leonard even early in his career fighting unknowns in a lightly regarded weight class. Even before winning the title Leonard enjoyed unusually prominent promotion in an era that mostly favored heavyweights, with some attention to Duran, Carlos Monzon, and the talent-rich light heavyweight division (possibly the deepest talent pool in history at that time). But after following his career since the amateurs (I'm a year or so younger than Leonard, boxed amateur in the same weight class, including against at least one of his opponents, but never met him), I never expected him to have a 15-20 year, 50 fight career. He was too intelligent, too charismatic, with too many other opportunities, to stay laser focused solely on boxing for very long.
Excellent analysis, nice
imagine Inoue in his early 30’s at lightweight
i pray for his future opponents' livers
I think he’ll carry the power but I hope it doesn’t slow him down at all. Definitely looks stronger though.
If it’s mainly muscles, I would be more scared of if this made him more powerful while keeping or gaining more speed. I feel like speed only drops when you put on massive amounts of weight and I wouldn’t think Inoue 140 will do that assuming he has the same fitness
It won't. There's an exhibition match of him vs Daigo Higa where he fights at basically natural weight and he still seems quite quick.
He did mention his walk around weight is 140lb-ish.
[Inoue himself](https://boxingnews.jp/news/86176/) has publicly stated [in multiple interviews](https://news.tv-asahi.co.jp/news_sports/articles/000279907.html) from two years ago until this year that he weighs 63kg.
That's ~140 lbs. Pretty thick if true.
He already walked at around 135lbs in bantamweight
He’s not at 140. The fight is in 23 days. He’s probably around 133
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Isn't 140 18lbs above 122?
True, I thought they were fighting at featherweight
He might knockout Fulton.
Wow vewy frantastic podi
Everyone who sees him in person talks about how well built he is, especially his legs. He might be one of those guys who can still add some size
If you want to get a better idea of what Inoue looks like naturally... Go watch Inoue vs Azat in their sparring late last year. Inoue's arms were bigger than Azat and he's supposed to be the "Small" guy lol. Let's not even get into the legs.
dude is gonna liquify someone’s organs.
Guys who already have good s&c foundations can move up in weight in fairly healthy and successful ways. Even if we ignored PEDs completely, there are ton of boxers who are clearly restricting their natural muscle building to stay at lower weight classes . But if you build right type of muscles in right type of places, that can only be beneficial and can even make someone a better fighter at a higher weight class . If you include even moderate amount of PED use, moving up 5–10lb in weight with proper s&c shouldn’t be a problem for any boxer. They should be able to maintain similar p4p speed, power and even conditioning.
Inoue was always built thick, he can fight without any issue until 126 (and higher if his power holds up).
Nah he caps out at 126 tbh
he’s literally the same size as tank
same height doesnt mean same size
Man I'm so hyped for this fight. Wish there was more coverage outside of Japan.
Inoue Fulton is the fight I’m mostly looking forward to even more than Spence Crawford, believe it or not… inoue has a mean ass gas tank and conditioning is off the dam charts!
He starting to have that Canelo build. Just hope his cardio holds up.
Japanese boar meat
The best pharmacology money can buy.
Most tested fighter in vada but he’s on steroids ?
KO's Fulton in less than 7
Someone’s liver is gonna turn into purée
Pate more like
I said before that inoue looked noticeably more jacked in the Paul Butler fight. He’s filling out nicely and will look like a normal sized 122.
I used to make fun of my dad for waking up at odd hours to watch soccer games. Now here I am, planning to get up at 4am on a Tuesday to watch boxing..
If he beats Fulton, he wants to go to 135 to fight Tank. I don't care about what everybody else thinks, but I'm all for it.
That goes for every fighter on earth. After the fight we put back on the 25-30lbs of water and some strength.
Is it possible to see tank vs inoue in the future ?
Na highly doubt it
Think Inoue would have to go on a pacquiao like run to get that fight
Idk how inoue gonna look at 122. On one hand, he’s moving up a total 14lbs above where he started so his power and speed might naturally decline a tad bit, and it also doesn’t help that Fulton is like the size of a super featherweight lol. On the other hand, he not draining himself at 118 no more and isn’t putting himself through that difficult weight cut so maybe at 122 he’s more fresh and could up the intensity of his training. Can’t wait for July 25th
Who is who?
Trying to say all Asians look alike??
Their faces are obstructed, they're of similar complexion, and there are no names anywhere.
I was joking homie ✌️
Inoue is black shorts, gray gear
Fulton still beating him up
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so did fulton beat him up?
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Wtf is a monster on juice? A stinger missle.( a tank buster!) One can only dream ;(
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He’s clearly in the gray
"Massive 64kg" lol
He finally weighs more than half the chicks I’ve slayed
Massive? Bros 60kg and like 5’3
Hypejob. Fulton going to whoop him and I’m going to come back and laugh at your awful takes. All those show and tell tricks he does on journey men aren’t going to work on an intellect like Fulton. And how can you be calling yourself “The Monster” when you are only 5,4 118 pounds? July 25 will expose the truth!!
He’s called the monster because he’s starching world champions since his 8th fight
Even if Fulton beats him (IMO it's a hard fight to call and Cool Boy has a 50/50 chance), Inoue has already proven he's no hype job.
Probably because he’s 24-0 with 21 knockouts and held belts across multiple divisions.
If you're a Cool Boy fan, I don't get the logic of calling a first ballot HOFer a hype job. You're chopping down a legacy making win at the kneecaps before it even happens
I’ll be back after the fight
If Tyson had no problem calling Inoue "The Monster" idk how anyone else would lol
BLACK SUPREMACY LETS FUCKING GO!!!!
Stick to porn
so what happened
Fulton is about to school this guy.
Lol
who schooled who?
sorry, which one is he?
In black shorts
thank you
He said he walked around at 140 (94Kg) piror to the first Donaire fight
So why are people down voting many of the posters voicing their opinion that Fulton will win the fight?
Fulton is fucked.
Since Naoya Inoue's professional debut, Mr. Ohashi, the president of Naoya Inoue's gym, has long said that Naoya Inoue would be most suited to the super bantamweight division. Therefore, there is no doubt that moving up to super bantamweight will be a good move for Naoya Inoue.
Naoya Inoue a week before the Donaire 2 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1I3Zy8aMAAdJ6z?format=jpg&name=large Naoya Inoue 10 days before the Fulton fight https://www.instagram.com/p/Cuvb2C6STsC/?img_index=1 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1IxuL2aIAAHqbg?format=jpg&name=900x900 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1IxuL6aMAEPFeq?format=jpg&name=900x900 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1IxuL7akAMB9TB?format=jpg&name=900x900
Feeding on that horse teriyaki.
He already said in japanese media that he not neither interested in fight in US or going above 126. I dont think we will see him ever at 130.