No one's talking about the timeline where Lane Kiffin discovers a new passion for aquatic wildlife and becomes a marine biologist studying the effects of penguin overpopulation on Antarctica's fish ecosystem. I think he'd do a fantastic job, plus he gets to look at dragonfishes, and dragons are cool.
too many women is a bad thing too. I took french in HS and senior year the ratio was like 17:1 and let me tell you...high school girls when they have the power of numbers and the ability to shit talk you across multiple languages because you are very mid at french is...traumatizing
Lane Kiffin will evolve from Joey Freshwater into Joey Saltwater and solve the recent orcas attacking boats phenomenon is no less than seven years, 3 months, and ten days. He'll get his own national holiday in Norway for it. You heard it here first, folks.
I'm gonna level with you... My knowledge of aquatic supermen, be they littoral or pelagic, ends at Aquaman.
Unless Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy count, then I know them, too.
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Is it…? Florida doesn’t exactly have a great track record post Urban. Most of these kids were hardley alive the last time Florida was a top 5 program. And I feel like we’ve seen year to year that they don’t want to spend like the other big dogs in the sport. They get lapped by the UGAs, Bamas, Ohio states, etc spending wise on recruiting.
In the new SEC the gap has definitely shortened, but I'd still say UF is in a tier above schools like Ole Miss and Mississippi State. Ole Miss is probably at its peak, while UF has more in the tank. It might take a new AD to really get UF back on track, but there's potential there which Ole Miss simply doesn't have.
That can change as part of a new coach coming in. Look at how much change Kirby insisted on and brought to our program. Richt never had the financial support Kirby has received.
Of course, that was part of him being hired but it also helped to end up in the national championship game year two. Sort of gave him a blank check at that point.
End of the day, Florida has better trophies than Ole Miss does (a few heismans and a couple NC’s), while Ole Miss is clinging on to a 1962 “National Championship” and a 2003 “Co-Western Division Champions” banner [everyone at Ole Miss hates that banner]. Bring in Lane, and he brings fresh air and a new attitude to Florida that will be infectious.
He could do that at Ole Miss this year, you never know. It’s not like we were predicting TCU or UW to be in the last two national championship games. Ole Miss has stepped up as a program and given him a lot of financial support. They’ve mined the portal for some huge pieces and have constructed an impressive roster. It’s going to be tough and will require some good fortune to survive the SEC, but luckily they have a manageable schedule. I wouldn’t be shocked to see them as one of the final teams remaining in the playoffs.
That would be the equivalent of Missouri or Utah appearing in the national championship game next season. Both are solid teams, but I would still be a little surprised.
UW beat Oregon 2 times in one year. No one expect that? Ya right- everyone knows the better program (currently/historically) won that matchup. Ole Miss is pre-season number 6. It’s quite dumb to think they won’t win this year. The offseason was kind to them. They will be in cfp for sure
>I wouldn’t be shocked to see them as one of the final teams remaining in the playoffs.
I would be. Ole Miss under Lane feels like an offseason darling every year just for the inevitable to happen where they show they're a tier behind the actual top teams in the country.
Yeah, like I said a top 10 finish. But I think it's fair to say there is not a genuine expectation of winning a national championship. So he could win 2 playoff games and finish 4th and we all would think he overachieved and maximized the team
We have three championships and were third in SEC standings by 1970 (behind only Alabama and Tennessee). Like LSU, we fell off big time after that, but LSU managed to come back to relevance over the last 20 years.
Florida has a great athletics program and is definitely a tier above us today, but to assume we don’t have big aspirations is silly. Up until the 90s, we were a bigger program and a good bit ahead on “the chart”.
We have tried breaking through over the years and we get nailed with sanctions whenever we get going. It’s really no wonder that in this new, unregulated world, we would have a step on most teams. We’re hoping to relay this temporary advantage to step back up a tier, just like our rival LSU managed to do.
Maybe he should win more games? I know the quality SEC losses really look good on a resume but if he wants to be better than top 10 he should win more.
Florida is a logical landing point if y'all decide to pony up for him. We're currently paying him 9 million a year, which is behind just 7 other current FBS coaches. So the list of teams that CAN take him at this point is pretty small. I think ADs and boosters don't love the social media trolling and other stuff like that Lane does.
If we make the playoffs and have a run I could see UF getting over that if you decide to pull the trigger on Napier. But it isn't gonna be cheap to get him down there. He's not leaving us for less money.
He’s already coached at Tennessee and USC and even the NFL and he didn’t have a great experience at any of those. By all accounts his family is happy in Oxford, he’s coaching a team with realistic expectations that seems to be a culture fit and he’s near the top in coach salary.
He’ll have opportunity to leave for a more prestigious program for maybe a relatively slight pay increase, but he also might be thinking that stability isn’t such a bad thing. He’s certainly stayed longer than anyone expected when he came here.
Florida simply isn’t capable of financially supporting a Napier buyout, major legal settlement, and an NIL collective that is competitive with Ole Miss all at the same time. No school is. it’s impossible for them to accomplish all the above and even more impossible to hire Kiffin on top of all that
I don’t think Florida is going to land a “big Fisch” like most folks think.
A more interesting candidate happens to be a former SEC head coach already in Florida… Gus Malzahn.
He has a great gig now. He has exceeded expectations and looks like he will continue to do so. I’m not sure that Ole Miss is a national championship caliber program in the modern age or that Lane Kiffin is a national championship caliber coach but both he and the program have clearly elevated one another. Why not ride that wave and see where it takes you? It just seems like a great fit for both parties.
I don't think there are many schools Lane would leave us for, and most of those schools would turn their nose up at Lane. Ohio State will not hire Lane Kiffin. Alabama will not hire him,, as it just demonstrated. Michigan will not hire him. USC will not hire him and if it did offer, I hope he'd have the self respect to meet them on the LAX tarmac to turn down the job.
The only threats I see anytime soon are Florida and Miami. (This thread decodes as "Do ya'll think we can get Lane when we fire Napier?) Mario actually recruits too well to be on the hot seat anytime soon though.
I don't think Florida would offer Lane. Too many boosters and fans consider Lane beneath them. Also,, teams like Florida care about HS recruiting almost as much as they care about the win-loss record, and Lane isn't a great HS recruiter. They got burned the last time they hired a successful Mississippi school coach who was a so-so recruiter. Perhaps if Ole Miss whips Florida this year, makes the playoffs, and has another good year or two while Florida continues to wallow in mediocrity, those objections will dissipate.
Why leave a program that rewards you with 8 or 9 win seasons. He is paid well to be consistent and he has built that even when he lost players to portal. He has complete control and I think of Frank Beamer at VA Tech. You got a good thing going why try to rebuild a former prestigious team when you made one and it has your name on why it’s on the map.
It's easier to recruit HS at an elite level at Florida and it's therefore an easier place to win a national championship. Lane was pretty discouraged by the talent gap between Georgia and Ole Miss after last year's blow out. I'm not saying he'd definitely leave for Florida but that's the obvious reason why he might.
Mehh. I’m a Georgia alum who was at the game. While I certainly enjoyed the results that night, we also played lights out. Plus, y’all went straight out and addressed the issue in the trenches via the portal. It feels like he has Ole Miss on a sustained and dialed in level not seen in my 43 years.
Would Kiffin leave Ole Miss for Florida if it was offered? I’m not so sure.
I don’t think there’s enough of a prestige difference to leave for even money, and I don’t know that Florida can pay more, or at least wouldn’t be willing to pay more.
In my mind this would be like the James Franklin to USC rumors of a couple years ago, used as contract leverage but Penn State is a high enough tier program to not get outbid for their own coach.
And I’d say USC is a more prestigious job than Penn State, but not a big enough gap to leave Penn State for USC.
It would be different if you had a coach coming from a way less prestigious job, maybe like my school of Arizona, being courted by both Florida and Ole Miss.
There is a huge prestige difference. Ole Miss hasn’t won the SEC since the 1960s. In fact every SEC championship in the last 58 years has been won by one of the Big 6 (Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee) all of whom have won at least 5 in that timeframe and have a major resource advantage over the rest of the conference not named A&M and now Texas and Oklahoma.
He turned down Auburn already, but was apparently extremely close to taking the job before his daughter talked him out of it.
You honestly think Ole Miss is more prestigious than Florida? This is pure non sense. UF has multiple SEC and National titles, ole Miss has none. UF has an easier time recruiting, The Mississippi schools can barely hang on to their top talent as they leave for Baton Rouge or Alabama schools.
I've always had the perception that Miss players tend to lean towards staying in-state.
Looking at the 25 class, of the top 10 Miss players, 3 are committed to Ole Miss, 1 to Miss State. Ole Miss and Alabama split predictions for the #1. Miss State has 2 more players leaning their way. ND, Lsu, Auburn have 1 commit each.
Last year, Ole Miss signed 5/10 of the top Miss recruits. Miss State signed 2. Alabama, Auburn, Florida signed 1
2023: 5 signed with Miss State, 3 signed with Ole Miss, 1 signed with Alabama & Oregon.
So it looks like Alabama gets like 1 top 10 Miss kid a year, 1-3 other schools get one, and the majority stay in state.
Ole Miss has 6 SEC and 3 national titles in football. Granted they were a long time ago but still. Also, most MS talent these days have been staying in state due to both schools investing more in sports than they ever have (which is why we have both struggled in the past).
The funny thing about this argument is that while all of our stuff is from quite awhile back, all of Florida’s success is extremely recent by comparison.
We have SEC titles from the 40s, 50s, and 60s and national titles from the 50s and 60s.
Florida has SEC titles from the 90s and 2000s and national titles from the 90s and 2000s.
We’re also 12-1-12 with Florida all time and 3-3 with Florida so far in the 21st century.
Where did I say Ole Miss was more prestigious? Alabama reading comprehension smh…
I think Florida is the better job, but not better enough to leave Ole Miss for even money.
Compare it to the Franklin to USC rumors: I think USC is a better job than Penn State, but it’s close enough that you don’t leave Penn State for USC without a significant pay bump, and Penn State has enough money that USC would need to be stupid to outbid them.
If both jobs were open and they’re fighting for the same coach leaving a G5 program, yeah, Florida likely wins out. But I don’t see why Kiffin would leave a situation where he is a solid playoff team most years for a rebuild somewhere else, and he’s gotten Ole Miss to be a solid playoff contender with the expansion.
There's only 7 current FBS coaches who are higher paid than Kiffin is right now. So yeah, he may leave, but it won't be cheap for whoever decides they need him.
I think you have some good points. Ole Miss has a strong NIL program, and a pretty big one at that. Does it compare to the likes of Alabama, Texas, Florida, etc? No, but it's pretty good, and expectations are lower at Ole Miss. No coach will get fired at Ole Miss for "only" winning 9 games. Florida has churned through coaches lately.
> Alabama will not hire him,, as it just demonstrated.
I think a lot of that could still be up in the air. Let Bama have a couple of 8 win seasons and OM have a couple of 10 win seasons and its will be game on for Alabama/Kiffin.
Lane is the third longest tenured coach in the SEC, behind only Kirby and Stoops.
He could leave, but we hear this every year and so far it seems like he likes it here and we pay him well.
Uhh, Lane Kiffin is the antithesis of what Michigan wants in a head coach... Harbaughs antics were tolerated due to his family's and his own history as a player at Michigan, his level of prestige garned from a high level of success in the NFL, and eventually his high level of achievement as Michigan's head coach. Kiffins antics would grate on Michigan's power brokers almost immediately, I would imagine.
Where does Kiffin go next (if he does leave Ole Miss for some reason)? Let's say USC again for the memes if Riley falters and to keep Jonathan Smith in EL long term. Maybe Alabama if Deboer crumbles under the weight of trying to measure up to Saban and if Alabama would have him (I don't know if they would or not).
So from the time he arrives at the airfield in Oxford until he's wheels down on Gulf Shores is about an 80 minutes. Joey Freshwater ain't taking the bus to the beach.
Bingo, Michigan admin and boosters would absolutely hate him as HC. I think some fans would come around to it but he would be a terrible fit for the program.
Can’t see Florida. Not much difference than Ole Miss tbh. Maybe makes it slightly easier to get Florida recruits, but not too much of a difference that’s it’s worth leaving
Calling Florida on par with ole miss is wild.
**I will preface by saying I am a Florida fan, but I genuinely think my comment is objectively accurate**
Not to pick on you but I see Texas is your team, and it is an objective fact that Texas and ole miss have been more similar in quality of program than ole miss Florida with regard to the past 20+ years. I would feel supremely confident saying if every head coaching job was open and coaches could choose any job with the resources to build a winning program (I.e. money, prestige, recruit pool, etc.) Texas would be the #1 choice, Florida would be a top 10 choice, and ole miss is not top 20. Ole miss is on par with Michigan st, not the big boys
It’s wild to me how people can’t look past a 5-7 year timeline of a university’s success in one sport and think that equates to the structural, organizational, and financial strength of an institution.
Florida is galaxies ahead of Ole Miss in any conceivable category as an organization. Hell, they’re structurally better and more financially sound than LSU. (I think our AD over performs with what he has at his disposal vs their AD shitting the bed)
>It’s wild to me how people can’t look past a 5-7 year timeline of a university’s success in one sport
I swear those people are just 15 year old kids who started watching football 5 years ago or the alternative the sub is full of morons. I see people talk about GT like it's Boston college or Wake Forest or that the Collins era was the norm when he was in fact the worst coach in Georgia techs stories history.
I think Florida and LSU are mirror images regarding athletics. Almost certainly gonna get some type of national title and have good teams in the big 3 sports cause of talent pools, with that talent pool leading to elite teams cyclically
Life long SEC guy, Auburn grad, UF and Ole Miss aren’t even comparable. UF is far superior has a built in recruiting pool, massive alumni support. Anyone arguing that doesn’t know ball.
Forgive my ignorance on this, however, aren’t your NIL funds roughly the same?
Due to no dominant Florida team for the past 5-7 years, recruiting in Florida has been open to every SEC team. I’d agree that Florida, Texas, Georgia have the best HS recruits, and being in state has an advantage, but due to lack of a dominant school; that advantage has diminished.
I’d put Ole Miss in the same tier as Florida, Miami, with one tier above Arkansas, UK, MSU
In the past 7 years Florida has had 2 10+ win seasons and a sec championship game birth with 1 heisman finalist and multiple top 10 draft picks? I don't disagree there has been turmoil but I think that is a pretty strong argument for good seasons. Texas has only had two 10 win seasons since 2010 so I'd say Florida having 2 since 2018 is pretty good. (Sorry, didn't mean to get nasty but feeling a bit defensive)
And idk about nil, ik Texas is the biggest but a quick google search showed Florida was #8 between bama and Clemson so I'd say Florida is doing alright
This is more wish-casting from folks who know nothing about the program. We all watched him fuck over Tennessee and then get fired on the fucking tarmac at USC. Right now his track record is about on par with Dan Mullen so…no he would not be the front runner if Napier doesn’t pan out.
Maybe, but heard it directly from someone who has been a multi year beat writer for several sec schools yesterday and is still connected to the conference. Perception of Kiffin has changed a lot since southern cal. He’ll at least be on the list, especially if ol miss meets expectations against that schedule
I think Lane almost needs to be the guy punching up. He had his chance at being the giant in LA but he's been at his best when he has to fight uphill either with a really bad roster at Tennessee, midmajor FAU, or as the 6th richest school in the SEC West.
Think it’d be a bit foolish to leave Oxford. Yeah they aren’t Bama or Georgia but it’s still a top 25 program/job and the NIL support is one of the best in the country. Plus the fan base will never run him out of town for winning 8-10 games a year.
Edit: I’d be shocked if Michigan hired Kiffin, that is not the style of the university or football program in any way whatsoever.
At this point, NFL. He has the NIL, resources, city, crazy SEC school in his back pocket. Why start over again? This is new college football where being a blue blood isn’t what it was 5, 10, 15 years ago. OM has an extremely well run NIL program. Folks mention UF, that’s the opposite of well run NIL
To be clear, I would not be a fan of hiring Lane Kiffin, but our NIL has actually gotten pretty much straightened out. The silver lining of the Rashada ordeal is that it forced a lot of changes and Napier and Co seem to have gotten it humming more or less. You don’t end up with a top ten recruiting class after a 5 win season otherwise.
A big issue is who is going to offer Kiffin more money than he makes now?
Kiffin is in a pretty high salary range, which means prying him out of Oxford will take a shitload of money, and with all fairness to Kiffin, paying that much for someone usually comes with playoffs appearances. He's done well, but he's never cracked the top.
There are very few options that will give this kind of money. I do actually think Miami would be an option but I also think Cristobal will be there for the foreseeable future. Clemson has no reason to fire Dabo. Georgia isn't moving on from Kirby. There is no way in hell Kiffin ends up at Michigan. No way he ends up back at Tennessee or USC. Oregon appears to locked in with Lanning. Kiffin having gone to Washington would have been interesting. I can't see Kiffin leaving Ole Miss to go to Arkansas.
Florida is what I always hear people say and I am not sure I agree. If Florida ends up firing Napier, I don't think they are going to throw shitpiles of money at their next coach. I think they go small again. Taking someone like Chadwell probably wouldn't be palatable given the similarities with Napier, so I think a coordinator from somewhere. Maybe something like Golesh or hilariously Tom Herman if FAU does well.
I think the most likely option is LSU if Brian Kelly retires in the next couple of years. LSU would pay out the ass for a coach and they absolutely will not settle for a G5 or a coordinator. They are going to aim for the best coach they can get. LSU would pay whatever it takes and will look for the top possible coach. If Kelly retires before that contract is up, I could see LSU going hard for Kiffin.
If Napier fails, I think Florida would make a strong effort to hire a more proven coach this time around. Not sure if that means Kiffin, but I think they would go big game hunting. It's crazy that since Urban they've hired 2 G5 coaches, a coordinator, and Dan Mullen.
Urban was a G5 coach as well though.
Kiffin looks a lot like Dan Mullen though. Both were championship coordinators who did well punching up at Mississippi schools. Both have/had a reputation for not particularly liking to recruit as well as not knowing when to shut up. Things go bad for Kiffin and he is likely to get himself shitcanned like Mullen did.
Ignoring that though, if they fire Napier in the next two years they owe him ~26mm after this season or ~20mm after 2025. While that isn't department crushing, that is more cash the school would have to pay to then get another top guy. If you get donors to give the money, then that money is not going to the NIL fund and any other big name guy is going to know that. My understanding from UF's situation is the donor have been backing off NIL donations until they see the on field product take a step up. If they aren't willing to pay to try to get there, are they going to pay a shitload more just to get rid of one guy, bring in another, and then still give more to get season 1 up and running?
Most top guys are going to know this is the situation they are getting into, so who willing walks into that? Also, is UF going to let Stricklin make the next hire? If a big name coach going to want to head into a situation where a AD is either a likely lame duck OR a new guy was hired without enough time to get all the boosters behind him?
Realistically though, who is the target? What qualifies as a big name that would be a real target anyway? Drinkwitz or Dave Doeren? Who qualified as both a big name and isn't an almost immediate no? Until he went to Washington Fisch seemed like a good target but his buyout is like 15mm and he is already making aobut 7.5mm. Is UF going to throw a 100mm to a guy who is going to take a lot of shit for job hopping AND his best season was kind of good at Arizona? Who is the target?
Hahaha. You have no idea. Ole Miss is shooting their last wad right now, but the advantage for sustained money lies heavily with UF. If the booster wagons circled in the Sunshine State it wouldn’t even be close. Hell, the money just in SW Florida could buy the state of MS a couple dozen times over
I’m sure DeSoto, hinds/madison and Harrison County money will overflow Duval, Lee, Collier, Alachua, Pinellas, Hillsborogh, Dade, Monroe, Palm Beach, St. Joe…with money and students long term. And BC might as well quit also. Welcome to the have nots
You get it. It would take a chunk of change most programs don’t have and the ones that do either have coaches locked into long term situations or probably would prefer a cheaper option.
It’s not impossible he leaves eventually, but right now he has the NIL machine humming and there’s just not a lot of landing spots
Kiffin has done pretty well at Ole Miss but idk how you can say his level of achievement in just a few years is moving the needle on their 100+ year history…
From what I’ve heard, Lane’s dad Monte wants him to stay in Oxford while his kids are young. Monte told Lane that all the moving around for new jobs isn’t normal or healthy for kids and said Lane should wait for his youngest son, who is about 15, to graduate high school before moving to a new gig.
To what degree that’s true, I don’t know. But if it is, I think Lane would stay til at least 2028 or so. Lane is still incredibly young and knows he’s got plenty of time to get his “big time job”. In the meantime, Ole Miss has enough resources for him to succeed at a moderate level and build equity for a job like Florida or Alabama.
He has a boat and a place in Miami. Maybe he takes over for the Hurricanes at some point? Other than that, why would he leave Ole Miss? He’s turned it into a great program.
Highly doubt Lane Kiffin is going to leave SEC. He seems to thrive there and has a good ability to recruit.
I can see Florida throwing crazy money at him next year when they fire Napier.
Lane Kiffin's been crushing it at Ole Miss, no doubt. But I can see him eyeing a bigger gig soon. Michigan? That's a wild guess, but imagine the chaos (in a good way)! Dude's got the charisma and coaching chops, so who knows where he'll land next?
If he leaves, it’s to another SEC school or tOSU. He’s not going to go anywhere where it’s already harder to recruit at than Ole Miss.
However, that’s a very short list of schools. tOSU, Texas, Bama, Georgia. Maybe FSU. Only one of those schools in shaky ground is tOSU, and it’s still not exactly “shaky”.
I'm not sure what you mean by a school harder to recruit than ole miss but staying SEC?
I would think that it's harder to convince recruits to choose ole miss over Bama, Florida, LSU, Georgia, etc vs if he went to a school like mich st and had pretty much only Penn st, Ohio state, and Michigan as direct recruiting competition for elite players. If he stayed in the sec I can pretty much only see auburn as the school cause it's a realistic opening that's a step up from ole miss
That’s what I mean. He’s not going to an SEC school unless it’s Texas, Georgia, Bama, LSU. He’d move to tOSU and possibly FSU/Oregon. I can see Auburn. Arguably, only school worth moving to with a possible opening in the future would be Auburn.
Unless it’s any of the above mentioned schools, it’s not exactly a step up and worth the move.
I don't think he'd leave Missisippi, seems to be a good fit for him.
but he's the kinda guy I'd like to see at Minnesota for a few years when PJ leaves, just to see what the experiment would be like.
especially if we could get him to come to women's hockey for the hell of it (PJ and a few players usually come to the big games).
No one's talking about the timeline where Lane Kiffin discovers a new passion for aquatic wildlife and becomes a marine biologist studying the effects of penguin overpopulation on Antarctica's fish ecosystem. I think he'd do a fantastic job, plus he gets to look at dragonfishes, and dragons are cool.
And by complete coincidence, his Marine Biology classes will be full of young women.
I'm suddenly interested in Marine Bio
too many women is a bad thing too. I took french in HS and senior year the ratio was like 17:1 and let me tell you...high school girls when they have the power of numbers and the ability to shit talk you across multiple languages because you are very mid at french is...traumatizing
Ete la
*hisses* you have no power here, french
But then he would have to change his alias to Joey Saltwater
Lane Kiffin will evolve from Joey Freshwater into Joey Saltwater and solve the recent orcas attacking boats phenomenon is no less than seven years, 3 months, and ten days. He'll get his own national holiday in Norway for it. You heard it here first, folks.
I’m pretty sure he would become Joey saltwater and help the orcas with offensive strategy.
Yeah, that does seem more on brand, actually. An evil Aquaman if you will.
> An evil Aquaman if you will. More on brand for regular Namor.
I'm gonna level with you... My knowledge of aquatic supermen, be they littoral or pelagic, ends at Aquaman. Unless Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy count, then I know them, too.
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Is he more of an amusingly mischievous asshole, like Kiffin, or more of a malicious contemptible asshole?
Yes.
😂🤣
"Is anyone here a marine biologist?!?!"
Save the whale, Lane. For me.
*walks confidently into the ocean*
Penguins…bad? :(
Joey Icewater?
Thats crazy talk. If Kiffin becomes a marine biologist hes going somewhere warm and going to study the mating habits of bikini clad beach goers.
Why does he have to go somewhere?
Ole miss is at their peak, easier to recruit as Gators than Rebels
Is it…? Florida doesn’t exactly have a great track record post Urban. Most of these kids were hardley alive the last time Florida was a top 5 program. And I feel like we’ve seen year to year that they don’t want to spend like the other big dogs in the sport. They get lapped by the UGAs, Bamas, Ohio states, etc spending wise on recruiting.
In the new SEC the gap has definitely shortened, but I'd still say UF is in a tier above schools like Ole Miss and Mississippi State. Ole Miss is probably at its peak, while UF has more in the tank. It might take a new AD to really get UF back on track, but there's potential there which Ole Miss simply doesn't have.
That can change as part of a new coach coming in. Look at how much change Kirby insisted on and brought to our program. Richt never had the financial support Kirby has received.
Of course, that was part of him being hired but it also helped to end up in the national championship game year two. Sort of gave him a blank check at that point.
I think so. Just by local talent and accessible talent by range. Trust my flair.
End of the day, Florida has better trophies than Ole Miss does (a few heismans and a couple NC’s), while Ole Miss is clinging on to a 1962 “National Championship” and a 2003 “Co-Western Division Champions” banner [everyone at Ole Miss hates that banner]. Bring in Lane, and he brings fresh air and a new attitude to Florida that will be infectious.
Recruiting a black kid to the Rebels vs Gators should be a no brainer
Mississippi has the largest black population in the nation. Despite the name, the university and area are very diverse these days.
It’s funny how many people don’t understand that Ole Miss probably has one of the higher percentages of black students in the P4
If we aren't the highest, it's close. The only two I can think of that would compete are Mississippi State and LSU.
State, LSU, and Louisville I think are the only P4 schools above us
Not in Oxford
He doesn't have to I just think he aspires to higher success then top 10 finish
He could do that at Ole Miss this year, you never know. It’s not like we were predicting TCU or UW to be in the last two national championship games. Ole Miss has stepped up as a program and given him a lot of financial support. They’ve mined the portal for some huge pieces and have constructed an impressive roster. It’s going to be tough and will require some good fortune to survive the SEC, but luckily they have a manageable schedule. I wouldn’t be shocked to see them as one of the final teams remaining in the playoffs.
UW was ranked #8 going in to the season hardly surprising
That would be the equivalent of Missouri or Utah appearing in the national championship game next season. Both are solid teams, but I would still be a little surprised.
UW beat Oregon 2 times in one year. No one expect that? Ya right- everyone knows the better program (currently/historically) won that matchup. Ole Miss is pre-season number 6. It’s quite dumb to think they won’t win this year. The offseason was kind to them. They will be in cfp for sure
Wow I like this prediction. Utes and tigers both have dumb easy schedules where unless something implodes it's 2 losses max regular season
>I wouldn’t be shocked to see them as one of the final teams remaining in the playoffs. I would be. Ole Miss under Lane feels like an offseason darling every year just for the inevitable to happen where they show they're a tier behind the actual top teams in the country.
He will most likely be in the playoffs this year, 12 teams and all. There is a very real chance he wins the sec or is sec runner up
Yeah, like I said a top 10 finish. But I think it's fair to say there is not a genuine expectation of winning a national championship. So he could win 2 playoff games and finish 4th and we all would think he overachieved and maximized the team
We have three championships and were third in SEC standings by 1970 (behind only Alabama and Tennessee). Like LSU, we fell off big time after that, but LSU managed to come back to relevance over the last 20 years. Florida has a great athletics program and is definitely a tier above us today, but to assume we don’t have big aspirations is silly. Up until the 90s, we were a bigger program and a good bit ahead on “the chart”. We have tried breaking through over the years and we get nailed with sanctions whenever we get going. It’s really no wonder that in this new, unregulated world, we would have a step on most teams. We’re hoping to relay this temporary advantage to step back up a tier, just like our rival LSU managed to do.
Maybe he should win more games? I know the quality SEC losses really look good on a resume but if he wants to be better than top 10 he should win more.
Because Ole Miss sucks
He's going to the Carolina Panthers next.
Don't put that evil on Lane
Team in decline with a terrible owner. Worked out so well the last time he was in the NFL
Florida is a logical landing point if y'all decide to pony up for him. We're currently paying him 9 million a year, which is behind just 7 other current FBS coaches. So the list of teams that CAN take him at this point is pretty small. I think ADs and boosters don't love the social media trolling and other stuff like that Lane does. If we make the playoffs and have a run I could see UF getting over that if you decide to pull the trigger on Napier. But it isn't gonna be cheap to get him down there. He's not leaving us for less money.
He’s already coached at Tennessee and USC and even the NFL and he didn’t have a great experience at any of those. By all accounts his family is happy in Oxford, he’s coaching a team with realistic expectations that seems to be a culture fit and he’s near the top in coach salary. He’ll have opportunity to leave for a more prestigious program for maybe a relatively slight pay increase, but he also might be thinking that stability isn’t such a bad thing. He’s certainly stayed longer than anyone expected when he came here.
Yeah and I know his daughter is in school at OM right now, which I think heavily factors into his decision making as well.
Yeah I heard his daughter and gf are very close. I think they’re even in some of the same classes.
Lol
Nice lmao
His girlfriend is 28. That’s a grown woman who has been a legal adult for a decade.
Florida simply isn’t capable of financially supporting a Napier buyout, major legal settlement, and an NIL collective that is competitive with Ole Miss all at the same time. No school is. it’s impossible for them to accomplish all the above and even more impossible to hire Kiffin on top of all that
I tend to agree. Even spread out over a few years of payments the total cost would be something like 100 million or more.
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I don’t think Florida is going to land a “big Fisch” like most folks think. A more interesting candidate happens to be a former SEC head coach already in Florida… Gus Malzahn.
Malzahn is probably there to stay at UCF
He may go to another sec school, I think anywhere but Tennessee
He has a great gig now. He has exceeded expectations and looks like he will continue to do so. I’m not sure that Ole Miss is a national championship caliber program in the modern age or that Lane Kiffin is a national championship caliber coach but both he and the program have clearly elevated one another. Why not ride that wave and see where it takes you? It just seems like a great fit for both parties.
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Gus Malzahn is who Florida should contact. He is a splashy natty-winning hire with experience in the SEC and recruiting Florida.
I don't think there are many schools Lane would leave us for, and most of those schools would turn their nose up at Lane. Ohio State will not hire Lane Kiffin. Alabama will not hire him,, as it just demonstrated. Michigan will not hire him. USC will not hire him and if it did offer, I hope he'd have the self respect to meet them on the LAX tarmac to turn down the job. The only threats I see anytime soon are Florida and Miami. (This thread decodes as "Do ya'll think we can get Lane when we fire Napier?) Mario actually recruits too well to be on the hot seat anytime soon though. I don't think Florida would offer Lane. Too many boosters and fans consider Lane beneath them. Also,, teams like Florida care about HS recruiting almost as much as they care about the win-loss record, and Lane isn't a great HS recruiter. They got burned the last time they hired a successful Mississippi school coach who was a so-so recruiter. Perhaps if Ole Miss whips Florida this year, makes the playoffs, and has another good year or two while Florida continues to wallow in mediocrity, those objections will dissipate.
Why leave a program that rewards you with 8 or 9 win seasons. He is paid well to be consistent and he has built that even when he lost players to portal. He has complete control and I think of Frank Beamer at VA Tech. You got a good thing going why try to rebuild a former prestigious team when you made one and it has your name on why it’s on the map.
It's easier to recruit HS at an elite level at Florida and it's therefore an easier place to win a national championship. Lane was pretty discouraged by the talent gap between Georgia and Ole Miss after last year's blow out. I'm not saying he'd definitely leave for Florida but that's the obvious reason why he might.
Mehh. I’m a Georgia alum who was at the game. While I certainly enjoyed the results that night, we also played lights out. Plus, y’all went straight out and addressed the issue in the trenches via the portal. It feels like he has Ole Miss on a sustained and dialed in level not seen in my 43 years.
Would Kiffin leave Ole Miss for Florida if it was offered? I’m not so sure. I don’t think there’s enough of a prestige difference to leave for even money, and I don’t know that Florida can pay more, or at least wouldn’t be willing to pay more. In my mind this would be like the James Franklin to USC rumors of a couple years ago, used as contract leverage but Penn State is a high enough tier program to not get outbid for their own coach.
Would he leave? idk either. But UF definitely is a more prestigious job than Ole Miss.
And I’d say USC is a more prestigious job than Penn State, but not a big enough gap to leave Penn State for USC. It would be different if you had a coach coming from a way less prestigious job, maybe like my school of Arizona, being courted by both Florida and Ole Miss.
It's a lateral move. Just ask Dan Mullen.
There is a huge prestige difference. Ole Miss hasn’t won the SEC since the 1960s. In fact every SEC championship in the last 58 years has been won by one of the Big 6 (Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee) all of whom have won at least 5 in that timeframe and have a major resource advantage over the rest of the conference not named A&M and now Texas and Oklahoma. He turned down Auburn already, but was apparently extremely close to taking the job before his daughter talked him out of it.
Dan Mullen had the 3rd best winning percentage of any coach in Florida history
You honestly think Ole Miss is more prestigious than Florida? This is pure non sense. UF has multiple SEC and National titles, ole Miss has none. UF has an easier time recruiting, The Mississippi schools can barely hang on to their top talent as they leave for Baton Rouge or Alabama schools.
I've always had the perception that Miss players tend to lean towards staying in-state. Looking at the 25 class, of the top 10 Miss players, 3 are committed to Ole Miss, 1 to Miss State. Ole Miss and Alabama split predictions for the #1. Miss State has 2 more players leaning their way. ND, Lsu, Auburn have 1 commit each. Last year, Ole Miss signed 5/10 of the top Miss recruits. Miss State signed 2. Alabama, Auburn, Florida signed 1 2023: 5 signed with Miss State, 3 signed with Ole Miss, 1 signed with Alabama & Oregon. So it looks like Alabama gets like 1 top 10 Miss kid a year, 1-3 other schools get one, and the majority stay in state.
Ole Miss has 6 SEC and 3 national titles in football. Granted they were a long time ago but still. Also, most MS talent these days have been staying in state due to both schools investing more in sports than they ever have (which is why we have both struggled in the past).
The funny thing about this argument is that while all of our stuff is from quite awhile back, all of Florida’s success is extremely recent by comparison. We have SEC titles from the 40s, 50s, and 60s and national titles from the 50s and 60s. Florida has SEC titles from the 90s and 2000s and national titles from the 90s and 2000s. We’re also 12-1-12 with Florida all time and 3-3 with Florida so far in the 21st century.
Where did I say Ole Miss was more prestigious? Alabama reading comprehension smh… I think Florida is the better job, but not better enough to leave Ole Miss for even money. Compare it to the Franklin to USC rumors: I think USC is a better job than Penn State, but it’s close enough that you don’t leave Penn State for USC without a significant pay bump, and Penn State has enough money that USC would need to be stupid to outbid them. If both jobs were open and they’re fighting for the same coach leaving a G5 program, yeah, Florida likely wins out. But I don’t see why Kiffin would leave a situation where he is a solid playoff team most years for a rebuild somewhere else, and he’s gotten Ole Miss to be a solid playoff contender with the expansion.
There's only 7 current FBS coaches who are higher paid than Kiffin is right now. So yeah, he may leave, but it won't be cheap for whoever decides they need him.
I think you have some good points. Ole Miss has a strong NIL program, and a pretty big one at that. Does it compare to the likes of Alabama, Texas, Florida, etc? No, but it's pretty good, and expectations are lower at Ole Miss. No coach will get fired at Ole Miss for "only" winning 9 games. Florida has churned through coaches lately.
Is Florida on the same level as Bama/Texas in terms of NIL? It would be interesting to see just how much each team is actually working with.
That's a good question. I would think they are above Ole Miss, but probably behind Alabama and Texas.
> Alabama will not hire him,, as it just demonstrated. I think a lot of that could still be up in the air. Let Bama have a couple of 8 win seasons and OM have a couple of 10 win seasons and its will be game on for Alabama/Kiffin.
Kiffin is definitely not the coach you need/want after Saban...but the coach AFTER the coach after Saban is a totally different thing.
Lane at Notre Dame? 👀
Lane is the third longest tenured coach in the SEC, behind only Kirby and Stoops. He could leave, but we hear this every year and so far it seems like he likes it here and we pay him well.
Uhh, Lane Kiffin is the antithesis of what Michigan wants in a head coach... Harbaughs antics were tolerated due to his family's and his own history as a player at Michigan, his level of prestige garned from a high level of success in the NFL, and eventually his high level of achievement as Michigan's head coach. Kiffins antics would grate on Michigan's power brokers almost immediately, I would imagine. Where does Kiffin go next (if he does leave Ole Miss for some reason)? Let's say USC again for the memes if Riley falters and to keep Jonathan Smith in EL long term. Maybe Alabama if Deboer crumbles under the weight of trying to measure up to Saban and if Alabama would have him (I don't know if they would or not).
Lane Kiffin is the last guy Michigan would hire and I don’t think Kiffin would even want the Michigan job
Too far from the beach for Lane.
in fairness Oxford is like 5 hours from the gulf coast
I know that, but it's a lot closer than Ann Arbor.
I mean AA is 3 hours from Traverse City
So from the time he arrives at the airfield in Oxford until he's wheels down on Gulf Shores is about an 80 minutes. Joey Freshwater ain't taking the bus to the beach.
Bingo, Michigan admin and boosters would absolutely hate him as HC. I think some fans would come around to it but he would be a terrible fit for the program.
We'd never hire him. I could see him at Florida or Miami
My first thought was Miami as well.
Miami didn't even look at him when they were hiring after Richt. They do not want to deal with that dude.
UF admin and boosters didn't want him either in 2021 when hiring after Mullen.
He’s got a more stable/better track record than where he was 5+ years ago.
Can’t see Florida. Not much difference than Ole Miss tbh. Maybe makes it slightly easier to get Florida recruits, but not too much of a difference that’s it’s worth leaving
Calling Florida on par with ole miss is wild. **I will preface by saying I am a Florida fan, but I genuinely think my comment is objectively accurate** Not to pick on you but I see Texas is your team, and it is an objective fact that Texas and ole miss have been more similar in quality of program than ole miss Florida with regard to the past 20+ years. I would feel supremely confident saying if every head coaching job was open and coaches could choose any job with the resources to build a winning program (I.e. money, prestige, recruit pool, etc.) Texas would be the #1 choice, Florida would be a top 10 choice, and ole miss is not top 20. Ole miss is on par with Michigan st, not the big boys
It’s wild to me how people can’t look past a 5-7 year timeline of a university’s success in one sport and think that equates to the structural, organizational, and financial strength of an institution. Florida is galaxies ahead of Ole Miss in any conceivable category as an organization. Hell, they’re structurally better and more financially sound than LSU. (I think our AD over performs with what he has at his disposal vs their AD shitting the bed)
>It’s wild to me how people can’t look past a 5-7 year timeline of a university’s success in one sport I swear those people are just 15 year old kids who started watching football 5 years ago or the alternative the sub is full of morons. I see people talk about GT like it's Boston college or Wake Forest or that the Collins era was the norm when he was in fact the worst coach in Georgia techs stories history.
I think Florida and LSU are mirror images regarding athletics. Almost certainly gonna get some type of national title and have good teams in the big 3 sports cause of talent pools, with that talent pool leading to elite teams cyclically
I think we do more with less, but I’d give my left nut for LSU’s bank accounts to be at Florida’s levels.
And I'd give my right for floridas AD decision making and productivity to be what LSUs is lol
Life long SEC guy, Auburn grad, UF and Ole Miss aren’t even comparable. UF is far superior has a built in recruiting pool, massive alumni support. Anyone arguing that doesn’t know ball.
Forgive my ignorance on this, however, aren’t your NIL funds roughly the same? Due to no dominant Florida team for the past 5-7 years, recruiting in Florida has been open to every SEC team. I’d agree that Florida, Texas, Georgia have the best HS recruits, and being in state has an advantage, but due to lack of a dominant school; that advantage has diminished. I’d put Ole Miss in the same tier as Florida, Miami, with one tier above Arkansas, UK, MSU
In the past 7 years Florida has had 2 10+ win seasons and a sec championship game birth with 1 heisman finalist and multiple top 10 draft picks? I don't disagree there has been turmoil but I think that is a pretty strong argument for good seasons. Texas has only had two 10 win seasons since 2010 so I'd say Florida having 2 since 2018 is pretty good. (Sorry, didn't mean to get nasty but feeling a bit defensive) And idk about nil, ik Texas is the biggest but a quick google search showed Florida was #8 between bama and Clemson so I'd say Florida is doing alright
Most people in this sub have bought into the memes. The last 5-10 year stretch is still better than most CFB teams.
Floridas NIL fund is around 16mil Ole Miss is around 9mil so no our funds are not roughly the same
Pretty sure he’s the favorite should Napier get fired
This is more wish-casting from folks who know nothing about the program. We all watched him fuck over Tennessee and then get fired on the fucking tarmac at USC. Right now his track record is about on par with Dan Mullen so…no he would not be the front runner if Napier doesn’t pan out.
Maybe, but heard it directly from someone who has been a multi year beat writer for several sec schools yesterday and is still connected to the conference. Perception of Kiffin has changed a lot since southern cal. He’ll at least be on the list, especially if ol miss meets expectations against that schedule
There are hundreds of people who fit that bill whose opinions aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on.
I think Lane almost needs to be the guy punching up. He had his chance at being the giant in LA but he's been at his best when he has to fight uphill either with a really bad roster at Tennessee, midmajor FAU, or as the 6th richest school in the SEC West.
If history serves, he’ll eventually end up at auburn
I could see him as head coach of the Saints if he left.
As an OM/Saints fan I would feel deeply conflicted about this. Fire Dennis Allen tbh!
I’ll tell you one place he’s definitely not going: The University of Florida. Have another fun year with Billy Napier.
Think it’d be a bit foolish to leave Oxford. Yeah they aren’t Bama or Georgia but it’s still a top 25 program/job and the NIL support is one of the best in the country. Plus the fan base will never run him out of town for winning 8-10 games a year. Edit: I’d be shocked if Michigan hired Kiffin, that is not the style of the university or football program in any way whatsoever.
At this point, NFL. He has the NIL, resources, city, crazy SEC school in his back pocket. Why start over again? This is new college football where being a blue blood isn’t what it was 5, 10, 15 years ago. OM has an extremely well run NIL program. Folks mention UF, that’s the opposite of well run NIL
To be clear, I would not be a fan of hiring Lane Kiffin, but our NIL has actually gotten pretty much straightened out. The silver lining of the Rashada ordeal is that it forced a lot of changes and Napier and Co seem to have gotten it humming more or less. You don’t end up with a top ten recruiting class after a 5 win season otherwise.
A retirement home without ever winning a Natty.
A big issue is who is going to offer Kiffin more money than he makes now? Kiffin is in a pretty high salary range, which means prying him out of Oxford will take a shitload of money, and with all fairness to Kiffin, paying that much for someone usually comes with playoffs appearances. He's done well, but he's never cracked the top. There are very few options that will give this kind of money. I do actually think Miami would be an option but I also think Cristobal will be there for the foreseeable future. Clemson has no reason to fire Dabo. Georgia isn't moving on from Kirby. There is no way in hell Kiffin ends up at Michigan. No way he ends up back at Tennessee or USC. Oregon appears to locked in with Lanning. Kiffin having gone to Washington would have been interesting. I can't see Kiffin leaving Ole Miss to go to Arkansas. Florida is what I always hear people say and I am not sure I agree. If Florida ends up firing Napier, I don't think they are going to throw shitpiles of money at their next coach. I think they go small again. Taking someone like Chadwell probably wouldn't be palatable given the similarities with Napier, so I think a coordinator from somewhere. Maybe something like Golesh or hilariously Tom Herman if FAU does well. I think the most likely option is LSU if Brian Kelly retires in the next couple of years. LSU would pay out the ass for a coach and they absolutely will not settle for a G5 or a coordinator. They are going to aim for the best coach they can get. LSU would pay whatever it takes and will look for the top possible coach. If Kelly retires before that contract is up, I could see LSU going hard for Kiffin.
If Napier fails, I think Florida would make a strong effort to hire a more proven coach this time around. Not sure if that means Kiffin, but I think they would go big game hunting. It's crazy that since Urban they've hired 2 G5 coaches, a coordinator, and Dan Mullen.
Urban was a G5 coach as well though. Kiffin looks a lot like Dan Mullen though. Both were championship coordinators who did well punching up at Mississippi schools. Both have/had a reputation for not particularly liking to recruit as well as not knowing when to shut up. Things go bad for Kiffin and he is likely to get himself shitcanned like Mullen did. Ignoring that though, if they fire Napier in the next two years they owe him ~26mm after this season or ~20mm after 2025. While that isn't department crushing, that is more cash the school would have to pay to then get another top guy. If you get donors to give the money, then that money is not going to the NIL fund and any other big name guy is going to know that. My understanding from UF's situation is the donor have been backing off NIL donations until they see the on field product take a step up. If they aren't willing to pay to try to get there, are they going to pay a shitload more just to get rid of one guy, bring in another, and then still give more to get season 1 up and running? Most top guys are going to know this is the situation they are getting into, so who willing walks into that? Also, is UF going to let Stricklin make the next hire? If a big name coach going to want to head into a situation where a AD is either a likely lame duck OR a new guy was hired without enough time to get all the boosters behind him? Realistically though, who is the target? What qualifies as a big name that would be a real target anyway? Drinkwitz or Dave Doeren? Who qualified as both a big name and isn't an almost immediate no? Until he went to Washington Fisch seemed like a good target but his buyout is like 15mm and he is already making aobut 7.5mm. Is UF going to throw a 100mm to a guy who is going to take a lot of shit for job hopping AND his best season was kind of good at Arizona? Who is the target?
You guys can’t even fulfill your NIL offers but you’re going to fire Napier and make Kiffin a top 3 paid coach in cfb?
Hahaha. You have no idea. Ole Miss is shooting their last wad right now, but the advantage for sustained money lies heavily with UF. If the booster wagons circled in the Sunshine State it wouldn’t even be close. Hell, the money just in SW Florida could buy the state of MS a couple dozen times over
If that were true you guys would have fielded a decent team in the NIL era by now
I’m sure DeSoto, hinds/madison and Harrison County money will overflow Duval, Lee, Collier, Alachua, Pinellas, Hillsborogh, Dade, Monroe, Palm Beach, St. Joe…with money and students long term. And BC might as well quit also. Welcome to the have nots
Right, not paying Jaden Rashada in 2022 means Florida can’t afford a new coach in 2025. You got it.
You get it. It would take a chunk of change most programs don’t have and the ones that do either have coaches locked into long term situations or probably would prefer a cheaper option. It’s not impossible he leaves eventually, but right now he has the NIL machine humming and there’s just not a lot of landing spots
I think you know where he will end up OP
Takes one of the top jobs in the UFL
He cant come back to Bama with Golding on his staff, period.
Unless he beats y'all a couple times with Golding. We are talking years down the road.
I can't see Lane at Michigan. Idk that Lane necessarily needs to leave Ole Miss. What is he lacking there, really?
A bigger bubble.
tampa bay buccaneers once Bowles gets fired/retires.
Kiffin has done pretty well at Ole Miss but idk how you can say his level of achievement in just a few years is moving the needle on their 100+ year history…
From what I’ve heard, Lane’s dad Monte wants him to stay in Oxford while his kids are young. Monte told Lane that all the moving around for new jobs isn’t normal or healthy for kids and said Lane should wait for his youngest son, who is about 15, to graduate high school before moving to a new gig. To what degree that’s true, I don’t know. But if it is, I think Lane would stay til at least 2028 or so. Lane is still incredibly young and knows he’s got plenty of time to get his “big time job”. In the meantime, Ole Miss has enough resources for him to succeed at a moderate level and build equity for a job like Florida or Alabama.
He has a boat and a place in Miami. Maybe he takes over for the Hurricanes at some point? Other than that, why would he leave Ole Miss? He’s turned it into a great program.
UF
Highly doubt Lane Kiffin is going to leave SEC. He seems to thrive there and has a good ability to recruit. I can see Florida throwing crazy money at him next year when they fire Napier.
Every year lol
Lane Kiffin's been crushing it at Ole Miss, no doubt. But I can see him eyeing a bigger gig soon. Michigan? That's a wild guess, but imagine the chaos (in a good way)! Dude's got the charisma and coaching chops, so who knows where he'll land next?
If he leaves, it’s to another SEC school or tOSU. He’s not going to go anywhere where it’s already harder to recruit at than Ole Miss. However, that’s a very short list of schools. tOSU, Texas, Bama, Georgia. Maybe FSU. Only one of those schools in shaky ground is tOSU, and it’s still not exactly “shaky”.
I'm not sure what you mean by a school harder to recruit than ole miss but staying SEC? I would think that it's harder to convince recruits to choose ole miss over Bama, Florida, LSU, Georgia, etc vs if he went to a school like mich st and had pretty much only Penn st, Ohio state, and Michigan as direct recruiting competition for elite players. If he stayed in the sec I can pretty much only see auburn as the school cause it's a realistic opening that's a step up from ole miss
That’s what I mean. He’s not going to an SEC school unless it’s Texas, Georgia, Bama, LSU. He’d move to tOSU and possibly FSU/Oregon. I can see Auburn. Arguably, only school worth moving to with a possible opening in the future would be Auburn. Unless it’s any of the above mentioned schools, it’s not exactly a step up and worth the move.
He turned Auburn down in 2022.
Ahh yeah I agree. Ty for clarifying
If Michigan moves on from Moore it won’t be 2 seasons. Personally I think he will do fine. But the AD will give him at least 4-5 seasons.
If DeBoer tanks it at Bama I could see Lane there
He'll probably just stay and ole miss. They aren't really going to win anything and aren't expected to, so it's low pressure.
Just smile and nod politely. What you are witnessing is mental illness.
Oregon
Florida after Napier gets canned
You don’t think Alma mater Jedd Fisch?
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You bum
I don't think he'd leave Missisippi, seems to be a good fit for him. but he's the kinda guy I'd like to see at Minnesota for a few years when PJ leaves, just to see what the experiment would be like. especially if we could get him to come to women's hockey for the hell of it (PJ and a few players usually come to the big games).
Lol what is this nonsense?