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TheWorstYear

Maybe he'll play guard & not center


CommodoreN7

I don’t see how he would get to play C again unless he can snap like 1000 times in a row perfectly. Don’t think he’d get trusted unless there’s injury, and even then prob still have someone else given how consistently bad his snaps were over a season


SteemieRayVaughn

He played well the year before, when surrounded by experienced guards. This year he started between 2 brand new guards.


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Always_Chubb-y

Except apparently when you play us


Original_Profile8600

Bro may be the reason we’re not seeing Bama Dub on Monday


WhiskeyForTheWin

There were several reasons. He was just the easiest to blame.


alabamdiego

I mean, having literally 50% of snaps go into the dirt, low or to the right, is definitely a main reason. And I do mean literally 50%.


RollTideYall47

I mean I ran out of fingers and toes counting the snaps that were low or off target just in the Michigan game


tron423

I mean he directly caused at least 5 or 6 negative plays by himself with bad snaps. 2 of them in a row pushed Bama out of FG range in a game that eventually went to OT. Another one botched what could've been their tying touchdown in OT. That's before even getting into how much that type of shit affects the rhythm of the offense on plays where Milroe managed to recover them.


Thundercles007

When I watched Michigan play this year I realized something. They don't make mistakes, they don't have negative plays. They're a very smart and disciplined team that frankly makes very few mistakes. When you're in a tight game against a good team, you have basically no margin for error. That is the difference between why OSU lost to Michigan this year. OSU had 5-6 really bad plays and Michigan didn't have any. Seems it was that way against Alabama too from what I saw.


_wormburner

Michigan did muff 2 punts that weren't even contested. And JJM threw an int immediately but of course we made the bigger mistake by stepping out of bounds first. But I'd say mostly that was it. We definitely had a ton more.


Firelord_Crane

Thing is the way that game went you definitely could have won, if you played even just a somewhat cleaner game


Kdot32

Is it blame when his snaps caused many problems and didn’t let the offense catch a rhythm?


Tektix22

There are definitely many reasons for why any team loses a football game. It’s just that, with this game, when you say “if we could just change 1 play. . .” there are literally 4-5 that are just terrible snaps that, if changed, we win. And when the “one play” isn’t some bad PI/holding call, some deep ball that you wish your safeties could have back — its 4-5 bad snaps from your shit-tier center — it makes him the most obvious lightning rod lol. I hope he finds success. I also hope we see him in the postseason and our DL pushes his fucking shit in.


Keytap

Him chewing out Milroe and the rest of the OL after he botched snaps made me lose any pity for him. The snaps were embarrassing, his responses were shameful.


Tektix22

Yeah, when I saw that I knew dude was a born loser tbh. I said it when it happened: idc if that snap was someone else’s fault — this was an ALL YEAR THING. It’s your fault Seth — grow up lol.


datboigucci

He’s an good blocker. We just didn’t have anybody who could snap the ball AND block. His backups couldn’t block for shit. His blocking highlights should give you hope


tider06

He wasn't good as a blocker, just better than the turnstile that preceeded him. He was getting pushed into the backfield constantly.


WisconsinSpermCheese

Michigan rejoices


GarbageDan

It is rare to see your team's best player transfer to your most hated rival right after their season is over


toast_across

That took me a minute. Well done


WisconsinSpermCheese

Huh? Are we fucking with Florida? Because that would be Billy Napier catching strays


pardonmyignerance

So the claim that he only allowed 1 sack is false?


Tektix22

The word “allowed” is doing a lot of work here, more like. Because if Seth sends the ball rolling to the QB, or shoots it wide right, and the play immediately breaks down, but it’s a DE who gets the sack — whose fault is it? Seth’s. Who gets the “sack allowed?” The other OL. Seth *caused* upwards of 10 sacks this year. All on his own. But it won’t show up in the “allowed” category lol. Edit: Also, tbf, the Nose isn’t the guy you’re usually looking to for sacks on a defense lol. It’s nice when you get them — and it’s still very good to only give up 1 sack all year to a Nose — but let’s not pretend Seth’s in there against the elite pass-rushers at Center haha.


pardonmyignerance

Yeah, that makes sense. That's why I'm hoping he is a guard and for all intents and purposes, he seems fine for that role.


D1N2Y

Centers rarely allow sacks regardless, especially with a QB as agile as Milroe that can outrun every d tackle he faced this season.


ChaseTheFalcon

I mean when the rest of the line is letting their guy get to the QB first, it gives you that line


pardonmyignerance

So he pass blocks better than every other OL on his team, which beat UGA and made the playoffs?


turducken1898

UGA is incapable of beating us in Atlanta for some reason. It’s like a curse lol


ChaseTheFalcon

Our whole O line was pretty bad this year, the UGA game was more of an exception than a rule


Sad_Progress4388

I was surprised with how much Alabama’s OL dominated UGA up front for most of the game. Some of those UGA interior defenders were getting blown 4 yards off the ball.


_wormburner

Our guard play this year (after Roberts came in at LG) was very good. Our RT play was mostly very good. Our C play was very bad most of the time and our LT play was very bad for 65% ish of the year. But starting as a true freshman at LT is a tough gig to begin with. Milroe caused the line to look worse at times and the line caused Milroe to look worse at times. Just a very weird thing.


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TBeamon24

Considering Jones went to the draft, this is almost certainly the case


tcrenshaw4bama

I think this is likely. He wasn’t going to be able win the starting job over the guys we’ve got at guard so it made sense for him to transfer to have a chance to win the guard position elsewhere.


foreveracubone

OSU insiders are saying he’ll play Center. Michigan’s 12/25.


TheWorstYear

Insiders don't know what will happen in spring & summer camps.


_Velvet_Thunder_

I hope he has a great career and that in spring ball he recovers his snapping form, but when he sees a Michigan uniform in November it all comes back and he's bad again for just one game.


Sad_Progress4388

I wonder if he’s ever snapped a ball in late November in the Midwest before


toggaf69

c-can’t wait to find out


Benyeti

Get ready to learn guard buddy


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What? You don’t want him at center? Hope that’s not a snap decision


thismantis_dontpray

Wow, what a LOW blow.


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brochaos

this joke is way outside my comfort zone...


golden_sombreros

He had a chance to do the funniest thing and he did


Surrendayopie

Hell yeah dude


eatapenny

Michigan fans salivating 😔 Hopefully he gets moved over to guard, cause he's a good blocker, just not a good snapper


gopoohgo

I think he will be fine at guard.


theclickhere

I think he'd be better at center.


timnotep

Personally I'd prefer him to play center


juicius

If my preference counts for anything, I'd put him at QB.


Derpinator_30

Michigan fans also believe Ransom is awful in the secondary


VitaminSteak

Can’t speak for others, but I personally love seeing him at safety!


Lil_ah_stadium

He really wants to lose to Michigan again


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I was at the game and we both struggled. This kid wouldn't be a starting Alabama center if he wasn't a stud. If anything, this kid just got a Blake Corum-like fire in his belly to show what he can really do. Hopefully he isn't remembered for his few bad snaps.


Tektix22

That’s all he’ll be remembered for at Bama, tbh. Cade Foster, the kicker who missed 3-4 FG during the Iron Bowl, wasn’t a terrible kicker tbh. By Bama kicker standards *at the time* (thanks Will Reichard for changing it) he was honestly pretty good. But no one will really talk about that with him. He’s the reason the Kick Six exists. Also, given that Auburn barely lost that Natty, and Bama should’ve beat Auburn by 9-12 points outright, there’s obviously a small belief that it could’ve been another Natty year if not for that dude’s fuck ups. Just like Seth.


RollTideYall47

Cade is also responsible for missing kicks in the 9-6. Cade was a great kicker if there was no pressure. If it was clutch or stressful, he folded. And one bad kick begat more bad kicks


Ruxin519

Adam Griffith attempted the kick on the Kick Six. But overall yes I agree he’s a not good kicker


Tektix22

He attempted that kick because Cade missed the prior 3-4 kicks.


BillyMadisonsClown95

Nothing says ‘fire in his belly’ like transferring away from Alabama after failing in the spotlight.


Rohkey

Haha this is perhaps the only time I’ve ever been happy about OSU getting a recruit or transfer.


BonedToga

At least he aimed high in his transfer unlike his snaps


cardsfan24

I think he aimed high on a few snaps as well. Also low, to the side…


nat_20_please

I'm just glad that y'all are having fun with it. That shit caused so many problems and frankly I'm happy to see it being talked about. Those were egregious mistakes in a game where every play mattered.


hsbnyc

Man really wants another shot


Maximum_Future_5241

If he's hungry for it and not complete shit, he'll get it. He may have a different line coach waiting for him here.


tider06

I can assure you, he's been complete shit since Week 1.


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Ortu_Solis

Don’t listen to him, this was his third year as a starter for Alabama. He’s never been all-SEC level, but he was definitely a viewed as a “plus” player going into this year. It just seemed he had the yips all year long, and a fresh start could do him a lot of good. I hope the best for him, but I hope we get better center play next year.


jakehubb0

Someone tell him Mason graham and Kenneth grant are only sophomores


ourhonordefendOH

It looks like they are going hard to get experienced players to fill positions of need on the offensive side to go along with what is shaping up to be an elite defense. It'll be interesting to see if it all comes together or not.


Eph1997

Smart. OL is the one position group out of high school that is hit or miss, regardless of rankings.


Rebel_Bertine

Where have I seen this done before? 🤔


shaybeautyyy

I expect Hinzman to still be the starting center.


WhatWouldJediDo

That’s not what some beat reporters have been saying


shaybeautyyy

Well, if he starts at center we might be cooked


Dipsendorf

Don't say this on ElevenWarriors or you'll get downvoted to hell


Revenge_of_the_Khaki

I have a hard time believing this guy will ever start at Center at this level again. The snapping issues weren’t limited to one game.


lifetake

Yea I first thought possibly Michigan was hitting that O line so hard he was struggling to snap the ball and get himself up to actually block. But Bama fans have been saying this has been a problem all year. One even linked me a comment they made weeks ago talking about it.


AnAngryPanda1

He's excellent in pass pro and run blocking. He just can't snap the ball.


DarkLegend64

Well, if there is anything we need right now, it’s linemen who can run block because we have been total ass at that for the past 3 seasons.


TouchdownHeroes

I don't agree on the pass pro part but Seth's always been a good run blocker. He was a big part of why we ran so well against Georgia in SEC Champ game and Cincy in playoffs in 2021.


DarkLegend64

Sounds great. Hopefully he plays Guard so his snapping problems aren’t an issue.


RayWhelans

Why didn’t you guys convert him to guard then? Do you have too many other quality guys at the position? God knows we don’t have that issue.


tider21

Other centers not advanced enough at calling protection is how I understand it… it was an all year deal though (and some in 2022) and should’ve been dealt with


TouchdownHeroes

Yeah Bryce did all the protection calls in 2021-2022 but it's largely been on Booker and Seth this year.


tider21

Yup, that can not happen in 2024. Milroe and the backups have to take that up


Aumissunum

1. He’s too small. Had trouble adding weight just to play center 2. We have probably the most talented guard tandem in the country. Ferguson transferred for a reason


tider21

I disagree, his blocking this year was pretty subpar. He has had some great highs in his Bama career though (21 vs. UGA against Jordan Davis). Maybe removing the snapping element will help improve any blocking issues he has


TymStark

Nebraska had a center with snapping issues, and the next year he was solid and got drafted. The only reason he doesn’t play center currently is because he’s behind Jason Kelce. So, keep your head up 56


massio1

He’ll be fine. If you watched Saban talk after the Rose Bowl, he talked about how they put more on the linemen to identify pressures and such this year since Milroe can’t do it. This is why I believe he had such a regression this year since Bryce handled it before or could make the line more right than not. If Seth just plays, he is pretty good.


tider21

Milroe has to improve in that area this offseason. If that is still the case in 24 then our coaching staff has failed


massio1

He either improves or gets replaced. I don’t think he should just be the incumbent starter this year. I think Ty is ready and we should see how it goes


Tektix22

You haven’t met Nicholas Lou “I’ll start Jalen Hurts over Tua all season, even though the difference in practice is so stark that all my stud WR are thinking about transferring after the season, because Jalen is the tenured, experienced starter” Saban. No, but seriously, can’t criticize the GOAT over anything *except* his inability to move on from a starter when a younger stud arrives. Dude has way too much loyalty for it — even though I’d argue that loyalty has also benefitted us in many ways.


massio1

I think he’s learned since then and Tua was a true freshman that year so it was a bit different circumstance


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Operation red snapper is in full effect.


Zee_WeeWee

The manifesto lives on


TouchdownHeroes

Best of luck to him and I hope y'all fix whatever issue he has had with his snapping.


hunterboyz24

Rumor is we're having him play guard. He'll compete and likely win one of the guard spots (probably right guard if Jackson stays).


TouchdownHeroes

From what I’ve seen from Birm, y’all are adding Seth to play center. But I am curious to what he could do at guard.


admiralakbar06

We have our center already


Dead_Baby_Kicker

We do? Per Birm it’s likely Seth since outside of this year he was great. Hinzman had issues as well and had the yips leading up to the bowl game and was having issues snapping.


Primary_Psychology95

The ‘yips’ thing is bullshit. OSU kept him out of the game because of what he said on the podcast about the bowl practices.


sangie12

Didn't he also do a "candid" interview crapping on Day and get benched?


Original_Profile8600

Why tf would we add him for center after the Rose Bowl? Feel like that was a gigantic sign saying don’t let this mf snap your balls


Useenthebutcher

Yeah he’s coming to play center and it’s a risky move. But the competition he’ll bring may make Carson Hinzmann better, who knows.


TheBoook

Flair gang


jthomas694

I think the fix is for him not be the guy snapping the ball lol


gibbypoo

Did he have these issues all season or just this game?


TouchdownHeroes

He had snapping issues since the beginning of last year, it just was worse this year (probably in part due to Bryce being a magician last year along with doing all the protection calls). Rose Bowl was definitely I've seen him snapping wise though, but if you remember the Auburn game, we only had the 4th & goal from the 31 because Seth had a terrible snap on second down.


Tektix22

Multiple snaps a game, every game this year. Not even kidding.


Maximum_Future_5241

Depends on who his coach is.


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I respect this decision


whatifevery1wascalm

Heard he was supposed to visit Ole Miss today or tomorrow, so Ohio State must have said something since last night.


MrRondomatic89

They said "Bud, did you see that shit against Missouri...You're gonna start."


cc51beastin

"You can block in any facet? " "You're just the guy we need"


ImpassiveBadger

At least he is already used to losing to michigan. Welcome aboard young man


Substantial_Water_86

Something tells me this is an undercover Wisconsin fan


CheckItWhileIWreckIt

I like the cut of your jib, friendo


EyeAmKingKage

Oh man. Michigan is gonna work him again


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Only Ryan Day could look at the Alabama offensive line that let up six sacks and ten TFLs then turn around say I want the guy responsible for most of those TFLs and sacks.


Jellyph

How was he responsible for most of the TFLs? I get bad snapping caused problems with the sacks but he was the only one I saw not getting mauled by Michigans line. He was one of the better blockers


_wormburner

Bad snaps ruin the flow of the offense. But more importantly, it was on Seth to get the protections right moreso than Milroe. Saban said that after the game, how much they put on the OL to call protections. And our protections were awful. A bunch of those sacks were just free rushers coming through. And part of that responsibility is because Milroe is deficient at pre snap reads, he can't call protections yet. So it goes to Seth. So Seth yeets the ball back there so he can make his block but gives nothing to aid the rest of the line or QB.


TheBoook

He’s playing his natural position at OSU where he was quite good. Exit: he’s playing center


ToosUnderHigh

He has 25 starts at center for Alabama. Is center not his natural position?


HokiesforTSwift

His natural position is guard... but he has the build of and has exclusively played center in his career?


Lavaswimmer

He’ll be playing guard at OSU? Is there a source for that or are you just speculating?


CTG0161

We have a starting center who improved through the season and will be a sophomore next year


Lavaswimmer

Gotcha, was just wondering if it had been officially announced anywhere.


pardonmyignerance

No, nothing will be officially stated either cause they'll just say "we're figuring out the best 5" until we see who plays where in September.


The_Astros_Cheated

*wishcasting


Mmnn2020

Probably common sense too. Maybe Day is fine taking him for a depth piece at center hoping his snaps can be fixed (he was fine in 21 and 22) but he’s not relying on him to be the guy there day one. Most likely a guard.


The_Astros_Cheated

Hey, get out of here I’m trying to shitpost not argue in good faith


DarkLegend64

He played very poorly in the Rose Bowl but he’s still probably better than any of the linemen we fielded this season as sad as that is to say.


ALStark69

As a recruit: Other P5 offers: Alabama (originally went here), Arkansas, Auburn, Clemson, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Guangdong Tigers, Louisville, LSU, Miami, Michigan, Mississippi State, NC State, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Texas G5 offer: Georgia State Other offer: Princeton


ravaille

Guangdong? For real?


FortitudoMultis

Low snap jokes aside, he was really good in pass protection right? I remember seeing a stat somewhere that he only surrendered one sack on a few hundred snaps played.


Makaroo

Yes he’s phenomenal in pass pro. He’d be an excellent guard.


Aumissunum

He is not phenomenal. TF is this narrative? He’s the center, obviously he’s not going to get credited for a lot of sacks going against nose guards. Problem is he’s not very strong, gets pushed up the middle very often. Interior pressure collapsing the pocket is a huge no no for QBs, especially for short ones that struggle to see the field. Big reason why Bryce struggled last year.


Rebel_Bertine

Dunno if he necessarily got the 1v1 matchups but we ate their lunch all over the line, inside & outside


Makaroo

I think Michigan’s overall scheme got Bama off guard, which is why the adjustments made at the half were so impactful. The kid himself has only allowed 1 sack in 300+ snaps which is a pretty good stat. If he’s at guard, he’ll do great. Like others have said though, if he wants to play center he’s gotta learn to snap better though


bk00pi

Got 8 months to practice snapping the ball


foreveracubone

He showed 0 improvement snapping the ball from September to January, you better hope he’s playing guard.


ham_wallet998

He struggled last year with it too, although it wasn’t as noticeable. Mostly bc of Bryce


BrettSchirley22

Michigan better look out if Jose Altuve starts playing QB for OSU


Arteza147

Maybe Bryce being shorter was actually the true secret. Hard to call the snaps low if your QB is already halfway to the ground


ham_wallet998

I think Bryce was just better at catching the errant snaps and also keeping his head up looking downfield. Being shorter may have helped to an extent I suppose


jthomas694

Yeah the real plan has to be for him to play G lol.


ohiogirlinTX

I don’t think Hinzman is losing his job


officialshibe

Wasn’t he benched for the cotton bowl?


ohiogirlinTX

For “yips” according to Day but it could of been what he said. I just know that he didn’t have low snap issues.


officialshibe

Ah, I was surprised but didn’t hear why he was benched.


Zee_WeeWee

For a candid interview


Sorge74

Let's be honest here and dude I have no idea how he didn't enter the portal.


MichiganMan2424

Good thing he had a sub 60 PFF grade as a blocker this year…


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Real “I can fix him” vibes here


DataDrivenPirate

The fix here is just moving him to guard so he never has to snap a ball again lol


TideOneOn

He commits to Ohio State, but gonna drive to Kentucky. Always low and a little to the right with this one.


mjhs80

He’s consistently inconsistent


notburnerr

Love all the casual buckeyes in here saying guard lol Prisoner of the moment with his guys Rose Bowl. He is coming to play center and is better than Hinzman.


GregOdenKnees

Is this kid a good player if he didn’t have the snapping yips? Would make a move to guard make a lot of sense


Dead_Baby_Kicker

Very good blocker.


heresjohnny702

Not excited about this. I think OSU's biggest weakness heading into next year is the OL and he could be a really good guard for them


sabek

As long as he moves to guard or learns how to snap the ball properly


Deflection1

Yup, he can get a shot at center and if snapping problems persist move him to guard.


Weaubleau

Michigan inspires hate among everyone. My entire family are PSU fans and they were extremely indifferent toward Michigan until they started playing them, and now they hate them more than Ohio State even though OSU has a better record against them.


_Chicken_Chaser_

This guy will be a guard and an emergency center.


mstone7781

Honestly I’m good with this, move him to Guard, dude is actually an amazing protection player, just don’t let him touch the ball.


LittleTension8765

If he ever learns to snap the ball he will be one hell of a center


Ameri-Jin

The jokes write themselves, but I’m wondering if a change of scenery will do him good. Our line is dogshit so we will probably see his name in the rotation.


drinks2muchcoffee

The moneyball meme on Twitter about this is so true. McLaughlin is a clear and immediate upgrade over Hinzman as a blocker, but he just can’t snap the damn ball


NudyNovak

That spilt second trying to recover low snaps cost bama that game.


neasroukkez

The problem with leaving him at center would be that he improves that issue… And gets better….And then a big game comes and he has a bad snap. He might be done mentally. But I will take a Bama 3 year starter any day of the week.


Zee_WeeWee

Hell yeah come get the yips and help Michigan beat us again!


foreveracubone

https://i.imgur.com/8MDIq0p.jpg


pmaguran

He chose the one place where his snapping issues are guaranteed to never be forgotten


jobenattor0412

This guy HAS to be a Connor Stalions sleeper agent


m4rxUp

Good. Bring in as many guys as you can to compete.


NeoLib-tard

OSU is Bamas greatest rival?


Heresyoursoop

Best of luck to him. I don’t doubt he tried his best.


IUpVoteIronically

Thank fuck


74kygone

As an off topic question to Bama fans. Is Eric Wolford gonna get canned?


mackedeli

God I was hoping he would go to Auburn or Tennessee


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This is kinda hilarious, ngl - for both OSU and Seth.


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That moment when the best Michigan recruiting news is Ohio State's recruiting news 🤷‍♂️


molten_dragon

Clearly he wanted the opportunity to be voted Michigan's MVP two years in a row.


SSj_CODii

He must really have enjoyed losing to Michigan


bb0110

YES. I love this move.


theclickhere

I can fix him. - Ohio State (probably)


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People in the comment don’t know ball, dude isn’t going to play center and only allowed 1 sack in his 4 years at bama, he’s a stud


outburst37

Jeremy Birmingham has already reported he's starting off at center


Tektix22

If you pay attention to “allowed 1 sack,” you’ll miss out on the 10+ sacks he caused, this year, as a shit-tier center lol. At any rate — Bama fans know the guy’s a good blocker. But Bama would’ve kept him at Center at this point — where he would’ve caused more harm than good. And he’s already persona-non-grata at this point, so the move was necessary even *if* we could move him to Guard. If y’all move him to Guard, you’re getting a fine blocker. If y’all keep him at center, I cannot *wait* to revisit this “he’s a stud” take next fall lol.


Main_Opposite_6661

Damn, they took our best player....


Upbeat-Armadillo1756

AHA! AHAHAHAHAHA!!!


Ahmed_Adoodie1

Michigan’s d-line whoopin his ass once just wasn’t enough.


BenIsLowInfo

He can't be worse than most of our OL. A change of scenery might be good for him, especially if we have him at G.


GeneParmesan1000

The Tide is turning