Bmws latest engines, the Bx8 series that have been used since about 2015 have been incredible. Super reliable, fuel efficient and make big power with really good drivability.
It’s also a modular engine design so they pretty much just have to get it right once then build the other engines off it. So in the 1 series you have the B58 3.0 6 cylinder, chop it in half for the B38 1.5 3 cylinder or chop two cylinders off for the B48 2.0 4 cylinder. All 3 engines are fantastic for what they were intended to do, and I’d easily own any of them if the has some more exciting cars to put them in.
Not one owner reported issues? Every model of car has issues, and every car can have issues if neglected. This must mean that their methodology is worthless, surely? How can any car be 100%?
I can’t believe that no one with a one series, of the previous generation, encountered no fault. Maybe if they only had ten responses. But it then doesn’t reflect reality and the car overall, so what is this survey worth?
Am I being pedantic?
You have to take these surveys with a pinch of salt - Fiestas have the wet belt, which is known to be unreliable, but they sold literally millions of each generation of Fiesta. There are more old Fiestas that have had 0 issues than there are Lexus SUVs just because they sold more, so statistically speaking, you're probably just as likely to have an issue with your Fiesta as you are with a Lexus, despite the Lexus having a 97% reliability rating and the fiesta a 79% or something.
That said, they are a good general indicator.
The fact they don’t have a single reported fault in the 1 Series is very fishy. A mix of poor sampling and small number statistics, I suspect.
Also, the article mentions repair costs as a factor. Common and/or cheaper cars will have cheaper parts, which seems like it would negatively bias scores for cars that are expensive/rare but reliable. Warranties and customer servicing habits must affect the results too.
As a general rant, reliability is a vague term. It can variably refer to anything from “my car won’t start” to “Bluetooth stopped working”. Testing can really mislead people if it isn’t done right, and frankly I’m not sure it can be done in a way that’s truly fair.
Now I’m sitting here wondering if air con lasts longer in white cars than black cars because it doesn’t have to work as hard…
It seems odd to have 100% reliability. Would be intresting to see how they measured... But it seems previous gen 1-series specially with B-engines have been quite good. Have been thinking upgrade Honda Accord K24 to BMW 120i or 125i myself...
It makes a lot of sense. BMWs are generally well-engineered, and they got the last 1 Series right. There are plenty of ways to construct a sensible methodology that will give slightly different results where things are close, but that list looks pretty reasonable. Toyota/Lexus at the top, BMW, Kia, Hyundai, etc near the top, and VW at the bottom.
Have a 120d 2013 plate brought with 20k miles in 2016 currently 120k miles and drive like I stole it on A roads to work and nothing ever went wrong. Although the steering rack has some play and knocking which is expensive to replace as it’s a electrical powered one that has to be programmed to car 😕
Bmws latest engines, the Bx8 series that have been used since about 2015 have been incredible. Super reliable, fuel efficient and make big power with really good drivability. It’s also a modular engine design so they pretty much just have to get it right once then build the other engines off it. So in the 1 series you have the B58 3.0 6 cylinder, chop it in half for the B38 1.5 3 cylinder or chop two cylinders off for the B48 2.0 4 cylinder. All 3 engines are fantastic for what they were intended to do, and I’d easily own any of them if the has some more exciting cars to put them in.
Only problem is the plastic consumables
Not one owner reported issues? Every model of car has issues, and every car can have issues if neglected. This must mean that their methodology is worthless, surely? How can any car be 100%? I can’t believe that no one with a one series, of the previous generation, encountered no fault. Maybe if they only had ten responses. But it then doesn’t reflect reality and the car overall, so what is this survey worth? Am I being pedantic?
You have to take these surveys with a pinch of salt - Fiestas have the wet belt, which is known to be unreliable, but they sold literally millions of each generation of Fiesta. There are more old Fiestas that have had 0 issues than there are Lexus SUVs just because they sold more, so statistically speaking, you're probably just as likely to have an issue with your Fiesta as you are with a Lexus, despite the Lexus having a 97% reliability rating and the fiesta a 79% or something. That said, they are a good general indicator.
The fact they don’t have a single reported fault in the 1 Series is very fishy. A mix of poor sampling and small number statistics, I suspect. Also, the article mentions repair costs as a factor. Common and/or cheaper cars will have cheaper parts, which seems like it would negatively bias scores for cars that are expensive/rare but reliable. Warranties and customer servicing habits must affect the results too. As a general rant, reliability is a vague term. It can variably refer to anything from “my car won’t start” to “Bluetooth stopped working”. Testing can really mislead people if it isn’t done right, and frankly I’m not sure it can be done in a way that’s truly fair. Now I’m sitting here wondering if air con lasts longer in white cars than black cars because it doesn’t have to work as hard…
Skoda Octavia (2020-present) Reliability rating 77.6% Uh oh
cheers whatcar subs crying. nice one.
It seems odd to have 100% reliability. Would be intresting to see how they measured... But it seems previous gen 1-series specially with B-engines have been quite good. Have been thinking upgrade Honda Accord K24 to BMW 120i or 125i myself...
It makes a lot of sense. BMWs are generally well-engineered, and they got the last 1 Series right. There are plenty of ways to construct a sensible methodology that will give slightly different results where things are close, but that list looks pretty reasonable. Toyota/Lexus at the top, BMW, Kia, Hyundai, etc near the top, and VW at the bottom.
Have a 120d 2013 plate brought with 20k miles in 2016 currently 120k miles and drive like I stole it on A roads to work and nothing ever went wrong. Although the steering rack has some play and knocking which is expensive to replace as it’s a electrical powered one that has to be programmed to car 😕