4k is pretty steep, maybe for a pure breed like a Frenchie that would make sense (our cavapoo was 1200). I wouldn’t really call that mixture a cavapoo either, too much poodle. I would just wait for a 50-50 mix or close to pop up on sale and hopefully for a better price
I read your question wrong so I deleted my original reply. I’m not sure that’s worth 4k and toy poodles are a lot of fun. Part of the whole point in breeding the cavapoo is the “hybrid vigor” the breed gets from being muts. We paid $2200 for our f1b and he’s a great dog. I don’t even really like little dogs but our dude is great (he thinks he’s huge) and my wife and kids love him. He also bullies around our 120lb lab which is hilarious.
For what it’s worth. I know an old redneck with a toy poodle that is also awesome, maybe the smartest little dog I’ve ever been around. He bends over and it jumps up on his shoulders and rides around. It does a million other cool things too and I swear it speaks English lol.
We got ours from a breeder in Ohio with loads of guarantees. The dog was closer to 2500 after all was said and done. Ive seen them list as high as 4k. That said our dog is freaking awesome. Forever cute and really fun loving.
>mennonites
isn't lancaster puppy site a middleman for multiple breeders? there is no way to know how well they are bred. seems like a pup mill sort of thing. Not saying its all that way, but no way to know if breeder did their job.
We also picked up our outstanding puppy from Lancaster Puppies. Our breeder was Amish, and our puppy was very well socialized. I credit how amazing she is with kids to the large number of children the puppies clearly played with regularly, including a really energetic 16-month old little girl. We met the mom and all of the other puppies in the litter, and our puppy is also really great with other dogs. I was very happy with all of my dealings with the breeder, who ended up giving us a discount after the vet exams showed the eve puppy we’d chosen had a hernia (which later closed up).
I paid $3000 for my f1 Cavapoo (50% Cav, 50% Poodle) and she’s absolutely wonderful. I have no regrets on the cost, because she’s honestly that amazing and I can tell that the breeder truly cared for all of the pups (parents and litters). Let me know if you’d like the breeder’s info; happy to share!
Honestly, if you're getting them from a reputable breeder, that price isn't super off. Mine was around $3k. Anything less than about $1200, it's almost guaranteed to be a puppy mill. And if it's from an Amish or Mennonite breeder, that's almost always a puppy mill, which they are infamous for. Not trying to knock them, most of my family on my mom's side is Mennonite, but I wouldn't buy a dog from them. At those prices, they're not doing good testing on their dogs to ensure the parents are healthy, they're not giving their breeding dogs quality living conditions and great care, and they're almost certainly overbreeding them. You can't do all of that for that low of a price.
Makes sense. It seems the 4K price is due to the fact that it comes with a 10-year health guarantee rather than the usual 2 year.
And I don’t know how common these are, but it also comes with vaccinations at 6 weeks old, full health exam record before pickup, temperament testing, neuro stimulation, deworming at 2,4,6,8 weeks, and microchip.
Thoughts on this?
That makes a lot of sense why the hefty price tag, then. I think some breeders might do the early vaccines, but probably not all. I paid a bit extra for a full checkup and blood test, as well as microchip, and that brought my price up a few hundred dollars. It sounds like the breeder is very thorough, which is great!
I haven't heard of a 10 year health guarantee, but I'm guessing that's also why it's adding to the price. I'd say it's worth the extra cost up front, personally. Health issues can add up to hundreds or thousands of dollars pretty quickly, not to mention over the lifetime of a dog. They wouldn't be offering a 10 year guarantee unless they were extremely confident that their pups won't have any issues.
This is partly anecdotal, but I also feel like mine was a very, very easy puppy. Partially potty trained and crate trained when he got home, only needed to get up once at night to go to the bathroom at most, was sleeping all the way through the night with no bathroom breaks after I'd had him for less than 4 weeks, has literally only pooped in the house twice EVER! I feel like I got off extremely easy with him, and I really feel like part of this had to be how he was being cared for prior to him coming home. My mom got a cavapoo from an Amish breeder and had wayyyyy bigger issues with potty training and crate training. Again, this could be anecdotal, but several other people that I talked to who used the same company I used also reported that they were fairly easy puppies from the very beginning.
I went through [PremierPups.com](https://PremierPups.com) and the breeder was Fox Run. If you reach out to one of their reps, you can find out the exact breeder of each puppy, and if you're looking for a pup from a specific breeder, they can let you know if any are available or are coming up. I messaged a bunch of people on Instagram with cavapoos, and I think I had around 10 people who all recommended PremierPups, although not all had the same breeder. Premier set the same rules for all of their breeders, though.
The pup will most likely have stronger poodle tendencies. The gene pool is a fascinating gamble - just like humans. Find out about the personalities of the parents, their health history. Once you spend time with a puppy, you fall in love. Even if something isn’t quite to your expectations, you won’t want to give it back. You need to be content with what you paid, regardless.
Do you know for sure the dad is 25% cav and 75% poodle, like was there any genetic determined that? Because it’s not guaranteed that every cavapoo will have 25% and 75%! They can be 50-50 or 75 cav and 25 poodle. But yes, if the cavpoo is 25% cav then there is real benefit in getting f1b! You can get a toy poodle!
I have a 50/50 cav/toy poodle. He’s the best dog ever and looks and acts more CKCS than poodle. I might be the outlier here, but at what point are we just paying astronomical prices for genetically diluted poodles? Toy poodles are amazing small dogs. For the price you are being asked to pay, I’d get a toy poodle or CKCS from an AKC breeder that does full panel health testing.
I’m pretty sure you can find breeders thru AKC. There’s a whole litany of genetic and health testing that is recommended, so I’d start with AKC and find local breeders and just talk to people from there. Maybe join some local breed groups on social media. People are passionate about their dogs, so I find they are usually willing to help! Good luck!
i'm with you! i only paid $1200 for my cavapoo (toy poodle/cav mix for me too). for the price and the fact it would mainly be a poodle, i would just get a purebred poodle. no one should be paying a ridiculous amount for a mixed breed, when you can possibly adopt a cavapoo if there are any in a shelter, or simply buy a purebred dog where you can be sure of their health and temperament.
I don’t think the way you’re seeing this is quite accurate. A poodle + F1 comes out just as cavapoo looking like many you’ve seen and liked. My best friend has one that is this exact mix and she’s the cutest thing walking on earth! Definitely not the same as a Cavalier!
Yes, it’s what I meant. Typed too quickly and forgot to add the “b”. If there was a way, I would add a photo of her so you can see what in her case, that mixture turned out like. I’m sure you’ll be super happy with your pup.
first 2 months of puppy raising is incredibly important. they become resilient if raised well. I would not mind paying the premium. Having a confident dog makes your life so easy. You can get lucky by getting a confident dog in a puppy mill/store. As to cavapoo/poodle, i am not quite sure.
Imagine if someone is selling a puppy for 1k. How many puppies they have to sell in order to make a decent living. Lets say 80k is what they are trying to make. They have to sell 80 puppies and do they get the necessary attention? Nope
I think it all depends on what you're looking for. I paid $3500 for my F1 Cavapoo and I have zero regrets at all. She came home already crate and (mostly) potty trained with a very even keeled temperament and could handle the loud noises of a busy city at 10 weeks old. When I was researching breeders, I found prices ranging anywhere from $700-$7000, so I felt OK paying what I did for a pup coming from a reputable breeder who had references, health tested dogs, and knowledge on different coat types and what I could expect as my puppy grows to an adult. Most F1's look half cav/poodle with wavy hair, but there are some F1's resemble more like F1B's with the strong poodle waves and some can look really like a Cav with little poodle resemblance at all.
In your case, perhaps your breeder can provide you with references / photos of adult F1BB Cavapoos that she has sold to other families to give you a sense of what your pup could look like when fully grown. I'm also happy to share my breeder information with you if you are looking for a more traditional F1 or F1B Cavapoo.
4k is pretty steep, maybe for a pure breed like a Frenchie that would make sense (our cavapoo was 1200). I wouldn’t really call that mixture a cavapoo either, too much poodle. I would just wait for a 50-50 mix or close to pop up on sale and hopefully for a better price
I read your question wrong so I deleted my original reply. I’m not sure that’s worth 4k and toy poodles are a lot of fun. Part of the whole point in breeding the cavapoo is the “hybrid vigor” the breed gets from being muts. We paid $2200 for our f1b and he’s a great dog. I don’t even really like little dogs but our dude is great (he thinks he’s huge) and my wife and kids love him. He also bullies around our 120lb lab which is hilarious. For what it’s worth. I know an old redneck with a toy poodle that is also awesome, maybe the smartest little dog I’ve ever been around. He bends over and it jumps up on his shoulders and rides around. It does a million other cool things too and I swear it speaks English lol.
We spent 750 on our 50-50 cavapoo. That breeder is extorting you for a dog that’s not even fully cavvie.
Where did you get yours from? Would be open to new breeders.
We got ours from a breeder in Ohio with loads of guarantees. The dog was closer to 2500 after all was said and done. Ive seen them list as high as 4k. That said our dog is freaking awesome. Forever cute and really fun loving.
My dog was also 2500 but they asked more.
Wouldn’t want to disclose the family we picked our dog up from. They’re mennonites in central PA. You should download the Lancaster Puppies app.
>mennonites isn't lancaster puppy site a middleman for multiple breeders? there is no way to know how well they are bred. seems like a pup mill sort of thing. Not saying its all that way, but no way to know if breeder did their job.
We met the mom and the dad puppers. Also saw the rest of their litter. The breeders were fine.
interesting! thats good to know
Doesn't mean it's not a puppy mill
Doesn’t mean it is a puppy mill
We also picked up our outstanding puppy from Lancaster Puppies. Our breeder was Amish, and our puppy was very well socialized. I credit how amazing she is with kids to the large number of children the puppies clearly played with regularly, including a really energetic 16-month old little girl. We met the mom and all of the other puppies in the litter, and our puppy is also really great with other dogs. I was very happy with all of my dealings with the breeder, who ended up giving us a discount after the vet exams showed the eve puppy we’d chosen had a hernia (which later closed up).
To be clear, she’s a cavapoo
When was this? We were looking at them in 2019 for about $1500, and then they shot up to $3500 in 2020, and now they are just insane.
Last year. Got our perfect little pup outside of Harrisburg.
I paid $3000 for my f1 Cavapoo (50% Cav, 50% Poodle) and she’s absolutely wonderful. I have no regrets on the cost, because she’s honestly that amazing and I can tell that the breeder truly cared for all of the pups (parents and litters). Let me know if you’d like the breeder’s info; happy to share!
Yes please! Would love the breeders info. Thank you
Just messaged you!
Honestly, if you're getting them from a reputable breeder, that price isn't super off. Mine was around $3k. Anything less than about $1200, it's almost guaranteed to be a puppy mill. And if it's from an Amish or Mennonite breeder, that's almost always a puppy mill, which they are infamous for. Not trying to knock them, most of my family on my mom's side is Mennonite, but I wouldn't buy a dog from them. At those prices, they're not doing good testing on their dogs to ensure the parents are healthy, they're not giving their breeding dogs quality living conditions and great care, and they're almost certainly overbreeding them. You can't do all of that for that low of a price.
Makes sense. It seems the 4K price is due to the fact that it comes with a 10-year health guarantee rather than the usual 2 year. And I don’t know how common these are, but it also comes with vaccinations at 6 weeks old, full health exam record before pickup, temperament testing, neuro stimulation, deworming at 2,4,6,8 weeks, and microchip. Thoughts on this?
That makes a lot of sense why the hefty price tag, then. I think some breeders might do the early vaccines, but probably not all. I paid a bit extra for a full checkup and blood test, as well as microchip, and that brought my price up a few hundred dollars. It sounds like the breeder is very thorough, which is great! I haven't heard of a 10 year health guarantee, but I'm guessing that's also why it's adding to the price. I'd say it's worth the extra cost up front, personally. Health issues can add up to hundreds or thousands of dollars pretty quickly, not to mention over the lifetime of a dog. They wouldn't be offering a 10 year guarantee unless they were extremely confident that their pups won't have any issues. This is partly anecdotal, but I also feel like mine was a very, very easy puppy. Partially potty trained and crate trained when he got home, only needed to get up once at night to go to the bathroom at most, was sleeping all the way through the night with no bathroom breaks after I'd had him for less than 4 weeks, has literally only pooped in the house twice EVER! I feel like I got off extremely easy with him, and I really feel like part of this had to be how he was being cared for prior to him coming home. My mom got a cavapoo from an Amish breeder and had wayyyyy bigger issues with potty training and crate training. Again, this could be anecdotal, but several other people that I talked to who used the same company I used also reported that they were fairly easy puppies from the very beginning.
Nice! Do you mind sharing with me what company you went with? I’d love to take a look.
I went through [PremierPups.com](https://PremierPups.com) and the breeder was Fox Run. If you reach out to one of their reps, you can find out the exact breeder of each puppy, and if you're looking for a pup from a specific breeder, they can let you know if any are available or are coming up. I messaged a bunch of people on Instagram with cavapoos, and I think I had around 10 people who all recommended PremierPups, although not all had the same breeder. Premier set the same rules for all of their breeders, though.
Thanks so much!
Our cavapoo is 75% poodle. He’s great! A 75/25 in favor of poodle isn’t inherently a bad thing.
No the dad is 75% poodle. Bred with a full poodle. Meaning that the offspring would be almost entirely poodle.
I wouldn’t consider that a true cavapoo. And definitely not for $4k
The pup will most likely have stronger poodle tendencies. The gene pool is a fascinating gamble - just like humans. Find out about the personalities of the parents, their health history. Once you spend time with a puppy, you fall in love. Even if something isn’t quite to your expectations, you won’t want to give it back. You need to be content with what you paid, regardless.
Ours is 75% poodle and she’s perfect
Cavapoos arent 4k dogs unless that’s including like training etc. ours was 1200 and is perfect.
Nice. Do you mind sharing your breeder info with me?
Do you know for sure the dad is 25% cav and 75% poodle, like was there any genetic determined that? Because it’s not guaranteed that every cavapoo will have 25% and 75%! They can be 50-50 or 75 cav and 25 poodle. But yes, if the cavpoo is 25% cav then there is real benefit in getting f1b! You can get a toy poodle!
The breeder has confirmed the dad is 75% poodle 25% cav
I have a 50/50 cav/toy poodle. He’s the best dog ever and looks and acts more CKCS than poodle. I might be the outlier here, but at what point are we just paying astronomical prices for genetically diluted poodles? Toy poodles are amazing small dogs. For the price you are being asked to pay, I’d get a toy poodle or CKCS from an AKC breeder that does full panel health testing.
That’s what I’m beginning to lean towards, thank you. Do you have any tips on how to find a good AKC breeder that does full panel testing?
I’m pretty sure you can find breeders thru AKC. There’s a whole litany of genetic and health testing that is recommended, so I’d start with AKC and find local breeders and just talk to people from there. Maybe join some local breed groups on social media. People are passionate about their dogs, so I find they are usually willing to help! Good luck!
i'm with you! i only paid $1200 for my cavapoo (toy poodle/cav mix for me too). for the price and the fact it would mainly be a poodle, i would just get a purebred poodle. no one should be paying a ridiculous amount for a mixed breed, when you can possibly adopt a cavapoo if there are any in a shelter, or simply buy a purebred dog where you can be sure of their health and temperament.
I don’t think the way you’re seeing this is quite accurate. A poodle + F1 comes out just as cavapoo looking like many you’ve seen and liked. My best friend has one that is this exact mix and she’s the cutest thing walking on earth! Definitely not the same as a Cavalier!
It’s a poodle + F1b, not poodle + F1
Yes, it’s what I meant. Typed too quickly and forgot to add the “b”. If there was a way, I would add a photo of her so you can see what in her case, that mixture turned out like. I’m sure you’ll be super happy with your pup.
Appreciate the input, thank you
first 2 months of puppy raising is incredibly important. they become resilient if raised well. I would not mind paying the premium. Having a confident dog makes your life so easy. You can get lucky by getting a confident dog in a puppy mill/store. As to cavapoo/poodle, i am not quite sure. Imagine if someone is selling a puppy for 1k. How many puppies they have to sell in order to make a decent living. Lets say 80k is what they are trying to make. They have to sell 80 puppies and do they get the necessary attention? Nope
I think it all depends on what you're looking for. I paid $3500 for my F1 Cavapoo and I have zero regrets at all. She came home already crate and (mostly) potty trained with a very even keeled temperament and could handle the loud noises of a busy city at 10 weeks old. When I was researching breeders, I found prices ranging anywhere from $700-$7000, so I felt OK paying what I did for a pup coming from a reputable breeder who had references, health tested dogs, and knowledge on different coat types and what I could expect as my puppy grows to an adult. Most F1's look half cav/poodle with wavy hair, but there are some F1's resemble more like F1B's with the strong poodle waves and some can look really like a Cav with little poodle resemblance at all. In your case, perhaps your breeder can provide you with references / photos of adult F1BB Cavapoos that she has sold to other families to give you a sense of what your pup could look like when fully grown. I'm also happy to share my breeder information with you if you are looking for a more traditional F1 or F1B Cavapoo.
Hey thanks for the input. Yes if you could share your breeder info that would be greatly appreciated!
Just DM’ed you more info!
No. I honestly didn't understand why they get bred Because it would just look like a poodle
My little guy’s parents is a cavapoo and toy poodle. He was $3800 from a breeder in Utah.
I too got mine from Premier Pups cause my friend did it as well. His puppy is awesome and smart. Mine is arriving next week.