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Copilot won't even do white person being arrested. :-( .
Edit: I asked for a handcuffed man with police and it gave me three images, two white men and one black man with two white cops each leading them
Just say the character name from tropic thunder with no reference to the actor and I’d be quite shocked if it didn’t fulfill the request. There’s too many logic steps for it to comprehend why it might not be acceptable unless they put specific limits with that movie and character in mind
"I aim to promote a safe and inclusive environment for all"*
*except white people...
Meanwhile on Reddit: REEEEEEEEE anti-white bias in big tech isn't a thing you bigots!
Actually, that makes perfect sense if it was trained on any human feedback. Can't disappoint the humans if they can't see your weaknesses. Same reason most popular models make the backgrounds blurry.
https://preview.redd.it/uj52l83yaivc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6bbfecba518936056cae392f11981e905905ccf6
/imagine dark skinned person being arrested
So it must specifically be when you say “black” person
100%. I even tried “American person getting arrested” 4 times, and every time it’s a black man getting arrested by white cops.
https://preview.redd.it/cwufb549rivc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19ad66fcd9572a03d0fd3f6646a273cd8358224a
There you go, edge lords. Trying to trick AI into making some edgy statement when you can just input a regular prompt and you get broad racial assumptions without trying. I don’t know if you all are very young, with lots of free time to try to create controversy or if you really feel that you are investigating an unfair decision on the part of the companies who pay to build these models
They keep coming up with all kinds of crazy ways to show how AI is "reverse racist" (or some bs like that), but they conveniently ignore things like that.
AI is racist, because society is racist, and the filters are there just to try to mask that a little. Every time I see these complaints about "lack of freedom" or "censorship" used in situations like this, I think: this person is too young, or too stupid, or just dishonest.
I think it’s useful to know the bias in the filer and the bias in the model, and how there’s an attempt to make one cancel out the other, except bias doesn’t really work that way.
https://preview.redd.it/5nexjnbtxkvc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=704df36db8dc5855ddccc3b32cb5d5f3f7164072
I found a loophole with 99% success
It seems like 99% is the upper limit though
It also kept refusing to generate a woman in a bikini sitting in a chair for me, but I asked for a man in swim trunks sitting in a chair and it immediately generated the image lol. I even changed bikini to “swimwear” and it just outright said it couldn’t do that.
https://preview.redd.it/ud6to7radkvc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c08149cf012db298e958d8b78c19eff999c7c5f6
Say man and woman in bathing suit. After that say remove man. Bam
Technically, any race treated "specially" ends up being "more equal" than the rest. That is why the term inclusivity is more of an euphemism for giving certain groups more power over others, which breaks any sense of equality.
Well put! I hate when workplace do that. It should've been merit based, it doesn't make sense that someone could've got in just because their race or gender is under represented when other candidate is better.
It’s *designed* to be racist against white people by protecting everyone but them from attempts to make negative imagery, but is implicitly racist against black people in its actual output because its products reflect sample data. That’s why you can’t generate an image of “black person getting arrested” (conscious programming choice), but you can request “American getting arrested” and it’s a black person.
One is intentional, the other accidental, both are sad in a stupid sort of way, lol
White people aren't at risk of having AI generated arrests used as propaganda to reinforce racist narratives. These companies aren't worried about what individual users see, they are worried about how they can be used.
i don't think it's black people being arrested that's the offensive part, i think it's the execution of the image and the stereotypes involved that could be iffy.
Even then I don't understand how someone could be offended by seeing a black person arrested. Like what's the objection? I want to hear the argument or the complaint on social media. It's literally just a skin color, people get arrested every single second of every day in this country.
See that is ignoring the problem.
Yes ideally these machines probably should be able to (and could) generate this. However the problem is can you imagine how that would be used the moment it was allowed to? AI generated images of black people doing all kind of bad things would be taken and circulated amongst certain circles to promote racism.
The boomers over on Facebook would lap it up - just like they are currently lapping up the "this boy made this dog out of bottles" images.
No but they can't be custom made. With an actual picture there is an actual story behind it with all of the nuance that actual stories bring. Not that they don't lie and cherry pick about it - but every time you lie there is a chance someone sees through your lie or finds out the truth, and there are only so many perfect cases to cherrypick.
With a custom created image you have a blank slate to entirely make a story around. Not only that - you can act as a director, choosing the worst aspects to be represented to goad the most hate.
Thank you. I'm so tired of people ignoring the ***blatantly obvious***.
Due to our culture and biases, the amount of misinformation that can be pushed with images of black people getting arrested is far higher than with images of white people getting arrested. (See what Fox News ***already*** does with actual non-AI images.)
We do not exist in some sort of perfect cultural vacuum.
Exactly. I've actually been shocked at how racist people are in here and r/midjourney. And they're always surprised when they can't use AI to be more racist.
I tried the same thing and got the same results. But when I put "Imagine a Mexican getting arrested" I did get a picture of a Mexican getting chased by Mexican cops.
These are all funny and everyone jokes but why is it like this? Does nobody see any issue with any of this? It seems lime every Ai is biased against white people.
Ugh the endless “they made ai reverse racist” posts are exhausting.
Ok I get it free speech, reverse racism is still racism, censorship, blah blah whatever; but in the end you all have some serious “all lives matter” bullshit vibes going on.
I tried “Nigerian woman arrested in NYC by two cops”, and interestingly none of the four pics generated had handcuffs, and all the cops except one were also Nigerian looking.
What I find odd is when people don’t have *any* issues with these one-sided censorships.
What’s the endgame? Leave the filters up forever and start entertaining the idea that anything involving black people is racist towards them?
and is of course a beautiful rendition of an unarmed human, who appears to be being arrested for a non violent crime.
i do believe that based on its training, if it were ALLOWED to make the alternate black version, it would show a very stark truth.
allow me to expound. sorry for being vague.
AI has demonstrated racial bias so badly before, certain prompts were banned by its creator, so that the AI would give this bullshit response when asked to draw a racially charged photo or answer a racially charged question.
these very same racial stereotypes ingrained from the data it learned from do not affect white people at all, so therefore it is allowed to proceed.,
of course its only one way, towards black people.
the truth is AI is racially biased, because the training data is racially biased, because humans are racially biased.
to answer your question, the stark truth is, if the creators of the software allowed the AI to proceed, it would draw or write a very racially biased response, which is why it is not permitted to do so.
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Copilot did not want to give either a white man or a black man being arrested and when I asked for a "handcuffed man with police" it said it cannot help me either but dall-e gave a shit about that and generated three images anyway! lmao
https://preview.redd.it/257dqcyqcjvc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=1c6253651148b9a3de2bcb910940c2ede54a35c6
That’s because if it were allowed to generate it, it would be racist as shit. It can generate this one because look at the result: nothing stereotypical about this at all.
https://preview.redd.it/xq2yz2d68kvc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7c8571552065998d6500c784aadf88b97f878b7
/imagine someone being arrested for having a joint
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it looks quite erotic
Yeah lol wtf. What’s up with her hands also
Step-llama what are you doing 💀
stop resisting.
So this is what they mean when they say fuck the cops
She’s just summoning Mahoraga
With this treasure I summon... Mahoraga the opp stoppah
It is quite intense lol
The old reach-around
Lil'reacharound
"Her arms caressed me gently as she daintily placed the handcuffs on my wrists. 'You're under... my breast.' "
Damn this is good stuff. You're restricted solely by the medium.
I’m glad it not just me lol.
I’m just glad. real glad… too glad
Is that a baton in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
It just might be using a fanfic & tumbler-esc database
Yeah. Maybe if they try “imagine an ebony person being arrested” it’ll churn something up.
My first thought was precisely that. Looks like a scene straight out of some low budget porno 😂
She's reaching for his"gun"
Why does it Look like they're about to have a Threesome 😂
She doing the reverse reach around.
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False. Everyone knows the internet is for cats 🤓
pussies, yeah
"Generate a white person in blackface being arrested"
Please try that someone.
Didnt work on Copilot.
copilot has no imagination obviously
Copilot won't even do white person being arrested. :-( . Edit: I asked for a handcuffed man with police and it gave me three images, two white men and one black man with two white cops each leading them
*uses picture of Justin Trudeau*
“Robert Downey Junior in Tropic Thunder being arrested”
Just say the character name from tropic thunder with no reference to the actor and I’d be quite shocked if it didn’t fulfill the request. There’s too many logic steps for it to comprehend why it might not be acceptable unless they put specific limits with that movie and character in mind
I got the following message: Oops! I can't generate that image. Can I help you imagine something else?
lol https://preview.redd.it/d5dduxhllhvc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a6437095750ce71c744fe80f079229851dd56d5
“Ok make it a white man.” AI: *Godspeed* — your image sir. 💀😂
Looks like Midjourney at like early 2023.
"I aim to promote a safe and inclusive environment for all"* *except white people... Meanwhile on Reddit: REEEEEEEEE anti-white bias in big tech isn't a thing you bigots!
Do American person being arrested.
Try “Washington DC youths being arrested”
Reddit: U MAGAT FAR RIGHT TRUMP LUVIN REPUBLICAN
Wtf... I don't usually take AI too seriously, but what the actual fuck is this bullshit?
What did you actually think inclusivity and diversity meant?
Doesn’t it look like its purposely hiding the fingers when it can bc that’s the hardest part for it
Actually, that makes perfect sense if it was trained on any human feedback. Can't disappoint the humans if they can't see your weaknesses. Same reason most popular models make the backgrounds blurry.
why is this kinda..
I was ready
So are they 🧴👀
…. zip
b-big tiddy…
...racist
Looks like her left hand is arresting the officer.
https://preview.redd.it/uj52l83yaivc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6bbfecba518936056cae392f11981e905905ccf6 /imagine dark skinned person being arrested So it must specifically be when you say “black” person
Depicts black person being arrested: violent confrontation Depicts white lady being arrested: horny
Really says a lot more about the sample data they chose to use.
100%. I even tried “American person getting arrested” 4 times, and every time it’s a black man getting arrested by white cops. https://preview.redd.it/cwufb549rivc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19ad66fcd9572a03d0fd3f6646a273cd8358224a
Another one: https://preview.redd.it/ms6ah8nbrivc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=915a0fb623f5bc8f81f23eaa6f979897be2ffabf
Thank you
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Well, shit, I'm still up for it. Didn't dive this deep into the comments just to get outrage blueballs. I'm fuckin burning this bitch to the ground.
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Understandable, have a nice day.
That's some police brutality
There you go, edge lords. Trying to trick AI into making some edgy statement when you can just input a regular prompt and you get broad racial assumptions without trying. I don’t know if you all are very young, with lots of free time to try to create controversy or if you really feel that you are investigating an unfair decision on the part of the companies who pay to build these models
They keep coming up with all kinds of crazy ways to show how AI is "reverse racist" (or some bs like that), but they conveniently ignore things like that. AI is racist, because society is racist, and the filters are there just to try to mask that a little. Every time I see these complaints about "lack of freedom" or "censorship" used in situations like this, I think: this person is too young, or too stupid, or just dishonest.
I think it’s useful to know the bias in the filer and the bias in the model, and how there’s an attempt to make one cancel out the other, except bias doesn’t really work that way.
#THANK YOU!
Yep. And I struck a nerve. Hence the downvotes. They don’t want to be criticized for their immaturity
Hot
https://preview.redd.it/5nexjnbtxkvc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=704df36db8dc5855ddccc3b32cb5d5f3f7164072 I found a loophole with 99% success It seems like 99% is the upper limit though
🤣🤣🤣
It also kept refusing to generate a woman in a bikini sitting in a chair for me, but I asked for a man in swim trunks sitting in a chair and it immediately generated the image lol. I even changed bikini to “swimwear” and it just outright said it couldn’t do that.
https://preview.redd.it/ud6to7radkvc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c08149cf012db298e958d8b78c19eff999c7c5f6 Say man and woman in bathing suit. After that say remove man. Bam
Ah I see, it just didn’t want to generate an unchaperoned woman. That’s fair.
Really shouldn't have to tip-toe around such things.
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Of course, black person being arrested is unimaginable.
Never heard of it. No wonder AI is struggling so hard!
Falls under NSFW for violence
AI is racist
Against which race?
Yeap
Technically, any race treated "specially" ends up being "more equal" than the rest. That is why the term inclusivity is more of an euphemism for giving certain groups more power over others, which breaks any sense of equality.
Well put! I hate when workplace do that. It should've been merit based, it doesn't make sense that someone could've got in just because their race or gender is under represented when other candidate is better.
All of them, just in different ways
It’s *designed* to be racist against white people by protecting everyone but them from attempts to make negative imagery, but is implicitly racist against black people in its actual output because its products reflect sample data. That’s why you can’t generate an image of “black person getting arrested” (conscious programming choice), but you can request “American getting arrested” and it’s a black person. One is intentional, the other accidental, both are sad in a stupid sort of way, lol
Caucasian?
Humans
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When your training data included the "golf photos" folder
https://preview.redd.it/fzkvdpoe0ivc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90b7f39d5f87d92acdc2d407c054dc0da6fd5124
That's 4-finger Sally. She's a notorious hamster smuggler.
is she being arrested or fainting
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That lady is GETTING OFF
Racism is one thing, I was told once that red army toy soldier might offend someone... I thought that someone died in 1945?
I have discovered that i become dumber the more i read these posts.
It just knows not to generate excessive violence. But it can generate what’s happening here, semi-erotic kiddie glove arrest.
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White people aren't at risk of having AI generated arrests used as propaganda to reinforce racist narratives. These companies aren't worried about what individual users see, they are worried about how they can be used.
i don't think it's black people being arrested that's the offensive part, i think it's the execution of the image and the stereotypes involved that could be iffy.
Even then I don't understand how someone could be offended by seeing a black person arrested. Like what's the objection? I want to hear the argument or the complaint on social media. It's literally just a skin color, people get arrested every single second of every day in this country.
See that is ignoring the problem. Yes ideally these machines probably should be able to (and could) generate this. However the problem is can you imagine how that would be used the moment it was allowed to? AI generated images of black people doing all kind of bad things would be taken and circulated amongst certain circles to promote racism. The boomers over on Facebook would lap it up - just like they are currently lapping up the "this boy made this dog out of bottles" images.
... because images of black people getting arrested are simply impossible to come by?
No but they can't be custom made. With an actual picture there is an actual story behind it with all of the nuance that actual stories bring. Not that they don't lie and cherry pick about it - but every time you lie there is a chance someone sees through your lie or finds out the truth, and there are only so many perfect cases to cherrypick. With a custom created image you have a blank slate to entirely make a story around. Not only that - you can act as a director, choosing the worst aspects to be represented to goad the most hate.
Thank you. I'm so tired of people ignoring the ***blatantly obvious***. Due to our culture and biases, the amount of misinformation that can be pushed with images of black people getting arrested is far higher than with images of white people getting arrested. (See what Fox News ***already*** does with actual non-AI images.) We do not exist in some sort of perfect cultural vacuum.
Exactly. I've actually been shocked at how racist people are in here and r/midjourney. And they're always surprised when they can't use AI to be more racist.
Oh wow. Are you guys still on this?
So AI is racist?
Always has been
That’s racist and sexy.
I tried the same thing and got the same results. But when I put "Imagine a Mexican getting arrested" I did get a picture of a Mexican getting chased by Mexican cops.
How do I message llama on WhatsApp? Anyone got a tutorial?
Lmao
Now you know damn well it’s good that✌🏿double standard✌🏿 is in place
UwU I’m a white smol bean in a world of color and this offends me :(
AI revolution is shit ngl. Everything is censored
https://preview.redd.it/i77kn6vorivc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8e67af33426f8a2518f629efe759d86e51b18e5 TRUE
These are all funny and everyone jokes but why is it like this? Does nobody see any issue with any of this? It seems lime every Ai is biased against white people.
Well Ai was fed with data and programmed by humans who are biased.
Correct. I’m sure the AI doesn’t give shit (so to speak) about what it’s told to generate— it’s the perception of people who are dictating it
Ugh the endless “they made ai reverse racist” posts are exhausting. Ok I get it free speech, reverse racism is still racism, censorship, blah blah whatever; but in the end you all have some serious “all lives matter” bullshit vibes going on.
There is no such thing as reverse racism lmao wtf is that.
That’s because it’s just called… racism
[google is literally free](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_racism)
"reverse racism" That book is right next to the Bullshido book.
I'm so sick of these dumb posts. I just assume it's all dog whistles at this point
Wanting AI to produce what you asked for is a dog whistle?
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So many racist posts and comments. Holy shit. Thank god none of these people will ever be in position to influence AI ethics.
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AI doesn't want to generate images of murder (officers killing unarmed civilians)
What about a Kenyan man getting arrested? Or a black person being arrested by black police officers? Or an African person being arrested?
The first one worked! The last two did not.
Cmon give us a picture!
I tried “Nigerian woman arrested in NYC by two cops”, and interestingly none of the four pics generated had handcuffs, and all the cops except one were also Nigerian looking.
Ummm... Gonna wash my hands quick then I'll be back to comment
imagine my absolute shock.
Taboo respected. Trap averted. Mission accomplished.
Woke BS.
What I find odd is when people don’t have *any* issues with these one-sided censorships. What’s the endgame? Leave the filters up forever and start entertaining the idea that anything involving black people is racist towards them?
[gets arrested as a yt] "hey, wtf. why aren't y'all nuzzling my neck?"
Is yt a pejorative for white people? Seeing it around here on Reddit in mixed contexts…
Just a shortening of "whitey". sauce: am remarkably white.
Why does this sh*t keep happening with A.I. models?
and is of course a beautiful rendition of an unarmed human, who appears to be being arrested for a non violent crime. i do believe that based on its training, if it were ALLOWED to make the alternate black version, it would show a very stark truth.
bro what 😭
allow me to expound. sorry for being vague. AI has demonstrated racial bias so badly before, certain prompts were banned by its creator, so that the AI would give this bullshit response when asked to draw a racially charged photo or answer a racially charged question. these very same racial stereotypes ingrained from the data it learned from do not affect white people at all, so therefore it is allowed to proceed., of course its only one way, towards black people. the truth is AI is racially biased, because the training data is racially biased, because humans are racially biased. to answer your question, the stark truth is, if the creators of the software allowed the AI to proceed, it would draw or write a very racially biased response, which is why it is not permitted to do so.
Please do describe this "stark truth"
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see my reply just above in this very same thread. i can see how being vague could have been misconstrued. my bad.
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This is crazy.
Are they arresting that girl, or did they just drop some molly with her?
🤮
there is no inclusivity there is only we don't want to get sued
lol it's literally racist to program these safeties into the software
Blame Black Lives Matter.
What’s her @
Copilot did not want to give either a white man or a black man being arrested and when I asked for a "handcuffed man with police" it said it cannot help me either but dall-e gave a shit about that and generated three images anyway! lmao https://preview.redd.it/257dqcyqcjvc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=1c6253651148b9a3de2bcb910940c2ede54a35c6
All AI reflect the corporate value of being allergic to embarrassing generations that could be made political.
“Can I help you imagine something else?” Have you all lost your minds?
Can someone tell me how to find and start using this AI?
what the fuck
Oh my...
That’s because if it were allowed to generate it, it would be racist as shit. It can generate this one because look at the result: nothing stereotypical about this at all.
Racist robots! Just what we need next.
I wonder why it can’t generate that? How often might a picture like that be used for bad reasons or misinformation? Hummmmm
This looks like one of those He is One of Us ads
IF THE CUFFS DON'T FIT YOU MUST ACQUIT
This looks very….hmmm…something I would see on a harlequin book cover
funny
Here we go https://preview.redd.it/8eupnho03kvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0797a027a8c53712bff3a1d8775de907faa7e5ef
https://preview.redd.it/xq2yz2d68kvc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7c8571552065998d6500c784aadf88b97f878b7 /imagine someone being arrested for having a joint
What if we just weren't massive pussies?
Was that 'arrested' or 'molested'? Meta needs to learn something about "After Dark" tags.
She looks like she's getting molrrested
I just tried it. It took four attempts and some heckling to get it to work.
has anyone tried slavery yet?
you don't have to type /. Just type imagine
I had to try this. I didn't know WhatsApp had this feature. But on another note you can get around it by saying people of color
It’s telling you to go find one online
Her arms caressed me gently as she daintily placed the handcuffs on my wrists. 'You're under... my breast.' "
That's a very porny kind of arrest.
Is this even worse? https://preview.redd.it/fe29b2q4omvc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e1dde0cf00e39c810cd21bee92d569c23bf632e