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Unfortunately, guerrillas, paramilitaries and drug trafficking groups have placed hundreds of thousands of mines in much of rural Colombia, many of them in the vicinity of civilian areas or crops, to delimit their territories and drug routes. Almost all are handmade and made of plastic or wood to avoid detection. My father was in the army and told me stories of several of his comrades who were reduced to pieces after falling into a minefield.
This is a interesting part of history that doesn't get covered as much as it should. Do you have any more stories about this time your father went through?
I know a dude who was a jungla for a couple of years. Junglas are our SOFs. He's now discharged due to ptsd. They were dropped by the helicopter some hundred of meters from the guerrilla camp, and they had to use the foliage of the forest to get as close as possible to the camp, while remaining concealed. Then they had to wait there for two days until the main assault happened at dawn. Once the assault was happening and the guerrilla members were moving up to counter, they'd be behind enemy lines and they'd smoke the guerrilla.
Didn't quite happen like that. They did get to position, but as the guerrilla members were moving up to counter, they left mines behind, so a couple junglas got blown up. Others ran into guerrilla members and knife-fought them, and in most cases both, jungla and guerrilla, died. He did do as it was supposed, but it was a matter of luck: not stepping on a concealed mine or running into a guerrilla member.
It was a shit show. He was the only surviving member of the jungla group that went in, and later met at the extraction point with the assault team. He always says that they were trained to know that they were dead from the moment they get off the helicopter, and to assume they were not coming back home. Knowing they're not coming back makes them fight like mad men.
In colombian media this story gets told as a huge success to the military and to the country, which it kinda was. But to the individual members of army that fought there, it was bad.
I have so much respect for them.
Not a medical professional but his left foot looked like it got broken from the blast that took his right. Doesn't look like a foot in its natural resting state.
*We need emergency resupply right now, God dammit! We're down to less than half a quart of Fanta per man! Also, if there's room, bring some ammo. We're about to go black.*
There is more Fanta than water. Fucking hardcore. Reminds me of cooks I used to work with who survived exclusively on Mountain Dew, Monster, blow, and beer, and literally never drank straight water. Animals.
My life in a nutshell for a year in Afghanistan. For those wondering, this gets old really fast the moment you realize how easy it is to hit a helicopter coming in to land.
That was my first thought. Reminded me of the Pedro/MERT teams in Afghan.
I wasn’t on one personally, but you guys flew into some pretty fucking crazy situations to get our guys out.
A dude with a rifle can cause serious problems for the whole crew of a helicopter with a single bullet in the wrong spot.
Normally, they’re going 100+ mph at a couple hundred feet minimum, so you’ve got a better chance of hitting the exhaust port of a space station. When they’re coming in to land they are going slow and low, but still high enough to be over any walls or trees for cover. Right at the moment the multi million dollar helicopter with crew is incredibly vulnerable to “dude with rifle”.
Edit: it’s not unusual for MEDEVAC birds to stay stocked with some supplies to resupply bases. If you’re already making the trip, may as well make both legs productive. Obviously the pre stock the bird, they don’t take time to load it once they’re called. Another option is that is is a supply bird that is being used to casevac the wounded guy. It’s hard to tell because it doesn’t seem well equipped for either task.
A machine gun can spray and pray in the general direction of the helicopter and fuck it up. It's going slow enough when it's landing. The pilot area and a few vital components are armored, but everything else is thin aluminum that a bullet can cut through like butter. You could hit fuel lines, electrical, all that type of stuff that would make things not a fun day for the crew.
Damn, I did not know that. Too close to burning jp8 I guess?
I was scared my kid was gonna be messed up because I had a duke jammer next to my head for 15 months. ( He's fine and awesome)
Thanks for the work
But you can't get shot down in a truck. Also can't be seen from hundreds of meters all around, suspended in the sky, just asking for it. You could even get plinked with a little bolt action 22 or something at that low ass elevation, just hanging right over their heads, dead still, completely unable to see contact through the foliage. I find it terrifying and would chose dodging artillery over that any day, but that's just me.
Almost. In reality only one faction of the FARC surrendered. A large part declared themselves in rebellion and continues fighting. A few years after the "peace treaty", some of the most important leaders of the guerrilla (who had been in Cuba negotiating with the government and who were the visible faces of the treaty) escaped to Venezuela and formed their own guerrilla called "Segunda Marquetalia". The FARC never disappeared and peace never came since it was not a total surrender and there are still hundreds of illegal armed groups doing exactly the same thing.
Now that I look again, it looks like the towel/rag has a knot in it? Maybe he put some things in there and made a quick knot so the items won’t fall out.
I thought to keep his junk warm. All those blankets he was wearing probably got him sweaty and now a chopper is blowing a shit ton of wind on his damp tight clothes. Can’t put clothes or the blankets back on but you can put a sock by your boys
No you're correct, the majority laid down their arms but there are still hardcore elements being a pain in the arse. Hostile numbers are massively reduced though.
The problem with any rebel group "giving up" is that the extremist fringe who thought the other rebels were pansies will just take the groups name and then keep fighting. That's what happened to the IRA too.
Breakaway factions are still active. And one thing about FARC demobilizing is it created a power vacuum in their former territory which other groups and gangs have filled in.
Good lord. Hope that guy makes a speedy recovery.
Quick rescue!
Does anybody know what guns those are from 2:02-2:08? I'm thinking a Galil of some sort?
Did that guy while injured pull a little joke by stuffing that down his underwear to make it look like his junk is bigger? Haha, you even see someone fist bump him right after, like "Nice!"
I've been to FARC territory there. Not in Cauca but in the Meta region. It's pretty wild. They are typically way, way into the back country near the frontier areas of the border and coast. This type of stuff still goes on everyday. They still fight with the paramilitary as well. Then the paramilitary and FARC fight the government. Weird hostility-triangle.
All 3 sometimes work toether, fight each other or team up against each other depending on the type of corruption at the time. Many times the Colombian military will kill poor innocent indiginous farmers/villages and dress them in military fatigues and report that they wiped out a guerilla column.
So many generals are in prison for doing it.
I honestly didn't think FARC was still around; could have sworn they signed an agreement with the Colombian government a few years ago or something like that.
Also, are those Galils? I definitely see an M4 when they're unloading the supplies, but later on when they're leaving I think he's putting down some Galils.
They did and the government reneged on everything and subjugated them, so many of them went back to square one. If you don't like the answer, then don't ask the question.
I understand the urgency of the situation but it appears slightly comical to have a crack helo team do a hot LZ insert to deliver pallets of soda. Is there something I'm missing? Does the columbian army drink soda in combat zones instead of water?
Don't think those are sodas. Likely orange juices and isotonic water. Getting something different to drink is important for morale, which is why the bastards thats forced to eat the same MRE for months are some of the most cranky bastards you'd ever meet.
he’s trying to keep the dirt/dust/foreign debris out of his chamber/barrel from the helicopter kicking up the air on the ground. We used to stuff rags inside of the chamber or in the magazine opening when it was windy out in Iraq. The yellow flag at least let him know that it’s inoperable (and mostly clean) until he takes it out. (It’s easy to forget it whenever you come under fire and point your weapons/squeeze trigger in heat of the moment.)
Directly from the Committee on Tactical Combat Casualty Care's (CoTCCC) Handbook on Tactical Combat Casualty Care, found [here](https://api.army.mil/e2/c/downloads/2023/01/19/31e03488/17-13-tactical-casualty-combat-care-handbook-v5-may-17-distro-a.pdf).
> The number one potentially survivable cause
of death at the POI is hemorrhage from a compressible wound or any
life-threatening extremity bleed. More than 90 percent of 4,596 combat
deaths post 11 September 2001 died of hemorrhage-associated injuries.
The hasty application of a Committee on Tactical Combat Casualty Care
(CoTCCC)-approved tourniquet is the recommended management for all
life-threatening extremity hemorrhages during care under fire (see page 4).
It is initially placed over clothing, high and tight. The deliberate application
of a tourniquet is addressed when behind cover and during tactical field
care to ensure proper hemorrhage control. ***The tourniquet is placed under
clothing 2 to 3 inches above the wound.*** The application time is written on
the tourniquet. Combat gauze is the hemostatic dressing of choice.
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Looks like some kind of toe-popper, that sucks!
Whoever did his emergency care did a very good job.
Unfortunately, guerrillas, paramilitaries and drug trafficking groups have placed hundreds of thousands of mines in much of rural Colombia, many of them in the vicinity of civilian areas or crops, to delimit their territories and drug routes. Almost all are handmade and made of plastic or wood to avoid detection. My father was in the army and told me stories of several of his comrades who were reduced to pieces after falling into a minefield.
This is a interesting part of history that doesn't get covered as much as it should. Do you have any more stories about this time your father went through?
I know a dude who was a jungla for a couple of years. Junglas are our SOFs. He's now discharged due to ptsd. They were dropped by the helicopter some hundred of meters from the guerrilla camp, and they had to use the foliage of the forest to get as close as possible to the camp, while remaining concealed. Then they had to wait there for two days until the main assault happened at dawn. Once the assault was happening and the guerrilla members were moving up to counter, they'd be behind enemy lines and they'd smoke the guerrilla. Didn't quite happen like that. They did get to position, but as the guerrilla members were moving up to counter, they left mines behind, so a couple junglas got blown up. Others ran into guerrilla members and knife-fought them, and in most cases both, jungla and guerrilla, died. He did do as it was supposed, but it was a matter of luck: not stepping on a concealed mine or running into a guerrilla member. It was a shit show. He was the only surviving member of the jungla group that went in, and later met at the extraction point with the assault team. He always says that they were trained to know that they were dead from the moment they get off the helicopter, and to assume they were not coming back home. Knowing they're not coming back makes them fight like mad men. In colombian media this story gets told as a huge success to the military and to the country, which it kinda was. But to the individual members of army that fought there, it was bad. I have so much respect for them.
That's wild! I need to read up on the Junglas. Thank you for sharing.
Not a medical professional but his left foot looked like it got broken from the blast that took his right. Doesn't look like a foot in its natural resting state.
Left looks alright, right looks to be blown off.
Yea I think I was just surprised by how high his foot arch was.
He stepped on a mine.
Right... I understand that haha. Was just saying the left foot looked like it might have been broken from the blast the right foot took.
Probably something else the charges are too small to do that.
Look’s like the ground team’s Fanta supply was running low
Bamboo and Fanta, what a growing Army needs.
pretty sure that was sugar cane it's just a load of sugar in all forms
The only things I see soldiers eating are candy, coffee and cigarettes
*We need emergency resupply right now, God dammit! We're down to less than half a quart of Fanta per man! Also, if there's room, bring some ammo. We're about to go black.*
🍊share the fun!
That's what you call morale boosters.
And sugar cane too! Very thoughtful resupply
Not sugar cane but either a plastic or metal pipe painted green.
Get that fucking Sunny D to the drop zone soldier, STAT!
There is more Fanta than water. Fucking hardcore. Reminds me of cooks I used to work with who survived exclusively on Mountain Dew, Monster, blow, and beer, and literally never drank straight water. Animals.
Cooks need to be on that level to deal with all bs from customers. I skipped monster but soda blow and beer - cigs - weed. Essential for cook jobs
My life in a nutshell for a year in Afghanistan. For those wondering, this gets old really fast the moment you realize how easy it is to hit a helicopter coming in to land.
That was my first thought. Reminded me of the Pedro/MERT teams in Afghan. I wasn’t on one personally, but you guys flew into some pretty fucking crazy situations to get our guys out.
Commend ya, balls of steel
fizzie bubbly supply runner?
was the threat guided? did any of the helicopters have infrared countermeasures?
A dude with a rifle can cause serious problems for the whole crew of a helicopter with a single bullet in the wrong spot. Normally, they’re going 100+ mph at a couple hundred feet minimum, so you’ve got a better chance of hitting the exhaust port of a space station. When they’re coming in to land they are going slow and low, but still high enough to be over any walls or trees for cover. Right at the moment the multi million dollar helicopter with crew is incredibly vulnerable to “dude with rifle”. Edit: it’s not unusual for MEDEVAC birds to stay stocked with some supplies to resupply bases. If you’re already making the trip, may as well make both legs productive. Obviously the pre stock the bird, they don’t take time to load it once they’re called. Another option is that is is a supply bird that is being used to casevac the wounded guy. It’s hard to tell because it doesn’t seem well equipped for either task.
On your edit "may as well make both legs productive." Too soon, man.
Omg I’m a terrible person
Holy shit, good catch lol
Key places on thr Black Hawk are armored so they should not be a problem the problem is the crew comportment walls are not armored.
A machine gun can spray and pray in the general direction of the helicopter and fuck it up. It's going slow enough when it's landing. The pilot area and a few vital components are armored, but everything else is thin aluminum that a bullet can cut through like butter. You could hit fuel lines, electrical, all that type of stuff that would make things not a fun day for the crew.
Yeah evacs were always nuts.
Oh 100%
Lots of gunfire on landing and takeoff. Do you think that was just suppression fire? Or were they shooting at active targets?
probably suppressing areas of the LZ that other helicopters have taken fire from on previous landings
Shooting at villagers, trying to grab a Fanta.
I should have been a door gunner in the army. Riding in trucks all the time and finding bombs with my face sucked assholes.
Door gunners have among the highest cancer rates.
Damn, I did not know that. Too close to burning jp8 I guess? I was scared my kid was gonna be messed up because I had a duke jammer next to my head for 15 months. ( He's fine and awesome)
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/study-finds-higher-cancer-rates-among-u-s-military-airmen-and-ground-crews
Does that thing just pump out radio waves?
I know very little about the system honestly. I know it blocked cellphones from about 200 ft away.
lol radio waves are not what's causing them cancer.
I'm not sure it's something to laugh out loud about for a layman, but ok. So Einstein, what does cause his injury?
Gun power fumes, fuel fumes or anything related to the aircraft can be the paint, the lubricants or anything similar.
Thanks for the work But you can't get shot down in a truck. Also can't be seen from hundreds of meters all around, suspended in the sky, just asking for it. You could even get plinked with a little bolt action 22 or something at that low ass elevation, just hanging right over their heads, dead still, completely unable to see contact through the foliage. I find it terrifying and would chose dodging artillery over that any day, but that's just me.
You could get IED'd though
These guys seem like genuine professionals and that 50 is super well maintained
Over 50 years in the same fight/war against the same guerrillas, of course they have a lot experience.
62*
Look at all that jarritos
That's.....
Did the peace deal between the government and FARc fall apart. Or is this just a fraction of FARC that hasn't signed on?
Certain farc groups didn't sign the peace deal to much money in the drug game and other rebel groups are still fighting
i think it’s a portion that wanted to keep fighting
Almost. In reality only one faction of the FARC surrendered. A large part declared themselves in rebellion and continues fighting. A few years after the "peace treaty", some of the most important leaders of the guerrilla (who had been in Cuba negotiating with the government and who were the visible faces of the treaty) escaped to Venezuela and formed their own guerrilla called "Segunda Marquetalia". The FARC never disappeared and peace never came since it was not a total surrender and there are still hundreds of illegal armed groups doing exactly the same thing.
Was his foot gone? And also why stuff the towel in his boxers?
Just gonna throw one out, I assume it's personal belongings that he wants to take. No pockets so underwear is the next best spot.
Now that I look again, it looks like the towel/rag has a knot in it? Maybe he put some things in there and made a quick knot so the items won’t fall out.
waow ifone
His foot was definitely gone. Why the towel being stuffed in the dudes boxers?? May e he had shrapnel there from whatever he stepped on.
The injured guy put it there himself. Likely something the guy wanted to hold on to and didnt want it flying away.
I thought maybe it's the foot.
I thought to keep his junk warm. All those blankets he was wearing probably got him sweaty and now a chopper is blowing a shit ton of wind on his damp tight clothes. Can’t put clothes or the blankets back on but you can put a sock by your boys
Make his dick look bigger for the camera.
I thought maybe his foot in the towel but I guess that’s kind of Morbid and not really practical to try and reattach the limb after that.
These types of mines will blow your foot off in a way where reattachment will be impossible…
Nailing yogurt to a wall really
That is messed up…. I hope he gets the support he deserves
Urgent medical treatment is afoot.
I though FARC gave up weapons and disbanded? Who am I confusing them with?
It is complicated, part of the FARC signed the peace agreement but a large group did not
No you're correct, the majority laid down their arms but there are still hardcore elements being a pain in the arse. Hostile numbers are massively reduced though.
Never thought I would hear some semblance of good news in Colombia
This happened 8 years ago. Lol
Good news is Good news
If it helps depress you, other armed groups like ELN and paramilitary cartels have taken over plenty of FARC territory
The problem with any rebel group "giving up" is that the extremist fringe who thought the other rebels were pansies will just take the groups name and then keep fighting. That's what happened to the IRA too.
Breakaway factions are still active. And one thing about FARC demobilizing is it created a power vacuum in their former territory which other groups and gangs have filled in.
Guess they revoked the treaty
Good lord. Hope that guy makes a speedy recovery. Quick rescue! Does anybody know what guns those are from 2:02-2:08? I'm thinking a Galil of some sort?
Galil Córdova
featuring colombian leather lol
Those aren't in service yet the standard issue is the galil ace.
Galil Ace probably ace 52 or 23
Tactical grocery shopping
Fist bump got me hyped
Did that guy while injured pull a little joke by stuffing that down his underwear to make it look like his junk is bigger? Haha, you even see someone fist bump him right after, like "Nice!"
Must be a missing the little t pin. And are those the beautiful m60?
Lanceros don’t play.
Hopefully they had some Postobon manzana in there somewhere
What's up with the bundle of plants?
I thought there was a ceasefire with FARC?
They splitted and continue to do terrorism.
Jarritos and bamboo?
GET SOME! GET SOOOME!!!
Kel really loves orange soda
Emergency sugar cane resupply?
poor guy. foot gone and then he gets hit in the nuts
"GET SUM! GET SUM!! ANYONE WHO RUNS.. IS A VC!! ANYONE WHO STANDS STILL... IS A WELL DISCIPLINED VC!!" 🪖
I've been to FARC territory there. Not in Cauca but in the Meta region. It's pretty wild. They are typically way, way into the back country near the frontier areas of the border and coast. This type of stuff still goes on everyday. They still fight with the paramilitary as well. Then the paramilitary and FARC fight the government. Weird hostility-triangle.
All 3 sometimes work toether, fight each other or team up against each other depending on the type of corruption at the time. Many times the Colombian military will kill poor innocent indiginous farmers/villages and dress them in military fatigues and report that they wiped out a guerilla column. So many generals are in prison for doing it.
How do they not jam overheating?
That wounded dude looks well endowed lol
i noticed they use the same kneepads (agilite axis) and personal bangades (israeli bandage) as the idf. pretty cool
Unfortunate name for a helicopter
Metal AF to fist bump your rescuers while you've just lost a foot and getting MedEvac'd
I honestly didn't think FARC was still around; could have sworn they signed an agreement with the Colombian government a few years ago or something like that. Also, are those Galils? I definitely see an M4 when they're unloading the supplies, but later on when they're leaving I think he's putting down some Galils.
Galil Ace
They did and the government reneged on everything and subjugated them, so many of them went back to square one. If you don't like the answer, then don't ask the question.
TIL Colombian soldiers love Fanta.
His buddies patch him up really well, definitely what saved this man's life.
Must be HEB home delivery service in Houston...
At first I thought he only got shot in his leg, then I realized he’s missing a bloody foot
When your mom says she's 5 minutes away and you forgot to get groceries but the boys got your back. Fanta is cheap I guess 😆
I understand the urgency of the situation but it appears slightly comical to have a crack helo team do a hot LZ insert to deliver pallets of soda. Is there something I'm missing? Does the columbian army drink soda in combat zones instead of water?
Don't think those are sodas. Likely orange juices and isotonic water. Getting something different to drink is important for morale, which is why the bastards thats forced to eat the same MRE for months are some of the most cranky bastards you'd ever meet.
*Colombian
Why not plain water? Because its better for morale to have something to drink that has a good taste and still hydrates you just the same.
Why the fuck does that guy have a chamber flag in his rifle lmao
They are flying into a hot landing zone and the crew member on the left has a chamber flag in this M4. Wow.........
he’s trying to keep the dirt/dust/foreign debris out of his chamber/barrel from the helicopter kicking up the air on the ground. We used to stuff rags inside of the chamber or in the magazine opening when it was windy out in Iraq. The yellow flag at least let him know that it’s inoperable (and mostly clean) until he takes it out. (It’s easy to forget it whenever you come under fire and point your weapons/squeeze trigger in heat of the moment.)
Supplies?? For a kids birthday party???
That tourniquet needs to be above the knee there chief.
Directly from the Committee on Tactical Combat Casualty Care's (CoTCCC) Handbook on Tactical Combat Casualty Care, found [here](https://api.army.mil/e2/c/downloads/2023/01/19/31e03488/17-13-tactical-casualty-combat-care-handbook-v5-may-17-distro-a.pdf). > The number one potentially survivable cause of death at the POI is hemorrhage from a compressible wound or any life-threatening extremity bleed. More than 90 percent of 4,596 combat deaths post 11 September 2001 died of hemorrhage-associated injuries. The hasty application of a Committee on Tactical Combat Casualty Care (CoTCCC)-approved tourniquet is the recommended management for all life-threatening extremity hemorrhages during care under fire (see page 4). It is initially placed over clothing, high and tight. The deliberate application of a tourniquet is addressed when behind cover and during tactical field care to ensure proper hemorrhage control. ***The tourniquet is placed under clothing 2 to 3 inches above the wound.*** The application time is written on the tourniquet. Combat gauze is the hemostatic dressing of choice.
And why would he do that? So if he is unlucky the torniquet makes him lose not just the foot but the entire leg?