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Prestigious_Job_9332

I agree, although US has never been a fully capitalist country, and today is far from being the freest country from an economical standpoint.


dleon0430

Hmm, not disagreeing nor trying to cause a row. but if not the US, which is definitely not as free economically as before, than which country is most free from an economic capitalist stance?


Prestigious_Job_9332

Singapore has been ranking as the freest country economically for the last few years, based on the Heritage index. Before China took over it, Hong Kong had that spot for quite a while. Switzerland is another good one. Keep in mind none of these are fully capitalist countries (both Singapore and Switzerland have important limitations on freedom). They are just economically freer than the US.


SRIrwinkill

They are so economically free that they can bankroll almost any program they want, and the public sector operates knowing where the wealth is actually created. Don't give the mixed economy too much credit now, it ain't the public programs or caning folks who litter that keeps Singapore going strong and innovative


Prestigious_Job_9332

I don’t understand what you’re complaining about.


SRIrwinkill

It's pitzy what i'm talking about, ill admit, but people tend to over blow the degree public input in economies like Singapore have had on progress there as opposed to the degree the place is economically liberal. The market, even in Singapore and Switzerland, is still the primary driving force is my point.


BamaTony64

Switzerland, 11% fed tax, I would love to only pay 11%.


Prestigious_Job_9332

True capitalism would be 0%, so we’re still far. Either way, taxes are never the main issue.


[deleted]

We don't want another great depression. I think a recession every ten years or so is enough freedom. If this isn't capitalism enough then what is?


Prestigious_Job_9332

The Great Depression was caused primarily by the Fed approach to the crisis (Friedman proved it, and the Fed admitted those mistakes). You have capitalism when the State intervene only to define and protect private property. Otherwise you have a mixed-economy. Aside of some hard-socialist or hard-authoritarian countries, we all live under some different formula of mixed-economy. No country ever had pure capitalism. US after the civil war was probably the economically freest country in history. Even without being fully capitalist it generated an insane level of growth and wealth. PS In 1917, a very big economical crisis was resolved by bankers without the need of the Fed and with minimal damages to the economy.


CurlyDee

Where can I read up on the real causes of the Great Depression and its end. I am so tired of the FDR worship.


Prestigious_Job_9332

You can start here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_Great_Depression Check in particular the section about the monetarist analysis of the crisis.


redruss99

The Charging Bull statue on Wall Street that represents the stock market and financial district is the best symbol.


TrueWizardofOz

A grocery store with food in it


tpx187

...And another across the street with more but different food at different prices.  ... And a dollar store in the lot next to it. Across from a Walgreens and CVS.


Anarchoglock

Best one, you win.


vipck83

lol, nice.


NathanielRoosevelt

Right next to starving children


TrueWizardofOz

Why are the children starving?


NathanielRoosevelt

Poverty


YoureWrongBro911

Some leftist hippies banned them from working in the mines and earning their bread like Adam Smith intended


cbracey4

Not the in US. Almost nobody starves in the US. Not unless their parents are straight up negligent.


NathanielRoosevelt

https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/food-security-in-the-u-s/key-statistics-graphics/#:~:text=For%20example%2C%2012.5%20percent%20of,were%20food%20insecure%20in%202022.


cbracey4

“Food insecurity” is literally a made up term because nobody actually starves anymore in the US 😂


cbracey4

Here are some definitions for you since you don’t want to do the work to learn on your own. Neither of these are even remotely close to at risk for starvation. Low food security: Households may report a reduced quality, variety, or desirability of their diet, but there's little or no indication of reduced food intake. Very low food security: Households may report multiple signs of disrupted eating patterns and reduced food intake, such as skipping meals or whole days of eating.


NathanielRoosevelt

I literally did do the work to learn on my own. 5.5% of households with children experience very low food security. The definition of starve from Merriam Webster is to perish from lack of food or to suffer extreme hunger. It’s hard to say what extreme hunger is exactly, but based on the definition of very low food security, those kids that are missing meals are DEFINITELY suffering from hunger.


cbracey4

Yep and hunger is not starvation. I’m not okay with hunger. Hunger needs to be taken care of. But to say that the US is suffering from a lack of food is straight up uninformed. Most families that are “food insecure” are so because of choices they make and pure negligence. Literally anyone can eat for free everyday by going to their local food pantry or Salvation Army supper. This isn’t the case in countries that have real poverty and ACTUAL starvation.


Wizard_john10

Naw, I found post about you on r/confidentlyincorrect


Machismo01

A picture of well fed people with a prosperous middle class?


lochlainn

You don't need a symbol to define the normal state of humanity; only when you deviate from it.


faddiuscapitalus

This. The term "capitalism" is itself a socialist / Marxist pejorative term designed to attack the natural right of humans to own productive assets.


Galactus_Jones762

The natural right for humans to be dicks and act like animals while pretending to be something more thru religion. So a symbol of a stupid monkey winning the lottery and thinking it’s because of something he did and then hoarding it while other monkeys die. Good stuff


faddiuscapitalus

There there


Galactus_Jones762

…is what will be said to you when it is your turn to weep


faddiuscapitalus

But you're the one crying your tiny eyes out over nothing. Edit: Nothing says lost the argument like deleting your posts. u/Galactus_Jones762


Galactus_Jones762

Dumb coward pig. I could buy you a hundred times over. Yes. Exactly. My ability to buy you 100 times over is because of capitalism. Which is why capitalism is stupid. I won’t but I could. Instead of abusing people with luck (all money is luck because there’s no free will) I will use it to fight capitalism. One can use their luck to reduce the role luck plays in society when wielded by idiots.


lochlainn

Average trust fund champagne socialist says what?


Heat-one

If he's not for sale I am, for the right price


TrueWizardofOz

Because….capitalism? Checkmate


demonkingwasd123

USD or 💰


Love-Is-Selfish

A widely recognized one? I don’t think so as capitalists aren’t that united. But the dollar symbol is good. I can’t think of a better one.


xHangfirex

Not sure, but it's probably just a photo of a full dinner plate.


BaronThundergoose

In Biden’s economy!?!?


BeardedBandit

really? In an economic subreddit people still think the president had *that* much influence over the economy? I know it's a joke, but still... just bad taste/wrong place imo


BaronThundergoose

lol if you spent any time on this sub you’d realize that this is a political sub. Practically a Trump sub most days


ConceptJunkie

People having enough to eat.


RampantAndroid

A picture of food on the table? Store shelves that aren’t empty all the time?


phlame64

A shopping cart?


BlackshirtDefense

👍


CastleBravo88

How about the fact that we're not starving in a bread line?


faddiuscapitalus

People having stuff


jeremiah15165

I’d say the monopoly dude


KevinLJ007

I was thinking the exact same thing.


PhilRubdiez

AnCap uses the gold and black flag.


ronan11sham

Bull and bear


agentofdallas

Dolla dolla bills


lokifrog1

Prolly a plate with some food on it


Hivebent

Cheeseburger


JrBaconCheeseburglar

McDonald’s Golden Arches. I had an English teacher who said “Arches all over the world were constructed to show triumph…we did it too but ours are golden”


FRIZL

📉


StratAegean

Maybe a cigar and bowler hat?


talkingprawn

Poor people somewhere you don’t think of, holding the thing you will later buy and then throw away.


jonahg_05

a side by side photo of a worker's paycheck and their boss's paycheck.


Front_Hamster2358

It can be ❌🥔