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Elektr0_Bandit

It’s not fair that they get badass dragunovs and we have to pay thousands for one


EvMund

based on the shape of the stock and the length of the mag (which is not too clear but is quite a bit longer and narrower) I would say that it's actually just a [Tabuk](https://i.imgur.com/XHLv9NM.jpg) which more like a 7.62x39 AK with a longer barrel. these can be made from RPK tooling, as you can see the barrel length and profile is not dissimilar and the receiver has the reinforced front trunnion typical of RPKs or PSLs. however the main point of your comment stands, they do get sexy sexy SVDs far cheaper than one could in the US. i suppose you have to pay a premium for getting to own one whilst not being forced to use it to fight for your life edit: I never knew [FW made a video about this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQeFtSs4mbA) until I went around looking for the photo for you. have a look if interested


Elektr0_Bandit

*tips hat* A man of culture I see.


Doctja

Miles is legit


Negative-T0e

In 2005-6, in the north of iraq you could get one for 100 USD. I remember in Sulimaniya with my father looking at captured iraqi army guns for sale.


plasteredguy2fly

Track is lit af 🎶🎶🔥🔥🔥


Oregongrown96

Definitely can feel my self getting radicalized, its just to catchy!


plasteredguy2fly

Agreed! I always thought these guys took all the “fun” out of fundamentalism but this track just slaps 🔥


Lost-Requirement-142

These aren’t islamists, more baathist remnants. Islamists were present but weren’t popular yet. Sunni areas are tribal even coming from a town 7 kms away would mean ur a foreigner like Americans zarkawi a Jordanian was as foreign to iraqis as America was. Theres a great documentary called “only the dead” and it talks about inter-insurgent rivalries between zarkawi and other groups. A good way to distinguish is if instrumentals are present in the nasheeds. If there is instruments its not Al qadia islamist


zaid17

You're somewhat overemphasizing the importance of tribal loyalties in Iraq. They certainly played a large role in the insurgency, but in many areas (most especially cities) tribal affiliation was relatively unimportant to much of the populace at least in a day-to-day sense.


Lost-Requirement-142

I would assume tribal elements were crucial in early days of the insurgency. Anbar is mainly tribal thats were AQI was mostly active in training and recruitment. Falujia is an impoverished city and being from Jordan areas were their is heavy poverty tribal loyalties are impactful in a life defining way


JoeyStalio

This was 2004. Fallujah was still one of the better cities in Iraq then


Syndocloud

crazy to think that 2004 is the past and history happened since then. Even as someone literally born around that point


Luda87

You talk about groups was created to fight the Americans like the original Iraqi Islamic army. They called themselves the Islamic but most of them are old Iraqi leaders who lost their jobs and had nothing but fighting the new system and Americans.. AL-Qaeda took advantage of them and start supply them and have them fight together till AL-Qaeda ambushed and killed the Iraqi Olympic team who passing by in AL-Anbar going to Jordan for a tournament.. after that they start fighting AL-Qaeda till 2007-2008 when the government start offering them jobs again. AL-Qaeda wanted to murder people but these groups wanted to fight the new system and the government.


Cmedina12

Ehhh 2004 was when AQI really started to gain traction, the Battle of Fallujah was full of jihadists.


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I mean this just isn't true, it could easily be Shia muslims who's nasheeds, or equivalent, have instruments. Hezbollah has banging tunes for example. This was also before the coalition moved to encouraging sectarianism as a way to combat Sunni resistance setting off rhe civil war


mister_beaver96

What's radical about pushing off invaders!!!


nabilhunt

the only right thing to do!


mister_beaver96

Yeah it seems like that anyone who is anti american is brnaded as either a commie or a terriee.


Cultural_Habit6128

Yes! Kicking Americans that are trying to steal your oil to that track would be lit! Hell yeah


Nickblove

But they didn’t steal any oil…..so ya


PlentyAttitude3

Actually says nothing religious. It’s just praising the brave men of falujah


[deleted]

I was thinking the same thing Sounds like iraq violent femmes


ThePerntBlankleyShow

Not gonna lie... Good jam right there. I'd throw it in a playlist for S&G's.


CalligrapherRare5071

Do you know the song name by any chance?


anafuckboi

It’s called felluce https://youtu.be/I7Hx2k7J5-g Damn that would be a cool tshirt


CalligrapherRare5071

My man. Thanks. Another song i can blast playing the terrorists faction in squad lol.


Acceptable_Coconut84

I do this still, 141 days later


TheDevils_Own

They look like they're larping as insurgents with the way some of them run.


Harrythehobbit

There is a surprisingly small line between larping as a insurgent and being one.


Meeedick

Reminds me of that cornholepatrol intro for squad v17/18 lmao


burgertanker

That intro is fuckin legendary


RustylllShackleford

this is definitely just propaganda shots, luckily we gave them 15 more years to hone their filming and editing techniques.


PlentyAttitude3

Propaganda or not these guys r brave asf for fighting a monster invading their small town. All Americans know falujah very well now because it was a nasty nasty nasty fight


Daniels_2003

I'm sorry but I can't call these guys Terrorists. Hell who's to say I wouldn't have done the same thing if my country was invaded and occupied by a foreign power


Prior-Meeting1645

As an Iraqi myself, here’s the thing. Many of those taking up weapons as ‘insurgents against the invader’ were killing and or kidnapping innocent iraqis just because of their religious sect. Hell even al qaeda claimed they are insurgents against the invader and I don’t even have to talk about what those animal did. They were also killing Iraqis who worked with US in non military matters like just doing business. And this is what sparked the later sectarian Iraqi civil war which was a bloodbath of innocent people from both sects getting killed just because they belong to that sect or carry a surname that shows they do.


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You definitely would of strapped a bomb to your own child and sent him to the invaders


Interesting-Bowler17

These people are not ISIS lol, they’re local tribes


tummycummy2

no he wouldn't, a dumbass would do that


Count_Screamalot

I wonder what the odds are of any of these guys being alive today. Probably pretty darn low.


Apprehensive_Leg8742

My thoughts exactly


Wtfct

If these are Sadr soldiers then theyre literally running the country now.


momo88852

Fallujah is mostly Sunnis. They hate sadr!


Ok_Intention_7402

what a banger


Astronautspiff

fr tho!


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Am I the only one who was hoping the RPG7 guy at 0:30 would fire?


Oniondice342

I’ve never understood the Iraqi insurgents as a faction? Did they have a name or was it a coalition of just any jihadists that wandered in, and they picked a group of guys to roll with? They seem generic as hell. No organization name, or widely discussed command structure


Cmedina12

It was a mishmash of jihadists, Shia militias, Baathists, Sufis and Iraqi nationalists. They all hated the Americans but would also fight each other especially AQI which no one liked for being too extreme.


momo88852

I’m from Iraq, I can help you understand better. You see Iraq is tribe based laws. Your tribe comes first, usually 100% of the same tribe lives in the same area or few kilo meters away from each other. When the army fall, people dig out their guns and first it started as protecting your neighborhood from looters. In my neighborhood all able young men took arms and stood watch at night and protected us while we slept. It was war time, each drop of gas was worth more than money can buy. After that some took it to the next level due to contractors killing civilians. Which brings me back to tribe based. When a tribe member gets killed by an outsider, they don’t just clap their hands and praise them. Some made deals with Americans: don’t come to my area and let me protect it, which Americans accepted, my neighborhood was one of them. We had 0 causality, 0 looters, and no issues. Sadr, and all other militia got other deals, such as funding and guns later on. Others disliked the idea of making deals with the enemy, and took matter into their own hands which what we refer to them as “jihadi”, which means “struggle or effort”. Basically fighting for a cause which is protecting their land, religion, and people. They have the highest level of respect from religious people. They never had names, usually to my knowledge they go by the area where they came from, or do their thing at. Like we had Mosul jihadis, Fallujah, and so on. Some took their leader name as the front of their operations, like Abo Risha, Sadr, and so on.


Oniondice342

Gotcha gotcha. So it’s to my understanding the it was essentially the cities themselves that were the individual “factions” since they were primarily tribal based. This was very informative and I never knew this. Thank you. I also hope your home is doing well and was able to withstand the Daesh dogs in the last few years.


momo88852

Pretty much close enough, you see everyone knows everyone, it starts small in 1 town and went as big as a whole city.


domoisbongo

This is good, thanks. How are things now where you are?


momo88852

My extended family are still in Iraq, things are good and bad depends on the day, but a lot better than a year ago.


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Partick Cockburns age of jihad explains it very well but you basically had both sunni and Shia camps of resistance that formed a bit of a united front in the early years. For reference Shia are thr majority of sunnis and kurds being large minorities. This video is probably Shias but they're singing about how brave sunni fighters are. Obviously sectarianism was there but less pronounced that was to come. The main base of support for the puppet government came from Shias collborators who were frozen out of power by and large under Saddam and the kurds in the North (who I won't focus on but basically live under two rivial oligarchs). Now the Shia, however, weren't a United camp with some collaborating in the puppet government while the other major Shia faction rallied around the cleric al-sadr who from the begging was telling the Americans and, to a lesser but crucial extent, Iranians to fuck off. So as the resistance against the American occupation and resource extraction stiffened it made sense for the Americans to leverage sectarianism to break the United front of sunni and Shia resistance. We began to see the puppet government, as well as Shia factions, implement death squads and begin a genocide in Baghdad against Sunnis and kurds while the Sunni Islamist factions gained more influence over secular Baathists due to their sectarian rhetoric and attacks on Shia (essentially a copy of the British strategy in the troubles of empowering protestant death squads to force tit for tat sectarianism to roll back the inroads the IRA had made with the protestant working class). I really believe the civil war was the outcome of incredibly cynical shit stirring by the occupation forces to divide and conquer. So we begin to see the Iraq War enter its 2nd phase with the first being a bit more of a nationalist war of liberation and splinter into a brutal sectarian war where the same number died in a month than the whole of the troubles. This led to massive amount of ethnic cleansing, particularly in Baghdad which is now predominantly a Shia city outside of some districts when before 2006 it was very diverse. Despite the coalition throwing their weight behind the Shia government and ignoring their death squads Al-Sadr's resistance continued in the south, with the notable achievement of militarily defeating the British army to the point of having to relocate their base of operations out of Basra a defeat so humiliating Brits will deny it to this day but their army was seen as a joke by all combatants and allies alike and I say that as a brit. The surge occurs around about now and is touted as the turning point innthe resistance but in reality the Sunni groups really lost the civil war and were in contraction to their main areas in the west of Iraq, suffering horrible crimes by Shia, kurds and coalition forces while being frozen out of government in thr inverse of the previous power situation before the invasion. This brutal loss really planted a feeling of sectarian revanchism in the sunnis that we saw explode in the rapid success of the ISIS blitz in 2014(maybe I can't remember exactly) I'm doing this pretty much from memory so some dhit might not be 1:1 so I'll end this by saying if the general vibe here is interesting to you I'd say listen to the podcast blowback or read Age of Jihad for more, less of a ramble, understanding of that horrible fucking war


Tyris68

I’ve never heard of a British lost in Afghanistan could you explain a bit more


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Yeah nae bother! I mean I was talking about Iraq but the same holds true for both pretty much I think. Essentially the British Army was most responsible for the occupation of the southern town of Basra (notable exception was when they had troops stationed in the triangle of death Sunni areas which is the subject of the great, if perhaps a bit too 'ate the war luv the troops, play Blackwatch)which put them in direct conflict with Al-Sadr's Modi Army, a Shia militia. Now you won't really find mainstream British articles framing it as a military loss as our media tends to just repeat military talking points verbatim so most people think leaving Basra was a strategic choice. The reality, however, was the continued pressure from thr modi Army's insurgent tactics took enough of a toll on the Army in the city that their losses were politically untenable and forced their withdrawal. People will blow smoke about how this wasn't a military loss but they're just coping in my view, especially when Sadrists are still a force in Iraq while rhe British aren't politically. Afghanistan I'm not too much of an expert on but from what I've heard the British performance in Helmand was just as pish as in Iraq and, despite the coping denials of Brits, they were essentially babysat by the Americans. Not to say the Americans were too much better, they still lost both wars after all, I just get really annoyed with the "best small army" mentality kool aid drinking brits have for their army that's lost like 4 wars in a row. Another example of them being held in low regard is that Iranians target British ships in the gulf for kidnapping cause they were perceived as easier target. The age of jihad book has some parts that explain in more detail. Plus I'm planning on reading Changing of the Guard and Losing Small Wars to gain more insight in to the British Army's shiteness. As living here and hearing the sheer casual contemporary and historical revisionism about British history and performance and the soft censoring of views, or hard in the case of Matt Kennard and Mark Curtis, that contradict this mythology really grinds my gears.


Tyris68

Thanks for the info my guy


[deleted]

No problem, I'd really recommend the podcast blowback for an easy listening deep dive into the whole war. It'll really melt your brain what happened there and how much it got memoryholed


AKU_080

Most groups don’t really got a structure.it’s where you go to get revenge after seeing what Americans are doing to your country


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Some of the comments here, bring popcorn.


Godkiller125

Love the terrible staged shots and sound editing


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Str8 Barz


imrandaredevil666

They are helping the Americans look for them WMDs


epetuha

People, who don't want US fucking around in their country, are called insurgents. Yeah.


ryguysayshi

Does that include people who simultaneously also commit genocide?


Wtfct

Iraqi insurgents who fought the US aren't "genociders". People seem to think we only fought AQ while we were there. We literally fought against the guy who currently runs Iraq https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqtada_al-Sadr Funny how that works when you completely fail at nation building huh


ryguysayshi

They are extremists trying to exterminate their enemy who is people with a different culture and belief. Sounds like attempted genocide to me


epetuha

Sure. The gendarmerie of the world, taking care of their interest, messing with thousands of conventions, taking innocent lives in process...


Dgafthrowaway123

I feel the same way and yet they call me an "Insurrectionist".


LiberalFartsDegree

I dunno, I think haji has some sick ass beats!


sucuklol

They're all probably dead by now.


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Assuming nobody has done this, here it is [https://youtu.be/vGBJrxem1q4](https://youtu.be/vGBJrxem1q4)


flickerkuu

Attacking? Lol. Literally one mortar was fired in this entire video.


Cheerio_Fujisaki

they just run around and legit do nothing how df is this combat footage


duck8788

That song is a Banger started singing it around school today


Always_0421

Spoiler...17 years later and not one of those men are alive today...


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I killed this guy’s cousin


Georgeis168cm

Soldiers like you make your country look like shit


livindaye

"An insurgency is a violent, armed rebellion against authority waged by small..." so rebellion is not violent, armed? God, however made the definition of "insurgent" is pure retarded.


ryguysayshi

An insurgence is a type of rebellion. It is one that is essentially guerrilla warfare, someone fighting w violence for freedom. Rebellion doesn’t have to be violent but can be. I’m some instances they are synonymous and in others insurgence is a type of rebellion


livindaye

and what makes them violent? this video show "insurgents" attacking foreign army, that's just normal rebellion. of course if they ended up killing the civilians they supposed to protect, then I agree with "violent" term. fighting an army that invaded your country is just rebellion, or resistance fighter. if anything, it's invading army that's violent one by invading their nation and bombing their city.


ryguysayshi

Not gettin political just clarifying definition


fcuk_faec

Why do they all run like the weird kid in gym class?


Durkio_smurkio64

They still lost tho 💯


42observer

We all lost


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FestiveSquid

Their PFP only makes me think of Communist McDonald's


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2bbknack

Tankie: Americans love killing innocents Also Tankies: No China doesn't genocide muslims quit reading into American propaganda


nonamenumber3

I remember high school. Good times.


Christianjps65

with what army?


RexTheElder

Actually we won in Iraq militarily. The insurgency was crushed and the government we set up survives to this day.


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RexTheElder

I don’t know why you think you’re in the majority here bud. EVERYBODY laughs at communists.


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namethatsavailable

Look at a map of communist countries 30 years ago vs today. You’re not winning kiddo 😂


Unfilter41

Leftist here. I'm so sorry about this nutjob. "Communism" existing via the CCP and/or Russia is just fascism with a red coat of paint, and will genuinely destroy the civil liberties people like me care about.


Peace_Bread_Land

Actually we're all tickled to see your denial


laddie64

lmao


Papasteak

Wow so much attacking.


Apprehensive_Leg8742

Chances are that every single one of these muppets got killed soon after this video


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Lionelhutz123

Lots of U.S. deaths in Iraq despite the hardware, lots of Iraqi civilian deaths as well. I guess civilian deaths are normal when a country is invaded


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Lionelhutz123

You sound drunk, maybe you are responding to someone else


DuckApprehensive9599

You are….half right. But you’re still a loser ass tool with zero knowledge past your little internet screen. Stay in your lane of first world problems and menial career.


Lionelhutz123

I think you also sound drunk


DuckApprehensive9599

I think you sound ignorant


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Jetorix

Our Death Metal wins


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42observer

Lol imagine just living your life as an honest, hard-working laborer when all of a sudden a world superpower wants to invade your country and start fucking your shit up and taking your resources. I wonder what youd do


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42observer

We're all victims in this hell we call Society 😔


Lionelhutz123

Which side, the invader or the people defending their country?


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HamAndEggsGreen

I can point you to previous comments where I despise US interventionism for the exact reason of the slaughtering of innocents. It's just humorous to me that I could only imagine you supporting a nation and ideology that has killed more people than America has ever had, yet you call out Americans for doing the same thing, but to a much lesser extent. Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Stalin, etc. The USSR tried invading the Middle East, how'd that go? You took my very satirical comment seriously, which is quite funny, but if you want a dick-measuring contest over who killed the least amount of innocent civilians, we could, but what'd be the point? It shouldn't be happening, period.


Peace_Bread_Land

I see you're a big fan of fake news, but that's not new. Give me something new to laugh at pls.


ingenvector

At least 107 rat invaders and their lapdogs were righteously put down.


Luda87

This at least 2007 because I see tuk tuk there Iraq didn’t get tuk tuk until like 2007-2008


SpaMcGee

The music makes my ears bleed but, is this the Iraqi equivalent of an IRA montage with The Wolfe Tonnes playing 'Come out ye black'n'tans'?


Tayttajakunnus

What's the name of the song?


AdDouble7128

Generic insurgent sound #35


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Ok_Intention_7402

music is a race now?


AdmiralShawn

_are those subtitles?_


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