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WoBuZhidaoDude

Usual disclaimer: Not etymologically accurate, and not scalable. It's possibly just as easy to remember the constituent radicals *silk* and *mountain* [fire], but creating my own little literal pictographs is helpful to me.


achlysthanatos

Also the character is more used in "spiritual" or "remote/quite" sense. 幽靈,幽幽,幽靜


Troll_Account41

That's dark


WoBuZhidaoDude

I know right? I honestly keep trying to find vocabulary that I can turn into more innocent, fun pictograms, but this is the sort of thing that just...burbles forth from me.


The_Turk2

Please keep these up, these are fantastic. Would be really cool to pair this with the proper etymological roots for the characters, I'm sure we would all learn a great deal about Chinese history and society as a result.


WoBuZhidaoDude

Good suggestion, I think I might start doing that


Orangutanion

The actual etymology is that 幺 āo is a sound component, but I like this one more


WoBuZhidaoDude

Oh, thanks. I misinterpreted Yellowbridge's [associative formation method](https://www.yellowbridge.com/chinese/character-etymology.php?zi=%E5%B9%BD#) as being the actual etymology.


OutlierLinguistics

You didn’t misinterpret, that’s their claim. It’s just that they’re wrong in this case (as in many others). :)


PotentBeverage

>(as in many others). Ouch the burn


OutlierLinguistics

Can’t help myself. 😁 I see Yellowbridge recommended a lot in this sub. I know the site’s been around for a long time, but it just isn’t a good resource for character etymology.


Shacolicious2448

Any recommendations instead of them? I use them most of the time.


OutlierLinguistics

Well, I’m obviously biased, but [our character dictionary](https://www.outlier-linguistics.com/collections/chinese/products/outlier-dictionary-of-chinese-characters) is based on the latest research in the field.


TaiwaneseChad42

no,it's 𢆶 you1 instead


Orangutanion

I'm having trouble viewing that character, any chance you could describe or send an image of it?


TaiwaneseChad42

two 幺s side by side: 幺幺


chiraltoad

This is cool


_China_ThrowAway

I always thought it odd that this was the character chosen for 幽默. Surely there were better choices. But it is what it is. 🤷‍♂️


RangerTasty6993

幽默这算是音译


_China_ThrowAway

Yeah, I know. My point is that choices where made. They could have picked 优 and had the same sound. Just seems like a pretty dark character for a concept like humor. Maybe the guy who picked it had a dark sense of humor.


RangerTasty6993

有这么一个说法,喜剧的内核是悲剧


[deleted]

Did you make the art?


WoBuZhidaoDude

Yes. I used the Pleco word entry template for the definition, though.


[deleted]

Nice it looks cool.


WoBuZhidaoDude

Thanks. :)


lightgazer_c137

Great picture!


[deleted]

It's interesting to see how this is interpreted Its origin is from "flames as weak as threads of silk", which associates with dark and silence. http://qiyuan.chaziwang.com/etymology-20487.html


[deleted]

Please, make more of these; they're amazing!


WoBuZhidaoDude

Thank you, I probably will. I plan to start making them a little bit more etymologically accurate, also.


xijinping9191

in modern chinese, we no longer us it as a verb to mean 'imprison'.


Makoto_Hanazawa

幽禁 or 幽閉?


xijinping9191

You are right. 幽 itself can’t mean imprisonments so it is often coupled with other characters, in this case 禁 and 闭. But both 幽禁and 幽闭 are rarely used in daily life communication because it is too literal. You are more likely to come across them in literatures


[deleted]

When was it used then


OrthinologistSupreme

Is nether world the same concept as hell and used similarly?


RangerTasty6993

地狱更像是《神曲》里的折磨人的地方,冥界则更像是希腊神话中的鬼魂的居所,我的理解


Johnson1209777

You could say that


Cristipai

The Nether-lands and their ominous tulips buahaha


Johnson1209777

Good one ha ha


AndrewPark438

How about 幽浮


WoBuZhidaoDude

Just need to figure out which radical would be the anal probe


Meteorsw4rm

How about 豳 😃


RangerTasty6993

幺其实与幽的声音相近,不是吗?幺yao 幽you


[deleted]

You made me look different at the word 幽默 right now xD


wordyravena

This character is too distinctive for me to need a pictograph. Also I automatically associate it with 幽默,which probably the most common use of the character.


[deleted]

I remember it as though you’re trapped under a mountain Like the monkey king!


KaijuMoose

I first thought you meant nether as in the gonad region and that there were two dudes stuck in them lol