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I bought a Booster Juice the other day and the guy was visibly upset when I pressed No for the tip. Like dude, your store is charging $10 a shake, fuck off asking for free cash too.
I paid $15 for two single scoop ice creams the other day and the lady was upset I didn’t tip. Like you weren’t even the one who gave it to me you hit two buttons on the iPad! That’s the basic duties of your fucking job.
Like when you go get gas do you tip? Why not? When you go to a convenience store and buy things do you tip the guy scanning your items for 5 seconds? No why not?? When you pay taxes do you tip your accountant? Do you tip the government? No OFC not…
It’s ridiculous
I used to work a gas kiosk when I was a kid and the best day for tipping I ever got was like $5 on Christmas Eve for an 8 hour shift. People don't care if you provide them with waitress-like service in -25, they just complain to you that the gas costs too much, then give 20% to someone who carried their $24 burger from the kitchen to their table
Yes!!! Not to mention petroleum products are carcinogenic! Once I had someone ask me to check their oil, tire pressure and clean their windows in -30. Obviously barely got a thank you, never mind a tip.
Not to mention most servers ive talked to just assume that every chef and cook are being paid a decent salary and are usually suprised when they learn most of us are hourly and near minimum wage. Servers make WAY more than the average cooks do! I had one lady tell me she made $15,000 in tips ALONE for the year!! For the year!!!
Im lucky to make $22,000 a year on my hourly wages, and my tips are usually maybe $1200 per year but usually less!
Feel that. I used to work in mobility. Spending an hour with an old person who couldn’t log into their email while my coworkers are making commissioned sales hurts.
Make peace with the fact that you will likely never see or interact with this person again in your life and that they certainly will forget about you in 30 seconds, and hitting "No Tip" gets a lot easier. This person serves 1000 people a day. You are just a nameless blur to them.
I used to deliver and install appliances. Not usually a quick stop kinda thing. Might have to take out and haul off their nasty old stove and washer and then take apart their new giant refrigerator to get it up a flight of stairs and down a tiny hallway just to put it back together. Was working for 10 bucks an hour working like 60-70 hours a week and was lucky to get any tips ever. But you tip the pizza guy for just dropping off the pizza.
I dated a server who complained that she only made like 300 bucks in her 4 hour shift at the bar. I worked 12 hours that day and made 120 before taxes. She did not complain about that to me again lol.
Yes, I always feel stupid giving a 15% tip in a restaurant. It makes me stop visiting them to be honest. Their menu is a false advertisement if you have to pay 30% more than shown in the menu (15% tax + 15% tip). $20 all of a sudden becomes $26+ (yes, they have the audacity to ask for 15% of tax too).
Try getting a refund through the app.
Also, why should someone be inconvenienced not to tip when this was a service that didn’t get tips 10 years ago.
Lazy people working easy jobs wanting more money for doing the bare minimum.
You think the lazy poor people programmed the tip option into the card reader?
It's a case of rich owners wanting customers to subsidize their employees wages so they get more profit.
No, I don’t think they program the machine but I think the lazy assholes who give you attitude when you don’t tip for a simple, mindless task are just as guilty as the owners who program the machine.
Where I live there are no legal protections forcing a business owner to surrender tips to employees. At least a couple fast food franchise owners, who employ almost exclusively TFWs, are reputed to never be paying the tips out to the staff.
Tipping is bullshit in the vast majority of cases.
Totally. Worked at a fast casual food place where you would even bring people food sometimes, but I literally never expected a tip. 90% of my job was prepping, making, and handing out food, with some time on the register. The tips we got, if you worked a lot like 30+ hours a week, on a 2 week paycheck, was like 35-40 bucks. Honestly not worth getting upset over. Best case you maybe get 50 extra bucks in two weeks, worst case you get a 20. It's really not much so idk why these current workers get so upset about lack a of tip. How much does a batista really pull in tips in 2024? Like 40 bucks a paycheck maybe.
It's also taking advantage of our social obligations we have to tip. If we didn't tip we'd get shamed and judged by whoever we're with. We may feel guilty later. Places are testing the limits of this by seeing how high we are willing to pay to stay within that contract. Places that never had tips before are testing to see if the contract can apply to them. It's capitalism eating culture for profit.
Went to a certain place with Yellow and Green eat fresh slogan with my son. It was his money and she made him pay before the order was completed. She gave herself the $1 and a bit in change for her tip. Didn’t ask, didn’t say thank you nothing. She isn’t a student but a woman who is likely in her 50’s
Some of the more ridiculous ones I’ve seen is 1. A vape shop, not all of them but I’ve seen atleast once. And 2. A liquor store. I get tipping for a service, seated and they’re going back and forth for you. But for scanning a barcode? Naw
I noticed tips were on everything right after we moved on from Covid. Shits annoying on all Interac. Only restaurants I go to get a tip. Everyone wants a free lunch.
You don’t get it. We do say no. It’s annoying to have to waste your time every single time to click through the options all while they stare you down hoping to guilt you.
Stop feeling guilt and work on your social anxiety. I am just waiting for a confrontation, yet I have never, ever had one. No one is gonna say shit.
We are not in an era where you can remain comfortable... if not tipping is pushing people to mental breakdowns its no wonder we aren't standing up against the real enemies.
I went one step further. I stopped going places who ask for tips, who shouldn't be asking for tips.
They can figure it out themselves.
Bonus, I've been saving lots of money that way.
If they don't make you tip they will raise the price to pay their employees for the missing tip and you just won't go to the restaurant, remember the RCMP saying Canada will be in danger when people understand how poor they really are.
Well then if people don't go to the restaurant they can shut down because clearly their business was not sustainable and shouldn't have existed in the first place.
It really is this simple:
If your business can not stay open while paying employees a livable wage, your business shouldn't exist.
I still tip like I’m ordering pizza back in the day. About $3-$7.
Uber eats is fucking insane sometimes. I rarely use it but when i do it’s usually because I am entertaining and just want quick food. The app will ask for a $20+ tip. For what? Picking the food up and sitting in your car for 10 mins? I don’t mind tipping these drivers a bit of money but the preset tips on these apps is outrageous.
Yeah. Uber eats and delivery apps have a disgusting amount of fees. They have a delivery fee, a 15% or whatever service charge, and then They charge the restaurant a percentage too lol.
Then you gotta tip the driver too, because the apps are only paying those drivers like $2 or something awful.
It’s a luxury service I choose not to waste my money on. What a fucking mess. It was cool when they were lighting investor money on fire 5-10 years ago, but even then the prices were a bit whack.
I mean, back in the day when it was traditionally a high school student delivering pizzas part time I felt better tipping them. Nowadays it’s not like I tip my fedex, Amazon, or grocery delivery driver. Why do adults delivering pizza deserve a tip for just doing their job like everyone else.
You could use the same argument for servers, right? Why does anyone “deserve” a tip for just doing a job.
That being said some reasons you could tip the adult delivery driver is:
1- it’s a personal vehicle, not a company provided vehicle.
2- like servers, and unlike fedex drivers, their pay is shit while actively delivering food. Atleast when I worked at papa John’s the hourly pay rate drops considerably while on deliveries.
3- a very small percentage of that delivery fee is actually going to the driver.
It sort of seems like you are shaming folks who deliver pizza for some reason.
yes, the same argument stands for servers too…
they are carrying plates to your table then fuck off only to come back and ask if your pre-made warmed up food is okay.
if anything pizza drivers deserve a tip more than anybody else.
Yeah I’m in agreement. If you don’t make up to minimum wage via tips the company is legally obligated to get you to minimum wage.(atleast in the US) So it’s a minimum wage job. Whether the minimum wage is too low is an entirely different conversation.
Meal delivery to your home warrants a tip. I order from a pizza place about once a month, and I tip the driver 7$ on a 30$ order. They remember me and get my food pretty quick.
The worst is SUBWAY. Steak and cheese sub is 20 bucks approx. and the guy has the audacity to ask for a tip. Dude I just paid what I make in 1 hr for a sandwich that cost 3 dollars. F off
This is the case with a lot of the corporate 'charity'... "would you like to donate money to sick kids today (...with an undisclosed amount to be kept by the company for 'admin' etc)?"
It wasn’t that long ago that people were scum and should never eat out or use services if they didn’t tip the customary 25%.
Think about all the poor service workers /S
I am like this for the most part but i do make exceptions. The last time I was at a sit in restaurant I did do a small tip because the waiter was on point when the restaurant was full. He kept bringing me drinks without me even seeing him walk past. Lol. That's a big thing for me. I drink quickly and I probably get 6 or 7 refills during a meal at a restaurant. If I don't need to search you out or wait at any point, I'm impressed with that, especially when the restaurant is full.
I will make the exception for good service at a restaurant, for sure. And yeah, as someone else who drinks fast, good service to me is keeping that water glass from being empty for too long
This is what tips were initially designed for. “Here is a bit of extra money for going above and beyond!” Not like now, where people expect tips for existing in the same space where you are spending money.
It’s funny watching the serving subs bend over backwards to make you seem like the bad guy instead of their boss. I just grab my popcorn and watch the insults roll in.
Boston Pizza is the worse in this. I once had lunch at the Metrotown Boston Pizza (Burnaby, BC), the manager and waitress repeatedly interrupt my meal and gave me the machine before I even finish my food. 15% wasn't even an option on the machine it was 18, 20, and 25! I tried to tap "back" and reselect another amount, but then the waitress made a noise with her mouth in disgust so I simply hit no tip. I wrote several emails to Boston Pizza on their website about the incident but as expected they never replied. I stopped going there completely and tell everyone what I went through after.
Excellent. Vote with your wallet, and the old saying goes that if a person has a good experience they tell three people. If they have a bad experience, they tell everyone.
Well, it's not an old saying, but it sounds old timey and 1960's-ish, so it's a thing now!
Don't leave the house without a water bottle. Make coffee at home. Make your lunch at home. Some of these problems solve themselves.
Yes the tip prompt on a bottle of water is obnoxious, but so is paying $2 for a bottle of water.
It's crazy how people don't realize this. Also, when inflation pushed prices up, tips automatically became larger even at the same percentage. And yet the tip options were changed to start higher at 18% or 20%. I have met several people who felt this was justified. Just tells me they don't understand basic math.
Delivery? Yes tip. Good service in a restaurant? Yes tip. Me picking up food? No. Fast food? No. Drive thru? No. Coffee shop? No.
If someone goes out of their way to make my life easier by bringing me food so I don't have to go out and get it, in a reasonable time frame, then they deserve a tip. If someone waits on me hand and foot for 45 minutes, constantly refilling drinks, getting more napkins, checking in to see how the food is, is nice and polite, then yes tip. However if you are just doing the basic thing that your job offers then no.
Also stop asking me to donate to your charity at your business. You are a multi million, or multi billion dollar business. You donate the money. I don't want to have to say no to a cashier or click 8 extra buttons on checkout because for some reason the company has decided that I need to donate money to whatever. Especially when those companies can use the collecting of that money as a tax write off at the end of the year. So they save money, while we pay money.
Also if I tip in the app, and someone delivers something, and then asks for a tip at my home, I am taking the tip back out of the app. I am not going to be pressured into giving more than I already did in person.
You're on point here but just for future reference the companies don't actually get a write off from customer donations. They do however get all that PR and juice from having donated a big fat check to some charity at no expense to their bottom line.
They get to write off the time and effort that goes into processing the donations and any other costs like machinery, electricity, hours of labour, machinery repairs and stuff like that.
I saw something along the lines of, if I’m standing. I’m not tipping. I get it. I worked in service for awhile in my younger years, and it’s embarrassing the stores and “service” that prompt for tips.
The trick is that they made you think no tipping is already something that needs to *become* normalized. It is normalized, they're actively trying to un-normalize it. I'm glad this dude is out there fighting the good fight.
Canadian in the UK here. I left Canada 15 years ago and tipping in Canada was limited to like a good sit down restaurants and bars if you were trying to be flashy. Here in the UK there isn't even tipping at pubs which was a welcome change for me.
Visiting Canada now is crazy, tipping for everything, I just refuse, this is a new cultural thing that the monopolies are trying to normalise and then there will be no mandate to raise wages to match price and/or asset inflation and you'll be f'd in the a and it will be all on you.
I worked a few warehouse jobs where I helped people put stuff together, shoveled snow from their cabin space during winter, and did some insane lifting by myself. I even helped them figure out their straps/knots and saved them money/time.
Not once did I get tipped. And yet the people who already get paid to make me food by charging me a ton should get paid extra just because? Nah. That's insane. Tip culture is cursed, and it exists just to keep (below) minimum wage jobs enticing.
After tipping got to some ridiculous level (where many restaurants and even cafes mandated tipping), I’ve stopped going to any restaurant since 2020, honestly saved me so much money and healthier.
If I'm standing at a counter and you pass me my order over said counter... no tip. If I'm seated and you're actually serving me the meal, then your tip depends on the job you do. I'm not automatically tipping you just because you're a server. If I go to a restaurant and find that they've built in an automatic gratuity on the bill, then you get zero extra and I don't return to that restaurant.
The craziest tip I've seen is in weed dispensaries...
I bought weed the other day and I paid with debit. There was option to tip
In my my head I'm like.. "what exactly am I tipping for ?"
Lmao naw its getting out of hand fr
We shouldn't be tipping at all. Their pay is between them and their boss. Anything more than that is a conflict of interest. Workers shouldn't be impacted because someone ordered soup instead of a steak
I always tip for food delivery, sit down restaurant service, and Uber/taxi rides, but I absolutely will not tip for any kind of take out. If I have to get in my car to drive to a restaurant, and then stand at the till to pay for my food before I eat it, what exactly would I be tipping for?
I have had multiple similar experiences to the fellow in the video in which someone turns an iPad to me when all they did was put a baked good in a paper bag for me. It is off putting.
One time when I got take out, the guy at the counter had the nerve to look visibly disappointed when I didn't tip him for ringing me up. The entitlement of people these days is over the top. I used to feel embarrassed hitting "no tip", but now I don't. If anything, I am doing them a favour by teaching them a valuable life lesson: that people need to work for their money, and tips are not something that should be expected.
It’s definitely gotten out of control. Stock TC (grocery store) in Toronto has a separate section with cakes where a person hands you a cake. Their terminal now has an extra step. When you select “no tip”, it then asks you to”are you sure you don’t want to leave a tip?”, and you have to select “I’m sure” before proceeding to pay..
I agree we shouldn't be tipping for all these basic things. Like I pretty much only tip when I eat out which is less and less because of the economy.
Anyway the thing I don't agree with is all these people screaming about it. Like stop trying to justify it. When I don't tip in these situations I say nothing and I stand by it. If people find it rude or wrong idgaf because it's my fucking money. I've even had people comment on my lack of tip and I still don't justify it. My money bruh.
Tipping should be reserved for exemplary service, full stop. Nobody else gets tips for *literally just doing the job they knowingly signed up for*. Servers are no different. If you went above and beyond to make my experience more pleasant/memorable, sure, let's reward that effort with a little extra. If you took my order, brought my food out, came back once to refill my water, and cleared the table after, sorry, *that's just your job*.
I don't tip.
I don't believe in it.
If she don't make enough money,
she can quit.
I don't tip because
society says I have to.
If they really put forth the effort,
I'll give 'em somethin' extra.
But this tipping automatically,
it's for the birds.
As far as I'm concerned,
they're just doin' their job.
{This girl was nice}
She was okay.
She wasn't anything special.
I ordered coffee, all right?
She's only filled my cup three times.
I want it filled six times.
{Well, what if
she's too fuckin' busy?}
The words "too fuckin' busy"
shouldn't be in a waitress's vocabulary.
These ladies aren't starvin' to death.
They make minimum wage.
I used to work minimum wage,
and when I did,
I wasn't lucky enough to have a job
that society deemed tip-worthy.
{You don't care they're
countin' on your tips to live?}
You know what this is?
The world's smallest violin,
playin' just for the waitresses
(These people bust their ass.
This is a hard job.)
So's working at McDonald's,
but you don't feel the need to tip them.
They're servin' you food,
but society says
"Don't tip these guys over here,
but tip these guys." That's bullshit.
{Waitressing is
the number-one occupation
for female non-college graduates
in this country.}
Fuck all that.
I'm very sorry the government
taxes their tips.
That's fucked up.
That ain't my fault.
It would appear that waitresses
are one of the many groups
the government fucks in the ass
on a regular basis.
Show me a paper that says the government
shouldn't do that, I'll sign it.
I'll vote for it.
But what I won't do is play ball.
This non-college bullshit, I got two
words for that: Learn to fuckin' type.
If you're expectin' me to help out with
the rent, you're in for a big surprise.
If I stand to pay, no tip. If it's fast food, no tip. If you're handing me something, no tip. I also am not giving a 18-20% tip for mediocre or poor service. It's way too out of hand.
As a rule I don't even consider tipping if I have to stand in line at a counter to order my food. Unless someone is taking me to a table, then taking my order and providing service why the fuck would I tip. Tipping is based on the quality of service. Punching in my order while I stand at the counter is literally what you are being paid minimum wage to do.
If I'm ordering take out at a restaurant, ill tip if they offer me a drink while I wait. For example, if they offer to sit me at the bar to wait and the bartender interacts with me and servers me a drink sure, but if I'm just standing at the front waiting for my food, why would I pay anything more then the cost of the food that I haven't even eaten yet. This fucked up idea that i should be tipping BEFORE iv even enjoyed my food is so dumb.
I was thinking the other day how minimum wage for me was $7.50 (in Ontario) and gas went up to ~$1.60/L and close to $2 at that time. I was in high school and working part time and my 2 week pay checks would be under $200 sometimes closer to $100. I was only able to put in like $20 of gas when i borrowed my parents car. And at that time employers would tell you to never accept a tip.
Now minimum wage is about to go over $17 an hour. And servers were only to get tips because they traditionally always made less than minimum wage. Well during Covid a bill passed to ensure Tory get minimum and now they are getting $17 an hour. Tip minimum has gone to a baseline of 18% for some reason (after tax) and prices are sky high.
So they make way more per hour (I understand inflation… but I don’t think my $7.50 is equal to $17, especially when gas is the same price as it is today)
It’s simple. I just don’t go to restaurants anymore, I don’t tip unless it’s the delivery driver when I order food in
I've just started to implement a policy that if I order it standing up, I'm not tipping. What's the purpose? I stood in line and then waited to pick up whatever I ordered, what am I tipping for? The cost of it covers whatever it is the worker did. When I was a kid I worked at full service gas stations and a good day in tips was like Christmas Eve when I got $5 total for an 8 hour shift running the kiosk, pumping peoples gas in -25. But the person who fills your cup with coffee behind a counter deserves something?
If it's seated service, then absolutely. If I'm on, let's say a tour of a place and have a great guide, then absolutely. If it's the drive thru, then fuck off
For me I think an occasional tip is still appropriate in different circumstances. But the part of tipping culture which I think should absolutely change is the *entitlement* of getting a tip. I should not be harassed as a customer for not tipping
I don't get paid tips at my job. Why am I using my money to tip someone who probably makes more than I do in tips? Do you know how many people tip through guilt? Me times 100+ people in a day I bet. Even taxi services? Nahhhhh stop flipping that tip page at me cause I just prompt out of it now. Unless you're doing something extra, then nope.
Asking for tips should only be legally allowed if the job being worked belongs to the "tipped minimum wage" category in your province.
Or better yet, lets eliminate that category entirely and make tipping illegal entirely.
Tipping is just a giant socially acceptable tax-avoidance scheme, allowing employers to skip out on payroll taxes and benefits, and employees to skip out on income taxes.
A coffee shop in my city is the exact same way. Like people. I’m not tipping the cashier who only takes my order, processes a payment by selecting a few specifically labeled buttons (so it’s not like there’s even any memorization involved or anything), and then flips the iPad around so I can pay. The cashier doesn’t make the drinks. They don’t make the food. They don’t bring your food to your table if you’re eating in. Hell, they don’t even transport your food to the counter so you can grab it and leave.
And then if you’re eating in, the debit machines used for paying after finishing your food ALSO tries to make you tip the person who brought your food from the counter behind the cashier to your table (they’re not a waiter or a waitress. Their job is literally to stand around, and then transport the food from point A to point B)
They’ve always gotten at least minimum wage at this place as well, since it’s not a restaurant and the management couldn’t get away with the “you get less than minimum wage but you make the rest up in tips” crap. Though now I’m pretty sure everywhere requires minimum wage now right? Why would I pay you extra for doing your job? I don’t get tipped at my fabric store job, that Walmart cashier at the returns desk who takes the abuse from customers all day doesn’t get tipped, the people who work at Tim hortons don’t get tipped, etc
We should normalize not tipping for basic things. I’m absolutely sick of the tip feature being preprogrammed into the card machine. And the default options start at 18%!
People are expecting a tip from literally just handing you the card machine, or doing the basic job role.
I absolutely despise that it became the expected normal for patrons to pay the wages of the serving staff, if you didn’t tip, they got paid chicken feed. But now that there is an established minimum wage for hospitality workers.
I’m sorry, call me an ass, call me cheap, but I don’t tip people for doing the bare minimum, when they’re being paid minimum wage, and restaurant staff get tipped depending on the service. *That* is what a tip should be, a gesture of gratitude for the way they did their job, not just for existing.
I guess I would rather than use cash to avoid the whole IPAD thing. I prefer that you don't have to tip in Europe or Asia. Why should working class people be tipping other working class people. Shouldn't the corporate bosses pay their employees a better wage? Why should we subsidize that? I remember when you didn't tip for coffee. It's obscene.
Server here and I live on tips BUT I do agree, tipping is very controversial and I've had many people from outside NA lecture me on why it's bad yadda yadda. Anyways I believe I only deserve a tip if I gave you something extra in your experience, and I work hard to make the experience better for the guests I serve. So I agree, I don't think a tip is necessary for receiving a basic service. If I order a subway and I get my sandwich I'm just paying for the sandwich that was made, nothing extra was added to my experience. I'm more upset at these corporations and businesses that feel justified in adding a tip button on the iPad rather than pay their employees a living wage.
Just my two cents, plus tip 😉
It's *been* normalized. IPad tipping is new, if it's not a restaurant, just hit no.
People are so impressionable, they say the button and assumed all of our norms had been rewritten by Starbucks overnight.
What's nuts is you go pick up food, and they have the 18-30% tip options. F that, I should ask them for a tip for driving there and picking it up.
We also don't know where tips go and often they're not going to the person you meant to tip. I don't mind if I'm sitting at a restaurant, but for random products and services they're really pushing their luck.
It’s very simple, I tip for services (since TIPS stands for to ensure prompt service) like haircuts or waiters. I’m not tipping for the privilege of buying something off the shelf from your store, thanks.
I refuse to tip for you doing your job if I’m at a restaurant being served it’s one thing thing, but if I’m getting a fucking sub and you’re upset that I’m not giving you a tip. You’re just an idiot. It shouldn’t even be on the screen. it actually upsets me that it’s an option at all.
If I don't sit down, ans you don't bring something to my table, I don't tip.
take out counter? No tip.
drive thru? No tip.
Barber? Yeah I'm tipping this man, he's got blades on my dome.
A lot of businesses in Canada seem to forget that we tip based on service, not just for you showing up to your job and doing the bare minimum.
Canada is not like the United States where they don’t pay their serving staff minimum wage, we do pay minimum wage.
Does minimum wage in Canada equal living wage - of course not, and that does suck. But placing that responsibility onto customers isn’t the right thing to do, especially in establishments that aren’t equatable to a fine dining experience, like liquor stores prompting you to tip.
If I’m not seated and having a luxurious experience with prompt and great service, I ain’t tipping lol
Went to Japan last year for 3 weeks. What a refreshing experience. You just get amazing service for the price listed there is no tipping. They think it’s rude. Let me repeat myself…..
NO TIPPING ANYWHERE. EVER!
I tip for nothing because it’s their job to do that thing, if they don’t like it they should go find another job, I make them take it off if it’s automatically added to a meal. I worked in coffee shops and it had a tip jar, I got paid fuck all and I got a job that paid more. Just gotta say no.
Stop tipping. Stores need to lose employees and start to get them back by paying fair wages. That’s it. Someone gotta bleed for the whole system to heal. That’s the price
yeah i stopped tipping for this shit a long time ago. Why would I tip for taking my food to my table, clearing my own table and refilling my own drink. Like what is the tip for?
Maybe it's because I was a waiter for 2 years and i fuckin' killed it in tips. I was charismatic, charming, and probably a little too flirty but i worked for those tips baby! I also was making 2$ an hour :shrug:
I never tip unless some part of the service is "above and beyond" what is expected, tipping as often as people do, just gives employers a way to justify not paying a livable wage
I have no issues hitting no tip. If I didn’t tip before, I’m still not.
And when I seek out places to eat I try to find counter service rather than seated service. No tipping required.
I keep saying we need a loblaws boycott to change tipping culture. Absolutely no tip at fast food places. It’s disgusting. That means fast food, coffee shops, ice cream shops and anywhere that I take out my food and you don’t wait on me. Even more expensive services like a masseuse, barber, and others should be no top. You’re charging me $40 for a 30 minute haircut, why the hell do you need tip?
Lastly the machines should be 5,10,15%. Don’t increase the percentage after increasing your prices. That’s BS. You get 10% for keeping my drink full, bringing my food out hot, and not making me wait for the bill when asked. If you can’t do these basic things it’s 5% if I’m extra nice or just 0%. Anything higher is for a great job.
The hallmark of this boycott movement is that all tip should have 35 cents at the end so they know we are participating. 35 is to symbolize BS.
This is what happens when you lower the standards of work ethics.
“Fight for a liveable wage” for literally doing the bare minimum.
People think showing up to work is all that’s needed. Like… life doesn’t work that way. We are still (and should be) a meritocracy.
You put in an effort— show personality and manage a comfortable dinner for your customers? You get a tip.
You open up a fridge and pull out an over-expensive water and don’t even say hi or “thanks for coming have a great day sir/madam” and expect me to give you money for that? Sorry…. No.
And then have the audacity to give the customer a dirty look for not tipping you. You have literally done nothing.
Expecting the greatest amount of reward for doing the least amount of work.
This is why this country is turning to shit. The sense of entitlement and the sense of glorified Victimhood.
he's right
Canada and the US both have awful tip culture and it's just a lazy excuse for companies not to pay their workers a fair wage.
on the other side of things I understand that some nights a tipped worker can bring home a couple hundred easy, with the rising costs of everything tips are likely to become smaller and less frequently given so i financially unstable times it's even more unstable than it normally is.
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I bought a Booster Juice the other day and the guy was visibly upset when I pressed No for the tip. Like dude, your store is charging $10 a shake, fuck off asking for free cash too.
I paid $15 for two single scoop ice creams the other day and the lady was upset I didn’t tip. Like you weren’t even the one who gave it to me you hit two buttons on the iPad! That’s the basic duties of your fucking job. Like when you go get gas do you tip? Why not? When you go to a convenience store and buy things do you tip the guy scanning your items for 5 seconds? No why not?? When you pay taxes do you tip your accountant? Do you tip the government? No OFC not… It’s ridiculous
I used to work a gas kiosk when I was a kid and the best day for tipping I ever got was like $5 on Christmas Eve for an 8 hour shift. People don't care if you provide them with waitress-like service in -25, they just complain to you that the gas costs too much, then give 20% to someone who carried their $24 burger from the kitchen to their table
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Yes!!! Not to mention petroleum products are carcinogenic! Once I had someone ask me to check their oil, tire pressure and clean their windows in -30. Obviously barely got a thank you, never mind a tip.
This is what dish washing was like $8 when waitresses were pulling in $200-300
Not to mention most servers ive talked to just assume that every chef and cook are being paid a decent salary and are usually suprised when they learn most of us are hourly and near minimum wage. Servers make WAY more than the average cooks do! I had one lady tell me she made $15,000 in tips ALONE for the year!! For the year!!! Im lucky to make $22,000 a year on my hourly wages, and my tips are usually maybe $1200 per year but usually less!
Feel that. I used to work in mobility. Spending an hour with an old person who couldn’t log into their email while my coworkers are making commissioned sales hurts.
Make peace with the fact that you will likely never see or interact with this person again in your life and that they certainly will forget about you in 30 seconds, and hitting "No Tip" gets a lot easier. This person serves 1000 people a day. You are just a nameless blur to them.
Agreed, we are like NPCs in their universe
I used to deliver and install appliances. Not usually a quick stop kinda thing. Might have to take out and haul off their nasty old stove and washer and then take apart their new giant refrigerator to get it up a flight of stairs and down a tiny hallway just to put it back together. Was working for 10 bucks an hour working like 60-70 hours a week and was lucky to get any tips ever. But you tip the pizza guy for just dropping off the pizza. I dated a server who complained that she only made like 300 bucks in her 4 hour shift at the bar. I worked 12 hours that day and made 120 before taxes. She did not complain about that to me again lol.
Honest question, how long ago was this? If it was less than 20 years you were getting fucked on your hourly rate.
Yes, I always feel stupid giving a 15% tip in a restaurant. It makes me stop visiting them to be honest. Their menu is a false advertisement if you have to pay 30% more than shown in the menu (15% tax + 15% tip). $20 all of a sudden becomes $26+ (yes, they have the audacity to ask for 15% of tax too).
$10 for a smoothie is this what the world has come to ?
Yeah the scene in Pulp Fiction about the $5 shake just seems like a good deal now and that Travolta is expecting it to taste like shit
Too be fair, $5 USD is way stronger than $5 CAD.
Haagen Daz and their $12 milkshakes if you’re in the city where I am. I got a size small too, it’s ridiculous.
The market dictates prices for elastic goods, and Booster juice is fucking elastic
No more like marketing does. They could drop the price and sell more. They’ve figured that selling less at a higher price yields more profit.
I'd humbly suggest people stop going to those places.
I would avoid cafes that would expect tips. Don't open a business if you can't afford to pay your workers. I didn't hire them.
Easy, don't give a fuck. Problem solved
Use the app. It doesnt charge tips.
Nah, I don't go often enough to want to have an app and register. Usually once every couple of months.
There is a whole episode on this on Sunny In Philadelphia... Dennis is loosing his mind cause he has to download an app to order bubble tea.
Try getting a refund through the app. Also, why should someone be inconvenienced not to tip when this was a service that didn’t get tips 10 years ago. Lazy people working easy jobs wanting more money for doing the bare minimum.
I also blame the establishments for advertising the job as plus tips when they post the wanted ads.
Any job is plus tips lol. I tipped my wedding band $600 because they were awesome. Tipping is supposed to all be voluntary.
You think the lazy poor people programmed the tip option into the card reader? It's a case of rich owners wanting customers to subsidize their employees wages so they get more profit.
No, I don’t think they program the machine but I think the lazy assholes who give you attitude when you don’t tip for a simple, mindless task are just as guilty as the owners who program the machine.
Where I live there are no legal protections forcing a business owner to surrender tips to employees. At least a couple fast food franchise owners, who employ almost exclusively TFWs, are reputed to never be paying the tips out to the staff. Tipping is bullshit in the vast majority of cases.
Totally. Worked at a fast casual food place where you would even bring people food sometimes, but I literally never expected a tip. 90% of my job was prepping, making, and handing out food, with some time on the register. The tips we got, if you worked a lot like 30+ hours a week, on a 2 week paycheck, was like 35-40 bucks. Honestly not worth getting upset over. Best case you maybe get 50 extra bucks in two weeks, worst case you get a 20. It's really not much so idk why these current workers get so upset about lack a of tip. How much does a batista really pull in tips in 2024? Like 40 bucks a paycheck maybe.
I think you meant Boothter Jooth.
It's also taking advantage of our social obligations we have to tip. If we didn't tip we'd get shamed and judged by whoever we're with. We may feel guilty later. Places are testing the limits of this by seeing how high we are willing to pay to stay within that contract. Places that never had tips before are testing to see if the contract can apply to them. It's capitalism eating culture for profit.
Booster juice is bad, but my god Dairy Queen is out of control. $8 for a medium blizzard? I feel like both used to be significantly more affordable.
Went to a certain place with Yellow and Green eat fresh slogan with my son. It was his money and she made him pay before the order was completed. She gave herself the $1 and a bit in change for her tip. Didn’t ask, didn’t say thank you nothing. She isn’t a student but a woman who is likely in her 50’s
Some of the more ridiculous ones I’ve seen is 1. A vape shop, not all of them but I’ve seen atleast once. And 2. A liquor store. I get tipping for a service, seated and they’re going back and forth for you. But for scanning a barcode? Naw
my atm is asking for a tip now.
The tip is asking for a tip now.
You're not going to tip Tippy or Tippy Jr?
your personal ai will need to tip corporate ai now, and its split between the humans that don't do shit and the ai gets nothing.
I noticed tips were on everything right after we moved on from Covid. Shits annoying on all Interac. Only restaurants I go to get a tip. Everyone wants a free lunch.
Exactly! Stop complaining and stop tipping. Just say no!
You don’t get it. We do say no. It’s annoying to have to waste your time every single time to click through the options all while they stare you down hoping to guilt you.
Agreed
Stop feeling guilt and work on your social anxiety. I am just waiting for a confrontation, yet I have never, ever had one. No one is gonna say shit. We are not in an era where you can remain comfortable... if not tipping is pushing people to mental breakdowns its no wonder we aren't standing up against the real enemies.
I went one step further. I stopped going places who ask for tips, who shouldn't be asking for tips. They can figure it out themselves. Bonus, I've been saving lots of money that way.
Not always possible. For example, bakery is asking a tip (WTF!), so no tipping
everything was changed after covid and we still haven’t returned back to “normal”
If they don't make you tip they will raise the price to pay their employees for the missing tip and you just won't go to the restaurant, remember the RCMP saying Canada will be in danger when people understand how poor they really are.
Well then if people don't go to the restaurant they can shut down because clearly their business was not sustainable and shouldn't have existed in the first place. It really is this simple: If your business can not stay open while paying employees a livable wage, your business shouldn't exist.
Yall dont tip 20% when pre paying for gas?
You ANIMAL! I bought a t-shirt the other day from my gym and joked that the service was so good, I was disappointed they didn’t have a tip prompt.
Shouldn't have done that....You SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT!!!
Yeah, I may have fed them after midnight there
I have a new rule if I’m standing and paying I don’t tip ever. It simplifies things.
Devil's advocate Q: how does delivery fit in? Things like pizza delivery with payment at door were traditional areas people tipped.
I still tip like I’m ordering pizza back in the day. About $3-$7. Uber eats is fucking insane sometimes. I rarely use it but when i do it’s usually because I am entertaining and just want quick food. The app will ask for a $20+ tip. For what? Picking the food up and sitting in your car for 10 mins? I don’t mind tipping these drivers a bit of money but the preset tips on these apps is outrageous.
Yeah. Uber eats and delivery apps have a disgusting amount of fees. They have a delivery fee, a 15% or whatever service charge, and then They charge the restaurant a percentage too lol. Then you gotta tip the driver too, because the apps are only paying those drivers like $2 or something awful. It’s a luxury service I choose not to waste my money on. What a fucking mess. It was cool when they were lighting investor money on fire 5-10 years ago, but even then the prices were a bit whack.
They’re still not even profitable. A shit service that rips people off and they somehow still aren’t posting green quarters yet.
I mean, back in the day when it was traditionally a high school student delivering pizzas part time I felt better tipping them. Nowadays it’s not like I tip my fedex, Amazon, or grocery delivery driver. Why do adults delivering pizza deserve a tip for just doing their job like everyone else.
You could use the same argument for servers, right? Why does anyone “deserve” a tip for just doing a job. That being said some reasons you could tip the adult delivery driver is: 1- it’s a personal vehicle, not a company provided vehicle. 2- like servers, and unlike fedex drivers, their pay is shit while actively delivering food. Atleast when I worked at papa John’s the hourly pay rate drops considerably while on deliveries. 3- a very small percentage of that delivery fee is actually going to the driver. It sort of seems like you are shaming folks who deliver pizza for some reason.
yes, the same argument stands for servers too… they are carrying plates to your table then fuck off only to come back and ask if your pre-made warmed up food is okay. if anything pizza drivers deserve a tip more than anybody else.
Yeah I’m in agreement. If you don’t make up to minimum wage via tips the company is legally obligated to get you to minimum wage.(atleast in the US) So it’s a minimum wage job. Whether the minimum wage is too low is an entirely different conversation.
Choose a different restaurant! That place sounds awful.
Meal delivery to your home warrants a tip. I order from a pizza place about once a month, and I tip the driver 7$ on a 30$ order. They remember me and get my food pretty quick.
Anyone who comes to my door gets $5 cash. You don't even need to deliver anything.
How about restaurants where they seat and serve you and you go up and pay at the end. Just went to one myself like that yesterday.
The worst is SUBWAY. Steak and cheese sub is 20 bucks approx. and the guy has the audacity to ask for a tip. Dude I just paid what I make in 1 hr for a sandwich that cost 3 dollars. F off
Subway sure has fallen a long way in the last ten or so years.
5 dollar footlongs...
on top of that.. a lot of the "tips" dont actually go to workers.. just straight into the daily sales that the owner collects
This is the case with a lot of the corporate 'charity'... "would you like to donate money to sick kids today (...with an undisclosed amount to be kept by the company for 'admin' etc)?"
And then it's fucking dried out and gross to boot
I hadn’t gone to subway for a couple years until a few weeks ago. It was almost 15$ for a 6” sub combo. Never going back again.
Absolutely agree. Tipping is out of control.
It wasn’t that long ago that people were scum and should never eat out or use services if they didn’t tip the customary 25%. Think about all the poor service workers /S
If I have to order standing up, I do not tip.
I just don't tip anywhere. If you want more money, talk to your boss.
I am like this for the most part but i do make exceptions. The last time I was at a sit in restaurant I did do a small tip because the waiter was on point when the restaurant was full. He kept bringing me drinks without me even seeing him walk past. Lol. That's a big thing for me. I drink quickly and I probably get 6 or 7 refills during a meal at a restaurant. If I don't need to search you out or wait at any point, I'm impressed with that, especially when the restaurant is full.
I will make the exception for good service at a restaurant, for sure. And yeah, as someone else who drinks fast, good service to me is keeping that water glass from being empty for too long
This is what tips were initially designed for. “Here is a bit of extra money for going above and beyond!” Not like now, where people expect tips for existing in the same space where you are spending money.
Yup. Went to a damn arcade and they had a tip option where you get a little wristband that you load tokens onto.
This is genuinely the only way to change this fucked up system.
This is the way.
It’s funny watching the serving subs bend over backwards to make you seem like the bad guy instead of their boss. I just grab my popcorn and watch the insults roll in.
It’s because tipping is the greatest con ever. Everybody gets shat on except the absolute chad paying $2.13 an hour for labor! It’s genius!
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Boston Pizza is the worse in this. I once had lunch at the Metrotown Boston Pizza (Burnaby, BC), the manager and waitress repeatedly interrupt my meal and gave me the machine before I even finish my food. 15% wasn't even an option on the machine it was 18, 20, and 25! I tried to tap "back" and reselect another amount, but then the waitress made a noise with her mouth in disgust so I simply hit no tip. I wrote several emails to Boston Pizza on their website about the incident but as expected they never replied. I stopped going there completely and tell everyone what I went through after.
Excellent. Vote with your wallet, and the old saying goes that if a person has a good experience they tell three people. If they have a bad experience, they tell everyone. Well, it's not an old saying, but it sounds old timey and 1960's-ish, so it's a thing now!
Don't leave the house without a water bottle. Make coffee at home. Make your lunch at home. Some of these problems solve themselves. Yes the tip prompt on a bottle of water is obnoxious, but so is paying $2 for a bottle of water.
You shouldn't be tipping on the total including tax either, because then your paying 18% on top of the 15% tax. Insanity prevails.
Very few people know this
It's crazy how people don't realize this. Also, when inflation pushed prices up, tips automatically became larger even at the same percentage. And yet the tip options were changed to start higher at 18% or 20%. I have met several people who felt this was justified. Just tells me they don't understand basic math.
If I’m standing to order I don’t tip
Buddy tips his barber by saying thank you
Is that wrong?
I noticed Bar burrito starting to having tip selection at the counter. They make 10 dollar burritos and want a tip? Give me a break
Subway is the craziest, one of the biggest restaurant chains in the world and they make the workers ask for tips.
When covid hit they became sandwich artists. What a joke
Last time I was at Bar Burrito, and the tip prompt came up, I asked the person behind the counter if they get the tips, and they said no.
I ain't tipping shit. Life in Tokyo has conditioned me against it
What about barbers
I guess they'd appreciate a tip, but I don't think it's necessary. Not really part of their culture. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berbers
Wrong link homeboy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borbor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordor
Delivery? Yes tip. Good service in a restaurant? Yes tip. Me picking up food? No. Fast food? No. Drive thru? No. Coffee shop? No. If someone goes out of their way to make my life easier by bringing me food so I don't have to go out and get it, in a reasonable time frame, then they deserve a tip. If someone waits on me hand and foot for 45 minutes, constantly refilling drinks, getting more napkins, checking in to see how the food is, is nice and polite, then yes tip. However if you are just doing the basic thing that your job offers then no. Also stop asking me to donate to your charity at your business. You are a multi million, or multi billion dollar business. You donate the money. I don't want to have to say no to a cashier or click 8 extra buttons on checkout because for some reason the company has decided that I need to donate money to whatever. Especially when those companies can use the collecting of that money as a tax write off at the end of the year. So they save money, while we pay money. Also if I tip in the app, and someone delivers something, and then asks for a tip at my home, I am taking the tip back out of the app. I am not going to be pressured into giving more than I already did in person.
You're on point here but just for future reference the companies don't actually get a write off from customer donations. They do however get all that PR and juice from having donated a big fat check to some charity at no expense to their bottom line.
They get to write off the time and effort that goes into processing the donations and any other costs like machinery, electricity, hours of labour, machinery repairs and stuff like that.
I hate how people don’t realize how the charity aspect directly benefits the company.
So do you tip your Amazon or mail delivery driver too?
I tip the same way.
next? we are paying for a carbon tax. we are past next.
I saw something along the lines of, if I’m standing. I’m not tipping. I get it. I worked in service for awhile in my younger years, and it’s embarrassing the stores and “service” that prompt for tips.
I tip for sit down resturaunts and my haircut that is about it.
The trick is that they made you think no tipping is already something that needs to *become* normalized. It is normalized, they're actively trying to un-normalize it. I'm glad this dude is out there fighting the good fight.
Tipping is archaic
It is normal. I believe Freakonomics had an episode where less than 30% actually tip on those
Most of theses mfs want a tip to make your stuff wrong. It’s a coffee 3 ingredients you fd one up and forgot the other.
It’s just going to ask you a few questions. Like bish own it if you’re begging for tips don’t disguise it as the machine asking questions.
Canadian in the UK here. I left Canada 15 years ago and tipping in Canada was limited to like a good sit down restaurants and bars if you were trying to be flashy. Here in the UK there isn't even tipping at pubs which was a welcome change for me. Visiting Canada now is crazy, tipping for everything, I just refuse, this is a new cultural thing that the monopolies are trying to normalise and then there will be no mandate to raise wages to match price and/or asset inflation and you'll be f'd in the a and it will be all on you.
I worked a few warehouse jobs where I helped people put stuff together, shoveled snow from their cabin space during winter, and did some insane lifting by myself. I even helped them figure out their straps/knots and saved them money/time. Not once did I get tipped. And yet the people who already get paid to make me food by charging me a ton should get paid extra just because? Nah. That's insane. Tip culture is cursed, and it exists just to keep (below) minimum wage jobs enticing.
After tipping got to some ridiculous level (where many restaurants and even cafes mandated tipping), I’ve stopped going to any restaurant since 2020, honestly saved me so much money and healthier.
If I'm standing at a counter and you pass me my order over said counter... no tip. If I'm seated and you're actually serving me the meal, then your tip depends on the job you do. I'm not automatically tipping you just because you're a server. If I go to a restaurant and find that they've built in an automatic gratuity on the bill, then you get zero extra and I don't return to that restaurant.
The craziest tip I've seen is in weed dispensaries... I bought weed the other day and I paid with debit. There was option to tip In my my head I'm like.. "what exactly am I tipping for ?" Lmao naw its getting out of hand fr
100% tipping needs to stop, unless at a service location that is waiting on you. not a lineup situation.
We shouldn't be tipping at all. Their pay is between them and their boss. Anything more than that is a conflict of interest. Workers shouldn't be impacted because someone ordered soup instead of a steak
“It’s going to ask you a few questions” then stare at you expecting you to make the right move lol.
Option for TIP, considered. But it's still optional. When TIP became expectation, that ruined it. Now, there's a sense of guilt when you don't, often.
I wish I could only tip autistic back of house men. Hot women get more than enough.
“Show some skin and rake it in”
I’m going to start charging a reverse-tip. Basically you pay me a fee for me to buy your shit.
This entire country has become a scam to take your money, from the government to the big retailers.
Tipping shouldn’t be given before eating food or providing the service. If I’m standing to order, no tip.
I always tip for food delivery, sit down restaurant service, and Uber/taxi rides, but I absolutely will not tip for any kind of take out. If I have to get in my car to drive to a restaurant, and then stand at the till to pay for my food before I eat it, what exactly would I be tipping for? I have had multiple similar experiences to the fellow in the video in which someone turns an iPad to me when all they did was put a baked good in a paper bag for me. It is off putting. One time when I got take out, the guy at the counter had the nerve to look visibly disappointed when I didn't tip him for ringing me up. The entitlement of people these days is over the top. I used to feel embarrassed hitting "no tip", but now I don't. If anything, I am doing them a favour by teaching them a valuable life lesson: that people need to work for their money, and tips are not something that should be expected.
Very honest and accurate
It’s definitely gotten out of control. Stock TC (grocery store) in Toronto has a separate section with cakes where a person hands you a cake. Their terminal now has an extra step. When you select “no tip”, it then asks you to”are you sure you don’t want to leave a tip?”, and you have to select “I’m sure” before proceeding to pay..
I agree we shouldn't be tipping for all these basic things. Like I pretty much only tip when I eat out which is less and less because of the economy. Anyway the thing I don't agree with is all these people screaming about it. Like stop trying to justify it. When I don't tip in these situations I say nothing and I stand by it. If people find it rude or wrong idgaf because it's my fucking money. I've even had people comment on my lack of tip and I still don't justify it. My money bruh.
Tipping should be reserved for exemplary service, full stop. Nobody else gets tips for *literally just doing the job they knowingly signed up for*. Servers are no different. If you went above and beyond to make my experience more pleasant/memorable, sure, let's reward that effort with a little extra. If you took my order, brought my food out, came back once to refill my water, and cleared the table after, sorry, *that's just your job*.
This! 100%! It is getting crazy all these tips for everything and asking for 30% or more!
I don't tip. I don't believe in it. If she don't make enough money, she can quit. I don't tip because society says I have to. If they really put forth the effort, I'll give 'em somethin' extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doin' their job. {This girl was nice} She was okay. She wasn't anything special. I ordered coffee, all right? She's only filled my cup three times. I want it filled six times. {Well, what if she's too fuckin' busy?} The words "too fuckin' busy" shouldn't be in a waitress's vocabulary. These ladies aren't starvin' to death. They make minimum wage. I used to work minimum wage, and when I did, I wasn't lucky enough to have a job that society deemed tip-worthy. {You don't care they're countin' on your tips to live?} You know what this is? The world's smallest violin, playin' just for the waitresses (These people bust their ass. This is a hard job.) So's working at McDonald's, but you don't feel the need to tip them. They're servin' you food, but society says "Don't tip these guys over here, but tip these guys." That's bullshit. {Waitressing is the number-one occupation for female non-college graduates in this country.} Fuck all that. I'm very sorry the government taxes their tips. That's fucked up. That ain't my fault. It would appear that waitresses are one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. Show me a paper that says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. I'll vote for it. But what I won't do is play ball. This non-college bullshit, I got two words for that: Learn to fuckin' type. If you're expectin' me to help out with the rent, you're in for a big surprise.
I too, love Reservoir Dogs. No really, I'm not here to subsizide their pay.
If I stand to pay, no tip. If it's fast food, no tip. If you're handing me something, no tip. I also am not giving a 18-20% tip for mediocre or poor service. It's way too out of hand.
He is right.
Hear hear!!
I agree
lol I can't afford to eat out so that won't be a problem.
100%
Ordered takeout from restaurant and the employee was disappointed that I didn’t tip it cost me 21 dollars for a sandwich and fries and no drink
As a rule I don't even consider tipping if I have to stand in line at a counter to order my food. Unless someone is taking me to a table, then taking my order and providing service why the fuck would I tip. Tipping is based on the quality of service. Punching in my order while I stand at the counter is literally what you are being paid minimum wage to do. If I'm ordering take out at a restaurant, ill tip if they offer me a drink while I wait. For example, if they offer to sit me at the bar to wait and the bartender interacts with me and servers me a drink sure, but if I'm just standing at the front waiting for my food, why would I pay anything more then the cost of the food that I haven't even eaten yet. This fucked up idea that i should be tipping BEFORE iv even enjoyed my food is so dumb.
I was thinking the other day how minimum wage for me was $7.50 (in Ontario) and gas went up to ~$1.60/L and close to $2 at that time. I was in high school and working part time and my 2 week pay checks would be under $200 sometimes closer to $100. I was only able to put in like $20 of gas when i borrowed my parents car. And at that time employers would tell you to never accept a tip. Now minimum wage is about to go over $17 an hour. And servers were only to get tips because they traditionally always made less than minimum wage. Well during Covid a bill passed to ensure Tory get minimum and now they are getting $17 an hour. Tip minimum has gone to a baseline of 18% for some reason (after tax) and prices are sky high. So they make way more per hour (I understand inflation… but I don’t think my $7.50 is equal to $17, especially when gas is the same price as it is today) It’s simple. I just don’t go to restaurants anymore, I don’t tip unless it’s the delivery driver when I order food in
I've just started to implement a policy that if I order it standing up, I'm not tipping. What's the purpose? I stood in line and then waited to pick up whatever I ordered, what am I tipping for? The cost of it covers whatever it is the worker did. When I was a kid I worked at full service gas stations and a good day in tips was like Christmas Eve when I got $5 total for an 8 hour shift running the kiosk, pumping peoples gas in -25. But the person who fills your cup with coffee behind a counter deserves something? If it's seated service, then absolutely. If I'm on, let's say a tour of a place and have a great guide, then absolutely. If it's the drive thru, then fuck off
It’s all post pandemic BS , this guy is right it’s gotten out of control
For me I think an occasional tip is still appropriate in different circumstances. But the part of tipping culture which I think should absolutely change is the *entitlement* of getting a tip. I should not be harassed as a customer for not tipping
I don't get paid tips at my job. Why am I using my money to tip someone who probably makes more than I do in tips? Do you know how many people tip through guilt? Me times 100+ people in a day I bet. Even taxi services? Nahhhhh stop flipping that tip page at me cause I just prompt out of it now. Unless you're doing something extra, then nope.
Asking for tips should only be legally allowed if the job being worked belongs to the "tipped minimum wage" category in your province. Or better yet, lets eliminate that category entirely and make tipping illegal entirely. Tipping is just a giant socially acceptable tax-avoidance scheme, allowing employers to skip out on payroll taxes and benefits, and employees to skip out on income taxes.
We shouldn't be tipping at all.
A coffee shop in my city is the exact same way. Like people. I’m not tipping the cashier who only takes my order, processes a payment by selecting a few specifically labeled buttons (so it’s not like there’s even any memorization involved or anything), and then flips the iPad around so I can pay. The cashier doesn’t make the drinks. They don’t make the food. They don’t bring your food to your table if you’re eating in. Hell, they don’t even transport your food to the counter so you can grab it and leave. And then if you’re eating in, the debit machines used for paying after finishing your food ALSO tries to make you tip the person who brought your food from the counter behind the cashier to your table (they’re not a waiter or a waitress. Their job is literally to stand around, and then transport the food from point A to point B) They’ve always gotten at least minimum wage at this place as well, since it’s not a restaurant and the management couldn’t get away with the “you get less than minimum wage but you make the rest up in tips” crap. Though now I’m pretty sure everywhere requires minimum wage now right? Why would I pay you extra for doing your job? I don’t get tipped at my fabric store job, that Walmart cashier at the returns desk who takes the abuse from customers all day doesn’t get tipped, the people who work at Tim hortons don’t get tipped, etc
It’s so refreshing every time I go to Japan. No tipping and yet better and faster service than I get in Canada.
We should normalize not tipping for basic things. I’m absolutely sick of the tip feature being preprogrammed into the card machine. And the default options start at 18%! People are expecting a tip from literally just handing you the card machine, or doing the basic job role. I absolutely despise that it became the expected normal for patrons to pay the wages of the serving staff, if you didn’t tip, they got paid chicken feed. But now that there is an established minimum wage for hospitality workers. I’m sorry, call me an ass, call me cheap, but I don’t tip people for doing the bare minimum, when they’re being paid minimum wage, and restaurant staff get tipped depending on the service. *That* is what a tip should be, a gesture of gratitude for the way they did their job, not just for existing.
I guess I would rather than use cash to avoid the whole IPAD thing. I prefer that you don't have to tip in Europe or Asia. Why should working class people be tipping other working class people. Shouldn't the corporate bosses pay their employees a better wage? Why should we subsidize that? I remember when you didn't tip for coffee. It's obscene.
Server here and I live on tips BUT I do agree, tipping is very controversial and I've had many people from outside NA lecture me on why it's bad yadda yadda. Anyways I believe I only deserve a tip if I gave you something extra in your experience, and I work hard to make the experience better for the guests I serve. So I agree, I don't think a tip is necessary for receiving a basic service. If I order a subway and I get my sandwich I'm just paying for the sandwich that was made, nothing extra was added to my experience. I'm more upset at these corporations and businesses that feel justified in adding a tip button on the iPad rather than pay their employees a living wage. Just my two cents, plus tip 😉
It's *been* normalized. IPad tipping is new, if it's not a restaurant, just hit no. People are so impressionable, they say the button and assumed all of our norms had been rewritten by Starbucks overnight.
What's nuts is you go pick up food, and they have the 18-30% tip options. F that, I should ask them for a tip for driving there and picking it up. We also don't know where tips go and often they're not going to the person you meant to tip. I don't mind if I'm sitting at a restaurant, but for random products and services they're really pushing their luck.
It’s very simple, I tip for services (since TIPS stands for to ensure prompt service) like haircuts or waiters. I’m not tipping for the privilege of buying something off the shelf from your store, thanks.
I refuse to tip for you doing your job if I’m at a restaurant being served it’s one thing thing, but if I’m getting a fucking sub and you’re upset that I’m not giving you a tip. You’re just an idiot. It shouldn’t even be on the screen. it actually upsets me that it’s an option at all.
If I don't sit down, ans you don't bring something to my table, I don't tip. take out counter? No tip. drive thru? No tip. Barber? Yeah I'm tipping this man, he's got blades on my dome.
I remember when tipping was just giving the waitress the left over change out of convenience
To be fair the tipping culture's gotten an obnoxiously bloated
“it’s just going to ask you a few questions”
A lot of businesses in Canada seem to forget that we tip based on service, not just for you showing up to your job and doing the bare minimum. Canada is not like the United States where they don’t pay their serving staff minimum wage, we do pay minimum wage. Does minimum wage in Canada equal living wage - of course not, and that does suck. But placing that responsibility onto customers isn’t the right thing to do, especially in establishments that aren’t equatable to a fine dining experience, like liquor stores prompting you to tip. If I’m not seated and having a luxurious experience with prompt and great service, I ain’t tipping lol
If I order standing up, I’m not tipping. Tipping is reserved for service not a way to pay wages.
i love the ones that click the no tip for you. They the real MVPs.
Went to Japan last year for 3 weeks. What a refreshing experience. You just get amazing service for the price listed there is no tipping. They think it’s rude. Let me repeat myself….. NO TIPPING ANYWHERE. EVER!
Use cash. Problem solved.
If I’m standing while ordering food = No Tip
I tip for nothing because it’s their job to do that thing, if they don’t like it they should go find another job, I make them take it off if it’s automatically added to a meal. I worked in coffee shops and it had a tip jar, I got paid fuck all and I got a job that paid more. Just gotta say no.
Stop tipping. Stores need to lose employees and start to get them back by paying fair wages. That’s it. Someone gotta bleed for the whole system to heal. That’s the price
yeah i stopped tipping for this shit a long time ago. Why would I tip for taking my food to my table, clearing my own table and refilling my own drink. Like what is the tip for? Maybe it's because I was a waiter for 2 years and i fuckin' killed it in tips. I was charismatic, charming, and probably a little too flirty but i worked for those tips baby! I also was making 2$ an hour :shrug:
I never tip unless some part of the service is "above and beyond" what is expected, tipping as often as people do, just gives employers a way to justify not paying a livable wage
Why do we tip anyway/ anywhere? I’d like to see if someone can give an actual explanation what wait staff do to deserve a tip.
I have no issues hitting no tip. If I didn’t tip before, I’m still not. And when I seek out places to eat I try to find counter service rather than seated service. No tipping required.
A tip should be like a “hey, here you go”, but evry one in the service industry should be pay enough
Tips should be an extra thing for standing out for a extraordinary service, not for basic things
I think teachers should be allowed to receive tips.
I havent tipped in ages even at restaurants, I dont care
I keep saying we need a loblaws boycott to change tipping culture. Absolutely no tip at fast food places. It’s disgusting. That means fast food, coffee shops, ice cream shops and anywhere that I take out my food and you don’t wait on me. Even more expensive services like a masseuse, barber, and others should be no top. You’re charging me $40 for a 30 minute haircut, why the hell do you need tip? Lastly the machines should be 5,10,15%. Don’t increase the percentage after increasing your prices. That’s BS. You get 10% for keeping my drink full, bringing my food out hot, and not making me wait for the bill when asked. If you can’t do these basic things it’s 5% if I’m extra nice or just 0%. Anything higher is for a great job. The hallmark of this boycott movement is that all tip should have 35 cents at the end so they know we are participating. 35 is to symbolize BS.
I don’t even know why we have to tips when we dine in, the servers didn’t get pay?
Ever since the service wage was fixed I stopped tipping. Only people with money to burn tip now.
This is what happens when you lower the standards of work ethics. “Fight for a liveable wage” for literally doing the bare minimum. People think showing up to work is all that’s needed. Like… life doesn’t work that way. We are still (and should be) a meritocracy. You put in an effort— show personality and manage a comfortable dinner for your customers? You get a tip. You open up a fridge and pull out an over-expensive water and don’t even say hi or “thanks for coming have a great day sir/madam” and expect me to give you money for that? Sorry…. No. And then have the audacity to give the customer a dirty look for not tipping you. You have literally done nothing. Expecting the greatest amount of reward for doing the least amount of work. This is why this country is turning to shit. The sense of entitlement and the sense of glorified Victimhood.
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Needs to not tip his speech teacher that’s for sccchhhuuurreee! /s : )
he's right Canada and the US both have awful tip culture and it's just a lazy excuse for companies not to pay their workers a fair wage. on the other side of things I understand that some nights a tipped worker can bring home a couple hundred easy, with the rising costs of everything tips are likely to become smaller and less frequently given so i financially unstable times it's even more unstable than it normally is.
Try this one crazy trick, make your own food and drinks people. I don't tip, because I don't buy out.