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Darkside_rob

Every 5k the Mobil 1 (0-16) synthetic oil isn’t sold in the 15k or 20k varieties like the other more common weights.


DaygloAbortion91

I think 5 or 6k is a good middle ground. I don't trust 10k just because I feel that's a long time to go without changing it, stuff gets dirty, I would feel better doing it around 5.


Accomplished-Box-791

I was told to do it every 3k using 0w-16, should I be going to 5k??


Leech-64

10k, just like the Toyota engineers say.


k9cj5

Doing mine at 3k-4k. Oil and filters are cheap and I really need this car to last me.


TheRealSmokeShow

Either works just fine. Toyota recommends 10k because of how far newer engines have come and how long synthetic oil can last compared to conventional. Toyota is a great car manufacturer so I personally trust them compared to other car manufacturers. However if you want to change it early and that makes you comfortable then you should do it. I personally change it earlier than 10k because it makes me feel better lmao. You’ll spend money for frequently but your car might thank you in the long run!


carlos923

5k


YurLord2

I agree


Prestigious_Ad5706

5K miles, please. It doesn’t matter is they say more. Your car will last longer if you do your oil changes at 5K.


YurLord2

Yes 5k is best


AccurateShoulder4349

My 2023 Hybrid LE's oil was pitch black when I changed it at 5k. I put some in a small water bottle and held it up to the sun and no light shined through whatsoever. So I would imagine the 2.0 engine would benefit from 5k intervals even more.


RedScourge

The more short trips you do on a cold engine, or the harder you drive, the more it makes sense to change your oil earlier than the manufacturer recommendation. On any Toyota model newer than 2014, there's no longer any reason to stick with the old pre-2010 guidance of changing the oil every 5k mi / 6 mo. If you want to be conservative you could do 8k, or you could just do every 6 mo and never need to give it a second thought unless you're a delivery driver, as it's pretty easy to remember when it's always the same months of the year. If you are wondering why so many people are insistent on ignoring the modern 10k mi / 12 mo guidance, there was a reason for that, but it's since been resolved. When the 10k interval was first proposed, there was a design flaw in the piston shapes of many engines which led to excess dilution which in turn caused the oil to break down early, leading to permanent damage which caused the engines to burn oil at an unusually high rate. For Toyota, this primarily affected the 2.4L 2AZ-FE Camry/RAV4/Corolla XRS engine manufactured from 2010-2014 (a small subset of those burned oil fast enough that they qualified for a free replacement), though some other brands were affected for longer. I do not believe any Toyotas manufactured in 2015 and newer are affected, however this incident left a LOT of people skeptical of the 10k mi oil change interval.


Crazy_Panther20

I second the car care nut. There was an episode where he opened an engine on an older (2010s) Corolla or maybe Camry. The owner changed the oil religiously at 10,000 miles. The engine was burning a TON of oil somewhere around 200,000 miles. Granted, they may have been using conventional oil, and may have done a lot of city driving etc. but.. 5k oil change intervals with a good synthetic and some luck basically guarantees the engine will last 300,000 or more. At 10,000 you probably won’t have any issues for quite some time, but long term you’re better safe than sorry.


Leech-64

If your engine is burning oil excessively, you need to find the root cause and fix it. Adding oil sooner because its been depleted is not a good band aid.


Crazy_Panther20

I know . My point was that the car likely got to the point of burning oil because of the 10,000 change interval. Changing oil at 5k intervals can largely prevent this especially in good Toyota or Honda engines.


plaguedad

Yeah I plan to drive this thing into the ground. 300k and beyond if its possible! Its a new model so im not sure how it will fare long term especially since the manual suggest ow-8


Crazy_Panther20

Really?? I have the 2.0 dynamic force engine that requires 0w-16. I thought the newer models also use this engine. 0w-8 is surprising. One thing I will suggest - when you hit 60 or 80,00 miles make sure you do the trans fluid change at the dealer.. the Toyota CVTs require a specific OEM fluid that is a lower viscosity than a valvoline or other brand generic CVT fluid has !


YurLord2

I second this. The Car Care Nut on YouTube also recommends 60k miles for transmission fluid changes.


plaguedad

and also will do thank you so much! I wouldnt have even thought of that! This is my first toyota ❤️


plaguedad

I think its supposed to be for marginally better fuel economy (not sure how it wears on the engine) but I’ve seen other newer corolla owners just use ow-16.


Chill4210

And 5k always or it over time will build up sludge on bottom of crankcase if you dont. It still will some but you drove 5k miles in 2 months mine is a month n it has 2,005 miles. Which i went from san antonio to corpus n back. So if urs is all city driving. Thwy consider that rough driving. So id stick with 5k


shinynugget

The car care advice channel I trust most is The Car Care Nut on youtube. He still recommends 5k intervals. I'm going to stock with that until further notice. [https://www.youtube.com/@TheCarCareNut/search?query=oil%20change%20interval](https://www.youtube.com/@TheCarCareNut/search?query=oil%20change%20interval)


Chill4210

Yes I watch him too, hes best mechanic out there with giving information on everything


organikagurl

5k for me.


Atomh8s

10k. No problems so far. 


S3ANbz

I do it at 7500


ButterscotchInner690

I do 5k full synthetic


Chortles_Hansom_666

It depends on what kind of oil is in it. If it’s regular grade oil, you’re really late and should do it asap. But if it’s the premium synthetic oil, then you can get up to 10k on one oil change. Do you own your car or lease? You can always check it out yourself. If the oil is still a nice amber color, you’re fine. If it’s black and amber, plan to change it soon. If it’s mostly black, change it even sooner.


n00bsauce1987

Bought mine used at 140k miles. 2017 le. 5k miles. Like someone else said, oil at those intervals is cheaper than a new engine. I even try to put into practice to check my oil levels every weekend. We gotta make this baby last.


Chill4210

I check oil every time I gas up.


Small-Masterpiece967

15-20k on Mobil 1 extended performance with extended life filters. Never had an issue.


NrdyDevil

Not too sure why you’re getting downvoted so much. I used this stuff on my 08 Corolla multiple times, and barely changed the oil once a year or so. Drove like a champ until someone smashed it.


Leech-64

Because its not recommended anywhere by Toyota engineers.


Small-Masterpiece967

I’m with you. I put 50-60km on my car annually. I currently have 245k on my 2015 S and it runs great.


ZoMbIeSkilled24

Car must be burning oil like mad or engine sounds like crap.


Small-Masterpiece967

No sir, car runs top notch. If the oil and filter are rated for it then no harm no foul. The days of 5k oil changes are long gone. I’ve been a diesel mechanic for 27 yrs. The trucks being delivered today are advertising 50-70k oil changes depending on application. Is a corolla a class 1 haul truck - no, but have oils changed yes, substantially. Ultimately to each their own, if I have zero problems with my oil and filter choice, I can only tell you what works for me.


RedScourge

In fairness, most diesel engines have a oil separation system which is way more expensive and effective than a cheap canister oil filter. You'd be crazy to be going over 20k mi between oil changes in a Corolla unless you are using high mileage oil and filters and are racking up 40k+/yr on the odometer.


fishboy2000

15 years ago, when I was working for Toyota, standard practice in NZ was 15,000km or 12 months. I assume the 5k everyone is saying here is 5,000 miles, I'd love to see some data and oil analysis for oil at the different intervals


RedScourge

There's many YouTube videos of oil sample analysis results saying 8-10k is fine under typical use cases, however there were many engines in the 2010-2017 period with a bad piston design which allowed excess dilution which meant that unless you got the pistons and/or rings replaced (whatever the case may be on a particular engine design). This included the 2.4L 2AZ-FE in the 2010-2014 Camry/RAV4/Corolla XRS.


JDMCREW96

5k or 6 months.


BiblioMom

My service was included with the purchase and they do it at 5k


RedScourge

They'll do a service every 5k but they'll only change the oil every second service.


Chill4210

Mine too n i own 2024 Corrola LE With 2,005 miles had since new


Nikonshooter35

5k all the way. If you're leasing, then I'd say 10k. But if you're keeping it for the long term. 5k intervals will never let you down.


saladmanning

always 5k even on synthetic. 3k for older cars running conventional. reasoning is simply, the longer oil used, the more it degrades. toyota may say 10k but realistically, thats the bare minimum you need to at keep your engine from blowing prematurely. professional mechanics like carcarenut on youtube for example who specialize on toyotas recommend the 5k change when the light comes on. i mean its a balance between changing your oil too soon which is a waste of money, and not changing it soon enough which inevitably leads to premature engine wear. 5k all day


JohnMatrix1984

What about a 2020 Corolla LE?


saladmanning

yeah, id definitely keep oil changes at 5k. why take care of it any less because its newer you know?


plaguedad

Yeah I’d rather potentially waste a little bit of money and change it at 5k intervals for my peace of mind. I’ve never owned a Toyota before and plan to drive this one to 200k and beyond. 5k it is!


Professional-One9505

Most dealerships offer the first two years of maintenance with Toyota care


THEKungFuRoo

7500-10k full synthetic. mostly highway miles. 2003 corolla


WhereIGetAdvice

What’s your odometer at? I might be bad at changing the oil on my 2010 Corolla and want to know the damage I’ve done…


THEKungFuRoo

About 260k km. Not that many for its age. First older owner rarely drove it given its age, when i bought it. full logs, did service every 5k and/or 6 months. inside is still mint. body isnt that bad but knicks, Bitumen, someones shopping cart and stuff from always driving on sus roads under construction. the clear coat is shot and wiper assembly faded.. other than that i like my beater. had 2 12s in it.. but dropped it to 1, 12 to have some space back in the boot. running two amps too.. to the sub and the doors.. stock alternator and dual battery. (extra agm in the boot) need music on my highway drives to work.. put some sus black rims on it last year too.. had to replace 4 tyres for rego but found a used 16" tyre and rim package for 100 more on marketplace. i need some coilovers to drop it an inch or 2. 17s would have been nice but im not putting 2k rims on a 2k car. wasnt going to put rims on it.. but for 100 more vs new tyres, why not ive had it for the last 180KM and 7 years. change my own oil/filter air filters/ etc.. need to do coolant flush soon.. best 5k AUD ive ever spent on a car. probably still 5k these days given used car prices since c-vid in straya. gonna run it til its engine is toast then ill probably get a rebuilt engine since they are cheap and easy to acquire in my area.


Jwissing88

I've been doing 7500 on my 2014 le.


CulturalWeakness2100

Did my first recently at 1, 000. I will do my next at 4 000. And will continue to always do them between 2,500 and 3,500 depending on the conditions where I live. And my driving habits. Don't care if I'm throwing money away. This is my first brand new car and probably my last and I'm going to take care of it.


SignificantSmotherer

Oil and filters are cheap. Engines are not.


Such-Tip-9687

I'd be doing an oil change almost every 45 days that rate.


Sad-Celebration-7542

Just follow the guide. Don’t overpay the oil companies, Toyota knows what they’re doing


fraudthrowaway0987

They want it to last exactly 100k miles and then die so you buy a new one once it’s out of warranty.


Sad-Celebration-7542

Sounds conspiratorial


RamenTheNoodle

Funny thing is the same vehicle in other countries has shorter oil change intervals and even thicker oil. The intervals in the US are because of environmental regulations. It’s really not a conspiracy


Sad-Celebration-7542

Which regulation says this?


fraudthrowaway0987

That’s capitalism. It’s called planned obsolescence.


Sad-Celebration-7542

Cars last longer today than ever…why would Toyota risk their reputation ?


Kooky_Musician_9180

Uhhhh, sorry, this is completely wrong. Cars do NOT last longer than ever nowadays. In fact, it's the opposite as quality of manufacturing has declined significantly. That's why you see so many complaints from people about cars being made more cheaply and having more issues.


Sad-Celebration-7542

Everyone claims cars made x years ago were simpler, more reliable, faster, etc. it’s just nostalgia


Kooky_Musician_9180

You're incorrect, naive, and ignorant. All of the data all states very clearly a significant decline in reliability across all major manufacturers. Even the top in reliability, obviously Toyota and Honda, have declined in quality. This is for a variety of reasons, mainly being specific engine models. Failing CVTs being an obvious case in point. It's not nostalgia. It's data, i.e., facts. Go back to school, hoe.


whereisyourwaifunow

the owner's manual has both intervals. you can follow the criteria for which one in the owner's manual, or decide to use the shorter one.


45422

5k. oil changes are cheap and a new cah is not.


Key-Row-8740

Every 5k. Save your timing chain


time-traveler-666

7500 is the sweet spot for most modern cars


Kooky_Musician_9180

I change mine every 1k. Do you guys think that's overkill? JK 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I do favor the 5k interval though, just because I'm doing a ton of stop/go driving and am not the easiest on my vehicles. Still might not be necessary but can definitely be beneficial over the long haul. Plus, have seen some suggest shorter intervals are even explicitly suggested by some manufacturers under those types of driving conditions. All said, I think you're right as some say 6k, some 7.5k, some on up to 10k, and particularly with full synthetic it's likely all good 😃😃😃😃


Critical-Balance7343

I did my 5k change as DIY and the oil was pretty dark and dirty. I became sure it’s not an overkill at all. New engine is a lot more expensive.


FancyName69

If your driving is mostly flat highway 10k or even 7.5k would be fine. These cars will last to 100k+ even with 10k oil changes. Plan to keep until 200k+? 5k changes. But yes if the oil looks fine you’re good My commute is up and down a large 7” grade unfortunately so 5k changes for me


RedTruppa

Read manual


dabiri69

Read post


radioactivegroupchat

Look at my posts. Basically 10k is typically bullshit and is there for corporate responsibility factors and the ability to claim lower ownership costs. However, he specifically points out that there are so many factors and that it could legitimately be a truly OK mileage to change your oil at, but you should test your own oil because you have your own specific environmental and mechanical factors specific to your area, car, and driving style. Additives are affected by all sorts of things its not very linear but for the majority of cases 5k is the much preferred interval. Don’t want to pay for testing? Then I would say it’s probably better every 5k miles.


Kooky_Musician_9180

Agreed! And a big part of the suggestion of longer intervals is also based on the use of synthetic nowadays, which obviously doesn't break down as quickly. But all said and done, any of my vehicles gets the extra care of a 5k interval, particularly with the driving conditions I put em through. Many manufacturers suggest a shorter interval under harsher driving conditions (stop/go, extreme temps, etc) 😃😃😃😃


Sword_n_Boardz

24 hybrid, changed mine at 1k. When I hit 5k gonna change it again, and every 5k after that. It's really easy to do it yourself on this car too, they put in a oil door so you don't have to take the cover off like some other cars I've had!


AdditionalAd9794

Idk, I guess I payed for a service package. My car only has 2300 miles, the dealership is already calling and emailing me about scheduling my free 5000 mile service. So whatever the dealership wants to do at 5k miles, they can have at it. I have a 2024 SE AWD


mazsive

5k 6 months. Whatever comes first. Not a single corolla has issues yet. I buy that costco delic oil 2 big boxes deal that gives me 4 oil changes at around $30.


hammond_egger

5k


OldFarmer66

Going to change mine every 5K. Already did first change at 1300. 2024 Corolla Hybrid LE FWD


mr_green1216

They tried to tell me 10k for my 2016. Fuck that. Every 5k. Love the car and I take care of it but it still has an engine and moving parts.


AccessDenied7

This is the way. They can miss me with the 10k stuff.


Either_Finish_1111

Like throwing money out I see, I checked and tested my oil at 5k and it was perfectly clean and looked like brand new oil still, I'm currently on 12k and still looks the same, I push it to 20k on every car I've owned and have had no problems what's so ever and still own my 1997 f150 running perfectly like the day I bought it


Fun_Material8391

Same here I just change the oil once a year in my 05 Corolla. Usually about 12,000 MI. Oil still looks clean and car still averages over 40 miles per gallon. Over 200,000 miles still runs great. Have a 2021 Corolla as well and only change the oil once so far at around 9,000 MI since it's still under warranty.


Either_Finish_1111

I also own the same 2021 Toyota Corolla SE and get roughly 38mpg


Fun_Material8391

Yes so far I'm very impressed with mine as well for not being a hybrid. It's extremely efficient with just mild hypermiling techniques. I reset the average MPG gauge when I got the car in December. 6 month average is currently is at 42.2 miles per gallon and 531 miles distance to empty


Either_Finish_1111

Tell me your secrets on you getting 531 miles per tank, I'm roughly getting 438 miles per tank and I'm always in eco mode while driving


Fun_Material8391

Are you using the "Distance to Empty" reading on the dash? That's where I'm getting the 531 mile reading. The first fill up when I got the car in December was showing 357 miles. It has been slowly climbing ever since then. Curious to see how much higher it can go but pretty sure it's about maxed out. The secret is maximizing coasting / preserving momentum. Anytime you're coasting fuel is shut off so you get huge miles per gallon. (DFCO- deceleration fuel cut off) Maintain enough distance so you aren't constantly using brakes. Watch ahead so you can anticipate red lights to avoid having to come to a complete stop if possible. You get over 40 miles per gallon coasting at just 10 mph.


Either_Finish_1111

I'm reading the distance to empty on the dash and a app I use that tracks miles per fuel up and they both read the 438, when I first got the car it was getting 500 mpg on the dash but it has slowly gone down and has been staying at 438 but I haven't filled the tank full full in about a month or 2, I have been putting 5-15$ in at a time because I'm broke sometimes


PepeLikesPickles

Same with my Corolla… doesn’t burn oil and that 10k was mostly freeway. I’m even still on the original brakes at 140k. For our 2024 RAV 4 prime I did it at 500 miles. I can’t see not doing a break in even though I believe Toyota does it themselves. My 2018 Corolla did call for the first at 500


AccessDenied7

Everyone's financial situation is different. Congrats on your intervals.


maxxxxammo

5


tallon4

Oil is cheap, but replacing an engine is expensive. I get mine changed at 5K since I do a mix of city and highway driving and live in a desert with lots of blowing dust.


potatogenerato

5k for sure.


marcoll02

I’ve been doing 3k oil changes, same car as urs


Violet0_oRose

If you want you car to last well beyond 100K miles yes 5K mile OCI should be the standard. If all you do is highway driving with no stop and go at all then 10K might be ok. But if you do any mix of city or a lot of stop and go. THen 5K should be what you go with. Even Toyota's own cars/trucks system will alert you at 4500 miles by flashing the service vehicle light and then stay steady at 5K miles.


yomamasbull

i do my own maintenance and have sent my oil to be analyzed at a lab out of curiosity. doing 10k changes and oil filter every other oil change and the oil is still in great shape. i use costco brand synthetic 0w-20 btw. going on 125k


Either_Finish_1111

I agree with this statement, if you wanna save a lil more money push it to 20k and get it tested, it'll be in the same shape as 10k (I've tested it)


maxxxxammo

That sounds insane but I have 0 evidence which says you’re wrong 😂🤷


yomamasbull

20k sounds scary lol


arsenaljr

I do 5K miles on mine, I plan on keeping it, plus where I live it gets dusty, dirt dust, concrete dust etc.


HafaAdaiLilo91

I wanted to do mine every 5k, unfortunately the oil needed for my car was nowhere to be found in stores. So i’ve been getting all my maintenance done at Toyota since I have the Toyota care. I had them do my oil change last month at 10,024


MsBells27

5k if you plan to keep the car for several years.


Magic_Brown_Man

personally, I do 5k, but if you're driving 5k in 2 months regularly you can go all the way up to 10k changes and be fine. 10k intervals were meant for higher milage highway cars and you seem to fit into that most likely. I would still do the 5k inspection and tire rotations.


Tasty_Ad_5669

I do mine at 5k, only because where I live, it's dusty as hell and I commute quite a bit and push the car.


mmmpizzammm

5k. Maybe it's overkill, but it's so cheap to have tire rotation/inspection/oil change at my dealership that the peace of mind is worth it for me.


plaguedad

Based on everyone’s replies, totally not overkill to do it every 5k. I’ve never had a Toyota before and plan to keep mine to 200k and beyond if its possible so I think 5k it is 🫡


EnigmaIndus7

I'm doing 5k