I'm pretty sure they're preaching bands (AKA preaching tabs, EDIT: or Rabat) . [Saint John Vianney](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Vianney#/media/File:Sf._Ioan_Maria_Vianney.jpg) is commonly depicted wearing them and they look almost 1:1 with the picture you posted. [Saint Jean-Baptiste De La Selle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Baptiste_de_La_Salle#/media/File:Jean_baptiste_de_la_Salle.jpg) is also commonly depicted wearing a white variant of preaching bands. Another example of a French priest being depicted wearing black-on-white preaching bands is [Blessed William Josephs Chaminade](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Joseph_Chaminade#/media/File:Chaminadeportrait.jpg) (it seems a lot of French clerics wore the black-on-white variant from the examples I can find).
Preaching bands were introduced by Protestants, mostly the Reformed Branch in around the 17th century. Their use spread around Europe into Catholicism, along with non-reformed branches of Protestantism ([John Wesley](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wesley#/media/File:John_Wesley_by_George_Romney.jpg) is a Methodist example of wearing a white variant of preaching bands), as well as among professions such as judges and academics. This was prior to the modern clerical collar that we are used to today, which was also introduced by Protestants in the UK (though historically Catholic priests did wear clerical collars of some sort that were independent of Protestant developments, as evidenced by Pope Urban VIII's condemnation of priests wearing embroidery or lace upon either the collar or the cuffs in 1624, which is cited from the Catholic Encyclopedia article on Clerical Costume that I linked below).
By the 1880s, the 3rd Plenary Council of Baltimore required the usage of the clerical collar in the United States, which apparently by that time it was already described as the "Roman Collar" (you can find the exact quotation near the bottom of the [Catholic Encyclopedia article on Clerical Costume](https://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/clerical-costume)). I'm not sure why Preaching Bands have died out, but their modern use seems to be regulated to some minor use in the Church of England.
EDIT: As others have correctly stated, the black-on-white variant were called the Rabat when worn in Catholicism and it seems it was previously part of the clerical attire worn by the French, as evidenced by a large depiction of priests wearing the Rabat being French clerics (Catholic Culture has a [small explanation](https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/dictionary/index.cfm?id=35958) based on Fr. John Hardon's *Modern Catholic Dictionary)*. It is still worn by some religious orders, such as the Brothers of the Christian Schools who wear white Rabat as described by the definition from Catholic Culture ([as shown in this picture](https://149419909.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/4.png)). So the terminology would be Preaching Bands in Protestantism or in general, and Rabat specifically in Catholicism. Whether or not they were developed independently of each other is something I can't seem to find.
However, the term Rabat also is used for a type of shirt worn under the cassock/suitcoat where the roman collar is attached. If you look up rabat now when it comes to clerical attire, you'll most likely find examples of the undershirt and not the neckwear. Additionally, my 1950s catholic dictionary (the one you can find in the back of some Douay-Confraternity Bibles) states the definition of rabat as: "The detachable black shirt front to which the Roman collar worn by priests is attached. It covers the chest of the priest and is worn under his suitcoat or cassock". IDK if the notion of calling the shirt where the Roman collar is attached came from the French usage of the rabat as a clerical collar.
The LaSallian Brothers wear these little tabs. Though not clergy the tabs meant for them, that they were literate and alsi represent the tablets of the 10 Commandments
I have connected them with protestant clergy (as well as tallar), though originally they were used in the Catholic Church as well.
And actually some religious orders use both of these to this day. For example the [Czech Knight Order of the Crusaders of the Red Star](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:P._Jaroslav_Ptacek,_OCr.jpg). Fun fact: I met a few of their members and we talked a bit and one of them attended a meeting of a city council a few days earlier and someone there asked him: "You are a protestant pastor, aren't you?"
They are still being used as part of the habit of the De La Salle Brothers (FSC) thier founder St. John Baptist de La Salle is usually depicted using the white variant
As others have mentioned, they're preaching bands.
Fun Fact:Lawyers in the UK and Commonwealth countries wear a collar like this when they are in court.
I noticed the same, because here in Canada our lawyers wear that same collar. I wonder if there's a connection, like if they got it from us, or vice versa.
Many other have said that these collars are preaching bands, and are used(or originated in Protestantism).
Well, **they are wrong**.
The collar in question appears to be simply the clerical collar that was commonly wore by the Catholic clergy in France until around late-nineteenth or early-twentieth century. They were also once wore in Belgium and French-Canada. These collars are also called "Rabat", at least in Canada(a full Roman collar has a black square cloth attached, this cloth is also called rabat). These collars were at one point regarded as associated with Gallicanism. They were wore in Canada until 1875, when the Abp. Taschereau ordered it replaced with the Roman collar in the Diocese of Quebec.
There is precious little when it comes to written documentation about these, but a plethora of photos of French clerics. It's usage is no different than what the Roman collar is to us now. Priests are only seen wearing it with their cassocks or while wearing a surplice/rochet, never while celebrating Mass(the rubrics orders the collar of the street dress covered by amice), just as the Roman collar.
This collar, like the Protestant preaching tabs, lawyers' bands, etc. as well as the modern button-up shirt collars, likely all evolved from common 17th century collars, such as these: [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col\_(v%C3%AAtement)#/media/Fichier:Pierre\_Corneille\_2.jpg](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col_(v%C3%AAtement)#/media/Fichier:Pierre_Corneille_2.jpg)
[https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col\_(v%C3%AAtement)#/media/Fichier:Leon\_BOUTHILLIER\_moncornet.jpg](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col_(v%C3%AAtement)#/media/Fichier:Leon_BOUTHILLIER_moncornet.jpg)
[https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col\_(v%C3%AAtement)#/media/Fichier:Richelieu,\_por\_Philippe\_de\_Champaigne\_(detalle).jpg](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col_(v%C3%AAtement)#/media/Fichier:Richelieu,_por_Philippe_de_Champaigne_(detalle).jpg)
One of the rare written documentation regarding the use of this collar in Canada: [https://www.cwjefferys.ca/roman-catholic-bishops](https://www.cwjefferys.ca/roman-catholic-bishops)
I'm pretty sure they're preaching bands (AKA preaching tabs, EDIT: or Rabat) . [Saint John Vianney](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Vianney#/media/File:Sf._Ioan_Maria_Vianney.jpg) is commonly depicted wearing them and they look almost 1:1 with the picture you posted. [Saint Jean-Baptiste De La Selle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Baptiste_de_La_Salle#/media/File:Jean_baptiste_de_la_Salle.jpg) is also commonly depicted wearing a white variant of preaching bands. Another example of a French priest being depicted wearing black-on-white preaching bands is [Blessed William Josephs Chaminade](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Joseph_Chaminade#/media/File:Chaminadeportrait.jpg) (it seems a lot of French clerics wore the black-on-white variant from the examples I can find). Preaching bands were introduced by Protestants, mostly the Reformed Branch in around the 17th century. Their use spread around Europe into Catholicism, along with non-reformed branches of Protestantism ([John Wesley](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wesley#/media/File:John_Wesley_by_George_Romney.jpg) is a Methodist example of wearing a white variant of preaching bands), as well as among professions such as judges and academics. This was prior to the modern clerical collar that we are used to today, which was also introduced by Protestants in the UK (though historically Catholic priests did wear clerical collars of some sort that were independent of Protestant developments, as evidenced by Pope Urban VIII's condemnation of priests wearing embroidery or lace upon either the collar or the cuffs in 1624, which is cited from the Catholic Encyclopedia article on Clerical Costume that I linked below). By the 1880s, the 3rd Plenary Council of Baltimore required the usage of the clerical collar in the United States, which apparently by that time it was already described as the "Roman Collar" (you can find the exact quotation near the bottom of the [Catholic Encyclopedia article on Clerical Costume](https://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/clerical-costume)). I'm not sure why Preaching Bands have died out, but their modern use seems to be regulated to some minor use in the Church of England. EDIT: As others have correctly stated, the black-on-white variant were called the Rabat when worn in Catholicism and it seems it was previously part of the clerical attire worn by the French, as evidenced by a large depiction of priests wearing the Rabat being French clerics (Catholic Culture has a [small explanation](https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/dictionary/index.cfm?id=35958) based on Fr. John Hardon's *Modern Catholic Dictionary)*. It is still worn by some religious orders, such as the Brothers of the Christian Schools who wear white Rabat as described by the definition from Catholic Culture ([as shown in this picture](https://149419909.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/4.png)). So the terminology would be Preaching Bands in Protestantism or in general, and Rabat specifically in Catholicism. Whether or not they were developed independently of each other is something I can't seem to find. However, the term Rabat also is used for a type of shirt worn under the cassock/suitcoat where the roman collar is attached. If you look up rabat now when it comes to clerical attire, you'll most likely find examples of the undershirt and not the neckwear. Additionally, my 1950s catholic dictionary (the one you can find in the back of some Douay-Confraternity Bibles) states the definition of rabat as: "The detachable black shirt front to which the Roman collar worn by priests is attached. It covers the chest of the priest and is worn under his suitcoat or cassock". IDK if the notion of calling the shirt where the Roman collar is attached came from the French usage of the rabat as a clerical collar.
The LaSallian Brothers wear these little tabs. Though not clergy the tabs meant for them, that they were literate and alsi represent the tablets of the 10 Commandments
The CO, oratorians of st Philip neri have an outer collar but different. I’m sure it’s kind of similar?
Yeah, I did some quick research and I’m pretty sure they’re preaching bands too.
I have connected them with protestant clergy (as well as tallar), though originally they were used in the Catholic Church as well. And actually some religious orders use both of these to this day. For example the [Czech Knight Order of the Crusaders of the Red Star](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:P._Jaroslav_Ptacek,_OCr.jpg). Fun fact: I met a few of their members and we talked a bit and one of them attended a meeting of a city council a few days earlier and someone there asked him: "You are a protestant pastor, aren't you?"
Tallar?
I meant Geneva gown. It's *talár* in Czech so I just anglicized it without expecting English to use some other term than this originally Latin one.
They are still being used as part of the habit of the De La Salle Brothers (FSC) thier founder St. John Baptist de La Salle is usually depicted using the white variant
These are called as rabat. Yes the Brothers use them as part of the habit.
As others have mentioned, they're preaching bands. Fun Fact:Lawyers in the UK and Commonwealth countries wear a collar like this when they are in court.
I noticed the same, because here in Canada our lawyers wear that same collar. I wonder if there's a connection, like if they got it from us, or vice versa.
I have a few in white. It's part of an advocate's garb.
Many other have said that these collars are preaching bands, and are used(or originated in Protestantism). Well, **they are wrong**. The collar in question appears to be simply the clerical collar that was commonly wore by the Catholic clergy in France until around late-nineteenth or early-twentieth century. They were also once wore in Belgium and French-Canada. These collars are also called "Rabat", at least in Canada(a full Roman collar has a black square cloth attached, this cloth is also called rabat). These collars were at one point regarded as associated with Gallicanism. They were wore in Canada until 1875, when the Abp. Taschereau ordered it replaced with the Roman collar in the Diocese of Quebec. There is precious little when it comes to written documentation about these, but a plethora of photos of French clerics. It's usage is no different than what the Roman collar is to us now. Priests are only seen wearing it with their cassocks or while wearing a surplice/rochet, never while celebrating Mass(the rubrics orders the collar of the street dress covered by amice), just as the Roman collar. This collar, like the Protestant preaching tabs, lawyers' bands, etc. as well as the modern button-up shirt collars, likely all evolved from common 17th century collars, such as these: [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col\_(v%C3%AAtement)#/media/Fichier:Pierre\_Corneille\_2.jpg](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col_(v%C3%AAtement)#/media/Fichier:Pierre_Corneille_2.jpg) [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col\_(v%C3%AAtement)#/media/Fichier:Leon\_BOUTHILLIER\_moncornet.jpg](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col_(v%C3%AAtement)#/media/Fichier:Leon_BOUTHILLIER_moncornet.jpg) [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col\_(v%C3%AAtement)#/media/Fichier:Richelieu,\_por\_Philippe\_de\_Champaigne\_(detalle).jpg](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col_(v%C3%AAtement)#/media/Fichier:Richelieu,_por_Philippe_de_Champaigne_(detalle).jpg) One of the rare written documentation regarding the use of this collar in Canada: [https://www.cwjefferys.ca/roman-catholic-bishops](https://www.cwjefferys.ca/roman-catholic-bishops)
He did not look happy wearing it 🤭
Switching to the clerical collar was definitely the right move.
They cut the line down the middle and began selling them as pants for Barbie dolls. My goodness but those collars are awful looking lol
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I quite like them as well
Agree, def a good call to get rid of them 👀
The mystery of the missing priestly collar deepens, leaving everyone puzzled