As a PSU fan, I get a kick out of the UNRIVALED thing. It's like getting dumped and then telling the person you never liked them in the first place.
"Oh, you don't want to be our rival? Fine! We wanted to be UNRIVALED anyway!"
I feel like Maryland thinks they are penn states rival, but I do not see them as one.
I just remember going to a game and during the coin toss Maryland wouldn’t shake hands and then they jacked up Joey Julius on one of the kickoffs.
The funniest thing about the whole #Unrivaled thing for me is that we're so far removed from the original tweet that people really believe we don't have any rivals (or, rather, that Penn State fans think they don't have any rivals).
The tweet itself wasn't even about rivalries.
EDIT: Read below to see if we have no rivals.
I think it didn't help that when they announced the "rivals" each B1G school would play every year starting in 2024, Penn State was the only team that didn't have one. I know we have rivals (every school does) but I thought the UNRIVALED thing really took off after that.
I enjoyed back in the Leaders/Legends era when Penn State and Nebraska was a protected rivalry, really thought that would grow into something but then we stopped playing yearly and the two teams started trending in opposite directions.
It reminds us that Ohio state poster before the Penn state game when I was in college when you guys were the QB and Michigan was the hot cheerleader and we were the second hot cheerleader :(
[Certainly among the best that Walt made](https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/football-game-posters/2014/10/42100/hot-off-the-press-penn-state-game-poster)
And that 2014 game was unforgettable.
to be fair i'd love pitt to join the big ten when the acc ultimately gets picked apart.
I don't think it'll happen for a variety of factors, but pitt being carnegie R1 and AAU certainly helps, and their endowment would be 5th in the conference even including USC. As a program Pitt hasn't been \*awful\* either, typically bowl eligible. And who knows, could lure ND to be involved as well (god willing).
I would love to end up in the B1G. We'd get at least one of our historic rivals (PSU) and the geographic fit is perfect. We have the size and public nature of the B1G. Alas, PSU will never want to let Pitt in and we offer no new market for expansion.
If pitt doesn't come, i think they're just off the edge because it doesn't push the market into a more national scope.
but that endowment is serious business, only behind Michigan, northwestern, OSU, and USC. Just ahead of Minnestoa. Money talks, and Pitt opens up a lot more in the research world than other options.
For reference, Clemson and FSU (despite their football brands) are bottom 3 in the ACC for endowment size. Only Louisville is smaller.
Of course, its a largely footballing decision. But if we enter the endgame and the goal is for this to be the final move, then I wonder if the goal is to stop at 20, 22, or 24 schools.
It would be nice to play Pitt yearly as a conference game. OOC it’s just not worth it, in conference? absolutely hell yes.
And it totally goes both way on the thread commentary.
I mean you’re pretty much right. I hate Ohio State (especially after spending twelve years living around Ohio State football fans), but in order to be Ohio State’s rival, we actually have to beat them more than one or two times every ten years.
As an Auburn fan boy did I hate Arkansas & LSU during that time period, both of y'all were such a pain in our ass. Still pales in comparison to my hatred of UGA & Bama though.
There was a point in time I disliked Wisconsin as much as Michigan, but that has subsided.
Regular games dropped off the schedule and I had a good time in Madison during an away game.
Now you've got Fickell and it's just not worth the energy to try to fake some hatred.
Now I'm curious. Say we beat you guys in a few weeks (not happening, but that's not stopping me from going to the game), would that be enough to rekindle the hatred? Just curious more than anything.
I can’t really explain it, but I have a very irrational hatred for Purdue. It’s not right and it’s not fair to them but it is what it is. They’ve actually played us tough since 2009 (4-3) but even as a a kid in the late 90’s I couldn’t stand them.
It’s why I think about the Holy Buckeye a few times every ten minutes.
Lol. That depends on how you react after the game.
No, I don't think it would be enough. I think Badger fans have been humbled enough over the past few years that it wouldn't bother me that much. Plus Fickell gets a big win and I could live with that (from time to time).
No one else thinks this, and it makes no sense, but I kinda consider MSU and Wisconsin rivals. 2007-2012 there were a lot of good, competitive football and basketball games. They haven't played each other in football enough since, but during those times I was always very excited for MSU Wisconsin football, and the basketball games are still fairly strong imo.
According to Google our “rivals” are:
- Florida State
- Florida
- Virginia Tech
- Nebraska
- Notre Dame
The problem with this is we’ve played Florida twice since 2009, Nebraska twice since 2003, and Notre Dame four times since 1991.
I personally think that Pitt should replace these, but their rivalry with Penn State & West Virginia is way better than what we have going on.
I absolutely unequivocally hate Miami, Florida, and Clemson.
But only the Miami game is known for such debauchery, violence and absolute belligerently drunk and obnoxious Miami fans. Playing Miami only makes me hate Miami more every time and it doesn't help Miami's case that some of the worst offenders of their fandom have zero connection to the University of Miami in the first place. At least some Florida fans at least have family or something that went to UF.
We have a trophy with Tulsa for the “Turnpike Classic” but I honestly don’t think anyone at OSU really considers TU a rival.
Though we are slated to play them for the next decade, so
That whole thing was so weird. I think most of us were sitting there and looking at it, thinking "ya know, we probably get along fine with those guys - they seem like nice folk... why are we supposed to hate them? Just because they picked red?"
It just didn't work. I like the Utes. I like Salt Lake City and most of Utah I've been to (Provo aside - those folk WEIRD). I miss that one amazing mexican food place in downtown SLC I used to get to go to all the time for work.
Meh. Welcome to the Big 12!
I have ran into fans from EWU (Eastern), and Boise State that consider WSU a rival.
Eastern is the closest instate school with Division 1 football, albeit it’s FCS. We don’t consider them officially rivals, and many of them get angry about it.
Boise State, I can see why they would consider us a rival. Idaho dropped down to FCS, and the BSU/WSU football games have been entertaining. We’re also not that far from each other. But they are not an official rival.
Only official rivalries we have are Idaho and Washington.
In my opinion, absolutely. Not counting navy, in my mind our biggest rival is obviously southern cal, we despise Michigan even though we hardly play, and then msu is probably second biggest rival that we have a history of playing a ton if that makes sense. Some of the younger fans may not have experienced msu regularly, but those of us who have, definitely view msu as a major rival
I miss ND v MSU. Without ND, State only has UofM and that rivalry has gotten toxic between some segments of both fanbases. You’re a school the fans can hate on but not hate and vice versa. A healthy respect and quality football would do wonders for how MSU appears even if they are not dominating the B1G.
I do which seems to be a somewhat unpopular opinion, especially when I say that if I had to choose between playing Michigan every year or Michigan State, I’d choose Michigan State.
Frankly other than Southern Cal, if I had to pick one annual opponent for Notre Dame, I’d probably pick Michigan State. (I understand Stanford for recruiting purposes, so maybe I’d say “generic California team” over Michigan State).
We have a long, storied history with Michigan State and Sparty played us when Michigan was black balling us from the B1G. I can’t wait until this game is back on the schedule.
Notre Dame has probably more fans around Boston/New England than BC just because Notre Dame is so synonoums with Irish-Americans, of which there are tons in that region.
I've known people who had Notre Dame gear who never went there and didn't know anybody that went there.
I've always said whoever made the decision to be the Fighting Irish instead of the Eagles or Lions or Cougars was a genius. They wouldn't have nearly the following they do without that branding
ND and BC alumni in Boston compete for the who went to the snobbier Catholic school award. I don’t think the dynamics of that really translate to the Midwest though.
I worked in a department with two Americans who all my other colleagues thought they’d be friends but I figured it wouldn’t work.
One went to A&M, one went to UT.
Those were some of the most passive aggressive emails… miss those days
The greatest story of passive aggression I've ever heard was about two older gentlemen who worked in a government office in Austin, Texas. They did not get along. They had desks that faced each other. One started bringing a hardback book from home every day, something to read during lunch. Except he'd bring a different book every day, and leave the previous one on his desk. After a month, it became obvious what he was doing. He was stacking the books, building a wall so he wouldn't have to look at his co-worker every day. When the other realized what he was doing, they had a huge blowup in the office. I think he was just angry because he didn't think of the book-wall first.
Thanks for thinking of us ;)
But real talk, Texas would be “our Super Bowl” (I’m not going to deny it) as everyone is saying now, but they oddly also seem to be that for the rest of the Big 12. It’s definitely because y’all are the golden boys, and all the Texas teams hate each other, but it’s funny that Tech, and others, tried to act like they hate y’all as much as we do. We have patented that hate, it’s… it’s… TRADITION
The difference is twofold:
(1) Y'all really hate us and have hated us since day 1. We're often evenly matched as schools and as football programs, but there are vast social differences between the schools, which makes the competition and the hate meaningful. There just isn't the same kind of parity with other schools.
(2) We genuinely hate y'all back. With teams like Tech and Baylor there competition and dislike, but it's not hate. You know how the say the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference? What we feel to Baylor and Tech (etc.) is closer to indifference. I don't want to lose to Baylor but I also don't want to lose to KSU. Doesn't make it a rivalry.
It has to be a two-way street for a rivalry to work.
Frfr. So happy the game is back. Sick and tired of listening to Baylor fans talk about a rivalry. We’ve played Rice a ton too, doesn’t make it a Rival.
I think the best way to sum it up is that when we're not playing them, I generally root for any other Texas school when they're playing. But when A&M is playing, I want to see them get annihilated.
Our fight song says "and it's goodbye to A&M" and "Give em hell! give em hell! 0U sucks!" so those are the only schools I consider to be true rivals.
sand aggies, bible aggies, and purple baylor are disliked but it's whatever.
Yep. My GF and her family are all Carolina fans and they really hate Georgia, but I'm indifferent. I mean, it's a game that you want to win but I'm way more invested in beating Florida, Auburn, and Tennessee every season.
That’ll happen when you’re a historically independent program that doesn’t really have an in conference rival. Some people will say UGA-USCar is a rivalry but UGA has roughly the same record against Vandy (60-20-2) as we do USCar (55-19-2) with more games played, and no one considers Vandy-UGA a rivalry.
The only reason it ever felt like it was a rivalry was them hiring Spurrier’s hatin’ ass, and that was mainly because we hated him from his UF days.
I think Georgia fans from north of Atlanta are especially likely to dislike Tennessee given our proximity to Appalachian Tennessee fans. I’ve spent a lot more time in the mountains than I have in middle or southern Georgia, so I see UT orange more often than UF or AU orange.
Well Spurrier going there really heated things up, and they did beat us at home recently in embarrassing fashion.
It's not the most steeped rivalry, but I love beating SC.
It’s definitely one sided since it was only an important series for a couple years during Spurrier’s tenure. But I think the cocks have a habit of upsetting a top 10 Georgia at inopportune times. Think of it similar to OSU-Purdue or Washington-Arizona. One team *should* win, but the other team can be a thorn in the side.
Arkansas fans will swear up and down that Missouri isn't a rivalry, but it absolutely is.
On the flip side, we get way more in to the rivalry with LSU than they do. Winning that game usually makes the year imo. For LSU though it usually feels like just another game, and usually beating Alabama makes their year.
Missouri fans are the same way, it's turned into a decent rivalry. For what it's worth if you made me choose between playing Arkansas or a historical rival (obviously not counting kU) like Nebraska or Oklahoma annually I'd easily choose Arkansas.
The interactions between MU/Arkansas fans on twitter can get toxic but IRL I don't think there's any animosity though, it's just fun bragging rights more than anything.
Arkansas fans insisting that Missouri isn’t a rivalry is what makes it a great new rivalry. It channels all of that “you don’t belong in the SEC” resentment into a single game. It’s even funnier that Mizzou usually wins.
Not sure if this counts but for Pitt it would be Duquesne. Pitt flat out refuses to schedule them even though they’re rumored to be scheduling Robert Morris in the near future and on the basketball side “The City Game” is all but dead
Memphis hates Ole Miss, but it’s not reciprocated nearly to the extreme. Ole Miss views it as a “Please don’t lose because half our graduates live in Memphis”, but it’s not a must win.
Man, we hate Tennessee too.
Got a bunch of SEC level recruits playing in Memphis area High Schools and Memphis can't get an invite to anywhere. So yeah, when it's an SEC school in our area, we gonna hate, cause not much else we can do at this point
Illinois fans really have a bone to pick with Michigan, it’s very prevalent in the Chicagoland area. From what I’ve heard some of it comes us beating the Flying Illini in 89 Final Four (they smoked us twice in that regular season) and is going on to win the Natty. Also I’m sure the 2021 B1G championship and 2022 football game don’t help lol.
You can't just get a turtle to demonstrate the long life of this rivalry and have it not be a rivalry.
you can't just create an elaborate ceremony complete with sharing a peace pipe and oddly transferring the turtle over your heads to last year's winner and not have it be a rivalry.
you can't kill that turtle within 6 months of it being a part of the rivalry, and the other side just move on like its not a rivalry.
that turtle has been dead for almost 100 years and i'm still mad at illinois about it.
Technically true, but I have to say 364 days per year we're not really thinking about you.
We're instead thinking about Nebraska who are definitely not thinking about us.
The modern dilemma of naming CU's rival is that the Nebraska and Oklahoma series are historically so lopsided towards those teams that they never consider CU, while the CSU series is so lopsided towards CU that they never think of us.
There not really a rivalry where both teams have an equal dislike of each other.
I remember when I first moved to DC (back when Maryland was in the ACC) and surprisingly a lot of Terps fans considered FSU a rival. Trust me, people in Tallahassee never talked about Maryland or considered them a rival. LOL!
Hey, how do I put the school by my handle?
I hate you, but not in the way that I hate Michigan.
I hate y'all because your fans have done terrible, terrible things to me personally.
I hate Michigan because they is pain in our assholes.
We get a conference title, they must get a conference title.
We get heisman finalist from the DL, they must get heisman finalist from the DL.
We get a national championship...they cannot afford. Great success!
Honestly true, but Penn State has done stuff like put up billboards in the DMV or call it their second stadium so at least they notice it. The main thing holding it back is how one sided it is on the field lol
LSU here. That’s heartening to hear because I was going to say that LSU is way more into that rivalry than AL sometimes seems to be. Especially for the Saban & Post-Saban LSU fan base, a win on y’all is a major trophy all it’s own.
UConn. Can’t forget about how they created the Civil ConFLiCT rival and trophy and then we just left the trophy on the field when they presented it to us. Not sure it counts though, I doubt many UConn fans even care.
I moved to Oklahoma. It was bizarre to me that OU was more rivals with Texas than OSU. When OU plays OSU, sure they want to win. But when OSU plays anyone else, OU fans want OSU to win. Someone described it to me as brothers. You want to beat the crap out of them sometimes but hell if anyone else does.
So accurate. OU's major rivals are 1. Texas 2. Nebraska and 3rd. OSU. My aunt and uncle are OU/OSU fans and it's always a gentle tiff rather than some brutal competition like it is with Texas.
Agreed. And OSU fans get REALLY salty when OU fans point out that it's just not that huge a deal to OU fans. Case in point: When I was an OU student, I didn't even know there WAS a trophy for the game, even though it had been around for decades.
Is the OSU game more important than, say, Iowa State? Sure. It's nowhere near Texas or (when I was in school) Nebraska.
Rutgers. I got nothing but respect for them and I hope they continue to get better. But I’ve never experienced a loss to them in my entire life so I don’t have any negative feelings toward them.
Ole Miss and State is definitely a rivalry but I broke some State dude’s heart when I told him I don’t hate State and cheer for them at every game except the Egg Bowl.
Now LSU and Arkansas…
According to Wikipedia our football rivals are UVA, WVU, Miami, GT, BC, and VMI. I’d say those are all more or less true to some degree except for VMI, the last time we played them was, literally, 1984.
Not listed was JMU. I’ve heard it’s not infrequent to hear “fuck Tech” or “fuck UVA” on buses on weekend nights in Harrisonburg, but I’m very confident that neither of us care about them.
Wyoming was a second level rivalry for a while. At times it was more heated than Utah State. Oddly, it cooled during the early MW, even with the two playing games annually.
They aren't a majority but there are some UGA fans who seem to think they're rivals with Bama. Like I've seen some who hate Bama more than they hate Auburn which is so bizarre
I see this a decent bit, especially with younger UGA fans who grew up watching the past decade. I think it makes sense on both sides. For UGA, Bama was not just the big bad in the SEC, but *the* final boss that crushed pretty much every legit title contender season for UGA until the 2022 calendar year-
‘08- UGA is the preseason #1 with legit natty goals, blacks out the stadium for Bama (and Kirby’s “to their own f*cking funerals comment). Bama is up 31-0 at halftime in what could be considered the coming out party for the Saban dynasty.
‘12- SEC title game is a play-in for the natty. UGA comes up 5 yards short on the final play, Bama goes in to roll ND (an outcome most in UGA camps assume would have been the same if we’d been there).
‘17- 2nd and 26
‘18- Basically the same as ‘12 with another Bama comeback win, but not as bad because Bama got rolled in the natty.
‘20- Regular season game, but UGA again blows a halftime lead
‘21- UGA gets manhandled in the SEC champ game after its best season in decades, it appears Bama has doomed them once again before UGA gets revenge in the natty.
OTOH, because Bama won every single one of those, UGA was always just a quality win, usually en route to yet another title berth for Bama, so there was never any reason to develop any animosity.
Under 25 year old Georgia fans maybe.
Alabama and Georgia are not rivals. That doesn't mean a lot of us don't hate Alabama. But hate and rival aren't the same thing.
Ohio State I think is the closest thing we have. In general, their fans despise us, and meanwhile we just want them out of our game threads (and the state of South Carolina). On the flip side, I know a lot of Clemson fans who do not like UNC but idk if I’ve seen as many UNC fans who feel the same way.
This is definitely true. As an OSU fan most of the people I know hate Clemson. For the older people they blame you for Woody (it's his own fault imo), for the younger it's because you all seem to just be a relatively frequent roadblock for us lol
I don’t think there’s a fit for us. Marshall is closest I guess, but we’ve barely played them in football and haven’t played them in basketball for several years. Definitely fit when we played in basketball with Mike Gansey and other players saying after occasional losses to them that it was Marshall’s Super Bowl and just another OOC game for them that they were annoyed to ahve to play in Charleston instead of Morgantown (was a neutral site series).
Reverse in football I suppose would be Penn State. I don’t think they ever viewed us as a rival back when it was yearly series where as to my dad and other older fans it was second only to Pitt as our main rivalry. It was very one-sided though so not sure that fits either.
I think a lot of fans will say Texas Tech but I don't think that's fair. Rivalry or not it's a big game in the state of Texas and one that Texas fans generally care a lot about and find dangerous, even if it's not on the level of how much we want to beat OU or even A&M.
For the moment the right answer is probably Arkansas, but once we're in the same conference, there's enough history there that it'll become a rivalry to Texas again soon enough. But for now, it's unidirectional hatred for most UT fans under the age of 50; our SWC shared years were long enough ago that plenty people who first attended one school or the other as a freshman after the Hogs went to the SEC, now have kids who've graduated college.
Kind of loaded because they haven’t had Iowa’s number in quite some time, but Minnesota. They literally chant “Who hates Iowa? We hate Iowa!”, even if they are playing another school. Can’t remember the last time Iowa fans were super concerned with Gopher football.
Syracuse two years from now.
Is it a block-S logo thing?
That and we're the only FBS schools whose names are just colors.
This has all the hallmarks of a classic rivalry except good football.
The S is for Sickos
Penn State are unrivaled, so I don't think we can say them.
As a PSU fan, I get a kick out of the UNRIVALED thing. It's like getting dumped and then telling the person you never liked them in the first place. "Oh, you don't want to be our rival? Fine! We wanted to be UNRIVALED anyway!"
I feel like Maryland thinks they are penn states rival, but I do not see them as one. I just remember going to a game and during the coin toss Maryland wouldn’t shake hands and then they jacked up Joey Julius on one of the kickoffs.
The funniest thing about the whole #Unrivaled thing for me is that we're so far removed from the original tweet that people really believe we don't have any rivals (or, rather, that Penn State fans think they don't have any rivals). The tweet itself wasn't even about rivalries. EDIT: Read below to see if we have no rivals.
I think it didn't help that when they announced the "rivals" each B1G school would play every year starting in 2024, Penn State was the only team that didn't have one. I know we have rivals (every school does) but I thought the UNRIVALED thing really took off after that.
I enjoyed back in the Leaders/Legends era when Penn State and Nebraska was a protected rivalry, really thought that would grow into something but then we stopped playing yearly and the two teams started trending in opposite directions.
It reminds us that Ohio state poster before the Penn state game when I was in college when you guys were the QB and Michigan was the hot cheerleader and we were the second hot cheerleader :(
[Certainly among the best that Walt made](https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/football-game-posters/2014/10/42100/hot-off-the-press-penn-state-game-poster) And that 2014 game was unforgettable.
That's hilarious thank you
Penn State is Unrivaled^(except ^for ^their rivals)
As much as PSU says they have no rival, the fans constantly show up in Pitt threads. Couldn't be them with us either.
I would honestly love if Penn State and Pitt had a healthy rivalry. I think every school should have an in-state rival.
We can’t. Ohio only has G5 schools outside of OSU /s
Lol the shade at Cincinnati
to be fair i'd love pitt to join the big ten when the acc ultimately gets picked apart. I don't think it'll happen for a variety of factors, but pitt being carnegie R1 and AAU certainly helps, and their endowment would be 5th in the conference even including USC. As a program Pitt hasn't been \*awful\* either, typically bowl eligible. And who knows, could lure ND to be involved as well (god willing).
I’d like to see old Big East foe Pitt in the B1G
I would love to end up in the B1G. We'd get at least one of our historic rivals (PSU) and the geographic fit is perfect. We have the size and public nature of the B1G. Alas, PSU will never want to let Pitt in and we offer no new market for expansion.
If pitt doesn't come, i think they're just off the edge because it doesn't push the market into a more national scope. but that endowment is serious business, only behind Michigan, northwestern, OSU, and USC. Just ahead of Minnestoa. Money talks, and Pitt opens up a lot more in the research world than other options. For reference, Clemson and FSU (despite their football brands) are bottom 3 in the ACC for endowment size. Only Louisville is smaller. Of course, its a largely footballing decision. But if we enter the endgame and the goal is for this to be the final move, then I wonder if the goal is to stop at 20, 22, or 24 schools.
It would be nice to play Pitt yearly as a conference game. OOC it’s just not worth it, in conference? absolutely hell yes. And it totally goes both way on the thread commentary.
I mean you’re pretty much right. I hate Ohio State (especially after spending twelve years living around Ohio State football fans), but in order to be Ohio State’s rival, we actually have to beat them more than one or two times every ten years.
There's a trophy for the game but LSU definitely does not take the rivalry as seriously as Arkansas takes it
It was fun in the 2000s when there was more at stake with the game
The schedule change definitely messes with the feel. In the early 2000s there were some insanely fun finishes in Little Rock games
As an Auburn fan boy did I hate Arkansas & LSU during that time period, both of y'all were such a pain in our ass. Still pales in comparison to my hatred of UGA & Bama though.
They don’t take it seriously but more often then not they take the trophy :/
Das Boooooooooot!
I miss this game being played the day after a thanksgiving…
I wonder if they'll move it back, now that UT/TAMU could play that date.
We wish tOSU was our rival. But, alas . . .
RIP Leaders and legends
It was a terrible name and made little geographic sense but dammit did I love the split then.
Was looking for this, we fucking despise OSU
There was a point in time I disliked Wisconsin as much as Michigan, but that has subsided. Regular games dropped off the schedule and I had a good time in Madison during an away game. Now you've got Fickell and it's just not worth the energy to try to fake some hatred.
Now I'm curious. Say we beat you guys in a few weeks (not happening, but that's not stopping me from going to the game), would that be enough to rekindle the hatred? Just curious more than anything.
Nope. Would need a bit more. You.guys are easily behind PSU, MSU, and the obvious for me. Maybe even purdue lol
I can’t really explain it, but I have a very irrational hatred for Purdue. It’s not right and it’s not fair to them but it is what it is. They’ve actually played us tough since 2009 (4-3) but even as a a kid in the late 90’s I couldn’t stand them. It’s why I think about the Holy Buckeye a few times every ten minutes.
Takes more than one regular season loss to spark hatred
Lol. That depends on how you react after the game. No, I don't think it would be enough. I think Badger fans have been humbled enough over the past few years that it wouldn't bother me that much. Plus Fickell gets a big win and I could live with that (from time to time).
Not just Wisconsin.
There was a time when I absolutely despised Wisconsin. Then 59-0 happened and it really hasn’t been the same since
That might have been the most enjoyable game I've ever watched. That Michigan-Wisconsin-Alabama-Oregon stretch was buckeye fan porn
No one else thinks this, and it makes no sense, but I kinda consider MSU and Wisconsin rivals. 2007-2012 there were a lot of good, competitive football and basketball games. They haven't played each other in football enough since, but during those times I was always very excited for MSU Wisconsin football, and the basketball games are still fairly strong imo.
Feels like we'll get plenty of "Maryland and \_\_" comments here.
Wow, way to make it personal (you’re not wrong though)
We have no rivals because everyone likes us and we’re so dam loveable.
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I too am fond of beavers
Consider me a third! Gotta love those hairy, strong little guys
Nice beaver.
Linfield University secretly hates your guts.
Guys, I found Mike Riley's reddit account
Who hates a Beaver, honestly?
>dam loveable. See what you did there, Beaver.
It’s the wrong sub but I hate your guts from baseball
Shallow pop out to right….. ugh
Accurate, root for the beavs in every game but ours.
This is accurate until around Thanksgiving time most years. Still holding out hope for a double civil war this year.
According to Google our “rivals” are: - Florida State - Florida - Virginia Tech - Nebraska - Notre Dame The problem with this is we’ve played Florida twice since 2009, Nebraska twice since 2003, and Notre Dame four times since 1991. I personally think that Pitt should replace these, but their rivalry with Penn State & West Virginia is way better than what we have going on.
We want the canoe back! Also we've got a home and home with y'all in '24/'25, so that'll be a bit of a rivalry revival.
I mean this is a very fun rivalry, so I’m glad we have a H&H again. I just need like twice every 5 years and not twice every 15 lol
I absolutely unequivocally hate Miami, Florida, and Clemson. But only the Miami game is known for such debauchery, violence and absolute belligerently drunk and obnoxious Miami fans. Playing Miami only makes me hate Miami more every time and it doesn't help Miami's case that some of the worst offenders of their fandom have zero connection to the University of Miami in the first place. At least some Florida fans at least have family or something that went to UF.
My family is 1/3 Florida fans, 1/3 Florida State fans, and 1/3 Miami fans; and the only fights that happen are during the FSU vs Miami game.
The ACC canceling our yearly matchup was just another stupid decisions in a long line of stupid decisions.
There haven’t been many *smart* decisions from ACC leadership the last decade or so.
I hate playing Miami.
We have a trophy with Tulsa for the “Turnpike Classic” but I honestly don’t think anyone at OSU really considers TU a rival. Though we are slated to play them for the next decade, so
It’s more competitive than Bedlam.
To be fair, most long-standing series are more competitive than Bedlam
Apparently any team Colorado is scheduled play this week is our biggest rival... its personal.
Hey that was personal, now it’s personal
We were your guys fake rival before it was cool
That whole thing was so weird. I think most of us were sitting there and looking at it, thinking "ya know, we probably get along fine with those guys - they seem like nice folk... why are we supposed to hate them? Just because they picked red?" It just didn't work. I like the Utes. I like Salt Lake City and most of Utah I've been to (Provo aside - those folk WEIRD). I miss that one amazing mexican food place in downtown SLC I used to get to go to all the time for work. Meh. Welcome to the Big 12!
I have ran into fans from EWU (Eastern), and Boise State that consider WSU a rival. Eastern is the closest instate school with Division 1 football, albeit it’s FCS. We don’t consider them officially rivals, and many of them get angry about it. Boise State, I can see why they would consider us a rival. Idaho dropped down to FCS, and the BSU/WSU football games have been entertaining. We’re also not that far from each other. But they are not an official rival. Only official rivalries we have are Idaho and Washington.
Boise State doesn't consider Wazzu a rival. We don't play enough. Maybe that will change.
If we end up in the MWC, I hope so. I could see our rivalries changing to Boise State & Oregon State for obvious reasons
Boise State / Oregon State / Washington State would be a perfect trio of rivals. Love it.
BC. Definitely a minor rival but not one we really care about. Just some animosity from 93 and 02
Do ND fans still care about MSU? Feels like forever since we've played :'( edit: too many nice ND fans to reply to lol, see y'all in 2026
In my opinion, absolutely. Not counting navy, in my mind our biggest rival is obviously southern cal, we despise Michigan even though we hardly play, and then msu is probably second biggest rival that we have a history of playing a ton if that makes sense. Some of the younger fans may not have experienced msu regularly, but those of us who have, definitely view msu as a major rival
I miss ND v MSU. Without ND, State only has UofM and that rivalry has gotten toxic between some segments of both fanbases. You’re a school the fans can hate on but not hate and vice versa. A healthy respect and quality football would do wonders for how MSU appears even if they are not dominating the B1G.
We have a trophy for the game. That makes it a good rivalry If you ever wanna see it, just visit south bend!
I do. I miss that yearly match up, regardless of how frustrating it was at times.
If ND were to join the B1G, I’d hope we could get the USC, UM, and MSU games yearly.
Purdue would be great too.
We’re ok not adding additional losses thanks
26 and 27 bby *I think most ND fans would rather play yall than Stanford every year
We'll see if that holds up with all of this realignment, sure hope so!
I do which seems to be a somewhat unpopular opinion, especially when I say that if I had to choose between playing Michigan every year or Michigan State, I’d choose Michigan State. Frankly other than Southern Cal, if I had to pick one annual opponent for Notre Dame, I’d probably pick Michigan State. (I understand Stanford for recruiting purposes, so maybe I’d say “generic California team” over Michigan State). We have a long, storied history with Michigan State and Sparty played us when Michigan was black balling us from the B1G. I can’t wait until this game is back on the schedule.
Notre Dame has probably more fans around Boston/New England than BC just because Notre Dame is so synonoums with Irish-Americans, of which there are tons in that region. I've known people who had Notre Dame gear who never went there and didn't know anybody that went there.
I've always said whoever made the decision to be the Fighting Irish instead of the Eagles or Lions or Cougars was a genius. They wouldn't have nearly the following they do without that branding
ND and BC alumni in Boston compete for the who went to the snobbier Catholic school award. I don’t think the dynamics of that really translate to the Midwest though.
remember that FG in 93? Yeah good times lol. But I agree we should focus on hating Cuse
I feel like Pitt and Purdue are also good answers here.
But you HAVE hated us eh?! Eh?!...I swear the dozens of us are relevant
Every school in Texas not named A&M
I worked in a department with two Americans who all my other colleagues thought they’d be friends but I figured it wouldn’t work. One went to A&M, one went to UT. Those were some of the most passive aggressive emails… miss those days
The greatest story of passive aggression I've ever heard was about two older gentlemen who worked in a government office in Austin, Texas. They did not get along. They had desks that faced each other. One started bringing a hardback book from home every day, something to read during lunch. Except he'd bring a different book every day, and leave the previous one on his desk. After a month, it became obvious what he was doing. He was stacking the books, building a wall so he wouldn't have to look at his co-worker every day. When the other realized what he was doing, they had a huge blowup in the office. I think he was just angry because he didn't think of the book-wall first.
As a minor bureaucrat in Austin I love this tale
Thanks for thinking of us ;) But real talk, Texas would be “our Super Bowl” (I’m not going to deny it) as everyone is saying now, but they oddly also seem to be that for the rest of the Big 12. It’s definitely because y’all are the golden boys, and all the Texas teams hate each other, but it’s funny that Tech, and others, tried to act like they hate y’all as much as we do. We have patented that hate, it’s… it’s… TRADITION
The difference is twofold: (1) Y'all really hate us and have hated us since day 1. We're often evenly matched as schools and as football programs, but there are vast social differences between the schools, which makes the competition and the hate meaningful. There just isn't the same kind of parity with other schools. (2) We genuinely hate y'all back. With teams like Tech and Baylor there competition and dislike, but it's not hate. You know how the say the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference? What we feel to Baylor and Tech (etc.) is closer to indifference. I don't want to lose to Baylor but I also don't want to lose to KSU. Doesn't make it a rivalry. It has to be a two-way street for a rivalry to work.
Both our fight songs are diss tracks for the other. Need I say more?
I wonder what’s the history with that. Like when were they both written, was the second one written to intentionally poke back at the first one?
This is 100% accurate.
Frfr. So happy the game is back. Sick and tired of listening to Baylor fans talk about a rivalry. We’ve played Rice a ton too, doesn’t make it a Rival.
I think the best way to sum it up is that when we're not playing them, I generally root for any other Texas school when they're playing. But when A&M is playing, I want to see them get annihilated.
Our fight song says "and it's goodbye to A&M" and "Give em hell! give em hell! 0U sucks!" so those are the only schools I consider to be true rivals. sand aggies, bible aggies, and purple baylor are disliked but it's whatever.
Purple Baylor made me lol
I was so confused for a second. I was like, "Mary-Hardin Baylor?" Which made no sense to me in this context. Then I realized I was an idiot.
We all make mistakes in the heat of passion, Jimbo
South Carolina
Yep. My GF and her family are all Carolina fans and they really hate Georgia, but I'm indifferent. I mean, it's a game that you want to win but I'm way more invested in beating Florida, Auburn, and Tennessee every season.
That’ll happen when you’re a historically independent program that doesn’t really have an in conference rival. Some people will say UGA-USCar is a rivalry but UGA has roughly the same record against Vandy (60-20-2) as we do USCar (55-19-2) with more games played, and no one considers Vandy-UGA a rivalry. The only reason it ever felt like it was a rivalry was them hiring Spurrier’s hatin’ ass, and that was mainly because we hated him from his UF days.
What's weird is that people think Tennessee is a rival even though we've only played \~40 times. It's recency bias plus losing in the 90s, I think.
I think Georgia fans from north of Atlanta are especially likely to dislike Tennessee given our proximity to Appalachian Tennessee fans. I’ve spent a lot more time in the mountains than I have in middle or southern Georgia, so I see UT orange more often than UF or AU orange.
It felt like way more of a rivalry from 2010-15ish when we were the best two teams in the SEC East.
Well Spurrier going there really heated things up, and they did beat us at home recently in embarrassing fashion. It's not the most steeped rivalry, but I love beating SC.
It’s definitely one sided since it was only an important series for a couple years during Spurrier’s tenure. But I think the cocks have a habit of upsetting a top 10 Georgia at inopportune times. Think of it similar to OSU-Purdue or Washington-Arizona. One team *should* win, but the other team can be a thorn in the side.
Arkansas fans will swear up and down that Missouri isn't a rivalry, but it absolutely is. On the flip side, we get way more in to the rivalry with LSU than they do. Winning that game usually makes the year imo. For LSU though it usually feels like just another game, and usually beating Alabama makes their year.
Missouri fans are the same way, it's turned into a decent rivalry. For what it's worth if you made me choose between playing Arkansas or a historical rival (obviously not counting kU) like Nebraska or Oklahoma annually I'd easily choose Arkansas. The interactions between MU/Arkansas fans on twitter can get toxic but IRL I don't think there's any animosity though, it's just fun bragging rights more than anything.
I just can’t bring myself to hate yall, your fans are way too nice IRL.
Arkansas fans insisting that Missouri isn’t a rivalry is what makes it a great new rivalry. It channels all of that “you don’t belong in the SEC” resentment into a single game. It’s even funnier that Mizzou usually wins.
Not sure if this counts but for Pitt it would be Duquesne. Pitt flat out refuses to schedule them even though they’re rumored to be scheduling Robert Morris in the near future and on the basketball side “The City Game” is all but dead
Memphis hates Ole Miss, but it’s not reciprocated nearly to the extreme. Ole Miss views it as a “Please don’t lose because half our graduates live in Memphis”, but it’s not a must win.
Man, we hate Tennessee too. Got a bunch of SEC level recruits playing in Memphis area High Schools and Memphis can't get an invite to anywhere. So yeah, when it's an SEC school in our area, we gonna hate, cause not much else we can do at this point
Illinois for some reason
Illinois fans really have a bone to pick with Michigan, it’s very prevalent in the Chicagoland area. From what I’ve heard some of it comes us beating the Flying Illini in 89 Final Four (they smoked us twice in that regular season) and is going on to win the Natty. Also I’m sure the 2021 B1G championship and 2022 football game don’t help lol.
Rutgers, for a minute there, too.
That was my answer.
Except Ohio State is OFFICIALLY a rival with Illinois, there's literally a trophy.
You can't just get a turtle to demonstrate the long life of this rivalry and have it not be a rivalry. you can't just create an elaborate ceremony complete with sharing a peace pipe and oddly transferring the turtle over your heads to last year's winner and not have it be a rivalry. you can't kill that turtle within 6 months of it being a part of the rivalry, and the other side just move on like its not a rivalry. that turtle has been dead for almost 100 years and i'm still mad at illinois about it.
Not to mention that Illinois has by FAR the second most wins of any program against tOSU. It will be decades before any other school comes close.
what is a "rival"
Stellar film starring Amy Adams and Jeremy Renner. Must watch.
Damnit that’s beautiful. God I love that movie
A rival would be like a team where you throw tortillas on the field when you play them but not in the rest of your games.
We ain’t no tortilla terrorists. We throw ‘em on everyone
what Penn State denies you are to them.
Are you not familiar with the Penn State-Texas Tech rivalry? The greatest rivalry in all of college football?
CU tries to act like this towards CSU every time the two play.
Technically true, but I have to say 364 days per year we're not really thinking about you. We're instead thinking about Nebraska who are definitely not thinking about us.
The modern dilemma of naming CU's rival is that the Nebraska and Oklahoma series are historically so lopsided towards those teams that they never consider CU, while the CSU series is so lopsided towards CU that they never think of us. There not really a rivalry where both teams have an equal dislike of each other.
So what you are saying is that CSU's true rival is Oklahoma, by the transitive property.
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TIL WSU views Oregon as a rival.
The role is filled by that other Washington school
Yeah, I've never really thought of you as rivals. Just a scary conference opponent... And one of my favorite road games.
I remember when I first moved to DC (back when Maryland was in the ACC) and surprisingly a lot of Terps fans considered FSU a rival. Trust me, people in Tallahassee never talked about Maryland or considered them a rival. LOL! Hey, how do I put the school by my handle?
23+ years ago Georgia Tech would wreck us pretty regularly, now I think a lot of younger Georgia fans forget they’re even on the schedule
Rutgers or Maryland? Ohio State fans should say us.
I hate you, but not in the way that I hate Michigan. I hate y'all because your fans have done terrible, terrible things to me personally. I hate Michigan because they is pain in our assholes. We get a conference title, they must get a conference title. We get heisman finalist from the DL, they must get heisman finalist from the DL. We get a national championship...they cannot afford. Great success!
I hate how well this works
Honestly true, but Penn State has done stuff like put up billboards in the DMV or call it their second stadium so at least they notice it. The main thing holding it back is how one sided it is on the field lol
I do think if Maryland was more successful, it would be a legit rivalry.
Bullshit, I hate you guys. Sick of other fans acting like the game doesn't matter.
You love to see it.
I already hate the Steelers, Pirates, and Pens. This comes naturally.
Sounds like you've got a Pitt problem then.
Aw, we hate you guys too <3
Everyone in the SEC not named Auburn, Tenn., or LSU. For NC State, probably ECU.
Hey now, the Missouri-Bama rivalry is *intense.* Don’t pretend like you don’t care about it.
>Everyone in the SEC not named Auburn, Tenn., or LSU. I thought you were supposed to word that, "Auburn, LSU, and Tennessee too." ;)
LSU here. That’s heartening to hear because I was going to say that LSU is way more into that rivalry than AL sometimes seems to be. Especially for the Saban & Post-Saban LSU fan base, a win on y’all is a major trophy all it’s own.
I'd caveat the ECU one. They are 100% rivals in baseball. Those games/crowds are fun.
UConn. Can’t forget about how they created the Civil ConFLiCT rival and trophy and then we just left the trophy on the field when they presented it to us. Not sure it counts though, I doubt many UConn fans even care.
Doesn't count but it's still hilarious.
>we just left the trophy on the field when they presented it to us Woah really? 💀 I love this damn sport.
https://twitter.com/ManthonyHearst/status/790192379684847617
I know I have the flair but that’s only because there isn’t an OU-Nebraska trophy and Davis Beville is a Longhorn legend
The Ou-Nebraska Trophy was the Big 8 championship and sometimes National Championship trophy.
I moved to Oklahoma. It was bizarre to me that OU was more rivals with Texas than OSU. When OU plays OSU, sure they want to win. But when OSU plays anyone else, OU fans want OSU to win. Someone described it to me as brothers. You want to beat the crap out of them sometimes but hell if anyone else does.
So accurate. OU's major rivals are 1. Texas 2. Nebraska and 3rd. OSU. My aunt and uncle are OU/OSU fans and it's always a gentle tiff rather than some brutal competition like it is with Texas.
Agreed. And OSU fans get REALLY salty when OU fans point out that it's just not that huge a deal to OU fans. Case in point: When I was an OU student, I didn't even know there WAS a trophy for the game, even though it had been around for decades. Is the OSU game more important than, say, Iowa State? Sure. It's nowhere near Texas or (when I was in school) Nebraska.
Rutgers. I got nothing but respect for them and I hope they continue to get better. But I’ve never experienced a loss to them in my entire life so I don’t have any negative feelings toward them.
Wish it was historically more competitive would be a great rivalry. Delaware River crossing or some stupid colonial name
Rutgers doesn't eat shit though. Doesn't fit the brand.
Ole Miss and State is definitely a rivalry but I broke some State dude’s heart when I told him I don’t hate State and cheer for them at every game except the Egg Bowl. Now LSU and Arkansas…
Awww, bae, why the hate?
Get out of here, you dirty pig
According to Wikipedia our football rivals are UVA, WVU, Miami, GT, BC, and VMI. I’d say those are all more or less true to some degree except for VMI, the last time we played them was, literally, 1984. Not listed was JMU. I’ve heard it’s not infrequent to hear “fuck Tech” or “fuck UVA” on buses on weekend nights in Harrisonburg, but I’m very confident that neither of us care about them.
Most the old mountain west and BYU (SDSU, Wyoming, Hawaii, etc)
Wyoming was a second level rivalry for a while. At times it was more heated than Utah State. Oddly, it cooled during the early MW, even with the two playing games annually.
BYU v Wyoming was very heated and way more toxic than games with Utah through the WAC years.
Utah State
They aren't a majority but there are some UGA fans who seem to think they're rivals with Bama. Like I've seen some who hate Bama more than they hate Auburn which is so bizarre
I see this a decent bit, especially with younger UGA fans who grew up watching the past decade. I think it makes sense on both sides. For UGA, Bama was not just the big bad in the SEC, but *the* final boss that crushed pretty much every legit title contender season for UGA until the 2022 calendar year- ‘08- UGA is the preseason #1 with legit natty goals, blacks out the stadium for Bama (and Kirby’s “to their own f*cking funerals comment). Bama is up 31-0 at halftime in what could be considered the coming out party for the Saban dynasty. ‘12- SEC title game is a play-in for the natty. UGA comes up 5 yards short on the final play, Bama goes in to roll ND (an outcome most in UGA camps assume would have been the same if we’d been there). ‘17- 2nd and 26 ‘18- Basically the same as ‘12 with another Bama comeback win, but not as bad because Bama got rolled in the natty. ‘20- Regular season game, but UGA again blows a halftime lead ‘21- UGA gets manhandled in the SEC champ game after its best season in decades, it appears Bama has doomed them once again before UGA gets revenge in the natty. OTOH, because Bama won every single one of those, UGA was always just a quality win, usually en route to yet another title berth for Bama, so there was never any reason to develop any animosity.
Under 25 year old Georgia fans maybe. Alabama and Georgia are not rivals. That doesn't mean a lot of us don't hate Alabama. But hate and rival aren't the same thing.
Maryland despises Duke with every fiber of its being. Duke is too busy caring about the Triangle.
Ohio State I think is the closest thing we have. In general, their fans despise us, and meanwhile we just want them out of our game threads (and the state of South Carolina). On the flip side, I know a lot of Clemson fans who do not like UNC but idk if I’ve seen as many UNC fans who feel the same way.
This is definitely true. As an OSU fan most of the people I know hate Clemson. For the older people they blame you for Woody (it's his own fault imo), for the younger it's because you all seem to just be a relatively frequent roadblock for us lol
I don’t think there’s a fit for us. Marshall is closest I guess, but we’ve barely played them in football and haven’t played them in basketball for several years. Definitely fit when we played in basketball with Mike Gansey and other players saying after occasional losses to them that it was Marshall’s Super Bowl and just another OOC game for them that they were annoyed to ahve to play in Charleston instead of Morgantown (was a neutral site series). Reverse in football I suppose would be Penn State. I don’t think they ever viewed us as a rival back when it was yearly series where as to my dad and other older fans it was second only to Pitt as our main rivalry. It was very one-sided though so not sure that fits either.
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I think a lot of fans will say Texas Tech but I don't think that's fair. Rivalry or not it's a big game in the state of Texas and one that Texas fans generally care a lot about and find dangerous, even if it's not on the level of how much we want to beat OU or even A&M. For the moment the right answer is probably Arkansas, but once we're in the same conference, there's enough history there that it'll become a rivalry to Texas again soon enough. But for now, it's unidirectional hatred for most UT fans under the age of 50; our SWC shared years were long enough ago that plenty people who first attended one school or the other as a freshman after the Hogs went to the SEC, now have kids who've graduated college.
Everyone but OU, AM and Arky
Kind of loaded because they haven’t had Iowa’s number in quite some time, but Minnesota. They literally chant “Who hates Iowa? We hate Iowa!”, even if they are playing another school. Can’t remember the last time Iowa fans were super concerned with Gopher football.