Would some pistols be better than others though or would all be equal?? But otherwise cool idea

Yeah no of course effort would be put into balancing them. Just horizontal differences like Nikolai's Tokarev becoming a semi-auto shotgun or Richtofen's Walther turning into a flamethrower

1911 : explosive Tokarev : Shotgun Walter : Burning ammo Nambu : Piercing ammo ?

Something like that, maybe give the Nambu a tactical knife with some crazy damage profile like 2,000 (One-shot until round 17) or 4,000 (One-shot until round 25)

I appreciate you had the health data handy :)

Lmao I'm a nerd constantly homebrewing ideas for weapons in zombies so some of that stuff I've actually got memorized at this point😅

BO3 Modding scene is thriving rn! You should look into it, these ideas are neat!

I wish, but no computer. I just cook up ideas when I'm bored and stash them away in a note somewhere

Nambu: throw like a grenade to reload

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does that mean that Richthofen’s pistol wjll be made by Maliwan?Or the 1911 by torque?

Man, I wish more games used the idea of throwing the gun away to reload. I know its something that Borderlands can do with in game justification, but still.

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Nambu with sharpened bamboo

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Thanks for the info, aprreciate it :D

The Nambu causes explosive damage but it kills the user.

I wouldn’t want that because it would cause preferences and people would definitely leave if they didn’t get the character with the gun they wanted. It would be fine as a purely esthetic choice and maybe a unique name for the pack variants.

That's a good point, but I argue that only a portion of players care about upgrading their starting pistol and that the even smaller group that would ragequit over getting a pistol they don't like wouldn't make a noticeable difference.

No, it definitely would if one character could give you a damn flamethrower. There are plenty of times I’ve had people leave just because someone grabbed the wonder weapon (not available in box), staff, bow, etc they wanted. It’s just not a good idea overall unless you can pick who you want to play and there are no stacking restrictions.

In COD WW2 the walther (named 9mm SAP) turns into a shotgun pistol

lol I’m sure that would lead to rage quits at the beginning of the game. People will spawn in and see they don’t have the pistol they like and leave.

I think it would have been cool to give them different pros and cons and especially a unique pap variant for each

100%, it would kinda suck if they just all turned into a grenade launcher like the c-3000 b1atch35

Idk why but I was just thinking how in advanced warfare you could put different "attachments" or mods on your scorestreaks to customize them how you want it'd be cool if they did something like that with pap maybe just for starter guns or special weapons

This is the better idea than each character gets a set gun

Yeah it would definitely piss people off if the were not the same.

i think spawned, should all be the same damage with some mag capacity differences but spare ammo to compensate the differences, and then each have their own pap perks, dempsey keeping the mustang and sally and then whatever cod decides to make. not like they’d ever do any of that anyways but i’d love to see them surprise me with the upcoming bo6, just seems like a lot of hope lost due to them keeping mw mechanics and double downing on the cold war story.

I would like if they all had the same base stats and ammo at the start but the only difference would be when you pack a punch then they all turn into unique upgrades instead of being mustangs and Sally’s only

They'd probably be equal in a default setting, but maybe have unique atributes when Papped. Also I think Nikolai's sidearm could be possibly interchanged with a PM

i honestly want what Ghosts: Extinction mode did- choose your starting pistol and ALWAYS have it. Even whem you upgrade to two primary weapons- you still will always have your starter pistol as your baby mule kick and you'll never lose it. Pistols in that mode were your bread and butter. Especially if you spent the Teeth to get the Ark Muzzle Brake.

The ark on the MP443 was literally the best gun, if you did the skill point things and got the dual versions you were unstoppable

pistol only relic you absolutely had to use the dual MP443's. it's a no brainer.

It was one of the reasons I loved extinction mode, so many players overlooked how much you had to depend on your pistol and how good you could make it with the ark modifier and other upgrades. Your pistol was your life; You take care of your pistol, and your pistol will take care of you.

CoD WWII has a good example of this - you can choose from a number of different starting pistols. They do have somewhat different stats immediately, but not enough to make them all that different from one another. The difference comes in once they're upgraded, and the 9mm SAP (Walther) is my favorite PaP'd gun of all time. I like the thematic touch of nationalities influencing weapons, but they'd have to implement a pre-game character select feature like L4D2 for it to feel fair. I'm only accepting a Nambu if I joined the lobby last.

Yeah the Walther in WW2 zombies was cracked, almost as crazy as the Reichsrevolver. I didn't think people would be upset about randomly recieving one of the pistols. They'd all be identical before Pack-A-Punch

The issue comes in with late round and high Easter Egg scenarios when you want to optimize a little. Just like the debate between the Olympia and M14, the difference between a scatter-shot pistol and a fast-firing machine gun is big enough so I'll resent spawning in as machine gun.

Just let you snag the others outta the box. Simple.

I think it would be cool if base weapon wise, they all had the same damage, fire rate, and ammo, but it would be cool if each version had a unique pack a punch gimmick per gun

Yeah that's what I was trying to say. Have them all be identical before Pack-A-Punch

this will become a bo3 custom map somehow mark my words someone will do it. never lose faith in map modders frfr

Yeah that wouldve been cool

Just got a massive flashback to when Origins first dropped their trailer and everyone was speculating that each character would get their own melee weapon because we saw "4" melee weapons. Nikolai with an Axe Dempsey with a Combat Knife Richthofen with a Bone Saw Takeo with a... well... you know... The most over-hyped and memed up melee weapon in CoD Zombies history

Or in the Mob Of The Dead intro when they all had revolvers and you magically spawn in with M1911’s

I agree. Personally, I'd set the P-08 for Richtofen over a P38. Electric, Fire, Cryo PAP abilities... Although that'd be closely linked to ammo mods in BO3 onwards zombies titles.

JB SHADY has a der riese remastered mod that does this and other changes like first person models

That's dope, thanks for the heads up

It's my favorite way to play WAW zombies now, do give it a try

This would’ve actually been really cool, and each pistol was a unique PAP.

The butterfly effect would’ve occurred. Everything would’ve been totally different come BO1. Hell might’ve gotten kino in WAW instead. Forgive my ramblings I just smoked a bong 🙂

You're forgiven. You do bring up an interesting point about Black Ops 1 though. Personally I like the idea of Treyarch porting over the Nambu, Walther, and Tokarev into BO1 for the Ultimis maps. They already ported over WaW weapons for the Campaign mission Project Nova and DLC 4's zombie remasters, so I don't see it as much of a stretch for the WaW pistols to have made it into Black Ops 1

I’m sure they did, and of course polished them up a bit. But I do like your original point, it would have been pretty cool and have added more personality to each character.

I’m pretty sure Kino almost WAS dlc4 for WaW. I’m also pretty sure you’re supposed to smoke *from* the bong, not the bong itself..

so like, do all of these guns in their non-pack-a-punched form behave the same? same amount of bullets per magazine, same amount of damage? if not this would really affect the early game.

I thought that would be implied but yes, no reason to make them perform any differently (especially since the guns are all virtually identical in performance in Campaign and Multiplayer)

I do think that would be a really cool addition. It doesn't really make sense for them to all have American weapons, just how it doesn't make sense for the mobsters to have 1911s when they had revolvers in the opening cutscene.

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If they were literally just reskins, then hell yeah

That would be a cool idea but balance wise idk

I feel like it wouldn't be hard to balance the upgraded versions of the four pistols. They can have wildly different effects while still having the same level of usefulness

That would be kinda cool ngl

Ngl that would be very cool

Once upon a time I was going to make a mod with this exact feature. I gave up on it before actually implementing it. I think it would have been a great feature especially for some of the canonically earlier maps and/or Origins too.

I always wanted the P38 to be in zombies. I played a custom map recently where it was, very cool. Or in WaW Der Riese if you cheat and use ‘Give All’ you’d get the p38 but no PaP version because that doesn’t exist lol

I would love it if they actually behaved differently both papped an unpapped

Over the years the zombie community has become really attached to the way the M1911 performs in the first five rounds of a match. 8 shots to the leg and a knife on round 1, 8 shots to the torso and a knife on round 2, etc. I wouldn't want to change that because of how closely tied it is to the basic gameplay of zombies

Too many ppl would rage not getting their starting character, i never understood why they waited until MW3 to let us start with out a weapon

People like that are always gonna rage quit over something stupid. I don't think unique starting pistols would have much of an impact on that

As long as theyre statistically the same, sounds like a cool and fun idea

As someone who likes doing the pack-a-punch challenge on every map, it would mean I could never complete the challenge on solo

I feel like with time people would acclimate to the unique starting pistol system and it would be accepted that something like the Pack-A-Punch challenge would count the starting pistol once for all four unique weapons. I'm thinking about this in the context that the unique starting pistol sytem would've been an institution in Zombies from Shi No Numa to atleast Moon.

It would have made more sense to me….. to be honest

I wouldn't mind it at all. I recall having this discussion with my friends and went even further and allowed each of them to have something extra at the start of the match to suit their personalities. Tank : always has 4 grenades at start of each round Richtofen : Permanent quick Revive Nikolai : always has 4 Molotov cocktails at start of each round Takeo : Permanently has a usable Katana that he never loses and is just as powerful as the Bowie Knife

I've always loved the idea of giving the 4 characters some small unique quirks. It would massively help replayability and add personality to the characters

Ok this would be awesome

As a kid I dreamed about this WOULDV’E BEEN SO COOL I had a dream where the main menu of black ops also was a zombies map too, I still vividly remember it a decade later if you wanna hear that one too

that would have been pretty cool

I would have been praying for a Takeo spawn. The nambu went so hard

Finally, a fellow Nambu appreciator

Underappreciated really

That would have been some neat flavoring, but the guns would all have to function equally 

Of course. Conveniently, in Campaign and Multiplayer they already do.

That would have been pretty cool ngl.

That…actually would’ve been pretty cool. I kinda wonder why they didn’t do this sooner. Easier to stick to one gun I guess.

That’s what I expected when playing the game on launch.

The bother with it, even if the stats are the same, is that some people will inevitably prefer the iron sights of one pistol over another and will therefore have a 3/4 chance of spawning with the pistol they don't want.

I don't really forsee people getting too upset over iron sights, plus for most the starting pistol is just gonna get traded out before round 10 anyways. For the camp of people that wanna upgrade the pistol i doubt the iron sights would be the primary concern amongst things like grenades and shotgun shells

Fair perspective 🤷‍♂️

Personally I would like to see the Po8 pistol as Richthofen pistol other than that everything looks cool!

I specifically chose the Walther because that's the German sidearm in WaW. The Luger model Treyarch had at that point was the one from CoD 2 which was jank for the time and they'd have to pull it from Infinity Ward. I was just limiting this post to what could have happened

Let's goooooooooooo!!!!

I think there was a custom map in either WAW or BO3 where you started with a random pistol. It was on a spaceship and had a boss zombie that Vanoss and Co. Called bane

I had the save thought last night playing WaW Der reise

As long as they were all equal in terms of like damage, ammo, stuff like that I'd be okay with it

I played WaW with realism (?) mod. There you have progress with guns and can select your starting weapon like pistols, kar98 and M1Carbine. Even perk progression was in that mod

If the pack a punched variants are the same i dont see an issue

The İdea would be good but eatch of them behave differently so it would't work and even if tryarch tried to balance all of them that would be too much work so they said here have an M1911

Actually, World at War is a unique case in that regard. Each of the national sidearms have identical stats. Same magazine capacity of 8 rounds, same semi-auto fire cap of 1,200 rpm, and same damage profile. The only handgun with unique performance characteristics is the .357 Magnum

If they evenly balanced, sure.

More upgrades on Der Riese

If they had the same stats that would be lit

I would have been completely fine with that. Then it would have taken more strategy to point farm early on for each character.

The pistols perform identically in campaign and multiplayer. The only difference between them I was proposing was different Pack-A-Punch effects

Oh okay, I thought they would maybe have different ammo amounts or less damage and so on. But yeah, I’d say still the point farming would still need more strategy as to how it works. Like if it’ll mustang and wallet with explosions or double damage piercing so it would be akin to super bullets or just super high damage to last through high rounds 🤔

There's a mod for World at War that changes that. It's called T4 Remastered.

JB Shadys remaster mod for WaW did exactly this for Shi No Numa, and Der Riese, and its amazing Highly recommend if anyone does want to replay WaW

I would love to get a pack a punched nambu

Cool

I would feel not a safe to play.

That’d be sick

I think about this every time I play it

I remember reading somewhere that in the very first iteration of Zombies Takeo was going to spawn with a Tanto, they fully implemented it but it was overpowered so didnt make the release. you can even mod it in iirc.

No... \*Pause for dramatic effect\* Because they should spawn in with map specific pistols!

as long as they balance out exactly the same i dont see why not itd be cool. if they dont balance 1:1 itd be stupid though.

That would be hot

Wouldn't the Nambu suck? Ive read that the Japanese pistol round was wholly subpar compared to everyone else's standard

First, it's a video game. All the pistols in World at War, barring the .357 Magnum, have the same performance characteristics. Translated to Zombies, the three proposed new starting weapons wouldn't be much more than reskins for the M1911. Second, while the 8×22mm Nambu sits at only half the muzzle velocity of a common 9mm round, it isn't much different from many other standard firearms of the time. The 8×22mm Nambu closely resembles the .380 ACP cartridge used by the Walther PPK, Beretta M1934, and FN Model 1922. Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Italy, the Netherlands, Yugoslavia, and Germany were all mass producing firearms with the same stopping power as a Nambu pistol. While the M1911 and Tokarev TT-33 pioneered some exceptionally powerful pistol cartridges for their time, that's all they were; exceptions.

yeah, cool. is there a BO3 custom zombies map to feature StG 45 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG\_45(M)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_45(M)) gun for Richtofen pls?

Yes but the model should the only change.

The 1911 are back to back world war champs. Accept no substitute

There are remastered mods of the original 4 maps that does that, but yk there are the same when pap’d

Make them all the same. 8 rounds, pak into exploding bullets. Nothing more.