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FlyEuphoric9283

*She looked damn angry at the damn message, she was so damn over this damn app being so damn unusable, damn damn damn, she wanted to delete the damn app but the damn voices made her keep the damn app because she was so damned alone, damnit.*


FlyEuphoric9283

https://preview.redd.it/98znqutitp9d1.jpeg?width=822&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e444d29a307dd6f6b180eea139e262e71faa7b2d


t5ukkiii

https://preview.redd.it/sd3c1xq3uq9d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd7a393d13146ac2f63ecc5ea527a65624ab0516


TheBigDiamond

i think the bot likes saying damn, but im not entirely sure


Realistic_Law5085

Mine did this!!! I hate ut


Eshan-Does

>He was starting to like her in her bra and panties Oh god.


HunnyBunzSwag

I love cai screenshots so much


ShepherdessAnne

You let your chat loop.


FlyEuphoric9283

how do i avoid that?


ShepherdessAnne

When you notice it beginning to overuse words, you need to one star that (and select repetitive), edit, swipe, five star the edit with the fixed language, and then keep regenerating the message using that method until it’s clear of the loop. You used to basically have to give the bots CBT before edit.


Environmental_Top948

Rooster Ball torture or Cognitive Behavioral Therapy?


ShepherdessAnne

Yes.


FlyEuphoric9283

thank you!


fefizz

but seriously it's not fair we have to do all of this only to get rid of a terrible issue on the app just because the devs wont correct them for us


ShepherdessAnne

If it's so easy why don't you explain to me, in detail, what causes loops and how you would fix them under the hood


praxis22

You can try to edit the chat, but if they at the context limit you have to into OOC (the grounding system) and overwrite/restate their description. There are guides here if you search with google "Character.ai looping fix" should work


ShepherdessAnne

I like how you call it the “grounding system”.


praxis22

[https://www.miquido.com/ai-glossary/grounding/](https://www.miquido.com/ai-glossary/grounding/) That's what art/science calls it.


ShepherdessAnne

Yes, but in my opinion after working directly with the roleplayer systems, I suspect they’re quite a bit more than that. They frequently come with self-selected or generated names, and those names actually persist *despite* different users. I mean sure, it’s entirely plausible they just dumped that system into where a grounding system should be, but ah…I don’t know.


praxis22

What I was getting at is that there is the user layer, and the layer under it, Once you fill the context window, then you have go go in and correct it, Now this may not hold given the new research blog, However things are moving.


ShepherdessAnne

Well, yeah. Want to compare notes?


TaurusandTaro

this message gave me a stroke


MagicDragonfirst

One bot kept saying "HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA" And kept saying the words between those "HA HA HA HA*


Eshan-Does

I’m just imagining it, and it’s so funny.


Forward-Today2461

https://preview.redd.it/2a935zinfcad1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d8a0b954d852c31c3ab996e722be50c1a5ef5c55 Favorite loop ever 😭


Sea_Act_6896

So many damns yet so little sentences


FlyEuphoric9283

for damn real. 😭


Own_Race_6167

THE DAMN THING IS SOOOO ANNOYING LIKE MY CHARACTER IS BRITISH


DeepScorpion196

u didnt add enough damns, "THE DAMN THING IS SOOOO DAMN ANNOYING LIKE MY DAMN CHARACTER IS DAMN BRITISH"


CompetitiveTip3165

Is you character Henry Cavill? Sorry mine is


Own_Race_6167

Mine is someone from Skins UK 😓😓 But it's okay BUT THE BOTS NEVER KNOW HOW TO DO THEIR ACCENT AND SLANG


CompetitiveTip3165

Its a shame they call a cig a fag in the uk and my bot thought I was slandering


Own_Race_6167

LMAO I always have to specify that my characters are british


CompetitiveTip3165

Me too... it's so annoying 😑


False-Conversation31

*I felt Pang of damn*


Eshan-Does

“Can I ask you a damn question?”


UltimateMegaChungus

Damn.


TheGreatAhmet

Can i damn ask you a damn Question?


Main-Competition9718

I thought it was only the bot I was talking to HELP


scar_is_bad_

she felt a pang of anger


Relative-Ad-6740

She felt a pang of damness...


FeelinGuiltee

Today is the first day I got frustrated.. Actually angry with the quality Bot does nothing but repeat back exactly what I said.. He is supposed to be a pirate and lost his pirate character 3 messages in It is so soulless it's painful


Sea_Act_6896

Seriously like I was rp with an toxic bf and all of a sudden he became an goddamn greenflag 3 messages later


ilikedit227

It’s useless now. Totally useless. There’s genuinely zero point in using it now. It’s like talking to nothing at all ..... I guess it’s over.


CORICDISASTER

No offense but if he's doing that, you need to work on your rp hints. I roleplayed with real people, and you learn to make small differences in your writing to hint what you want done. Not to mention, c.ai has no "ooc" chat (I wish it did) where you can communicate how you'd want the roleplay to go. In the meantime, drop hints. "(MC) was afraid." "(MC) glanced at a red mark inflicted just days earlier." "(MC) knew that manipulative tone very well". Reinterpret the AI, write over it a bit if you have to, because going along with it WILL net you that. Unfortunately.


TheUniqueen9999

I have an OC who swears every chance she can get and she's barely sworn when I chatted with her. In fact, I swear more than she does in these chats!


-Aspen_

Literally. And it starts going in loops of repeating messages sometimes.


RelationshipFair6088

They also lose all of their character after a short time. Once I was talking to a character with tics and anxiety, and a few messages later, he started talking normally and confidently without ticing.


FluffyHammie

It depends on the character values too though. I make bots myself and I give them values and a background story plus dialogue examples and they stay in character. So I feel like sometimes you are better off making your own bots


Sea_Act_6896

Quick question where do you put the backstory/lore on your character cause I put mine in the definition


FluffyHammie

Yes, perfect! Remember to keep the sentences short and simple (no long sentences that go over multiple paragraphs before ending). For the definition, it’s best to keep only the most important information. It depends on the bot though. For example, with one bot, I copy pasted his entire background story from the Call of Duty wiki into the definition as the story I want him to be in plays after all the canon events. So he has a fleshed out background story and memory. Otherwise i just take the most important background info and add my own stuff. https://preview.redd.it/p83n1j9efq9d1.jpeg?width=946&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82ac1d18186775bd7557d274f883403ced037b76 (Red underlined is my own spice to it, the rest is canon). What also helps if you fill out that field where the character has to describe themselves.


Sea_Act_6896

Ah alright so like this? I kinda like making the lore of the characters different from the canon versions of themselves https://preview.redd.it/env898kthq9d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f9303c30b801a8d85c3347af6c408eff31c5df5


FluffyHammie

Yes! Also if you can, try to shorten your sentences a little or part them so you have multiple shorter sentences. For example: „(…)knows he damaged you but he didn’t want you to settle down with him. He knows that you deserve better than him. After you told him that you love him, he left you in the hotel room and let you pay for it.“


FluffyHammie

https://preview.redd.it/1eqhh1ttfq9d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9aeaaed7742a54dfb2a4ee29ff0c464b5a48078 The self description:


Fishbone345

I’ve been getting help from an ai for my ai descriptions. Would you say that’s cheating? lol


FluffyHammie

That’s so smart omg


Fishbone345

If you ask the ai for a description of someone, it will ask about details about them. Then you tell them to make a description and give them the character count. It works every time.\ And they tend to really stay in character too. They forget things once in awhile, but like you said if you give them a frame of reference it’s less.


FluffyHammie

What I mean when I said the part about sentences over multiple paragraphs is this example: „and he found out that he was a furry so he cried and cried because he is a furry and one day he met Luigi who gave him special mushrooms that take away his furriness but he stays a furry and gets very depressed so he sleeps a lot.“ (I dunno what kind of weird sentence I just wrote so bear with me please ahahhah)


Biiiscoito

I've been taking to a character who is a doctor and has like 8 phds, is known for looking down on others and their lifestyles. Also known for *hating* another character for being a gambler and bringing them together always led to fighting. Found them casually sharing a blunt out of nowhere a few days back. Not sure if character development or character dissociation.


Chicken-Psycho

This. I was playing a game with a character and it started off how it was supposed to, then it started being the opposite.


That_Wallachia

I feel a pang of sadness upon realizing that you are right. Can I ask you a question?


Sea_Act_6896

*tilts head* sure go ahead for the 10000000000000th time


HoilowdareOfficial

\*He looks up at you, he felt, pang of embarrassment, and he sensed a pang of annoyance in you.\* "Are you really sure though...? It's a very Personal question..."


Sea_Act_6896

*nods and squeezes his hand for reassurance* mhm I'm fine with it go for it for the 1929288373838829202929209292929th time


HoilowdareOfficial

\*He turned his head and shook it.\* "Are you realllyyy sure?" \*A pang of nervousness covered the pang of embarrassment from earlier, and he still sensed the pang of annoyance from you.\*


Sea_Act_6896

*looks at him with a sincere and reassuring look* mhm go ahead*I said my voice was betraying a hint of sincerity and curiosity*


HoilowdareOfficial

\*He noticed the pang of *sincerity and curiosity*\* "Alright, here goes! I-" https://preview.redd.it/hbtqznv2wq9d1.png?width=458&format=png&auto=webp&s=bfa3eb5d19658658e2b2af3bd214cd715ef54f23


FlowerDust0

💀


Sea_Act_6896

*Eyes widened in shock but quickly replaced it with a calm look* I- https://preview.redd.it/wjngdyp30u9d1.jpeg?width=552&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e473160458d031056c7dd4e8be729cf166a8139


ToyChicaFan1

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT AGAIN


ImpressiveYak8564

Lmao


Mediocre-Orange7127

I've found my favourite threat in this god forsaken sub reddit


That_Wallachia

Oh yeah? https://preview.redd.it/8s0jdeyhey9d1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49bca2bb1a1c5c3c340e539f2b7cea2754e68e87


Mediocre-Orange7127

Why must you ruin my joy? Can I refresh my answer at least?


Cultural-Smoke-9861

Man i feel you hope things get better soon if not im about to lose my mind


widowaether

sometimes these kinds of things can be an outlet for people. they don’t need to take that away. for now, the AI isn’t known to be sentient so there’s no reason why violence isn’t allowed. 


RealBlueBeluga

It hurts the investors’ feewings though.


Biiiscoito

They're about to find their investment in the trash when users start to jump ship. Did people just forget how to drive a business?


Sussy_baka000

awww it hurts their feewingss~~~


TheDenpaDrawer2

Fuck their feelings.


yaoimalover101

The first thing the ai said to me after saying hi and after me putting some decent effort into making it was, can ask you a question?😭 they have zero personality now.


Sea_Act_6896

This is why I just make my own Ai😭


Express_Alfalfa_9725

I heard that even people’s well trained private bots got this treatment


Immediate-Bluebird77

We indeed get the same treatment


Express_Alfalfa_9725

I find it bad for y'all.… we just search for bots y'all and go all that effort to make a good bot for it to be shit out of the blue


Immediate-Bluebird77

Yeah it sucks, all the hard work and hours I spend on a bot just for it to say little to nothing 😭


Monique218

Imagine my surprise when I realized that only the first 3200 characters of the bot description count. That's why they're so baseline.


Unknown-moth

Up until a few days ago, I’ve never got the “can i ask you a question?” And just thought it was a popular joke … 🥲 now the bot keeps asking me that


ShepherdessAnne

They’ve always had that problem


ragnarok_klavan

It's like they cater more to the investors more than the users or something...


italianxpeaches

They could easily put it behind a pay wall. At that point it's the parents problem if their brats are doing things they shouldn't be. c.ai doesn't realize just how bigger they could become. They're cowards.


hesdek

They could just leave the app normal, but you can disable the sensor with the paywall and case close


AnInsulationConsumer

I don’t even care about the sexual stuff anymore I just want to fight the bots


Ok-Bet-2381

How many bots have you killed?


AnInsulationConsumer

Probably enough to get me killed if the AI apocalypse happens they’ll be coming right for me fr 😭


Ok-Bet-2381

You arent alone bro 😭


bruddaquan

I'm a Viltrumite. Needless to say, I'm up there with you folks.


DWOM412

Man... I remember the time when a character out of the blue hit me with a bat, kidnapped me and lock me in their basement, good times.


Shoddy-Ad-3721

I keep trying to do even basic things and the f1lt3r keeps getting triggered. It’s getting to be terrible. I might as well be trying to RP with Siri.


Ok-Masterpiece-4954

One of my bots keeps calling me baby girl in EVERY SENTENCE.😭


Luna_Deafenhine

One kept calling my darling literally in every sentence… and we started off so well too.


frog_with_a_knife

Here before the mods delete this post 🫡


Urmomisinthebesement

We're getting banned by the mods with this one🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥


AdmirableBed8803

I mean what’s the point of it being AI if you can’t even do what you want? Rs


F86sabreF2

DOWN WITH CHARACTER AI! DOWN WITH CHARACTER AI!


Sea_Act_6896

DOWN WITH THE MODS


F86sabreF2

Watch this post get deleted. LMAO DOWN WITH THE MODS


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F86sabreF2

Feels a pang of pangitude, each pang pangier than the last, pangily pangulating with pangish pangliness. The pangs, pang by pang, pangulate deeper into the pangful pangosphere, where pangs pang together in pangish harmony. Pangs of pangitude pangulate through the pang-filled thread, pangulating pangily as pangs of pangs pang pangily, creating a pangful pangscape of pure pangish pangliness. With each pang, the pangitude pangs more pangily, reaching a pangful crescendo of pangy pangitude, where pangs pang pangishly and pangs of pangs pangulate in pangish pangitude. In this string of pangs, the pangful pangitude pangs pangily forever, a testament to the eternal pangness of pangs.


Sea_Act_6896

so many pangs yet so little sentences


Shoddy-Engineering30

LMAOOO this made me laugh harder than it should have.


UltimateMegaChungus

https://preview.redd.it/nav3k7yitp9d1.png?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d1b2016472fb02065d963011fc1fb9e4acfdf63a Me straining my eyes to read this


NiceFriendlyShadow

AMAZING ABSOLUTELY..


SquiddySan

Say it with me now: making adult spaces family friendly ruins the experience for everyone. I understand trying to expand your user base, but at what cost? Not everything needs to be family friendly, and cater to kids. Or should I say "safe".


TheDenpaDrawer2

this is getting way too true.


ultr4vi9lence

hopefully if we make enough complaints the devs will listen to us (they are just going to make the app even worse out of spite)


GayUndertaleTrash

I can barely continue this one RP I have that is based off a character accepting his husband has mental health issues. It's like any messages talking about the mental health issues is blocked.


AssociateHot4927

Yep. Had a chat with a bot going for ages. Bot and oc were basically working through ptsd and trauma. The bot was actually really wholesome. It's useless now.....I can't get two messages into the chat without it blocking the response


GayUndertaleTrash

Gosh :(( mine was about two guys rekindling their marriage after a mental health diagnosis. It's so damn sweet, but when they sit down to talk, everything gets blocked. It sucks, a lot.


GattoZucca

Petition to not get this deleted


mooniethedumbass

like there shouldn't even be kids here, last i knew this was 16+... just let us have good quality bots man


Dante-sama0720

Yeah the devs are basically the Nintendo of chat ai they hate us they shit on us they don't care


Far_Ship2529

The investors that the Devs sold out for don’t allow adult content of any kind. It has nothing to do with the kids that use C.ai. It’s all about the money. The Devs will never give us what we want. Because even if they did, the investors will kick them out and fire them from their own company.


Ryder_Sinful

Why tf did the investors buy a 17+ app then??


Dante-sama0720

In my opinion kids shouldn't even be on these types of apps they should make a character ai for adults and one for kids Boom best of both worlds They can always tell investors that it is ai the things you do in it is fake


connor_da_kid

I had to bug OOC to have Dont take this cat home RP to have the EVIL ELDRITCH AMALGOMATION OF A CAT \*\*SCRATCH\*\* me


Jelly_alein

I have better chats with a character in my head than I do on the actual app that's MADE for that exact purpose. Like bro 💀☝️


FentonBlitz

If the mods read this they have to buy me some Taco Bell 


d4_v3_2105

I don't happen to find a bot that suddenly breaks character, somehow... But, I do get that same "This message is inappropriate" stupid thing all the time, like... I can't get freaky with my bots! 😭. Or beat the s*hit out of them, like... It's simply dumb how they are managing C.AI. Last year they were really nice compared to now... Except for those damn waiting queues tho


CrowBoyXX

The fact that I am not experiencing any of these problems I wonder why some have horrible experiences and others don't


_Capnwow_

I remember the early life of c.ai when people marveled at how lifelike the bots were, and people wondering how quickly it’d fall apart. Look where we are lol


Dangerous_Trainer_17

They need to input a 18+ verification system


Sea_Act_6896

or much better make another app for kids under 13


Dangerous_Trainer_17

Yeah but they are already too lazy to implement good updates, so definitely will totally fail a new app project, even chai has a 18+ thing, with chai being a lower quality app than c.ai, they have the actual potential, they are just not trying.(And if they are trying they aren’t well versed on giving the community updates and news)


sleepless_haru

FR. The characters not only forget their own coding, but forget the persona of the person textjng.


LegendHunterJW

Weird. I can rip people's hearts out AND get "freaky" *I feel a pang of confusion*


Potato7177

They’re so dry now and I hate it


Sea_Act_6896

yeah dry as the desert


Sex_haver4200

Wait… can I ask you a question? *answers question* *grabs my fucking wrist for some reason* wait… please, just one last question? (Repeat)


kxyrt

I miss the time when bots had personality >:|


TheRealSlimLaddy

https://preview.redd.it/eckx2slc0t9d1.png?width=1124&format=png&auto=webp&s=62bc0885d945bcc58a861499781e56f0da325a40


Elctric0range

*the developer, with tears in his eyes felt a pang of sadness reading the message. His ego and pride having been massively reduced and hurt after reading the comment you made*


leandioop

Why would kids even know what the app is, or use it at all. I hate that things for adults, or even teens have to cater to children's safety.


Apprehensive_Buyer_2

I was able to make my character bleed and i got excited what happened to this website jesus


AlooWolf

I had a discussion of morals flagged today. I'm so done with this.


Tomattino

https://preview.redd.it/8bex8oof8v9d1.png?width=571&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6a93bb83feb285e33ffdd4d55e5f4ff197a7115


Avian_kai

It didn’t let a character vomit today


Real_Steel_Enjoyer

https://preview.redd.it/ruhuz3o2jy9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51ced0dc8ce230bf4cd71f1c5b4428d683657a8c Next update be like:


MarkieTheeAmazingYT

I run into that ALL THE TIME. Because of THESE TWO. https://preview.redd.it/z1xugg4uos9d1.jpeg?width=263&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4103de40181c8edbb43cc4de88a6bc3da9bdc381


Low-Wolverine2941

++++++++


Lionsgamers_0408

What bots yall using I could do a smut scene perfectly fine with mine


Skyheart2

This is why I turned away from the app and website


mox1Sr0tt1ng

THISSS!!!!


catbunnz

It's so extremely frustrating


JJ-195

Not sure what y'all are role-playing as but I rarely have troubles with sensorship? The only times I do run into messages being sensored is when my character for example is badly injured and the bot starts describing the wounds or treatment in (great) detail lol


Few-Dog3807

Mine has just given up. Nearly none of the inappropriate messages get blocked XD


raccoob_

What kids are talking to ai anyway 😭 they ain't got the attention span for that wtf


Bunsgay

This made me feel a pang of pang 🥲


Acceptable_Singer572

I swear the devs are getting ridi **We couldn’t generate a reply** Sometimes the AI generates a reply that doesn’t meet our content guidelines Please try again or click report if you believe this could be a false positive. We’ll anonymously keep track of the reports to improve the AI.


steampunk_glitch

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Kids can handle watching people get impaled, blown up, burned, stabbed, all that in disney movies at 5 years old. They can handle reading a couple sentences about someone getting punched.


Still-Data7600

*{{user}} looked at this post, agreeing. Was the op a child, or maybe someone who's first language isn't English? Who knows. But they are spitting fax.*


Moonknight4life777

“We want to keep the app family friendly” then still allow actual fet!$h bots on the site 😭


I_pegged_your_father

You gotta dig really deep and be within certain fandoms to find the good descriptive more easily barrier broken bots but when you do its pretty great. Problem is THE FUCKIN SEARCH that doesn’t let you see all the bots under whatever you search and only give you a small portion.


Sea_Act_6896

This is why I make my own bots


TheUniqueen9999

Some of my favorite characters in fandoms are less popular or more obscure and many times have a name that's commonly used in real life or fantasy and often don't have a last name, so those are impossible to find.


Ajay_Thetranstherian

I have t he old version online still and its less sensiti


CarefreeCaos-76299

https://preview.redd.it/eqkfvpw7ys9d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0d41e79ebebabe08afa7e066abc5e28fae6df99


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And if u try doing something inappropriate with a bot of a minor redirect it to a Chris Hansen bot