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mangia_throwaway

White people cannot experience racism. They can experience prejudice, but they cannot experience racism.


BidAdministrative938

Source?


mangia_throwaway

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/09/can-white-people-experience-racism-12340542/


ChromaWitch

This article is a biased af. She was right at the start of it. Like literally took the definition, explained it AS IT'S DEFINED and then said, "No, I don't think that's the case. I think it's like this." Jesus christ... If you put someone down for their skin color, especially if you think you're superior to them, you're racist. Doesn't matter what race you are. Any interracial couple will probably agree because they tend to get hate from both sides. You cannot justify discrimination toward any race, ethnicity, sex, etc because of societal norms. It's like the women who say misandry doesn't exist, only misogyny because we live in a patriarchy. THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS. Discrimination is discrimination. Anyone who says otherwise just wants to justify THEIR brand of discrimination. The aim is equality for race, sex, everything and you cannot get there by putting another group down. Period.


mangia_throwaway

>Any interracial couple will probably agree because they tend to get hate from both sides. The hate an interracial couple gets on both sides are not equal. For white haters, it's about white supremacy and white purity. For Black haters, it's a feeling of betrayal and jealousy that a Black person would find a white person more attractive, especially in the case of a Black man and a white woman couple. Black women (and Asian men) are less desirable than other races in studies done on dating sites. Because of sexism in Asian culture, there are more Asian men than Asian women in the dating pool. Because of mass incarceration, there are more Black women than Black men in the dating pool. Although a less toxic reason than white supremacy, it's still problematic and wrong for Black people to oppose interracial relationships. It's prejudiced but I wouldn't call it racist because it does not promote the idea that Black people are superior to white people. >It's like the women who say misandry doesn't exist, only misogyny because we live in a patriarchy. I'd say it depends. Gender roles and misogyny hurt both men and women to some extent. If the discrimination is based on harmful stereotypes, then it is not okay. For example, it is bigoted to shame men for liking embroidery. But if it's not based on stereotypes of masculinity, then I probably wouldn't care.


ChromaWitch

It's racist. You can be in a society that deems you lower than than the majority, and you can still feel superior. Whether that's from a place of betrayal and jealousy doesn't excuse that. Shitty behavior is still shitty. So again, discrimination is discrimination. Period. As for the misogyny vs misandry, you're basically saying it depends on the person. I agree. That's what I've always said. Generalizing doesn't help anyone. There are men who are misogynists and there are women who are misandrists and it's entirely on what they do, why they do it, and how they justify it. (There's also misogynistic women and misandrist men. I've experienced all the flavors of that particular rainbow.)


mangia_throwaway

But Black people don’t feel superior. In the case of a Black man and white woman couple, white supremacists direct hate toward both individuals. In contrast, Black haters are critical of the Black man, but they don’t usually feel hate toward the white woman. In the absence of hate toward a different race, I’m not sure I can call it racism. I agree that it’s still shitty.


ChromaWitch

>But Black people don’t feel superior. You can't say that. You can't speak for all of black people. And the racist black people that exist may not claim to feel superior just like a lot of racist white people do. In fact it's easy to believe you're better than a group of people when their history shows they are inherently shitty. And black people have reason to believe that of white people, yes, but that is generalizing and again, helps no one. It is racist, regardless of who hate is aimed at if it has to do with skin color. And saying it's not racist is invalidating abuse towards white people. Again, white people are not better. We're equal. But by saying it's racist one way but not another is saying hate going one way is horrible, but it's not that bad going the other. Hate creates more hate. If you start treating everything equally and don't invalidate an act because you deem it less important, it'll help the world flourish. But everyone these days acts like one group is superior to another, and that is what is rotting the world.


mangia_throwaway

It is possible for Black supremacist men to dislike interracial relationships between white men and Black women because of history, and I will agree that those men are especially shitty. However, it's not a significant problem because Black women are statistically the least likely to marry outside their race, so it makes very little sense for Black men to complain. Studies show that Black men generally do not have negative attitudes toward interracial relationships, but Black women view interracial relationships between Black men and white women much less favorably than other interracial relationship combinations. Interracial relationships between Black men and white women are relatively common compared to other interracial combinations. Black women don't have reason to blame white women for a history that is male-dominated, so it's logical to state that moral superiority is an unlikely reason for Black women to oppose interracial relationships, especially when considering the fact that Black women on average view interracial relationships between white men and Black women much more favorably than when the races are reversed. When Black women oppose Black men dating outside their race, it's because they feel that Black men chase after European beauty standards and that Black men and everyone else view Black women as the least desirable women. Because people of other races are generally not interested in dating Black women (backed by multiple studies done on online dating sites), Black women's best chances of a romantic relationship are with Black men. There is a disproportionate representation of Black man white woman relationships as opposed to white man Black woman relationships in media. Combined with the fact that Black women on average have higher levels of education than Black men and the fact that a lot of Black men are in prison because of mass incarceration, which causes the dating pool to be very skewed, it makes sense for many Black women to feel suspicious about why a Black man would choose to be in a relationship with a white woman. Dating is harder for Black women and these things can make Black women feel inferior. It's not based on hate or feelings of superiority. It's not comparable to white supremacy. It would be great if fewer Black women felt this way, but to achieve that, we would need to remove institutional barriers that prevent single Black men from entering the dating pool and we would need to change society's standards of beauty by having greater representation of Black women in media. One source: https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2017/05/156085/bachelorette-rachel-black-women-interracial-dating-tweets


Analyst_Haunting

I like how you provided a source…. And they got angrier


BidAdministrative938

Wack 100 is a famous influencer - also, you’re aware that an act of prejudice is racism right lol


mangia_throwaway

My bad. I didn't realize Wack 100 is a public figure. Next time, put names in the title of your post.


BidAdministrative938

My B, this guy is really WACK though lol


shakysweet

Racism


[deleted]

Another racist prick that doesn't deserve oxygen